Network Working Group                                        S. Krishnan
Internet-Draft                                                  C. Eckel
Obsoletes: 3113 (if approved)                                      Cisco
Intended status: Informational                                P. Schmitt
Expires: 17 September 2025                                        Huawei
                                                           16 March 2025


                3GPP-IETF Standardization Collaboration
                        draft-kes-rfc3113bis-00

Abstract

   This document contains a set of principles and guidelines that serve
   as the basis for the collaboration between 3GPP and IETF, with the
   objective of securing timely development of technical specifications,
   and to facilitate maximum interoperability with existing fixed and
   mobile Internet systems, devices, and protocols.

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Table of Contents

   1.  Introduction  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   2
   2.  Administrative support groups . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   3.  IETF-3GPP Administrative Support Group  . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   4.  High level principles . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   5.  Changes from RFC3113  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   6.  Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   7.  IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   8.  References  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
     8.1.  Normative References  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
     8.2.  Informative References  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   Acknowledgments . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   Authors' Addresses  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4

1.  Introduction

   The IETF and 3GPP formalized a set of principles and guidelines for
   co-operation in [RFC3113].  While the high level principles remain
   intact in the collaboration many of the details in that document have
   become out of date due to changes in the organizational structures of
   both IETF and 3GPP as well as in the way the co-ordination activities
   are conducted in practice. e.g. both the IETF and 3GPP have
   reorganized and renamed areas so that the RFC3113 contains incorrect
   and misleading information.  The document access mechanisms have also
   been changed even as the open access principles still remain intact.
   It is also difficult to keep this information up to date due to the
   fairly dynamic nature of both of the SDOs.  This document intends to
   reiterate the high level principles of co-operation and the co-
   ordination mechanisms while leaving out the detailed descriptions to
   be specified and maintained by the co-ordination function itself.









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2.  Administrative support groups

   IAB Administrative Support Groups are groups with dedicated
   membership, similar to directorates, that act as an arm of the IAB,
   assisting the IAB in discharging its responsibilities.  One of those
   responsibilities is that the IAB acts as representative of the
   interests of the IETF and the Internet Society in technical liaison
   relationships with other organizations concerned with standards and
   other technical and organizational issues relevant to the world-wide
   Internet.  In 2023, the IAB decided to create an administrative
   support group to work on the co-ordination activities between IETF
   and 3GPP [IETF-3GPP].

3.  IETF-3GPP Administrative Support Group

   The purpose of this [IETF-3GPP].group is to support coordination
   activities between IETF and 3GPP.  This group is led jointly by the
   respective liaison managers from both organizations, IETF and 3GPP.
   This group has no fixed membership, but participation from relevant
   IETF Area Directors, IETF WG Chairs, 3GPP WG Chairs, and document
   authors/editors is encouraged.  The group co-leads will review and
   update the mailing list yearly prior to the July meeting, in order to
   adjust for changes in the IESG and IAB.

4.  High level principles

   As stated in RFC3113, 3GPP has identified the benefit of adopting
   Internet specifications and the preferred 3GPP approach is to use the
   Internet standards unchanged, if feasible.  In any case, 3GPP has no
   intention to duplicate work performed in IETF.  While this is the
   preferred scenario, 3GPP recognizes that additions or modifications
   might be needed in order to make the IETF internet specification
   fulfill the needs of 3GPP, and in such cases, these concerns will be
   directly brought up at the IETF-3GPP administrative support group to
   be addressed by the relevant IETF areas and WGs.  This document also
   reiterates the principle that informal communication at working level
   is encouraged whenever possible, and formal communications are to be
   used only when deemed necessary.

5.  Changes from RFC3113

   *  Added info about IAB Administrative support groups

   *  Reiterated high level principles

   *  Removed details about Document sharing

   *  Removed details about communication



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   *  Removed details about rapporteurs

6.  Security Considerations

   This document is concerned with the relationship between 3GPP and
   IETF and does not bring up any new security considerations.

7.  IANA Considerations

   This document has no IANA actions.

8.  References

8.1.  Normative References

   [RFC3113]  Rosenbrock, K., Sanmugam, R., Bradner, S., and J. Klensin,
              "3GPP-IETF Standardization Collaboration", RFC 3113,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC3113, June 2001,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3113>.

8.2.  Informative References

   [IETF-3GPP]
              IAB, "IETF-3GPP Administrative Support Group",
              https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/ietf3gpp/about/ , April
              2023.

Acknowledgments

Authors' Addresses

   Suresh Krishnan
   Cisco
   Email: suresh.krishnan@gmail.com


   Charles Eckel
   Cisco
   Email: eckelcu@cisco.com


   Peter Schmitt
   Huawei
   Email: Peter.Schmitt@huawei.com







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