From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 01:18:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28940; Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:18:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15944; Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:06:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15938; Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:06:11 -0800 Received: from ciint by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA05853 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:06:01 +0100 Received: from pulsar by ciint.ciint.nl id aa04904; 1 Nov 95 9:58 WET Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 08:55:48 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: John Treloar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Out of free storage In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, John Treloar wrote: > I am running pine 3.91 on a linux server. I have recieved some mail with a > large binary MIME attachment (5MB). When I try to read it (to see the text > part and save the attachment) I get an 'Out of free storage' message. > > Is there a way of increasing the storage space or is this just too big to > be practical? I couldn't see any options in the setup configuration. > > Thanks in anticipation. :-) Hi John, Are you sure that you've not truly run out of memory? (RAM + swap space). Pine will report the "Out of free storage" message only if it fails to obtain free memory (using malloc()). Just run "free" on another terminal at about the time Pine is to display the message "Out of free storage" and check the amount of free memory left. If you're running short on memory you can (temporary) obtain additional swap space by letting Linux swap into a regular file. Checkout the command "swapon" for more info. > ______________________________________________________________________________ > John R. Treloar > SBSS Pty. Ltd., PO Box 130 Bendigo Australia. > +61 54 424322 fax:+61 54 432847 > johnt@sbss.com.au http://www.sbss.com.au/ > ______________________________________________________________________________ Best regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | ...at a time when men were REAL men and | | CI International B.V. | wrote their own device drivers (Linus) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 02:14:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00916; Wed, 1 Nov 95 02:14:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13755; Wed, 1 Nov 95 02:07:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13749; Wed, 1 Nov 95 02:07:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAa0D-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 02:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spatlan@gp807.jsc.nasa.gov (Steve Patlan) Subject: Re: Question Date: 31 Oct 1995 19:25:22 GMT Message-Id: <475t72$d0r@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: > "Mark A. Wille" writes: > How does one upload a file to his/her directory, where then he/she can > attach it? Thank you very much for your help. Well, first you plug your cellular modem into the cigarette lighter of your '74 Plymouth RoadRunner, connect it to your PowerBook 540, and then you insert your Zip cartridge and select "Upload" from the Apple menu. Easy. Then you tell us a little more about what kind of computer and software and connection you are using before asking such a silly question. If you're using Zterm (or the like) on a Mac, you would use the "send files zmodem" option under the File menu. You must make sure that you have correctly configured your System type (Unix/Opus). Of course, I'm just assuming that "rz" is available on MCS. (Which should be a safe assumption.) Zterm issues the "rz" command for you. This might not be true of all comm programs. If it's not true for you, you manually enter "rz" before sending the file. If you're using a Dos or Windows comm program, you select the appropriate file transfer option with the appropriate keystroke or menu command. If you're telnetting into MCS, use the appropriate ftp client for your platform. "Fetch" on the Mac, "WinFTP" or "WSFtp" on the PC. - Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 03:20:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03690; Wed, 1 Nov 95 03:20:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18031; Wed, 1 Nov 95 03:12:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18025; Wed, 1 Nov 95 03:12:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAb3F-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 03:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ckk@uchicago.edu Subject: Glimpse Re: The FUTURE Power of PINE! Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:12:13 GMT The EXMH mail application uses "glimpse" to do full text indexing on all saved mail messages. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 04:12:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05480; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:12:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15950; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:02:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15944; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:02:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAbre-00038DC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phred@ling.umu.se (Fredrick Backman) Subject: Re: [Q] Personal Print command in .pinerc Date: 1 Nov 1995 07:55:06 GMT Message-Id: <47794q$h03@studium.student.umu.se> References: In article 100000@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de, Ralf Wenzel writes: >Hi! > >My personal print command is "/za/prx/ filename", x ist the number of the >printer I want to use, the filename is the name of the file I want to >print. > >Now the Question: How I can set THAT print command in my .pinerc, I don't >know how I can tell pine, that there has to be a filename. I think that >pine save the file to print in a temporary file--but what might be the >name of that file? I really don't know if there is a temporary file, but perhaps you don't need it to solve the problem. I would suggest you put this line in your .pinerc: personal-print-command=cat - | /za/prx (I guess it's supposed to be /za/prx and not /za/prx/) You must, however, specify the printer number x. I believe "cat -" is necessary, though it may seem a bit silly. /Phred --- .-.. .. ...- .. -. --. .. -. .- ...- .- -.-. ..- ..- -- ... ..- -.-. -.- ... Fredrick Backman. Research Engineer, handsome, smart, athletic, and modest!! Dept of Linguistics, Umea University, 901 87 Umea, Sweden. phred@ling.umu.se URL: Phone: +46-90-165676 Fax: +46-90-133162 "Take a stress pill and think things over." -Hal9000 "Don't Panic!" -HHGTTG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 04:56:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06518; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:56:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16896; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:50:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16883; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:49:49 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:44:11 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA22023; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:44:56 GMT Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:44:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Fredrick Backman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Personal Print command in .pinerc In-Reply-To: <47794q$h03@studium.student.umu.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you check the helpful text underneath where you set this up (Start Pine 3.91, type S for setup, then P for printer) you will see you need to give a command that the message is *piped* into.... there is no filename involved. So as long as the user's "/za/prx" program can accept text piped into it, instead of just a filename on the command line then the necessary command is just "/za/prx". Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 1 Nov 1995, Fredrick Backman wrote: > In article 100000@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de, Ralf Wenzel writes: > >Hi! > > > >My personal print command is "/za/prx/ filename", x ist the number of the > >printer I want to use, the filename is the name of the file I want to > >print. > > > >Now the Question: How I can set THAT print command in my .pinerc, I don't > >know how I can tell pine, that there has to be a filename. I think that > >pine save the file to print in a temporary file--but what might be the > >name of that file? > > I really don't know if there is a temporary file, but perhaps you don't need > it to solve the problem. I would suggest you put this line in your .pinerc: > > personal-print-command=cat - | /za/prx > > (I guess it's supposed to be /za/prx and not /za/prx/) > You must, however, specify the printer number x. > > I believe "cat -" is necessary, though it may seem a bit silly. > > > /Phred > > --- > .-.. .. ...- .. -. --. .. -. .- ...- .- -.-. ..- ..- -- ... ..- -.-. -.- ... > Fredrick Backman. Research Engineer, handsome, smart, athletic, and modest!! > Dept of Linguistics, Umea University, 901 87 Umea, Sweden. phred@ling.umu.se > URL: Phone: +46-90-165676 Fax: +46-90-133162 > "Take a stress pill and think things over." -Hal9000 "Don't Panic!" -HHGTTG > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 05:13:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06926; Wed, 1 Nov 95 05:13:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19859; Wed, 1 Nov 95 05:07:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19853; Wed, 1 Nov 95 05:07:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAcp3-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 05:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dfp10@sarah.albany.edu (D Parsons) Subject: Installing Pine on SUN Sparc5 Solaris 2.3 Date: 31 Oct 1995 19:06:34 GMT Message-Id: <475s3q$hq1@rebecca.albany.edu> I downloaded pine3.91.tar.Z from ftp.cac.washington.edu but have not been able to finish its installation. The documentation is ambiguous about porting versions. The file /doc/pine-ports was absent from the tar file. Since therewere makefiles with extensions of .sol and .sun I tried 'build sol' and 'build sun'. Both of these aborted with several complaints about an absent 'default.mk' file. Can anyone tell me where to find a source file that does indeed work with Solaris2.3. Thanks, Don -- Donald F. Parsons MD, Wadsworth Ctr, The Telemedicine Office (Rm D224A) PO Box 509, Albany, NY 12201-0509. (518)474-7047 Fax: (518)474-7992 dfp10@csc.albany.edu; dfp10@health.state.ny.us Moderator: hspnet-l@health.state.ny.us (Design & Operation of Clinical Nets) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 06:32:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08533; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:32:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18160; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:22:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18154; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:22:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAe1I-00038DC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: [Q] Personal Print command in .pinerc Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 18:55:03 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! My personal print command is "/za/prx/ filename", x ist the number of the printer I want to use, the filename is the name of the file I want to print. Now the Question: How I can set THAT print command in my .pinerc, I don't know how I can tell pine, that there has to be a filename. I think that pine save the file to print in a temporary file--but what might be the name of that file? (Pine 3.91 for UNIX SVR4) Please send a Cc of your answer to me (mail), thanks a lot in advance Ralf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 06:51:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09039; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:51:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21084; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:37:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21078; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:37:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAeEe-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cnielsen@lonepeak.vii.com (Christian Nielsen) Subject: Re: please help Date: 1 Nov 1995 00:47:34 GMT Message-Id: <476g36$7ab@lonepeak.vii.com> References: <475jku$m35@kasey.umkc.edu> <475s5p$mm7@guava.epix.net> You might want to check your config # Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-fcc= Jonathan and DearOldDad (jgvd@news.epix.net) wrote: : svreddy@CSTP.UMKC.EDU wrote: : : can anyone tell me how I can set a folder in the config setting of pine to keep a copy of the mail I send...in other words a sent-mail folder : : Thanks ina dvance : : Sridhar...svreddy@cstp.umkc.edu : Hhmmmm ... sent-mail (as well as INBOX and saved-messages) is one of the : three default folders in pine. Either you've been playing with your : setup config thingy, or your sys admin has disabled it, or ... I give up : ... anyone else? : /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> : John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! : Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ : Thought for the day: Rappers are cool; Line wrappers are hot; G'Day -- Chrsitian Nielsen cnielsen@vii.com,CN46,KB7HAP Vyzynz International Inc. 801-568-0999 PS :) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 07:46:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10695; Wed, 1 Nov 95 07:46:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22152; Wed, 1 Nov 95 07:37:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22132; Wed, 1 Nov 95 07:36:50 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA19271 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:36:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:29:07 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: PC-PINE + UUPC Possible ? Message-Id: Organisation: VANDERHORN VOF Address: Oranjelaan 40 City: 3135 ZP Vlaardingen Country: The Netherlands Voice: +31 10 4600411 Fax: +31 10 4342857 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using Pine for a couple of months on SCO Unix and OpenServer. Because we have some travelling notebook's running Kendra's UUPC with a standard mail.exe, I wanted to change the MUA to PC-Pine. I have on hand "pcpine_[fnpsw].zip" but as far as I can see, do they all need access to a remote INBOX, and I like to work on a local file like $MAIL. Can someone give me a hint ? --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 09:10:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14890; Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:10:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21321; Wed, 1 Nov 95 08:57:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21315; Wed, 1 Nov 95 08:57:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAgQ9-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 08:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Getting Mail headers without mail prog??? Date: 1 Nov 1995 02:25:55 GMT Message-Id: <476lrj$6m3@hera.cuci.nl> References: <45bj41$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> <46g81r$c2k@news.dataphone.se> Anders Waller wrote: >On 23 Oct 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: >> Well, this looks at *all* lines which contain "From". >> It should be "^From: ", though. >> And even this does not skip "included non-quoted mails". >Correct...Been playing some with egrep, seems the following works, havent >tested it much yet though...Im sure theres some case whereas it doesnt >work. >alias from 'more $MAILPATH | egrep "^From: | ^From " If you have procmail/formail installed, try: alias from 'formail -x From: -s <$MAILPATH' This *does* skip "included non-quoted mails". -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). In this signature, the concluding three words `were left out'. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 09:21:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15479; Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:21:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24645; Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:09:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news.pacifier.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24639; Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:09:23 -0800 Received: from bart by news.pacifier.com with uucp for cac.washington.edu!pine-info (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #30) id m0tAgf9-0009BjC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:09 PST Received: from bart.wfsg.com by bart.wfsg.com id aa21664; 1 Nov 95 9:07 PST Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:07:39 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Hansen To: Pine Info List Subject: Eudora messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know why messages created in Eudora don't show proper dates in the index listing in Pine 3.91? I've just noticed that Eudora doesn't seem to add a "Date:" header. (at least I don't see one with Rich Headers turned on) I guess this isn't Pine's fault but does anyone know of a solution? Thanks, -- Dave Hansen dave@wfsg.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 11:26:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22153; Wed, 1 Nov 95 11:26:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25373; Wed, 1 Nov 95 11:17:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25367; Wed, 1 Nov 95 11:17:02 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id MAA00374 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:16:57 -0700 Received: from gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (hsong@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.10]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA43894 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:16:56 -0700 Received: by gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id MAA200896; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:16:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:16:48 -0700 (MST) From: H Song X-Sender: hsong@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: university address Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom ever can help me, I am currently trying to get a hold of my cousin in the university of texas . I have not been able to get a holdof her so that she could clarify what exacltly her address is . So far all I got from her is"*(her identity which I will not disclose)*@.utexas.edu". As you might already know this is not the address of the university of texas . Can you give it to me ? I suspect that the "@.utexas.edu" part is wrong . It would be much appreciated and welcomed . Thanks for your help, hsong University of Alberta (Canada) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 12:10:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24753; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:10:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26768; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:03:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26762; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:03:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAjKS-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: The FUTURE Power of PINE! Date: 1 Nov 1995 02:27:39 GMT Message-Id: <476lur$am0@guava.epix.net> References: Tom I Helbekkmo (tih@Hamartun.Priv.NO) wrote: ... lottsa stuff including ... : and so on. I'm not sure what sort of query language would be best, ... etc etc etc ... : keyboard shortcuts, of course -- single key commands for the most ... etc etc ... : Comments, anyone? Try $ to sort. Tallyho! G'Day! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 12:21:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25230; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:21:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27074; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:10:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27066; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:10:49 -0800 Received: from ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu by ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (PMDF V4.3-9 #5889) id <01HX4SSYN4BA8Y2ZG4@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>; Wed, 01 Nov 1995 15:00:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 15:00:35 -0500 (EST) From: V094J3A3@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu Subject: How do u Personalize your name on pine? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I was wondering how u personalize your name on pine?? Please give me a step by step way of doing it. Thanks, Jeff Walter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 12:40:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26122; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:40:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00344; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:33:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00338; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:33:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAjn6-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: james knight Subject: three how-to questions Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:09:37 -0800 Message-Id: References: <475jku$m35@kasey.umkc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: good evening all.. i would like to know, if possible, how i might go about: 1. setting up an auto save before replying - trying to keep all communications back and forth in the appropriate fcc folders. 2. getting the news reader side to fcc to the list name rather than the individual authors. same trick on saves. 3. dealing with incoming mail from abc@xyz.com that needs to be routed back to a different address (or addresses) on reply. i can do all these things manually, just wondering if i am missing something that would allow me to make any of them automatic.. thanks in advance, etc, jamesk@wimsey.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:02:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00743; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:02:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29807; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:48:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29801; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:48:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAkyb-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: macplan@embratel.net.br (Fernando Pinho) Subject: Simple mail server administrator - help Date: 1 Nov 1995 10:35:58 GMT Message-Id: <477iie$sgd@rjo02.embratel.net.br> I'm looking for a shareware program to implement a mail server to suport a mail service at my local net and for Internet with a single dial-up access. Does it possible ? If you know anything to help me please, email me ok ? Thanks in advance From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:05:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00864; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:05:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02618; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:53:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02612; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:53:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAl54-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "...not fade away!!" Subject: Headers & keystrokes... Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:36:26 -0500 Is it possible to bind a header field to a keystroke? (ie: To: header goes to address book when ^T is pressed) Thanks in advance! Jim McConnell jkm7670@hertz.njit.edu ============================================================================= "The grass ain't greener, The wine ain't sweeter, Either side of the hill..." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:16:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01663; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:16:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02992; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:08:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02983; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:08:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAlIC-00038EC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brown@engin.swarthmore.edu (Andrew Brown) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:00:09 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cancel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:17:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01696; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:17:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00400; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:08:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00394; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:08:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAlHz-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) Subject: Detecting headers in folders Date: 1 Nov 1995 04:36:43 GMT Message-Id: <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> I have the following problem: How do I look through a Pine folder (containing headers and messages saved as text) and know where the header for each message starts? I know the end of each header is marked as a blank line, but you can't mark the start of a header like this because the message itself could contain blank lines. I'm writing a program to go through these folders and remove most of the fields from the headers, but I don't know of a reliable way of detecting the start of each header. Obviously Pine can do it, does anyone out there know how? Thanks Graham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:22:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02083; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:22:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00562; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:13:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00556; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:13:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAlLo-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Saving messages to a floppy Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 23:11:25 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Sorry, left out a step. You have to get out of Pine and go to the shell to download or use the cat command. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:30:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02375; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:30:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00736; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:20:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00724; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:20:18 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:20 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:20 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:20 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders To: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:20:04 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (Pine Information) In-Reply-To: <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> from "Graham Minchin" at Nov 1, 95 04:36:43 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 719 Quoting Graham Minchin: > I have the following problem: > How do I look through a Pine folder (containing headers and messages > saved as text) and know where the header for each message starts? > I'm writing a program to go through these folders and remove most of the > fields from the headers, but I don't know of a reliable way of detecting > the start of each header. > Obviously Pine can do it, does anyone out there know how? Mail headers are described by RFC0822. If you just need a simple utility to weed away some header lines where it does not matter whether the header lines are inside other mails then you can take a look at the "weedout.sed" at http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/scripts Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:30:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02481; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:30:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03158; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:13:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03150; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:13:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAlLo-00038EC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Saving messages to a floppy Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 23:05:55 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, Mark A. Wille wrote: > I would also like to know how to do this function. > > On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, Marty Hood wrote: > > > How do you do it? > > How do you do! Well, one way is to export (function E) to a file on the host in your directory, then download to your PC. Or you can do a disk capture if your PC communication program has that function. If you disk capture, its better done from the exported file using the Unix cat command, that way you don't get all the Pine menu options as part of the message. I use a script (my communications program comes with one) to do all of this. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:48:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03090; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:48:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01321; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:42:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01315; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:42:10 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:42 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:42 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:42 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Rejecting incoming e-mail To: colorado@crl.com (Scott Matteson) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:42:05 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (Pine Information) In-Reply-To: <46scpa$7i0@crl13.crl.com> from "Scott Matteson" at Oct 27, 95 09:49:46 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 265 Quoting Scott Matteson: > Does anyone know how to set Pine to reject all incoming mail messages? Pine does not receive the mail. It only looks at folders which are filled up by the programs which receives the email. => Pine does not have such a setting. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:49:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03141; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:49:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03927; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:40:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03921; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:40:18 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:40 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:40 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:40 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: rejecting e-mail To: n9243953@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu (Ryan C.) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:40:12 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Ryan C." at Oct 24, 95 08:23:12 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 521 Quoting Ryan C.: > I was wondering if anyone has had any luck rejecting e-mail from a specific > address? Use a filter. ELM's filter allows this with a rule like this: if (from = address) then delete Sven -- ELM - the "Easy Learn Mail" program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm The "ELM Pages" - all about ELM on the World Wide Web: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ ELM versions: Latest release: ELM2.4PL24 [940920] Latest ME patch: ELM2.4PL24ME8b [951012] Latest alpha: ELM2.5a08 [950908] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:57:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03392; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:57:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01444; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:48:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01438; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:48:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAlwf-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dcheung@pelican.cs.ucla.edu (Dominic Cheung) Subject: Is there a unix based mail client supporting POP? Date: 25 Oct 1995 14:50:07 -0700 Message-Id: <46mbef$pm9@pelican.cs.ucla.edu> I would like to get info on any unix/X based client that support POP. Also is there a copy of the POP protocol on the net that I can fetch? Your help is greatly appreciated. Dominic From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 15:13:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04260; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:13:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04262; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:58:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04256; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:58:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAm3g-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brown@engin.swarthmore.edu (Andrew Brown) Subject: Alterate Editors and SIGHUP Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:00:33 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are having some trouble on our HPUX system related to Pine and SIGHUP. When an alterate editor is open, PINE does not get the SIGHUP signal sent when the terminal is closed (it is apparently not supposed to). So, PINE stays open and keeps trying to reopen the editor, which succeeds or fails depending on the editor. Simply enabling the signal handler didn't solve the problem. So I substituted exit for the signal handler, and this naturally works, but not in a very nice way. Any ideas how we can get PINE to die when the terminal is closed and an alternate editor is being used? I don't know why signal handling was disabled while pine waits for the editor to finish, but I'll bet there is a reason. Either this could be changed and a handler that exits cleanly could be added, or pine could check to see if it's process group still exists, however that's done. Please e-mail replies to me, as I don't regularly read this group. Thanks, Andrew -- Andrew Brown Class of '97 Swarthmore College From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 15:26:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04969; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:26:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04731; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:15:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04725; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:15:07 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:15 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:15 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:15 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Eudora messages To: dave@wfsg.com (Dave Hansen) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:15:02 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Dave Hansen" at Nov 1, 95 09:07:39 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 475 Quoting Dave Hansen: > Does anyone know why messages created in Eudora don't show proper dates in > the index listing in Pine 3.91? I've just noticed that Eudora doesn't seem > to add a "Date:" header. (at least I don't see one with Rich Headers turned > on) I guess this isn't Pine's fault but does anyone know of a solution? Could be a problem with the MTA which sends away the mails. I don't think that Eudora produces the faulty Date header. Just guessing here. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 15:31:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05328; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:31:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05066; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:24:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from smarty.smart.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05056; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:24:05 -0800 Received: (hutchison@localhost) by smarty.smart.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA01497; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:27:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:27:32 -0500 (EST) From: Lee Hutchison To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine@cac.washington.edu Subject: Returned mail: User unknown (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="UAA05151.815188295/smarty.smart.net" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --UAA05151.815188295/smarty.smart.net Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:11:35 -0500 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: hutchison@smart.net Subject: Returned mail: User unknown The original message was received at Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:11:27 -0500 from hutchison@localhost ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- sysop@cac.washington.edu (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mx2.cac.washington.edu.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 sysop@cac.washington.edu... User unknown ----- Original message follows ----- --UAA05151.815188295/smarty.smart.net Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Return-Path: hutchison Received: (hutchison@localhost) by smarty.smart.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA05150; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:11:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:11:22 -0500 (EST) From: Lee Hutchison To: sysop@e-books.com cc: sysop@cac.washington.edu Subject: your mes. to lee_hutchison@lastdx.blkcat.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-815188282=:4921" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-815188282=:4921 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for your message on bbs 'last dx'- i have my own e-mailer, now. That is an amateur radio bbs, and they don't allow netservers, so i was kind of embarrased to have what is in effect a listserver sending commercial msgrs. to them....but i just did want to thank you for the message you sent there. I am having all the messages from e-books sent to me (other msgrs. addressed as requested) so i should be able to get the information...thanks a lot! Lee C. W. Hutchison hutchison@smart.net 2700 Que Street, n.w. mailstop 246 washington, dc 20007 ---559023410-851401618-815188282=:4921-- --UAA05151.815188295/smarty.smart.net-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 15:49:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05958; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:49:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02973; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:39:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02965; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:39:28 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:39 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:39 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:39 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Bug (ID VI378): When Pine is killed ... To: kevinto@HK.Super.NET (K.T.) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:39:01 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, timchan@HK.Super.NET In-Reply-To: from "K.T." at Oct 27, 95 09:39:50 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1225 Quoting K.T.: > When one of our user using the modem, and connect to our server and using > pine (using pico as an editor) to send a email the connection is cut while > he writing the message. > At the previous time, he can retrieve the interuupted mail, and continue to > compose it. However, this time he couldn't retreive the mail. And he want > to know how he can retrieve back his mail. It all depends on whether he saved the mail when he wrote it. If he didn't save the mail when his editor dies the the changes are lost. Even though pine dies, your editor might still be running. In that case, the temporary file might still exist, too. So go and look for the temporary file. > He has typed this mail for 2 hrs. Too bad. I hope he saved the text once in a while. General rule: Whenever you don't want to retype what you did - save! > He also want to know why. This part is what we can't explain and need > your help. How should we know why he lost the connection? This is a local problem which you should find. > And he also want to know how to prevent the future occurrence. Tell him to compose mails offline and to transfer them when the mails is reading for being sent. That's always the best way. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 15:50:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06033; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:50:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05646; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:45:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05640; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:45:33 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:45 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:45 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:45 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: phone numbers To: hoerning@cae.wisc.edu (Jeffrey Mark Hoerning) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:45:19 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <199510242052.PAA12671@hp-150.cae.wisc.edu> from "Jeffrey Mark Hoerning" at Oct 24, 95 03:52:26 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 337 Quoting Jeffrey Mark Hoerning: > I would like to get the E-mail address of a faculty member. > Her name is Barbara Krieger-Brockett Dept of Chemical Engineering. Hey, this list isn't for looking up people! Ask postmaster@www.chem.wisc.edu or take a look at their www server. First rule: Ask locally! Don't bother mailing lists! Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 16:38:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08351; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:38:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04172; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:18:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04166; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:18:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAnKv-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gostin@blue.crayola.cse.psu.edu (Jeffrey S Gostin) Subject: Pine 3.90 and Visible/Audible bells Date: 1 Nov 1995 06:50:35 GMT Message-Id: <4775br$s37@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu> Hi! I'm using Pine 3.90 on Ultrix 4.4, under TCSH 6.00.02. I've set up my TERMCAP so that the system uses visible bells, not audible ones. To be more precise, I've appended ":vb=:" to the end of my TERMCAP. However, I noticed when I used PINE this evening that it ignored that setting, beeping loud and clear when I hit a wrong key. I'd like to find a way for PINE to obey the visible bells directive in my TERMCAP definition. Unless I missed something, there's no way to tell 3.90 to shut up. :-) Is there something I've missed? If not, I'd like to perhaps recommend that this feature be added to the 3.92 (or later) wishlist. Thanks, in advance, for any information or advice. :-) -- ======== ======== "Information Superhighway" does for Internet == == what C.H.I.P.'s did for Cops. == == -= Destroy Ignorance -- Seek Higher Understanding ===== ======== Ask me for my PGP key. Privacy is your friend. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 17:12:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10535; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:12:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05191; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:59:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05185; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:59:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAnxU-00038EC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders In-Reply-To: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au's message of 1 Nov 1995 04: 36:43 GMT Message-Id: References: <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:45:42 GMT In article <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) writes: How do I look through a Pine folder (containing headers and messages saved as text) and know where the header for each message starts? I know the end of each header is marked as a blank line, but you can't mark the start of a header like this because the message itself could contain blank lines. A standard Berkeley style folder delineates messages by a "From " line following a blank line. Reading from the pine Tech Notes: Berkeley Mail Format This format comes to us from the ancient UNIX mail program, /bin/mail. (Note that this doesn't have anything to do with Berkeley, but we call it the Berkeley mail file format anyway.) This program was actually used to interactively read mail at one time, and is still used on many systems as the local delivery agent. In the Berkeley mail format, a folder is a simple text file. Each message (including the first) must start with a separator line which takes approximately the form: From juser@u.example.edu Wed Aug 11 14:32:33 1993 Each message ends with two blank lines. * There are actually several different varia- tions in the date part of the string, twenty at last count. * I think this should read "two newlines" -- i.e. _one_ blank line. Hope this helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 17:22:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10951; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:22:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07540; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:59:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07520; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:59:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAnur-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark A. Wille" Subject: Re: Out of free storage Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:06:43 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I don't know if this is going to be right, or if it is even going to help you, but do you know what your disk space quota on your server is? I know mine is only 10MB and that fills up fast. Try checking to see if you have surpassed your quota. ___________________________________________________________________ __Mark A. Wille_____________________World Wide Web_________________ __mwille@mcs.net______________http://www.mcs.net/~mwille___________ ___________________________________________________________________ On 31 Oct 1995, John Treloar wrote: > I am running pine 3.91 on a linux server. I have recieved some mail with a > large binary MIME attachment (5MB). When I try to read it (to see the text > part and save the attachment) I get an 'Out of free storage' message. > > Is there a way of increasing the storage space or is this just too big to > be practical? I couldn't see any options in the setup configuration. > > Thanks in anticipation. :-) > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > John R. Treloar > SBSS Pty. Ltd., PO Box 130 Bendigo Australia. > +61 54 424322 fax:+61 54 432847 > johnt@sbss.com.au http://www.sbss.com.au/ > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 18:07:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12275; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:07:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08996; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:59:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08990; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:59:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAosR-00038EC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: penguin@netcom.com (MUZAK) Subject: Seperate incoming folders... Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 02:32:46 GMT Since someone in my homehold ungraciously reads my PRIVATE email ALL the time. I can't get them to stop, so I have a question. Is there a way that (assuming my address is fatbob@gordo.com), someone can send a message to "secret.fatbob@gordo.com", it will go to my folder "Secret"? This would be kooler than kool. Or maybe there's a better solution that I'm not getting. (Yeah, I would use cryptography, but everyone I know is so lazy that they would just stop writting if I told them to encode the messages. Obviously, this would be a good message to respond to publicly. -- I'm Batman! uggg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 18:36:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13100; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:36:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07399; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:29:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07393; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:29:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tApMv-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neald@morgan.com (Neal A. Dillman) Subject: RFD: comp.mail.imap Date: 1 Nov 1995 22:13:27 -0000 Message-Id: <815264005.13184@uunet.uu.net> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.mail.imap Newsgroup line: comp.mail.imap Internet Message Access Protocol discussion group. Proponent: Neal A. Dillman RATIONALE: comp.mail.imap Discussions of IMAP (Internet Message Access Protocol) currently take place accross ~nine different news groups. As a result, users are forced to read and/or post to a number of mail groups in order to acquire the desired information. Creating comp.mail.imap will limit the need for crossposting and create a central place for IMAP related discussion. CHARTER: comp.mail.imap To provide a forum for the discussion of IMAP, IMSP, and other protocols interacting with IMAP and IMSP. The discussion will include information about and/or relating to IMAP clients, servers, and "middleware." The group will not be moderated. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This message initiates a discussion period to consider the creation of a comp.mail.imap newsgroup. Discussion will take place on news.groups. If discussions are made in other newsgroups, they should always be cross-posted to news.groups. * This is not a call for votes. Please do not attempt to vote now. A call for votes (CFV) will we issued approximately 3 weeks after this RFD. When the CFV is posted, there will be instructions on how to mail your votes to the independant vote-taker. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD is in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroups Creation, and has been cross-posted to the following relevant newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,comp.mail.headers,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.misc, comp.mail.multi-media,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.winsock.mail, comp.mail,comp.mail.pine,news.groups From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 18:41:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13243; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:41:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09646; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:31:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dale.ucdavis.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09640; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:31:20 -0800 Received: by dale.ucdavis.edu (8.6.12/UCD3.4) id SAA23594; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:31:19 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:31:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jeffrey Herrera X-Sender: ez057525@dale.ucdavis.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Would someone please help me. There is a bug in my system and no one=20 that I've asked knows how to help. Whenever I'm in pine, =FD=ADcommands=20 occur on their own and letters pop up on the screen randomly. I can't=20 even write a sentence before something happens. All of a sudden I'll be=20 in help or in another folder without even pressing a button. Writing=20 this message alone has taken about half an hour because of all the problems= . Plese write back if you can help. Thank you very much. =09=09=09=09=09=09=09Jeff Herrera From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 18:51:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13470; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:51:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09850; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:39:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09844; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:39:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tApWL-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Duempert Subject: PINE and the MAIL-environment-variable Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:47:39 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, 1. ELM makes use of the MAIL-environment-variable, i.e. at our site the path to a user's mail is determined during login by e.g. export MAIL=/net/rzserv0/usr/spool/mail By this means we're able to access a user's mail not only from ONE place, but ( as it is on my site ) at an arbitrary location in a multiserver- environment 2. To my knowledge PINE has a similar feature with the inbox-path= in the .pinerc-file. But this requires at least ONE PINE-Setup-run, which is not wanted for a novice user. 3. WANTED: If inbox-path='' then use the MAIL-environment-variable (if not empty) 4. QUESTION: Where is the right place to make the required mod(s) in the sources. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 19:11:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13881; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:11:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10238; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:04:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10232; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:04:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tApuz-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark A. Wille" Subject: Re: Signature Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:41:21 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Right... a little late :), but thanks anyway! ___________________________________________________________________ __Mark A. Wille_____________________World Wide Web_________________ __mwille@mcs.net______________http://www.mcs.net/~mwille___________ ___________________________________________________________________ On 28 Oct 1995, Dayong Liu wrote: > On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, Mark A. Wille wrote: > > > I have a question. In pine, how can you create a signature? Thank you > > very much. > > > Just produce a .signature file in your home directory, in Unix. > > -- > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Dayong Liu | Department of Technical Physics > dyliu@hs651.ihip.pku.edu.cn | Peking University > http://hs651.ihip.pku.edu.cn/~dyliu | Beijing 100871, P. R. China > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 19:27:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14461; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:27:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07881; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:59:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07875; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:59:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tApnd-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward H Fenster Subject: PC-PINE Time Zone Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:01:05 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. My copy of PC-PINE is properly putting Eastern Standard Time on my outgoing messages; however, it is marking them Pacific Standard Time. For instace, if I mail a message 3 p.m. EST (-0500), it is marked 3 p.m. PST (-0800). This happens in both Windows 3.11, as well as Windows/NT, which is properly set for EST (-0500). Mail I compose on my computer using different software (NUPOP) is properly stamped. Does anybody know how to fix the time zone marking on my outbound mail, or for that matter where PC-PINE gets the current time zone from? Thanks Much! - Edward From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 19:47:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15082; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:47:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08465; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:34:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08455; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:33:42 -0800 Received: from tartarus.uwa.edu.au (tartarus.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.3]) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA25985; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:33:34 +0800 Received: (from gtminch@localhost) by tartarus.uwa.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) id LAA14467; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:32:59 +0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:32:59 +0800 (WST) From: Graham Minchin To: Sven Guckes Cc: Pine Information Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Thanks for your little pointer, but the problem is more the detection of where each header starts. If the header is included in other mail (ie if somebody mailed me a header) then I'd want to consider it as just part of the message. Graham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 19:50:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15172; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:50:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08580; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:39:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08574; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:39:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAqSV-00038DC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: whoppe@mccc.edu (Willard Hoppe CS131-5100 F95) Subject: Pine For MS Networks? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 01:33:15 GMT Is there a version of PINE that works on Microsoft networks? -b From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 20:27:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16240; Wed, 1 Nov 95 20:27:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11340; Wed, 1 Nov 95 20:14:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11334; Wed, 1 Nov 95 20:14:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAqzs-00038DC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 20:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark A. Wille" Subject: Re: Signature Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:50:19 -0600 Message-Id: References: <46tuf4$d4t@cnct.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Ginny: You don't access it from Pine... you access it from pico. Hope this helps. ___________________________________________________________________ __Mark A. Wille_____________________World Wide Web_________________ __mwille@mcs.net______________http://www.mcs.net/~mwille___________ ___________________________________________________________________ On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, Ginny Short wrote: > On 28 Oct 1995, Cassady Kent wrote: > > > Mark A. Wille (mwille@mcs.net) wrote: > > : I have a question. In pine, how can you create a signature? Thank you > > : very much. > > > > Put whatever you want in a file named .signature (the initial dot is > > required) in your home directory. That works 99% of the time. If it > > doesn't, check your setup configuration menu within pine. > > > > Please give me more details in creating a signature. How do you access > the file from Pine to create the signature? > > ginny short > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 22:05:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18919; Wed, 1 Nov 95 22:05:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10867; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:59:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10861; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:59:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAsdm-00038DC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stephen Weihman Subject: Re: Pine Source code Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 09:36:48 -0500 Message-Id: <30978600.7E21@stpd001.gteds.gtenet.com> References: <471d1a$ffb@delphi.bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cravenja@cleo.bc.edu wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get the Pine source? ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine -- Stephen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 22:06:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18964; Wed, 1 Nov 95 22:06:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13090; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:59:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13078; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:59:01 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18699; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:58:55 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:58:55 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Peter Duempert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE and the MAIL-environment-variable In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You don't need to modify any code; just put the env. variable on the right side of the inbox-path variable in your system-wide pine.conf file. -teg On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, Peter Duempert wrote: > Hi, > 1. ELM makes use of the MAIL-environment-variable, i.e. at our site the > path to a user's mail is determined during login by e.g. > export MAIL=/net/rzserv0/usr/spool/mail > By this means we're able to access a user's mail not only from ONE place, > but ( as it is on my site ) at an arbitrary location in a multiserver- > environment > 2. To my knowledge PINE has a similar feature > with the > inbox-path= > in the .pinerc-file. > But this requires at least ONE PINE-Setup-run, which is not wanted for > a novice user. > 3. WANTED: If inbox-path='' then use the MAIL-environment-variable (if not > empty) > 4. QUESTION: Where is the right place to make the required mod(s) in the > sources. > Thanks > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 01:47:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23865; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:47:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14120; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:43:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14092; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:40:39 -0800 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA16527; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:36:22 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:36:17 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Fernando Pinho Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Simple mail server administrator - help In-Reply-To: <477iie$sgd@rjo02.embratel.net.br> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_(=DATIA)_AV_=C8R?= Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Read-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 1 Nov 1995, Fernando Pinho wrote: > I'm looking for a shareware program to implement a mail > server to suport a mail service at my local net and > for Internet with a single dial-up access. >=20 > Does it possible ? >=20 > If you know anything to help me please, email me ok ? >=20 > Thanks in advance I think the easiest way to do it is SmartList package cooperating with procmail package--these packages are made by the same person and are easy to install. They can be downloaded from ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/unix/. The original site is somewhere in Germany. Hope this helps. V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 01:48:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23905; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:48:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16358; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:40:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16352; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:40:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAw7J-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: luttrell@netcom.com (Jordan D. Luttrell) Subject: PC-Pine Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 04:47:53 GMT I use Pine right now on a Shell account via an Internet provider, Best.com, but I would like to use PC-Pine on my PC. What I would mainly like to do is compose messages off-line, as needed, then just upload them once or twice a day, whenever I go on-line. One of my PC's is at home; the other is at work, a bookshop, with five computers on a LanTastic network (but I access the Best.com Shell account directly from one of the workstations). I gather there are about 5 versions of PC-Pine; can I use one of these in my situation, and if so, which one? I would rather not use the Windows version, as I am working for the most part under DesqView and DOS 6.2, using QEMM as the memory manager. Many thanks, Joe Luttrell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 02:18:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24545; Thu, 2 Nov 95 02:18:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14509; Thu, 2 Nov 95 02:15:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14503; Thu, 2 Nov 95 02:15:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAwbv-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 02:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmbarton@mci.net (Daniel Barton) Subject: Searching body of messages Date: 1 Nov 1995 18:12:41 GMT Message-Id: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text string? "W" only searches the info that's in the index. The only way I know to do it is to leave pine and grep through the mail directory or mail folder. If not, can I add this as yet-another requirement? I'd like to be able to specify to search subjects only, search all mail (including the body of the message) in a folder, and search all mail (including body) of a folder collection. --------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 03:12:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25625; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:12:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17435; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:05:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17429; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:05:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAxRc-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Extra Page When Printing Using "attached-to-ansi" Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 19:00:59 GMT Message-Id: <478g4b$7h2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I love the ability to print to my local printer, but I get a blank page ejected after every e-mail message I print from Pine using the "y" command and accepting "attached-to-ansi" as the printer. I'm using FTP Software's Windows(3.1)-based TNVT telnet program to connect directly to my shell account on a UNIX host. I've checked with FTP Software and they say there's no way to control the page eject through their program. Any thoughts or suggestions? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 03:52:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26673; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:52:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15609; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:44:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15603; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:43:58 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:33:15 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA08670; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:33:50 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:33:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Daniel Barton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Searching body of messages In-Reply-To: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You want to use the "Select" (";") command. First you must enable this by going to the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu). Turn on the "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature, then Exit (E) back to the Main Menu. In the Folder Index (the list summarising your messages) type: ; ...Select messages T ...based on a text item A ...all message text string ...the search string Return The selected messages get an "X" shown at the start of their entries. You can now do either or both of: Z ...Zoom the list down to just show the selected messages (another Z will unzoom it) or A ...to apply a command to all the selected messages You can cancel the list of selected messages by typing "; A" to unselect them all. (If none are selected this same sequence selects them all.) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 1 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text > string? "W" only searches the info that's in the index. The only way > I know to do it is to leave pine and grep through the mail directory or > mail folder. > > If not, can I add this as yet-another requirement? I'd like to be able > to specify to search subjects only, search all mail (including the body of the > message) in a folder, and search all mail (including body) of a folder > collection. > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | > | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | > | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | > --------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 04:03:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26981; Thu, 2 Nov 95 04:03:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15771; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:55:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15765; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:55:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAyC2-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hoyle@phys.unca.edu (Matt Hoyle) Subject: [Q] Setting up multiple address books Date: 1 Nov 1995 17:49:23 GMT Message-Id: <478bv3$3dm@balsam.unca.edu> Hello, :) Can someone give me a hint on setting up multiple address books? I'm using Pine 3.91 running on a Sun workstation. I looked all through pine's configuration file and in some of the help screens, but to no avail. I tried entering two filenames on the field address-book = < > in the config but that didn't work either. Please reply via email, and thanks in advance. :) Matt Hoyle physics major, classical music University of North Carolina aficianado(?), (thinks he can at Asheville play guitar), avid amateur astro- hoyle@phys.unca.edu nomer, and internet junkie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 05:59:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00185; Thu, 2 Nov 95 05:59:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20018; Thu, 2 Nov 95 05:50:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20012; Thu, 2 Nov 95 05:50:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAzzF-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 05:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: pre-created addressbook ? Date: 1 Nov 95 21:35:43 GMT Message-Id: I pre-create addressbook lists for faculty so that they may have a class list ready to go. The format I use is classname tab classname tab ("lastname, firstname" comma space space space "lastname, firstname" comma ... space space space "lastname, firstname" ) My instructions are just, download the file (the pile of them are in the gopher) then cat classname.pine >> .addressbook But sometimes it doesn't work. Returned messages are: Unbalanced '"' or Unbalanced '<' but the files are generated by a script so there are no unbalanced delimiters, and i've checked the files by hand too and they appear fine. (Yes i know, i've made sure that the tabs come down ok) So 1) is there a limit on the size of addressbook entries ? i don't think that this is my problem because one large class works fine, and a smaller one appears to be a problem 2) is it ok to use those dquote realname dquote entried what is the exact wanted addressbook format ? i don't wanna have to read the source code and what is the relationship with .addressbook.lu ? 3) is there some other obscure bug related to addressbooks 4) anyone else doing this I've considered removing the realname sections, but then its hard for a prof to try to matchup the usernames with their students when some leave the class or new ones enter. Yes i know that finger info will be added, but students like to put in funky names there so you don't actually get their real names. More info. Using pine 3.91 on AIX 3.2.5 -- __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 06:24:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00724; Thu, 2 Nov 95 06:24:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17994; Thu, 2 Nov 95 06:13:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from starburst.cbl.cees.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17988; Thu, 2 Nov 95 06:13:15 -0800 Received: (from pinelist@localhost) by starburst.cbl.cees.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA03336; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:13:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:13:14 -0500 (EST) From: Pine Discussion List To: Pine List Subject: Problems with pcpine 3.91 and sendmail 8.7.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have the packet driver version of pcpine 3.91 connecting to a Sun SPARC 5 imap server running sendmail 8.7.1. When I try to send a message from pcpine, I get an error "Cant connect to mail server: " and the message is never sent. Is there some option I need to set in the sendmail.cf? Thanks in advance, Larry Lentner UMCEES/CBL Computer Center From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 07:07:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01742; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:07:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20859; Thu, 2 Nov 95 06:47:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fred.Cary.mci.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20853; Thu, 2 Nov 95 06:47:43 -0800 Received: by fred.cary.mci.net (8.6.12/kaw-mci.net/feb95) id JAA02373; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:36:47 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:36:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel M. Barton" X-Sender: dmbarton@fred.cary.mci.net To: Mike Brudenell , martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Searching body of messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks a bunch to both of you! This solution works great! Do you know of a way to search all the mail in all the folders of a folder collection? I don't think pine does this yet, right? Regards, Daniel --------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | --------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > You want to use the "Select" (";") command. > > First you must enable this by going to the Setup Configuration screen (S > then C from the Main Menu). Turn on the "enable-aggregate-command-set" > feature, then Exit (E) back to the Main Menu. > > In the Folder Index (the list summarising your messages) type: > > ; ...Select messages > T ...based on a text item > A ...all message text > string ...the search string > Return > > The selected messages get an "X" shown at the start of their entries. > > You can now do either or both of: > > Z ...Zoom the list down to just show the selected > messages (another Z will unzoom it) > or > A ...to apply a command to all the selected messages > > You can cancel the list of selected messages by typing "; A" to unselect > them all. (If none are selected this same sequence selects them all.) > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On 1 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > > > Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text > > string? "W" only searches the info that's in the index. The only way > > I know to do it is to leave pine and grep through the mail directory or > > mail folder. > > > > If not, can I add this as yet-another requirement? I'd like to be able > > to specify to search subjects only, search all mail (including the body of the > > message) in a folder, and search all mail (including body) of a folder > > collection. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | > > | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | > > | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 07:29:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02365; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:29:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19122; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:21:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19116; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:20:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB1OA-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: a different editor than pico? Date: 2 Nov 95 14:11:31 GMT Message-Id: References: <46sjsb$8b5@cnct.com> lbi@netcom.com (lux) writes: >Cassady Kent (mlck@cnct.com) wrote: >: lux (lbi@netcom.com) wrote: >: : How do I arrange to use a different edit inside pine (like emacs)? >: : I see references to it being done in the faq I have from months ago, >: : but it doesn't mention how you go about doing it. >: You have to find the Editor = line in the configuration >: menu. From the Main Menu within Pine, type s for setup, c for >: configuration, and space down to the last page of the menu and select the >: Editor = line. >Okay, I did this. >: When no value is set for the alternate editor, Pine uses Pico. Use the Add >: Value command to change it to vi or emacs and maybe others for all I know. >: At this point, Pine still uses Pico. You have to find the >: enable-alternate-editor- lines on screen two of the configuration menu and >: pick one. Enable-alternate-editor-cmd allows you to run emacs only when >: you request it with the 'switch to alternate editor' command ^_. >At first I left this unset. >: Enable-alternate-editor-implicitly will run emacs automatically whenever >: you compose or edit a letter. >I set this, but still when I try to compose a letter pico comes up. >I also tried this with enable-alternate-editor-cmd set and pico comes up. >Did I miss something, or is there a way to use a different editor >(implicity and without the C-_ command thing)? >there is now a line in my .pinerc file which reads > features-list=enable-alternate-editor-implicitly >and another which reads > editor=emacs >but pico still gets used. Any ideas? Did you exit and restart pine? I have been using pine with jove since 3.91 came out. >thanks -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 07:34:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02534; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:34:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21568; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:31:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21562; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:30:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB1Zg-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elynch@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Edith Lynch) Subject: newsgroups Date: 1 Nov 1995 17:11:23 GMT Message-Id: <4789nr$5qk@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> I was just wondering if anyone could give me a few suggestions on the best way to read newsgroups through pine. Thank you. -- Edith Lynch Memorial University of Newfoundland St. John's, NF, Canada From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 09:21:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07585; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:21:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21974; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:16:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21968; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:16:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB3EZ-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tyren@teleport.com (Shane DeSeranno) Subject: Auto-Fowarding? Date: 2 Nov 1995 16:59:56 GMT Message-Id: <47atec$h3j@maureen.teleport.com> Hello Everyone... I just wanted to ask if it's possible to 'auto-forward' my mail using Pine. That is, I have two accounts, but want all the mail to go to one. Is it possible? If you figure it out please e-mail me at: tyren@pacifier.com Please note: I won't be watching this newsgroup, so any reply into the newsgroup won't get to me. Thanx, Shane From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 09:58:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09787; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:58:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25117; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:53:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25090; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:53:17 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:40:32 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id PAA08447; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:41:10 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:41:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Daniel M. Barton" Cc: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Searching body of messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi - You are correct... as far as I know Pine cannot (yet?) search all folders of a folder collection. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Daniel M. Barton wrote: > Thanks a bunch to both of you! This solution works great! > > Do you know of a way to search all the mail in all the folders of a > folder collection? I don't think pine does this yet, right? > > Regards, Daniel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 10:14:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10610; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:14:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25556; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:06:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25550; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:06:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB40w-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Dale Fraser) Subject: Stop copying to sent-mail Date: 1 Nov 1995 20:23:02 GMT Message-Id: <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> How can I stop Pine 3.91 from appending a copy of each mail message sent to the sent-mail folder? Dale -- STEM~Net, Programmer Consultant dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca E-5035, Memorial University Voice: (709)737-8836 St. John's, NF, A1B 3X8 Fax: (709)737-2179 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 10:48:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12373; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:48:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24151; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:41:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24145; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:41:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB4Wu-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jacky.simpson@almac.co.uk (JACKY SIMPSON) Subject: credit cards Message-Id: <8B42589.12EC0029B9.uuout@almac.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 23:37:00 +0100 + INTRODUCING YOU TO A FREE VISA CARD facility WITHOUT any CREDIT checks If you are currently "black"listed by the national credit computers I can help you to get a new visa card---- NOBODY is refused. Tofind out how you can join this facility email me your email address and i will send you further information p.s You can make good money by in turn offering this facility to others in the same position thanks for your attention jacky jacky.simpson@almac.co.uk Jacky Simpson Jacky Simpson --- * 1st 2.00 * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 11:39:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15460; Thu, 2 Nov 95 11:39:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27797; Thu, 2 Nov 95 11:26:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27791; Thu, 2 Nov 95 11:26:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB5EA-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 11:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: Stop copying to sent-mail Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:01:38 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 1 Nov 1995, Dale Fraser wrote: > How can I stop Pine 3.91 from appending a copy of each mail message sent to the > sent-mail folder? Delete the contents of the "Fcc:"-line in the header. Ralf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 13:07:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20070; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:07:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00391; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:00:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet2.afn.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00375; Thu, 2 Nov 95 12:59:59 -0800 Received: from navaho.eel.ufl.edu by freenet2.freenet.ufl.edu (8.6.12/4.11) id PAA31770; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:59:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:57:12 -0500 (EST) From: Out of his mind X-Sender: amigagod@navaho.eel.ufl.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca Subject: Re: Stop copying to sent-mail In-Reply-To: <199511022050.AA177965423@sioux.eel.ufl.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Automatic digest processor wrote: > From: dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Dale Fraser) > How can I stop Pine 3.91 from appending a copy of each mail message sent to the > sent-mail folder? Go into (S)etup (C)onfig from the main menu, use the cursor arrow keys to get to "default-fcc". If it says , hit (A)dd and then ENTER to change it to . If a value is set, simply hit ENTER to change it, delete it to leave it blank, and it should say as well. ===== == Todd Vierling (tv@pobox.com): In cyberspace no one can hear you scream. == === Plug: I do freelance C/Perl *IX programming and WWW design. E-mail me === === Vierling's Law: The revolution won't be televised; it will be posted. === From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 13:20:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20572; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:20:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00970; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:11:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00964; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:11:55 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03015; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:11:21 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:11:18 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: MUZAK Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Seperate incoming folders... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The tmail delivery agent can accept a message to an address like fatbob+secret@gordo.com and deliver it to fatbob's secret folder. I think you do need to make some small changes to sendmail to ignore the "+secret" part of the address when deciding where to deliver to. Tmail is available in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 24 Oct 1995, MUZAK wrote: > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 02:32:46 GMT > From: MUZAK > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Seperate incoming folders... > > Since someone in my homehold ungraciously reads my PRIVATE email ALL the time. > I can't get them to stop, so I have a question. Is there a > way that (assuming my address is fatbob@gordo.com), someone can send a > message to "secret.fatbob@gordo.com", it will go to my folder "Secret"? > This would be kooler than kool. Or maybe there's a better solution that > I'm not getting. (Yeah, I would use cryptography, but everyone I know is > so lazy that they would just stop writting if I told them to encode the > messages. Obviously, this would be a good message to respond to publicly. > > > -- > I'm Batman! uggg > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 13:25:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20786; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:25:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01192; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:20:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from panix2.panix.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01186; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:20:42 -0800 Received: (from wlinden@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id QAA28131; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:20:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:20:37 -0500 (EST) From: Will Linden To: Daniel Barton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Searching body of messages In-Reply-To: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text > string? "W" only searches the info that's in the index. The only way > I know to do it is to leave pine and grep through the mail directory or > mail folder. Use ";" for Select, "T" for Text, and "A" for entire message text, then enter the search string. Messages containing the string will be "selected". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 14:05:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22604; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:05:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02270; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:02:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02264; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:02:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB7gs-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gundam Subject: Problems with multiple nntp servers Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:53:31 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm a novice user of Pine and I have a serious problem with the news support of that program. I have configured Pine to show News from two servers, but if I'm subscribed on one server, the newsgroup is shown also in the second! Is there a trick to split the newsgroup lists by servers? Thanks for all... ______ __ __ ______ ______ ______ _______ !------!!--!!--!!------!!------!!------!!-------! ! !---!! !! !! ! !! __ !! __ !! ! ! ! ! !!--!! !! !! ! !! !! !! !! !! !_! ! ! !! !! !! !! ! !! ^^ !! ^^ !! ! ! ! !______!!______!!___!__!!______!!__!!__!!__! !__! / E-Mail: zulli@gulliver.unian.it / /-----------------------------------------------/ / Try to Finger me... / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 14:39:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24532; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:39:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03159; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:33:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03153; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:33:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB86X-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Question: Is Kill Possible in Pine? Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:48:05 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Charlie Channel wrote: > I'm getting undesired email and would like to kill it without ever > reading it. Is there any way to do that in Pine? > If you use a PC with a communications program that provides a script language, you can write a script to run the Pine commands to select and delete the undesired stuff (that is, if it has something distinguishing in the header or text). You may want to go into setup and enable the aggregate command function if you haven't done so already. This allows you to apply one command to all messages which meet the selection criteria. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 14:56:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25453; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:56:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01160; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:47:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01154; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:47:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB8Mp-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bagwill@kangaroo.ncsl.nist.gov (Robert Bagwill) Subject: Re: The FUTURE Power of PINE! Date: 2 Nov 1995 14:25:45 GMT Message-Id: <47akd9$3ln@dove.nist.gov> References: In article , tih@Hamartun.Priv.NO (Tom I Helbekkmo) writes: >blackda@freenet.scri.fsu.edu (Dave) writes: >Instead of folders, >I'd like to have an inverted text database with specific recognition >of header fields and inter-message referencing, Exmh has incorporated Glimpse indexing and searching. -- Bob Bagwill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 14:57:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25526; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:57:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03542; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:47:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03536; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:47:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB8Mn-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pickerra@rose.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) Subject: Re: Stop copying to sent-mail Date: 2 Nov 1995 09:17:22 -0500 Message-Id: <47ajti$4b1e@rose.muohio.edu> References: <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Our you can just set the fcc variable in the .pinerc file accordingly: # default-fcc specifies where a copy of outgoing mail is saved. If this is # To suppress saving of outgoing mail, set: default-fcc="" default-fcc="" And it won't do it anymore. -Rob Powder (jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : In article <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, : Dale Fraser wrote: : >How can I stop Pine 3.91 from appending a copy of each mail message sent to the : >sent-mail folder? : I think there is no system configuration to prevent this. I'd like to be : proven wrong on this. : You have to delete the FCC: field everytime you send an e-mail ... : Eric -- -- Everything below this line is my signature, it is not directed at anyone Robert A. Pickering Jr. UNIX Software Specialist Miami Computing and Information Services pickerin@muohio.edu PGP key ID: 75CAFF7D 1995/05/09 PGP Fingerprint: B1 63 0C 09 D8 2E 5D 69 BB 61 A2 92 22 37 63 C3 "Most people, if they counted how many people swam across the river, would never think about building bridges." - Ronald Altman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 15:29:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27254; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:29:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04604; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:22:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04596; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:22:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB8vG-00038IC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: university address Date: 2 Nov 1995 04:32:54 GMT Message-Id: <479hlm$28g@guava.epix.net> References: H Song (hsong@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote: : To whom ever can help me, : I am currently trying to get a hold of my cousin in the university of : texas . I have not been able to get a holdof her so that she could clarify : what exacltly her address is . So far all I got from her : is"*(her identity which I will not disclose)*@.utexas.edu". : As you might already know this is not the address of the university of : texas . Can you give it to me ? : I suspect that the "@.utexas.edu" part is wrong . It would be much : appreciated and welcomed . Nope the @utexas.edu thingy is correct so far, but you have to be more specific about who you're looking for. 2 choices: 1 If you have full internet access try the following URL and search thru the hypertext forms (there are 20 plus people at utexas with the string 'song' in the name) http://www.utexas.edu/ 2 If you can't or don't know how to do that, send me private e-mail with more information about the person you are looking for, and I will write back to you. Hope this helps. G'Day. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ cc m j From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 16:13:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29937; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:13:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05652; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:59:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05646; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:59:09 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:58 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:58 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:58 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:58 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Filtering? Is it possible? To: Brandon@byu.edu (Brandon) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:58:23 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <46qrsu$hkg@hamblin.math.byu.edu> from "Brandon" at Oct 27, 95 02:55:26 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 287 Quoting Brandon: > Is it possible to filter incoming email so that you can send or forward > a message to a new location? Yes, you can forward all mails with the "forward" mechanism. For more info take a look at page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/mail.forwarding.html Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 16:17:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00264; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:17:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03496; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:07:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03490; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:07:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB9bp-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: awnbreel@panix.com (Michael Weholt) Subject: Re: university address Date: 1 Nov 1995 23:07:03 -0500 Message-Id: <479g57$i50@panix2.panix.com> References: ]---> In , ]---> H Song (hsong@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote: > I suspect that the "@.utexas.edu" part is wrong . It would be much > appreciated and welcomed . Try a domain of: @mail.utexas.edu I checked the University of Texas homepage/email directory, ran a search on some dummy names, and all the email addresses used the above domain. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael Weholt Calm Sea & awnbreel@panix.com a Prosperous Voyage http://www.panix.com/~awnbreel/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 16:23:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00537; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:23:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03780; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:14:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03773; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:14:34 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:13 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:13 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:13 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:13 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: How to redirect incoming mail To: aaron@irdu.nus.sg (Aaron Aw) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:13:42 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Aaron Aw" at Oct 30, 95 09:55:49 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 619 Quoting Aaron Aw: > Does anyone know how to redirect incoming mail to different folders? > I understand that we need to use the filter program or some others. Yes, a "filter" is the program used to deal with incoming mail. This is independent to the "mailer" (mail user agent to be exact) you use, ie it does not matter whether you use Pine, Elm, whatever to read your mail. Elm comes with a simple to use filter named "filter". If it is installed on your system then just follow these instructions: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html There is also a link to the "Filter FAQ" and more. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 16:47:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01955; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:47:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07017; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:42:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07011; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:42:44 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:41 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:41 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:41 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:41 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Auto-Fowarding? To: tyren@teleport.com (Shane DeSeranno), tyren@pacifier.com Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:41:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (Pine Information) In-Reply-To: <47atec$h3j@maureen.teleport.com> from "Shane DeSeranno" at Nov 2, 95 04:59:56 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 251 Quoting Shane DeSeranno: > I just wanted to ask if it's possible to 'auto-forward' my mail using Pine. > That is, I have two accounts, but want all the mail to go to one. Read this: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/mail.forwarding.html Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 16:48:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02010; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:48:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06994; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:42:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06988; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:42:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBACT-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Don Miller Subject: PINE 3.91/3.92 and nntp 'pinging' Date: 2 Nov 1995 01:00:01 GMT Message-Id: <47956h$es6@mark.ucdavis.edu> Greetings, all: We have PINE 3.91 running on a sparc (Solaris 2.3), using a remote newsfeed, and the following problem has arisen: When a user has the expanded-view-of-folders option toggled on, and has a news collection which points to the remote nntp server, then every time they open PINE, even just their INBOX or another local mail file, PINE keeps establishing connections to the nntp-server, presumably to keep updating the list of subscribed newsgroups. Since most users check their e-mail far more often than they use the news services, is there a way to suppress this, or alternatively to have the program allow them to select expanded-view-of-folders for their Mail collection ONLY? (Most of them seem to find it confusing to have to expand the folder each time they look at an index...). If this isn't possible in 3.91, any hope it might be available in 3.92 or a future release? Thanks in advance for any information you may have on this. Don Miller < dmiller@jfku.jfku.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 17:12:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04020; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:12:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05163; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:02:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05157; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:02:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBAVc-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Powder) Subject: Re: Stop copying to sent-mail Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 01:38:56 GMT References: <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> In article <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, Dale Fraser wrote: >How can I stop Pine 3.91 from appending a copy of each mail message sent to the >sent-mail folder? I think there is no system configuration to prevent this. I'd like to be proven wrong on this. You have to delete the FCC: field everytime you send an e-mail ... Eric From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 17:13:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04081; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:13:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07525; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:02:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07519; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:02:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBAVe-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Powder) Subject: Re: How do u Personalize your name on pine? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 01:41:56 GMT References: In article , wrote: >I was wondering how u personalize your name on pine?? >Please give me a step by step way of doing it. If you're in UNIX, you can personalize your real name by entering "chfn" or "password -f" at the UNIX prompt. If you're not using UNIX or don't want to change the real name in your UNIX account, then change Pine --- press S and C at Pine's main menu. Then press A to add a value to the field "personal-name". Eric From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 18:30:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06697; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:30:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07061; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:27:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07055; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:27:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBBoB-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: How To Change From: Field in Header Date: 2 Nov 1995 02:02:22 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4721ob$d3u@cocoa.brown.edu> The easiest solution is to use a "Reply-To:" customized header. There are other options available for changing your actual FROM line, but they require the ability to recompile pine and/or edit sendmail. If you are interested, e-mail me. Jerry On 30 Oct 1995, Michael J. Weiss wrote: > Hi, I usually send email from several accounts. I would like all outgoing > messages sent with Pine to appear as if they were sent from my email > alias, mjw@pobox.com. How can I do this? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 18:57:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07299; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:57:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10040; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:52:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10034; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:52:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBCDV-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Darren Stone Subject: 50 line display? Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:05:16 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Using elm & tin, my LINES=50 environment variable (under Unix) allowed me to see a good sized screenful of info. Well, I'm a pine convert now, but I'm stuck with a dinky little 25-line display that only fills half my screen. HELP! ------------------+------------------------------------------+--------------- Darren Stone | Frisbeetarianism, n.: | __/\ Vancouver, B.C. | The belief that when you die, your soul | _o / \ \__ stoned@wimsey.com | goes up on the roof and gets stuck. __O>O_/ 89FJ600 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 20:05:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08956; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:05:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08698; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:02:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08686; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:02:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBDJ2-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu Subject: could use some more help please:) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:06:39 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI, I sent out the message early in the week about windows for pine. Well, I'm starting to get used to Pine and really like it. However, I still can't figure out how to get on to the webb using this system. Can anyone help? Thanks again, Jill jilmarie@imap.asu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 20:44:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09986; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:44:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11801; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:37:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11795; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:37:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBDpO-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aq957@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Lane A. Smith) Subject: Deleting a range of messages Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 22:48:01 GMT Forgive my ignorance, but can someone please tell me how to delete a range of messages in PINE? Also, is there a FAQ for this group? Thanks, lane -- "Interjections!! show excitement!! or emotion!! (and are generally set aside in a sentence by an exclamation point, or by a comma when the feeling's not as strong.)" Grammar Rock, ABC-TV c. 1973 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 20:49:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10153; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:49:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09455; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:47:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09449; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:47:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBE2N-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Donald Sitompul Subject: [Q]: Don't show empty newsgroups and... Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 06:12:48 GMT Hello pine experts, many times when I enter to a newsgroup and after waiting a couple seconds, the newsgroup turned out to be empty. Anyone knows how to show only unempty newgroups? Also, how to stop adding new newsgroups when I starts pine? Thank you very much. -Donald Sitompul sitompul@cs.umn.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 20:56:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10312; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:56:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09553; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:54:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09547; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:53:59 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:53 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:53 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:53 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:53 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: could use some more help please:) To: jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:53:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu" at Nov 2, 95 06:06:39 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 583 Quoting jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu: > I sent out the message early in the week about windows for pine. > Well, I'm starting to get used to Pine and really like it. > However, I still can't figure out how to get on to the web using this system. Pine is not a web browser. Well, not yet. ;-) You could, however, request web pages via email requests. Here is an example: header: To: webmail@curia.ucc.ie Subject: anytext body: go http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ I am only reproducing this from a post. I have never verified it. But I will try it right away. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 21:02:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10497; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:02:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12171; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:00:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12165; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:59:57 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:59 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:59 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:59 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:59 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: 50 line display? To: stoned@vanbc.wimsey.com (Darren Stone) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:59:50 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Darren Stone" at Nov 2, 95 09:05:16 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 863 Quoting Darren Stone: > Using elm & tin, my LINES=50 environment variable (under Unix) allowed me > to see a good sized screenful of info. > Well, I'm a pine convert now, but I'm stuck with a dinky little 25-line > display that only fills half my screen. HELP! To cite a recent (very recent!) post to this list: From: gs01mew@panther.Gsu.EDU (Eric Wardowski) Subject: Re: Screen size in Pine on Unix Date: 30 Oct 1995 14:22:10 GMT [...] Got an answer. I had to type "stty rows 42" to get the rest of the programs to recognize the screen size. As far as the rest, I run Procomm Plus 2.01 for DOS. I find that occasionally I have to type - to do a "Reset Terminal" in Procomm when Pine had set the terminal lines to 22 or 24. Now all works well! Summary: Try "stty rows 50" at you shell and then start Pine again from that shell. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 21:22:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11013; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:22:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12512; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:17:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12506; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:17:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBERS-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Davy Cheung Subject: Re: Just-send-8? Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 09:07:38 +0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hello Mr Erlingsson, As I found that I can't send you my reply, let me post here. Hope you don't mind... ==Forward==> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 09:01:22 +0800 (HKT) From: Davy Cheung To: Leif Erlingsson cc: Leif Erlingsson Subject: Re: Just-send-8? Hello, On Mon, 23 Oct 1995, Leif Erlingsson wrote: > > Is there any method to make Pine 3.91 to post with 8-bit directly? > > Ahhhhh, I found the patch here at work. Here goes........ Oh! Thanks a lot for your great help!! Regards, Davy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 21:51:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11854; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:51:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10421; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:48:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10415; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:48:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBExQ-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jblake@binghamton.edu (Jim Blake) Subject: Setting my user-id in Unix Pine Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 14:51:33 -0400 Message-Id: I'm trying to figure something out -- it's probably something simple that I'm overlooking. I've decided to swallow my pride and beg for help from the cogniscenti. We're using an IMAP server on campus, and I have a mailbox there with the id of 'jblake'. I'm reading my mail using PC-Pine sometimes, and other times from a Unix system (SunOS) where my id is 'jim'. I can read my IMAP mail just by specifying the INBOX path correctly. But when I send mail, I want it to appear to come from 'jblake', and I can't seem to make that happen. PC-Pine accepts a parameter for "user-id=jblake". I specify that and my domain, and voila!, the mail I send appears to come from jblake@binghamton.edu. Unix Pine, on the other hand, does not recognize the "user-id" parameter, and though I twist and turn and set environment variables until I get tired, my mail still appears to come from jim#binghamton.edu -- which is not a valid address! I know of other people on campus who have this problem also; some using SunOS and some using Solaris. Any suggestions will be appreciated. jb -- Jim Blake Binghamton, NY 13902-6000 Assistant Director jblake@binghamton.edu Binghamton University Computing Services (607)777-2095 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 22:32:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12859; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:32:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13624; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:28:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13618; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:28:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBFZZ-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu (Dean Pentcheff) Subject: Re: PGP & Pine Date: 25 Oct 1995 20:21:24 -0400 Message-Id: <46mka4$kv7@tbone.biol.sc.edu> References: Davy Cheung writes: >On Sat, 21 Oct 1995, krzysiek wrote: >> Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.6, a Pine/PGP interface. >Just curious... Where to find? Any version for PC-Pine? For information on mkpgp, use the following command: finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu To get a copy of mkpgp, send a blank email message to: slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with: Subject: mkpgp It is written in csh, though (a Unix shell language), so it will definitely not run on a PC for PC-Pine. -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information using the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 22:45:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13122; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:45:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11258; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:43:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11252; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:43:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBFoE-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Searching body of messages Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:47:19 -0500 Message-Id: References: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> On 1 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text > string? " ; t a " then enter string. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 01:45:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16898; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:45:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16719; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:33:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16709; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:33:03 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:31:06 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA07911; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:32:02 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:32:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Donald Sitompul Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q]: Don't show empty newsgroups and... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can't stop them being *shown* (after all, you *have* subscribed to them). But what you *can* do is press the Tab key. This moves you to the next New message in the current newsgroup. If there isn't one it offers to keep searching through newsgroups (skipping empty ones) until it fins one. If there are no more it offers to return you to the INBOX. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Donald Sitompul wrote: > Hello pine experts, many times when I enter to a newsgroup and after > waiting a couple seconds, the newsgroup turned out to be empty. Anyone > knows how to show only unempty newgroups? Also, how to stop adding new > newsgroups when I starts pine? Thank you very much. > > -Donald Sitompul > sitompul@cs.umn.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 02:12:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17374; Fri, 3 Nov 95 02:12:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17015; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:58:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17009; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:58:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBIp0-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsse@inffour.com (Jun-Seong Park) Subject: How can 8bit characters be typed in "Subject" field? Date: 26 Oct 1995 06:27:03 GMT Message-Id: <46n9nn$4n4@usenet.hana.nm.kr> I cannot type 8bit characters in the "Subject" field. From the source programs, I got to know only 7bit characters can be displyed in header fields. The related file is composer.c which is located in pine3.91/pine. Anyone who can help me solve this problem? Thanks for your kind attention. Jun-Seong Park Korea Telecom S/W Research Lab. e-mail : jsse@inffour.kotel.co.kr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 04:01:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19537; Fri, 3 Nov 95 04:01:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15840; Fri, 3 Nov 95 03:48:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15834; Fri, 3 Nov 95 03:48:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBKZp-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 03:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Saving messages to a floppy Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 12:09:38 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Phil Tompkins wrote: > Sorry, left out a step. You have to get out of Pine and go to the shell > to download or use the cat command. > Phil You seem to be referring to using Pine on Unix or some sort of Unix-like system. In that case, Ctrl-Z should get you out to the shell. Use 'fg' (foreground) to resume Pine. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 05:12:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21916; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:12:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19784; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:04:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19778; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:04:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBLmI-00038EC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Running PGP from Pine Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:11:45 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <46nk1k$891@esanews.denet.dk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 26 Oct 1995, Martin Kofoed wrote: > Hi! > > This question probably has been up several times, but I just added this > group today. Yup. It is, but it is a good question. > Are there any ways to get Pine to encrypt a message using PGP? I'm > running Pine on a Ultrix system (DEC) There are several shell scripts that do exactly what you want. One is mkpgp which you can find out about by sending mail to shlutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (with subject "mkpgp" I think). Another, editpgp is available on the main UK pgp ftp site: ftp.ox.ac.uk in /pub/crypto/pgp. Look in the utils directory there. There is also something called BAP (Bryce's Auto PGP), I'm not sure exactly where that can be gotten. All of these work by setting them up as your "external editor". Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 754 200 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAgUBMI/U+hu6nIqxqP+5AQGMsgP9ED9RksLWngzLgOYCFCELAWw53RSOOTw6 Ou5A2qiPbGrA+2qJPMoN9SCgEzg8ZgEOA2Vg1LWDa+WxQxksbNfzy0i2q/+2g++a XnxUXWmuq7BGIlW2s0Xz+KU6XsgmDPhqRyZ2SX5cWcaeXXtYV3MuR8R86NFnZHth 8e2dx34zW5I= =EI9Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 05:59:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22753; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:59:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17766; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:49:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17760; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:49:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBMR8-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tismo@unm.edu (Nick Carraway) Subject: querying for newmail Date: 2 Nov 1995 09:46:03 -0700 Message-Id: <47askb$4gb8@indus.unm.edu> I am using Pine for Unix and have two questions: (1) Is there a way to do "elm -z" at the system promt- this would check INBOX for messages and invoke Pine (pine -i) if so. (2) Is there a way to be notified when newmail arrives after login? Before I had 'newmail -i ' in .login to do this. Thanks for any help/pointers. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 06:10:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22947; Fri, 3 Nov 95 06:10:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20601; Fri, 3 Nov 95 06:04:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20595; Fri, 3 Nov 95 06:04:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBMiO-00038EC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 06:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders In-Reply-To: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au's message of 1 Nov 1995 19: 42:21 -0800 Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:37:09 GMT In article gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) writes: Hi! Thanks for your little pointer, but the problem is more the detection of where each header starts. If the header is included in other mail (ie if somebody mailed me a header) then I'd want to consider it as just part of the message. I'm confident that your mail program won't! That is, an unescaped "From " line in the body of a message will cause your mailer to treat it as two messages. That's why many mail transport agents prepend '>' to lines starting with "From ". -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 09:39:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00531; Fri, 3 Nov 95 09:39:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25132; Fri, 3 Nov 95 09:32:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25124; Fri, 3 Nov 95 09:32:35 -0800 Received: from usr6.primenet.com (root@usr6.primenet.com [198.68.32.16]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA16224; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:33:33 GMT Received: from Primenet.primenet.com (ip199.sna.primenet.com [204.212.53.199]) by usr6.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA06262; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:32:32 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:32:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199511031732.KAA06262@usr6.primenet.com> X-Sender: dossdl@primenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David L. Doss" Subject: Unsubscribe the hard way I am so sorry to all you good readers to have to post this way: However 3 days ago I posted my unsubscribe correctly, received message that my request was forwarded to list-owner and waited. Yesterday, I specifically asked listowner to unsubscribe me, with explanation. No response. This now is a very brief request to the group, unfortunately. It is my next to last resort!!!!!!!!!!! UNSUBSCRIBE REPEAT: UNSUBSCRIBE ME ONCE AGAIN: UNSUBSCRIBE ME NOW CAN YOU HEAR ME? REMOVE MY NAME FROM YOUR LIST I hope it will no longer be necessary to shout, or to expand the length or frequency. Thank your for your prompt attention -(;>] >In article > >gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) writes: > > Hi! Thanks for your little pointer, but the problem is more the > detection of where each header starts. If the header is included in > other mail (ie if somebody mailed me a header) then I'd want to consider > it as just part of the message. > >I'm confident that your mail program won't! That is, an unescaped "From >" line in the body of a message will cause your mailer to treat it as >two messages. That's why many mail transport agents prepend '>' to >lines starting with "From ". >-- >Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his > heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and > the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ David L. Doss Anaheim Cal, USA "Freeway Vista" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 10:49:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04029; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:49:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24996; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:44:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24990; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:44:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBR3s-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Trond Skog Subject: How to compile pine on hp-ux Date: 3 Nov 1995 13:02:57 GMT Message-Id: <47d3u1$rvi@nms.telepost.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have downloded pine from ftp.cdrom.com. When I try to build pine, there is no hp-ux option. Can anyone please help me solve this problem. Trond Skog trond@tdps.telepost.no From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 11:46:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07285; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:46:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26796; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:40:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26790; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:40:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04241; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:40:33 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:40:31 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Jun-Seong Park Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How can 8bit characters be typed in "Subject" field? In-Reply-To: <46n9nn$4n4@usenet.hana.nm.kr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 8bit characters are not allowed in message headers without RFC1522-style encoding, which will not be supported in Pine until version 3.92. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 26 Oct 1995, Jun-Seong Park wrote: > Date: 26 Oct 1995 06:27:03 GMT > From: Jun-Seong Park > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: How can 8bit characters be typed in "Subject" field? > > I cannot type 8bit characters in the "Subject" field. From the source > programs, I got to know only 7bit characters can be displyed in header > fields. The related file is composer.c which is located in pine3.91/pine. > Anyone who can help me solve this problem? Thanks for your kind attention. > > Jun-Seong Park > Korea Telecom S/W Research Lab. > e-mail : jsse@inffour.kotel.co.kr > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 12:19:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08705; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:19:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27667; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:13:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27661; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:13:29 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:12 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:12 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:12 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:12 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: querying for newmail To: tismo@unm.edu (Nick Carraway) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 21:12:28 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <47askb$4gb8@indus.unm.edu> from "Nick Carraway" at Nov 2, 95 09:46:03 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 549 Quoting Nick Carraway: > I am using Pine for Unix and have two questions: > (1) Is there a way to do "elm -z" at the system promt- this would > check INBOX for messages and invoke Pine (pine -i) if so. >From the "ELM Reference Guide": "-z This causes Elm not to start if you don't have any mail," This should be equivalent to "size of mailbox is zero". Most shells have a text for this, eg for the zsh this would be: if [[ -s file ]]; then pine; else pine -i; fi I don't see a reason why elm should be used at all to start pine. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 12:23:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08816; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:23:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29916; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:19:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29908; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:18:57 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:18 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:18 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:18 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:18 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders To: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 21:18:42 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Rick Troxel" at Nov 2, 95 06:37:09 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 543 Quoting Rick Troxel: > > If the header is included in other mail (ie if somebody mailed me a header) > > then I'd want to consider it as just part of the message. > I'm confident that your mail program won't! That is, an unescaped "From_" > line in the body of a message will cause your mailer to treat it as two > messages. So - how doee Pine recognize mails within mails? The FAQ says it does not regard the Content-Length header. Will Pine stumble over mails in mails when the MTA does not escape "From_" lines? Sven [too lazy to test] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 13:42:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12228; Fri, 3 Nov 95 13:42:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02116; Fri, 3 Nov 95 13:35:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02110; Fri, 3 Nov 95 13:35:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBTkZ-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 13:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: Alternate Editor? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:09:32 GMT How do I use the alternate editor? I've enabled it in my config, and specified the editor to be /usr/ucb/vi, but when I hit ^_, all it seems to do is a screen refresh, and prints "7 lines inserted" at the bottom. -- Christopher Curtis, Sun SysAdmin - http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/ccurtis Florida Institute of Technology - telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 Melbourne, Florida USA - Member, Team OS/2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 16:26:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20451; Fri, 3 Nov 95 16:26:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05016; Fri, 3 Nov 95 16:20:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05010; Fri, 3 Nov 95 16:20:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBWKz-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 16:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john@iastate.edu (John Hascall) Subject: Re: AFS-aware IMAP daemon? Date: 2 Nov 1995 21:42:05 GMT Message-Id: <47bdvd$sq3@news.iastate.edu> References: <46mbop$nm8@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Trey Harris wrote: }I administer an email system with approximately 26,000 users, of which }several thousand are using IMAP. } ... At this time, we will be migrating our users to AFS. }At this time we anticipate using MIT Kerberos v4 for both AFS and SP }authentication (since both AFS and the SP are compatible with Kerberos v4 }but not with each other's proprietary Kerberos). However, we may end up }using the AFS kaserver for reasons of expediency. I don't think this }changes the answer to my question, though. ... }However, when an IMAP client makes a request for an archived mail folder }(such as the sent or saved messages), the daemon must get this information }from the user's home directory--which resides in AFS. }Now, if we use the Cyrus imapd, a plaintext login (such as Pine, }MailDrop, Siren Mail or Simeon Email use) will cause the imap daemon to }get a Kerberos ticket. } }This is where I get fuzzy, however. I believe that a Kerberos ticket is }necessary but not sufficient to grant a process access to the AFS }filespace. An AFS token is also required for a process to be able to }read and write to an AFS filesystem. Am I correct? Yes, but all you need to turn a ticket into a token is to get a copy of 'aklog' from MIT (at least, this works for us using the MIT Kerberos IV server, I can't speak to it working with AFS's kaserver). John -- John Hascall ``An ill-chosen word is the fool's messenger.'' Moderator, comp.unix.wizards Systems Software Engineer, ISU Comp Center + Ames, IA 50011 + 515/294-9551 My Homepage From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 18:08:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24829; Fri, 3 Nov 95 18:08:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07565; Fri, 3 Nov 95 18:04:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07559; Fri, 3 Nov 95 18:04:23 -0800 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA41406; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 19:59:59 -0600 Received: by Cookie.secapl.com id AA236137 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:05:33 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:05:33 -0600 (CST) From: Carla Golden To: Sven Guckes Cc: Pine Information Subject: HELP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I keep getting this error message. [400 No spce left on device writting logging article file ----throttling] Also, I do not see the newsgroup that i subscribed to. Can you help me with this, thanks a bunch. Carla From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 19:13:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26132; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:13:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10275; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:09:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post4.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10269; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:09:48 -0800 Received: from general3.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #7723) id <01HX7W6USL4W8XQ824@asu.edu>; Fri, 03 Nov 1995 20:09:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from general3.asu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by general3.asu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA07486; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:09:39 -0700 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 20:09:39 -0700 (MST) From: jilmarie@IMAP2.ASU.EDU Subject: Re: could use some more help please:) In-Reply-To: X-Sender: jilmarie@general3.asu.edu To: Sven Guckes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sorry! As you can tell I'm clueless! Okay, I've got to ask one more. What is a browser and how do I get/use one? Remember, I told you I didn't have a clue. Thanks all, Jill jilmarie@imap.asu.edu On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: > Quoting jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu: > > I sent out the message early in the week about windows for pine. > > Well, I'm starting to get used to Pine and really like it. > > However, I still can't figure out how to get on to the web using this system. > Pine is not a web browser. Well, not yet. ;-) > You could, however, request web pages via email requests. > > Here is an example: > > header: To: webmail@curia.ucc.ie > Subject: anytext > > body: go http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ > > I am only reproducing this from a post. > I have never verified it. But I will try it right away. > > Sven > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 19:13:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26150; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:13:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10300; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:10:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10292; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:10:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBYzk-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matteo Mainetti Subject: Untraceable Messages ? Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:29:40 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to change the "from:" part of an outgoing message in such a way that there is no way to recover the real sender ? If that is possible, everybody could sign her outgoing message with my name and address and send it to whomever ?! Thanks in advance, \\|||// matteo @ @ | mainetti \_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 20:03:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26936; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:03:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09295; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:01:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09289; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:01:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBZid-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vpilarin@unix.gsusa.org (Vasilios L. Pilarinos) Subject: Re: Rejecting incoming e-mail Date: 3 Nov 1995 16:18:23 -0500 Message-Id: References: <46scpa$7i0@crl13.crl.com> In article , guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) wrote: >Quoting Scott Matteson: >> Does anyone know how to set Pine to reject all incoming mail messages? > >Pine does not receive the mail. It only looks at folders which are filled >up by the programs which receives the email. >=> Pine does not have such a setting. > >Sven The best thing to do is make a .forward file which directs procmail to delete all the messages. Either that, or go in /var/spool/mail and make a symbolic link for to /dev/null. :-) -Me -- _ _ _ __ __ __| |_ __ _| |_(_)__ | Vasilios L. Pilarinos [vpilarin@gsusa.org] \ \/ /_(_-< _/ _` | _| / _| | Network Administrator : GSUSA.ORG & ML.ORG /_/\_(_)__/\__\__,_|\__|_\__| | http://www.gsusa.org/~vpilarin/ - #hellas! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 20:25:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27476; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:25:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11329; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:21:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11323; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:21:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBa3i-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cravenja@cleo.bc.edu Subject: Compiling Pine in Windows Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 19:01:11 GMT Message-Id: <47dop9$nhg@delphi.bc.edu> Does anyone out there know how to compile Pine 3.91 in Windows using Borland C++ 4.5? If so, how? I would greatly appreciate any help. John Craven cravenja@cleo.bc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 20:39:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27783; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:39:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09823; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:36:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09817; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:36:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBaIY-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ludwik@dorsai.dorsai.org (Ludwik) Subject: How do I download e-mail to my hard disk? Help. Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 00:57:15 GMT I need to download some clipart from my pine news. I don't know how to do it. Can someone help me? Thanks. Lu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 21:03:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28224; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:03:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11912; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:01:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11906; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:01:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBaiN-00038HC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marty Brenneis Subject: Multiple PC-Pine users on 1 PC Date: 3 Nov 1995 15:10:31 GMT Message-Id: <47dbd7$285@miwok.nbn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I configure PC-Pine to allow for several people receiving mail on the same PC? I'd like to have several Pine icons that are for the different users and IMAP servers. Suggestions? Marty Brenneis Industrial Magician droid@well.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 21:36:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28744; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:36:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10611; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:31:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10605; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:31:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBb7N-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie) Subject: Re: PGP & Pine Date: 26 Oct 1995 14:10:53 GMT Message-Id: <46o4td$n59@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <46mka4$kv7@tbone.biol.sc.edu> Dean Pentcheff (dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu) wrote: [ ... ] : : To get a copy of mkpgp, send a blank email message to: : : slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu : : with: : : Subject: mkpgp : : It is written in csh, though (a Unix shell language), so it will : definitely not run on a PC for PC-Pine. : Any brave soul willing to port it to PC-Perl? :-) Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Gopher Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 21:38:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28810; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:38:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12396; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:36:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12390; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:36:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBbDc-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Pine for VMS Message-Id: <17443D694S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <46hjjv$4mn@nntp.dlsu.edu.ph> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 15:15:30 GMT In article <46hjjv$4mn@nntp.dlsu.edu.ph> cscspm@dlsu.edu.ph (Sammy Mallare) writes: >i'm looking for Pine for VMS.. Feel free to consult my own notes on installing Yehavi's port of PINE for VMS at my lab: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html >...the one that doesn't have a serious >bug. Which version was that? >any kind soul out there can help me? please specify the version >number. thanks! I would if you would. Oh well, alright, Yehavi's designation is 3.91 beta 5. | HTML: "A simple scaleable document format...for information exchange | on virtually any platform" (W3 Consortium Prospectus). --- Alan Flavell, H.E.P Group, Glasgow University, Scotland In all postings, I speak solely for myself. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 00:56:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02620; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:56:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13255; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:46:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13249; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:46:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBeFI-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: saf@hiwa61.com (steve) Subject: Problem Sending Mail Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 15:17:19 GMT Message-Id: <47dbl6$4mo@news.halcyon.com> I am using PINE 3.91 on my laptop. When at work the laptop is on a LAN. While all other LAN services seem to work OK, I am not able to send mail. I can receive mail just fine, but when I try to send (or forward, or reply...) I get the following error message: "Can't send message without an open remote folder." Does anyone have any ideas on this? I can't figure it out. Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 00:58:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02695; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:58:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15014; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:51:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15008; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:51:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBeH5-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: bug Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:50:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: On 1 Nov 1995, Jeffrey Herrera wrote: > Would someone please help me. There is a bug in my system and no one=20 > that I've asked knows how to help. Whenever I'm in pine, =FD=ADcommands= =20 > occur on their own and letters pop up on the screen randomly. [...] I don't know that this is the case, of course, but at least consider=20 the possibility of a keyboard or cabling glitch that is sending spurious=20 characters to the software. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 01:09:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03103; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:09:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13587; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:06:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13581; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:06:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBeUI-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ranjit Deshpande Subject: Saving Remote Folders Date: 3 Nov 1995 16:56:15 GMT Message-Id: <47dhjf$1r@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I try to save messages from a remote folder (VAX/VMS) to a Unix machine running System V using Pine 3.91, some of the messages go through fine. The other messages do not go through and I get an error - "File shrank from (...) to (...)" Where the first (...) indicates the original message size and the next one indicates the new file size. The message is not saved on the Unix machine. Can somebody help me please.. Ranjit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 01:32:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03972; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:32:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13861; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:28:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mizar.usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13855; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:28:11 -0800 Received: (kozinski@localhost) by mizar.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) id BAA23503; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 01:28:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 01:28:10 -0800 (PST) From: The Easy Rider To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Spellchecker Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have started using the alternative spellchecker i-spell instead of the one provided by pico. I like it better but it has one problem: It checks not only the text I have written, but also forwarded text which is marked by >. Pine's normal spellchecker doesn't do this. Is there any way to tell i-spell not to check lines marked with a > ? Thanx. Ciao. AK From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 03:14:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05431; Sat, 4 Nov 95 03:14:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16755; Sat, 4 Nov 95 03:12:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16749; Sat, 4 Nov 95 03:11:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBgST-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 03:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd) Subject: Re: How to compile pine on hp-ux Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:19:34 GMT References: <47d3u1$rvi@nms.telepost.no> In article <47d3u1$rvi@nms.telepost.no>, Trond Skog writes: > I have downloded pine from ftp.cdrom.com. When I try to build pine, there is no > hp-ux option. You need the HP ANSI C compiler and then pick up this from one of the official sites listed in my footer: /hpux/Networking/Mail/pine-3.91/pine-3.91-ss-9.01.tar.gz (2 MB) Full instructions are in the HPUX.Install document in that package (a shame that SO MANY mods had to be made and not all just for HP-UX...). HP-UX Archive Librarian, E-mail queries: hpux@csc.liv.ac.uk Computer Science Dept., Official anonymous FTP sites (get /README first): Liverpool University, United Kingdom: hpux.csc.liv.ac.uk United Kingdom. Germany: hpux.ask.uni-karlsruhe.de United States: hpux.cae.wisc.edu Not got xbrowser 3.0 yet ? France: hpux.cict.fr Netherlands: hpux.ced.tudelft.nl You'll find it in Canada: hpux.ee.ualberta.ca /hpux/X11/Networking Italy: hpux.dsi.unimi.it Official World Wide Web sites are also available from the above sites (http://site/), except for: Netherlands: http://hpux.ced.tudelft.nl/ARCHIVE/archive_intro.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 04:05:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06940; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:05:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15803; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:02:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15797; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:02:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBhEe-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 03:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Steven C. King" Subject: Sort Algorithm Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:19:19 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering what algorithm Pine 3.91 uses when it sorts things like the address book, news posts, etc. It seems really slow here, though it could be caused by the Telnet connection. Does it use something like Bubble Sort? I wondered if it would speed things up if Pine used the Quick Sort algorithm instead. Any thoughts? {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { stevekng@freenet.fsu.edu Instrument: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { cujo@tweety.csv.eku.edu Last words: Gravity. Why fight it? } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 04:33:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07362; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:33:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17926; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:27:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from spinach.mscc.huji.ac.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17920; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:27:15 -0800 Received: by spinach.mscc.huji.ac.il (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32085; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:21:33 +0200 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:21:33 +0200 (WET) From: jonathan levy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID XI7QJ): (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2076134857-2002600785-815414909=:39924" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2076134857-2002600785-815414909=:39924 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 18:08:29 +0200 (WET) From: jonathan levy To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID XI7QJ): This is not to talk about a bug.... only to figure out how to save a file onto my computer. I am working through a modem. I am accessing the internet using the Hebrew University Spinach system here in Jerusalem. I have files that I would like to download onto my coputer. Supposedly you can do it through Pine. How does this work? If pine cannot do it, can you tell me how! Thanks, Jon Levy ---2076134857-2002600785-815414909=:39924 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = osjonlev, full = jonathan levy home = /studos/oss/year/osjonlev home_dir= /studos/oss/year/osjonlev hostname= spinach.mscc.huji.ac.il localdom= mscc.huji.ac.il userdom= NULL maildom= spinach.mscc.huji.ac.il cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /usr/spool/mail/osjonlev msgmap: tot=138, cur=138, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/pts/0, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : jonathan levy user-id : osjonlev nntp-server : shum.huji.ac.il inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : *{shum.huji.ac.il/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : by-from fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : lpr -Pibmpr standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.11 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : yes ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/studos/oss/year/osjonlev/.pinerc) ======= folder-collections : mail/[] saved-msg-name-rule : by-from last-time-prune-ques : 95.11 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= nntp-server : shum.huji.ac.il inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : lpr -Pibmpr standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : yes ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---2076134857-2002600785-815414909=:39924-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 04:49:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07730; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:49:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18160; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:47:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18153; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:47:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBhzi-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pp000738@interramp.com Date: 4 Nov 1995 06:39:32 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel <153520.pp000738@ipiws-001.interramp.com> Control: cancel <153520.pp000738@ipiws-001.interramp.com> Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 05:46:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08803; Sat, 4 Nov 95 05:46:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17289; Sat, 4 Nov 95 05:42:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17283; Sat, 4 Nov 95 05:42:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBiml-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 05:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Steven C. King" Subject: Shelling from Pine Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:46:06 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In Pine 3.91, is there a way to shell to the operating system on AIX? There doesn't seem to be a command for this. If there isn't, will one be added in the future release? {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { stevekng@freenet.fsu.edu Instrument: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { cujo@tweety.csv.eku.edu Last words: Gravity. Why fight it? } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 07:49:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10733; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:49:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18749; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:44:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18743; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:44:33 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tBjpY-000s9IC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:44 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:44 MEZ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:43:46 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Ludwik Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I download e-mail to my hard disk? Help. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As the menubar in the lower lines says: S for SAVE (You can also try E for EXPORT, then the headers won't be saved). Ciao, Michael On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Ludwik wrote: > I need to download some clipart from my pine news. > I don't know how to do it. > Can someone help me? > Thanks. > > Lu > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE File names are infinite in length where infinity is set to 255 characters. (Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System") From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 07:57:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10857; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:57:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20407; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:52:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20401; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:52:42 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10799; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:52:39 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 07:52:39 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: steve Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem Sending Mail In-Reply-To: <47dbl6$4mo@news.halcyon.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Steve, I'm guessing that you are actually using PC-Pine... That message occurs if Pine doesn't think you have an authenticated IMAP connection open. The requirement to have an open IMAP folder before sending is to allow PC-Pine to put a traceable x-sender line into outgoing messages to mitigate the threat of forged messages. -teg On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, steve wrote: > I am using PINE 3.91 on my laptop. When at work the laptop is on a > LAN. While all other LAN services seem to work OK, I am not able to > send mail. I can receive mail just fine, but when I try to send (or > forward, or reply...) I get the following error message: > > "Can't send message without an open remote folder." > > Does anyone have any ideas on this? I can't figure it out. > > Steve > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 09:41:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12653; Sat, 4 Nov 95 09:41:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21715; Sat, 4 Nov 95 09:27:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21709; Sat, 4 Nov 95 09:27:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBmLX-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 09:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrej Borsenkow Subject: Q: Setting MIME Content-Type header in PINE? Date: 3 Nov 1995 07:36:44 GMT Message-Id: <47cgqc$ani@nervous.pdb.sni.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks! Ist it possible to set MIME headers in Pine? What I really need, is Content-Type. I have to write in English, German and Russian and clearly _one_ character set just doesn't exist for all. Currently I am using ELM but it is not possible there (at least in 2.4 and next version comes "soon" :-) So I am looking for software which allows it. Thanks in advance P.S please CC to me if posting answer ------------------------------------------------------ Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 11:06:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13878; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:06:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21433; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:03:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21427; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:03:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBnp1-00038EC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Saving messages to a floppy Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 23:39:36 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Phil Tompkins wrote: > > > Sorry, left out a step. You have to get out of Pine and go to the shell > > to download or use the cat command. > > Phil > > You seem to be referring to using Pine on Unix or some sort of > Unix-like system. In that case, Ctrl-Z should get you out to the shell. > Use 'fg' (foreground) to resume Pine. > Ah! I didn't know about that one. And it seems you have to go into setup - configure and enable Pine suspension first. Thanks, I will add that to my script. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 11:50:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14810; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:50:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23621; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:48:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23615; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:48:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBoXK-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu Subject: AFS Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:21:30 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello everyone, Me again! I promise this will be my last post for at least a few days;) Can anyone tell me what the AFS folder in pine is used for? I think I've got the others figured out but still don't know what I do with that one. Thanks, Jill jilmarie@imap.asu.edu p.s. I think I just found a browser. I hit control T while in attchmnt and got into something that had browser in the title. Sound familiar to anyone? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 14:08:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17668; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:08:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25463; Sat, 4 Nov 95 13:59:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25457; Sat, 4 Nov 95 13:59:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBqaT-00038EC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 13:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Silencing multiple recipients Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:22:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: <46en6c$jfs@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <46en6c$jfs@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> On 23 Oct 1995, Jack Zupan wrote: | I have a short letter I want to send to about 20 people, but don't want | all 20 names to show on each one. | How can I set it up that each recipient gets it with only his/her name in | the "To:" field? The point is I don't want any of them to know who else | is getting it. You need to use the Bcc: ("blind carbon copy") header field. Put the cursor in the headers and press Ctrl-L to get "rich headers." Then put the addresses of all your recipients in Bcc: (you can use an alias list if you do this very often). Note that you need to put _something_ in the To: field. The simplest thing is just to send the message To: yourself and Bcc: to everybody you really want it to go to. If you do not have Bcc: when you display rich headers, go into Setup/Config and add it. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 14:22:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17935; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:22:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24224; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:19:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24218; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:19:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBqs5-00038EC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clouds@mik.uky.edu (aaron o neil hall) Subject: directory Date: 25 Oct 95 17:28:59 GMT Message-Id: t directory are the news groups for pine set up in? I would like to manually go in and take a bunch of them out becuase it would take to long to go through and delete them one by one. Please e-mail me privately.. Thanks in advance, Aaron O. Hall From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 14:36:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18447; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:36:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25911; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:34:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25905; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:34:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBr62-00038EC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Curtis Ockerman Subject: Re: Pine and MMDF Date: 24 Oct 1995 23:02:16 GMT Message-Id: <46jr9o$ht8@xanadu.simplot.COM> References: <46c3hf$6ge@news.cis.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the same question as Frederick. Does PINE work with MMDF and I'll go a bit further and ask does PINE work under SCO UNIX setup with mmdf?????? Thanks Curtis J. Ockerman (ockerman@simplot.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 14:37:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18482; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:37:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24433; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:34:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24427; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:34:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBr62-00038HC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Curtis Ockerman Subject: Re: Where can I find Pine (for UNIX) ? Date: 24 Oct 1995 23:04:18 GMT Message-Id: <46jrdi$ht8@xanadu.simplot.COM> References: <46gjm4$64j@gnu.mat.uc.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ftp.cac.washington.edu Good Luck, Curtis J.Ockerman (ockerman@simplot.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 16:49:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20879; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:49:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27865; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:44:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27859; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:44:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBt9a-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Duncan Hill Subject: Transfer: Permission Denied Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 20:33:32 +1130 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The subject says it all. I installed Linux 1.2.12 on my fathers laptop with no problem. He now has internet access, and is trying to post to newsgroups from pine. At the moment, he get error 441 or 480 ( He's not in at the mo, so I can't check ) . This error number is associated with the subject of this post. The same error occurs when using tin or netscape. My quaestion is : Is this a pine error? Or is it an error with the provider? Please send all replies to either : stobyn@caribnet.net dhill@envirolink.org or duncan@caribsurf.com Many thanks. Duncan Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 18:36:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22920; Sat, 4 Nov 95 18:36:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27864; Sat, 4 Nov 95 18:34:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27858; Sat, 4 Nov 95 18:34:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBut6-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 18:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: folder transfer question Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:43:40 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 27 Oct 1995, E. Karl Isbrecht wrote: > This is not a bug query but I have a question on how > to save all the files in any particular pine folder > onto a floppy; > is this do-able by folder or must each file be > moved into another area separately, assembled into a folder > there and >then< dumped on a floppy ? It is certainly doable. I do it frequently. You didn't say what operating system you are running Pine under (Unix, MS-DOS, whatever), so details may differ. In Unix Pine, each folder is simply a flat ASCII file with path $HOME/mail/ (at least the way it's set up for me). I just download a folder file to my PC the way I would download any other ASCII file. Just _how_ depends on your particular software setup. There may not be a single flat answer on just what to do. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 19:36:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24060; Sat, 4 Nov 95 19:36:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00529; Sat, 4 Nov 95 19:34:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00523; Sat, 4 Nov 95 19:34:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBvpa-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 19:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: moritz@math.uni-duesseldorf.de (Moritz D. Klingholz) Subject: Re: Getting Mail headers without mail prog??? Date: 4 Nov 1995 00:06:10 GMT Message-Id: <47eapi$bna@selene.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> References: <45bj41$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : On 17 Oct 1995, Danny van der Rijn wrote: : | In article <45bj41$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> dlegate@rsa.csuhayward.edu (Dan LeGate) writes: : | : | >So my question is: does anyone know of any : | >SMALL utilities out there that will list just your mail headers (besides : | >mail and mailx)? Thanks for any help or information you can provide. : | : | /usr/ucb/from : This is fine provided all of your incoming mail is in your INBOX : (i.e., still in the mail spool). However, I, like _many_ people, use a : utility such as procmail (or filter) to pre-sort mail into various : folders before I ever invoke my mail reader (Pine, in my case). I have : been wanting a utility (Perl OK) that would list the headers of mail not : only remaining in the INBOX but also in pre-sorted folders. It's just five awk-commands, see at the end :-) NOTES - This is too slow for big files. A C version would do better. - Your awk will need "toupper()". This is ok e.g. with AIX and Linux, but not e.g. with IRIX 4 or SunOS 5. - Have an eye on the /var/spool/mail path. - You will have to write the man page yourself ... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - #!/bin/sh # @(#) from 0.1 by moritz@math.uni-duesseldorf.de, 1995.11.03 Usage () { cat </dev/null | \ awk ' BEGIN {S="^" toupper(S)} !B && $1=="From" {H=1; sub(/^From [^ ]* /, " "); D=$0} H && $1=="From:" && toupper($2)~S {print $0 D} NF>0 {B=1} NF==0 {B=0; H=0} ' S="${Sender}" 2>/dev/null From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 20:22:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24961; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:22:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29647; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:19:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29641; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:19:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBwVX-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: philmac@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Phillip McMillan) Subject: UUencoded attachment Date: 3 Nov 1995 20:52:58 GMT Message-Id: <47dvfa$kfv@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu> Please help, I seem to have a bit of a problem, a co-worker of mine sent me mail with an WordPerfect attachment from the office to my school account. Work uses MS Office 4.0 e-mail and school uses Pine 3.81 (or something like that) Somewhere in the process, the attachment was UUencoded. However, for me to be able to use it, I'm home for the weekend with no chance to get to the office, I need to decode it. Is this possible? If so what's the process? I'd appreciate any help I get, I'm on deadline for next week. If you've got any suggestions send 'em to met at philmac@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Thanks, Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 20:27:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25165; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:27:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01251; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:24:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01245; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:24:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBwZF-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 19:30:56 GMT cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- Christopher Curtis, Sun SysAdmin - http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/ccurtis Florida Institute of Technology - telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 Melbourne, Florida USA - Member, Team OS/2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 21:39:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26630; Sat, 4 Nov 95 21:39:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02170; Sat, 4 Nov 95 21:36:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02164; Sat, 4 Nov 95 21:36:15 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13997; Sat, 4 Nov 95 21:36:14 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:30:05 -0500 (EST) From: Solis James X-Sender: sjames@mail To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 339 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 21:36:05 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: I suddenly find that the PRYNT command allows me to print less than a page of output. What might I have done to limit the output on my printer. In order to get around the difficulty I EXPORT, download and print the document with my word processor which is a round-about nuisance. Many thanks! Sol James sjames@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 23:32:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28603; Sat, 4 Nov 95 23:32:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02469; Sat, 4 Nov 95 23:30:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02463; Sat, 4 Nov 95 23:30:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBzSa-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 23:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jana@pogonip.scs.unr.edu (Jana Dunn) Subject: email-only accounts via imap Date: 4 Nov 1995 21:31:20 GMT Message-Id: <47gm38$rq3@silver.scs.unr.edu> We are in the process of setting up a dedicated host to receive and spool incoming mail. The proposed host currently runs SunOS 4.1.3; we'll be upgrading to Solaris 2.4 in the relatively near future. Imapd (from Univ. of of Washington) is installed on this mailhost system. Most of our users will log in to a group of UNIX hosts and read their mail with pine, with their inbox being on the remote mailhost. Since the users have already logged in and given their passwords once, we'll like to bypass the imap login/password authentication for these users. Users using imap clients from other hosts should still be subject to the regular authentication process. The imap documentation says the following: If you want to enable the rimap capability, which allows users with a suitable client and .rhosts file on the server to access IMAP services without transmitting her password in the clear over the network, you need to have /etc/rimapd as a link to the real copy of imapd. Assuming you have imapd installed on /usr/local/etc as above: % ln -s /usr/local/etc/imapd /etc/rimapd Technical note: rimap works by having the client routine tcp_aopen() invoke `rsh _host_ exec /etc/rimapd' in an child process, and then returning pipes to that process' standard I/O instead of a TCP socket. You can set up `e-mail only accounts' by making the shell be something which accepts only that string and not ordinary Unix shell commands. Perhaps it's trivial, but has someone already concocted a version of the "something which accepts only that string" so that I don't have to re-invent the wheel? I'd also welcome advice from those who have already set up mailhosts along similar lines. Have you had problems or discovered difficulties that I should be aware of? Thanks. Jana Dunn Univ. of Nev. jana@scs.unr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 00:43:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29717; Sun, 5 Nov 95 00:43:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05101; Sun, 5 Nov 95 00:40:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05095; Sun, 5 Nov 95 00:40:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC0bV-00038BC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 00:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdrone@isbe.state.il.us (Mark Drone) Subject: printing from pine Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 21:38:19 -0500 Message-Id: I would like to find out how to print to my Stylewriter from PINE. I've run the setup and selected the local print option, but can't get it to work. Thanks mdrone@isbe.state.il.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 02:12:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01759; Sun, 5 Nov 95 02:12:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05004; Sun, 5 Nov 95 02:10:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04998; Sun, 5 Nov 95 02:10:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC1xg-00038BC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 02:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Bryan J. Vekovius" Subject: Forwarding Mail Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:57:12 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone here know how to forward all mail to another mail server? I have a separate account and it has become difficult to keep checking all of my mail accounts. Thanks bryan@softdisk.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan J. Vekovius bryan.vekovius@utmb.edu University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 03:13:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06973; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:13:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07319; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:10:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07313; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:10:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC2y0-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: romani@email.unc.edu (David Romani) Subject: Re: PC-PINE Time Zone Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 09:04:31 -0500 Message-Id: References: Edward, >From the Pine Technical notes, p. 18 (a very useful resource) Set an environment variable TZ in your autoexec.bat TZ=ZZZ[+H]H[:MM:SS:TTT] where ZZZ is your standard time zone, e.g., EST + (or -) H[:MM:SS] its offset from GMT TTT is your summer or daylight savings time zone, e.g., EDT The default values for a DOS/Windows system are PST-8PDT (US Pacific Time and the location of Microsoft's headquarters. The correct setting for someone in the US eastern time zone would be SET TZ=EST-5EDT In article , Edward H Fenster wrote: > Hello. > > My copy of PC-PINE is properly putting Eastern Standard Time on my > outgoing messages; however, it is marking them Pacific Standard Time. > For instace, if I mail a message 3 p.m. EST (-0500), it is marked 3 p.m. > PST (-0800). > > This happens in both Windows 3.11, as well as Windows/NT, which is > properly set for EST (-0500). Mail I compose on my computer using > different software (NUPOP) is properly stamped. > > Does anybody know how to fix the time zone marking on my outbound mail, > or for that matter where PC-PINE gets the current time zone from? > > Thanks Much! > - Edward -- David Romani Library Systems Office Academic Affairs Library University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill romani@email.unc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 03:29:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07521; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:29:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06275; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:25:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06269; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:25:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC38P-00038BC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: colorado@crl.com (Scott Matteson) Subject: Re: International students Date: 4 Nov 1995 13:58:53 -0800 Message-Id: <47gnmt$3s@crl12.crl.com> References: bartosz m marcinkowski (bartas@unm.edu) wrote: : People who come from foreign countries consider America as a : country of freedom and equality. However, this equality is prescribed : only to the citizens of America. Why do international students have to : pay 3 times bigger tuition then americans? I agree with your concerns, but what does this have to do with using the Pine e-mail system? Any of the political newsgroups would probably be glad to discuss the issue. -- Scott Matteson |"Luck changes. It always does." colorado@crl.com | - Quentin Tarantino Boston, MA | "Destiny Turns on the Radio." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 05:25:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10676; Sun, 5 Nov 95 05:25:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09188; Sun, 5 Nov 95 05:20:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09182; Sun, 5 Nov 95 05:20:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC4w8-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 05:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Re: could use some more help please:) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 10:45:07 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Nov 1995 jilmarie@IMAP2.ASU.EDU wrote: > Sorry! As you can tell I'm clueless! > Okay, I've got to ask one more. What is a browser and how do I get/use > one? Remember, I told you I didn't have a clue. > Thanks all, > Jill > jilmarie@imap.asu.edu Jill, I'm clueless about most things but slightly less so about the Internet. :-) A browser can be many things. Mosaic, NetScape, Lynx are different browsers for the World Wide Web. Pine is a browser (and editor) for email and newsgroups (USENET); and, NN & TIN are browsers only for newsgroups. If your using Pine from an account on a host (remote) system, as I assume, then you may wish to ask your sysop about the availability of Lynx. Lynx is widely available on host systems to browse the WWW. It is a text only Web browser. The other true Web browsers, ala Mosaic, need access to your workstations video and sound capabilities which require a more sophisticated link to your host. These links are called PPP or SLIP. These links are becoming much more common as Internet Service Providers (ISPs) pop up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Altofirma Web Works Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ rosully@aww.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 08:00:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12364; Sun, 5 Nov 95 08:00:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09711; Sun, 5 Nov 95 07:56:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09705; Sun, 5 Nov 95 07:56:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC7OE-00038BC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 07:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Using Hayes SCOPE scripts with Pine Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:44:24 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone using Hayes SCOPE scripts with Pine ? I have written a few to automate sorting the mail and downloading to disk - not elegant, but they work - and I would be interested in sharing notes. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 08:35:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12763; Sun, 5 Nov 95 08:35:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11230; Sun, 5 Nov 95 08:21:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11224; Sun, 5 Nov 95 08:21:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC7oj-00038BC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 08:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chmwilso@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Chris Wilson) Subject: How to change folder display screen in pine? Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 18:46:26 -0600 Message-Id: I'm trying to fix up pine for a friend. She's on a mailing list where every message is distributed in the following form: Sender: NAME OF MAILING LIST From: ORIGINAL AUTHOR OF MESSAGE Now, pine displays that each message is from NAME OF MAILING LIST (sender) rather than the real author (from field). I've looked in the pine faq, but I haven't seen anything like this. Elm doesn't have this problem, but how do get it right in pine? Chris -- Chris Wilson |Still time to start a new life in the palm trees-JB chmwilso@indiana.edu|--------------------------------------------------- CoB, O |I'd like to go where the pace of life's slow-JB If you're bored enough to read this, you're bored enough to visit my home page at http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~chmwilso/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 10:16:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14481; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:16:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11470; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:11:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11464; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:11:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC9Vn-00038HC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark A. Wille" Subject: Re: Signature Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 21:06:16 -0500 Message-Id: References: <46tuf4$d4t@cnct.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <46tuf4$d4t@cnct.com> Thank you for your help, but someone showed me how to do this on IRC. I thank all of you who have responded to my post through mail also. See my signature now? :) Mark A. Wille mwille@mcs.com Christian Information Systems Coordinator -------------------------------------------------------------------- |To receive information on Christian Information Systems, send mail| |to mwille@mcs.com with INFO-CIS as the subject, and nothing in the| |body of the message. | -------------------------------------------------------------------- On 28 Oct 1995, Cassady Kent wrote: > Mark A. Wille (mwille@mcs.net) wrote: > : I have a question. In pine, how can you create a signature? Thank you > : very much. > > Put whatever you want in a file named .signature (the initial dot is > required) in your home directory. That works 99% of the time. If it > doesn't, check your setup configuration menu within pine. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 10:31:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14761; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:31:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12884; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:26:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12878; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:26:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC9iw-00038DC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark A. Wille" Subject: Question Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 23:13:10 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does one upload a file to his/her directory, where then he/she can attach it? Thank you very much for your help. Mark A. Wille mwille@mcs.net Christian Information Systems Coordinator -------------------------------------------------------------------- |To receive information on Christian Information Systems, send mail| |to mwille@mcs.net with INFO-CIS as the subject, and nothing in the| |body of the message. | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 11:15:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15328; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:15:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12178; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:06:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12172; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:06:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCAMn-00038HC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Kugler Subject: Re: Where can I find Pine (for UNIX) ? Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 02:58:16 -0700 Message-Id: <309C8AB8.2445@aspin.asu.edu> References: <46gjm4$64j@gnu.mat.uc.pt> <46hvmm$mbv@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit K.P. Chow wrote: > > eq3jpf@eq10.eq.uc.pt (Joao Ramos Ferreira) wrote: > >CAn someone tell where can i find PINE for UNIX ? > > > > Thanks > > > I don't know if this is an official site for the newest pine, but > you can try ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine > > Regards, > Ka-po CHOW > -- > Motorola Semiconductors Hong Kong Ltd. > E-mail: kpchow@aap1aix.sps.mot.com, kp2chow@csd.hku.hk Is there a port for SGI Irix 5.x? The build file includes the following directions: See the document doc/pine-ports for a list of other platforms that Pine has been ported to and for details about these and other ports. but there is no such file in the .tar.gz. I opened it a second time in case I had somehow rmoved it, to no avail. Any help would be appreciated, Hans -- ++++++++++++=================================++++++++++++ | Systems Programmer -- ASPIN | | LuftHans@aspin.asu.edu | | http://aspin.asu.edu/~lufthans | | Keine Ahnung, was ich dir sagen soll, | | keine Ahnung und keinen Plan. -- die Toten Hosen | ============+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++============ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 12:07:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16455; Sun, 5 Nov 95 12:07:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14116; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:56:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14110; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:56:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCB6g-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders Date: 5 Nov 1995 04:57:48 GMT Message-Id: <47hg8c$dp5@styx.uwa.edu.au> References: <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> Rick Troxel (rick@helix.nih.gov) wrote: : A standard Berkeley style folder delineates messages by a "From " line : following a blank line. Reading from the pine Tech Notes: This seems a bit simplistic when you consider that the message might well contain a line starting with the word "From ". From some of the information I've received following this thread I've come across another way of doing it: Whenever you come across a line starting with "From " you then say "This might be a new header". You look at the following lines which (if it's a header) must all start with "Received from: ", "X-Status: " or a large number of other field names, unless they are part of a "To: " or "Cc: " field, in which case they probably start with a few spaces. Then when you get a blank line (end of header) you count the number of fields you came across. If this number is greater than a certain limit, you say "right I've found a header". I guess about 9 or so fields would be a good sign of a header. Any comments on this algorithm? It will still think that a header within a message is a new header :( Graham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 13:42:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18433; Sun, 5 Nov 95 13:42:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14354; Sun, 5 Nov 95 13:36:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14348; Sun, 5 Nov 95 13:36:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCCir-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 13:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bartosz m marcinkowski Subject: International students Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:34:47 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII People who come from foreign countries consider America as a country of freedom and equality. However, this equality is prescribed only to the citizens of America. Why do international students have to pay 3 times bigger tuition then americans? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 15:18:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20380; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:18:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17147; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:07:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17141; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:07:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCE7n-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Getting Mail headers without mail prog??? Date: 5 Nov 95 22:41:20 GMT Message-Id: References: <45bj41$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> <46g81r$c2k@news.dataphone.se> <47duld$7ev@jabba.ess.harris.com> wdavis@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Bill Davis) writes: >|>> And even this does not skip "included non-quoted mails". >If you are on a system with egrep, then perhaps you can use sed as well. >You could include the sed command '/^$/,$d' to keep just the header >based on RFC 822 paragraph 3.1 "The body is ... It is separated from >the headers by a null line (i.e., a line with nothing preceding the CRLF)." >There are complications with trying to get all this on an alias line, but >the alias could just call a script or it could be a script called "from". ''And even this does not skip "included non-quoted mails".'' Anyone have a script which takes care of "included" mails? Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 15:32:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20659; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:32:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16047; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:22:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16041; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:22:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCEJY-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjw@best.com (Gregory Woodhouse) Subject: Re: How do u Personalize your name on pine? Date: 5 Nov 1995 15:01:07 GMT Message-Id: <47ijjj$pa8@shellx.best.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article , V094J3A3@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu says... > >I was wondering how u personalize your name on pine?? >Please give me a step by step way of doing it. >Thanks, >Jeff Walter Set the options "personal name" and "user domain" (if appropriate). --- Gregory Woodhouse gjw@best.com home page: http://www.best.com/~gjw/ resource page: http://www.best.com/~gjw/resource/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 16:09:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21627; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:09:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17888; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:57:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17882; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:57:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCEuG-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Jpico with Unix Pine Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 18:24:05 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone had any experience with using Jpico (a configured version of the joe editor) as an alternate editor with Unix Pine? I just set it up and have gotten a few anomalous results (as well as some screen delay). Maybe I haven't played with it long enough. Email me if you don't think it would be of general interest for comp.mail.pine. (Jpico is an editor that works a lot like Pico but has many additional features.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 16:29:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22024; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:29:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16927; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:27:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16921; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:27:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCFOo-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ofross@larry.cc.emory.edu (Oliver Fross) Subject: Re: Forwarding Mail Date: 5 Nov 1995 10:20:36 -0500 Message-Id: <47iko4$icn@larry.cc.emory.edu> References: Bryan J. Vekovius (bvekoviu@marlin.utmb.edu) wrote: : Does anyone here know how to forward all mail to another mail server? : I have a separate account and it has become difficult to keep checking : all of my mail accounts. Edit a file in your home directory called ".forward" with the content in the format of "id@host.domain". I do it with my three accounts, so I only have to log in to one host to check my mail. This function is not pine-specific, so you could use it with any sort of mailreader that you wanted. Pine does, however indicate that it was sent to the alternate address, and not to the current server in the to: line. eg: ".forward" on the server win95.microsoft.com bill_gates@redmond.microsoft.com If I send mail to "bill_gates@win95.microsoft.com" it wil get forwarded to "bill_gates@redmond.microsoft.com", so he only has to check his mail in one place, but he'll know that you sent him mail at win95, not redmond. good luck. --oliver From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:11:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24142; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:11:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19737; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:07:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19731; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:07:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCGuA-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wdavis@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Bill Davis) Subject: Re: Getting Mail headers without mail prog??? Date: 3 Nov 1995 20:39:09 GMT Message-Id: <47duld$7ev@jabba.ess.harris.com> References: <45bj41$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> <46g81r$c2k@news.dataphone.se> Anders Waller writes: |> |>On 23 Oct 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: |> |>> Well, this looks at *all* lines which contain "From". |>> It should be "^From: ", though. |>> And even this does not skip "included non-quoted mails". |> |>Correct...Been playing some with egrep, seems the following works, havent |>tested it much yet though...Im sure theres some case whereas it doesnt |>work. |> |>alias from 'more $MAILPATH | egrep "^From: | ^From " If you are on a system with egrep, then perhaps you can use sed as well. You could include the sed command '/^$/,$d' to keep just the header based on RFC 822 paragraph 3.1 "The body is ... It is separated from the headers by a null line (i.e., a line with nothing preceding the CRLF)." There are complications with trying to get all this on an alias line, but the alias could just call a script or it could be a script called "from". Bill Davis wdavis@dw3f.ess.harris.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:19:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24287; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:19:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18494; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:17:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18488; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:17:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCH67-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrej Borsenkow Subject: Q: how to convert ELM aliases to PINE Date: 4 Nov 1995 11:31:13 GMT Message-Id: <47fiu1$4lq@nervous.pdb.sni.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all! I have just installed PINE 3.91 to test it. Seems to be great thing. But two questions: 1. is it possible to import ELM aliases into PINE? 2. is it possible to share PINE address book between Unix and PC? (I mean for the same user) Thanks for help! P.S. Please Cc to me if posting answer. ------------------------------------------------------ Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:36:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24604; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:36:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18729; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:32:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18723; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:32:17 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:32 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:32 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:32 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:32 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Untraceable Messages ? To: matteo@math.mit.edu (Matteo Mainetti) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:32:10 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Matteo Mainetti" at Nov 2, 95 06:29:40 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 727 Quoting Matteo Mainetti: > Is it possible to change the "from:" part of an outgoing message > in such a way that there is no way to recover the real sender ? > If that is possible, everybody could sign her outgoing message with > my name and address and send it to whomever ?! If that was possible to fake the From: line then, yes, anyone could send letters to someone pretending to be you. However, this cannot be done with (good) mailers. Unfortunately, spoofing mail is very simple to do with other programs. If you want to make sure that noone can pretend to be you then you should add information (eg a PGP signature) which allows a check to be done on the contents. Read about such things in "alt.security.pgp". Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:39:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24684; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:39:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20128; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:34:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20122; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:34:52 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:34 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:34 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:34 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:34 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Forwarding Mail To: bvekoviu@marlin.utmb.edu (Bryan J. Vekovius) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:34:46 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Bryan J. Vekovius" at Nov 2, 95 11:57:12 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 311 Quoting Bryan J. Vekovius: > Does anyone here know how to forward all mail to another mail server? > I have a separate account and it has become difficult to keep checking > all of my mail accounts. See this page for info on "mail forwarding": http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/forwarding.html Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:39:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24712; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:39:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20210; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:37:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20204; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:37:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCHNl-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joel Jenkins Subject: Q: Newsgroups and Carbon Copy Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:39:41 +1000 How can I do this with pine? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:43:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24793; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:43:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18859; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:41:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18853; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:41:53 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:41 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:41 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:41 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:41 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: web browser (Re: could use some more help please:) To: jilmarie@IMAP2.ASU.EDU Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:41:46 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "jilmarie@IMAP2.ASU.EDU" at Nov 3, 95 08:09:39 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 337 Quoting jilmarie@IMAP2.ASU.EDU: > What is a browser and how do I get/use one? A "web browser" is a program which can connect to "web servers", actually a program on a machine ("host") which sends files usually set in HTML (hypertext markup language). Ask your sys admin to install a browser (netscape, mosaic, lynx, ...) for you. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 19:04:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25195; Sun, 5 Nov 95 19:04:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20498; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:58:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20492; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:58:48 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:58 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:58 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:58 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:58 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders To: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:58:38 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <47hg8c$dp5@styx.uwa.edu.au> from "Graham Minchin" at Nov 5, 95 04:57:48 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1565 Quoting Graham Minchin: > Whenever you come across a line starting with "From " you then say "This > might be a new header". You look at the following lines which (if it's a > header) must all start with "Received from: ", "X-Status: " or a large > number of other field names, unless they are part of a "To: " or "Cc: " > field, in which case they probably start with a few spaces. Any header might be broken across several lines, providing each following line starts with white space. Example: X-Example: This header line is more than one line but it is still a valid header line! > Then when you get a blank line (end of header) you count the number of > fields you came across. If this number is greater than a certain limit, you > say "right I've found a header". I guess about 9 or so fields would be a > good sign of a header. Any comments on this algorithm? Nine lines may be a good sign, but the tenth line might be a non valid header lines. This would allow anyone to send you mails with pseudo headers which only require nine lines and thus fool your script. > It will still think that a header within a message is a new header :( OK! >From cac.washington.edu!owner-pine-info Mon Nov 6 12:34:56 1995 From: me to you To: you Date: Mon Nov 6 12:34:56 MET 1995 Subject: Organization: Free University of Berlin X-URL: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Smiley: :-) X-X-L: SMILE! X-X-X-X-X-X-X: This exxxxtra line for Graham Minchin. May his algorithm succeed! Oops, looks like my signature got into the next mail. ;-) Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 19:09:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25286; Sun, 5 Nov 95 19:09:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19149; Sun, 5 Nov 95 19:01:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19143; Sun, 5 Nov 95 19:01:42 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:01 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:01 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:01 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:01 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Q: Newsgroups and Carbon Copy To: sci-jj1@jcu.edu.au (Joel Jenkins) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 04:01:36 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Joel Jenkins" at Nov 6, 95 11:39:41 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 143 Quoting Joel Jenkins: > How can I do this with pine? "Do" what? Define "do"! Do you want to send someone a newsgroup as a carbon copy? Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 20:14:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28761; Sun, 5 Nov 95 20:14:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20401; Sun, 5 Nov 95 20:10:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20393; Sun, 5 Nov 95 20:10:29 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 6 Nov 95 12:06:59 +0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:06:58 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Info Cc: Sven Guckes Subject: Q: How to verify that "elm" is a dead product? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A. Notice that Sven Guckes is answering questions on the pine group. Welcome? aboard Sven. :-) :-) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 22:02:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01037; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:02:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21884; Sun, 5 Nov 95 21:57:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21878; Sun, 5 Nov 95 21:57:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCKV7-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 21:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: beweiss@umich.edu (Barbara Weiss) Subject: How has e-mail changed your writing? Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 21:54:05 Message-Id: I'm working on a project for a masters-level class in Computers and Writing, and would like to join/follow/play-with a discussion group on how e-mail has changed your/our writing. Have I come to a likely place? Has e-mail affected your attitude toward writing? mood? frequency? style? Has it helped to flatten hierarchies, especially in the workplace? Eliminated work? Increased it? Aided communication, or hampered it? Anybody want to get us started? Thanks! Your pal, bew. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 22:56:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01739; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:56:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23796; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:53:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23784; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:53:45 -0800 Received: from commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:53:11 +0100 Received: from bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.2.31]) by commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA05308 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:53:09 +0100 Received: by bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (4.1/ZDV-Uni-Tuebingen-1.0) id AA25555; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:53:08 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:53:04 +0100 (MET) From: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de X-Sender: zrnsm01@bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC-Pine compiled with #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Helo all, I need the PC-Pine binaries (pcpine_f.zip and pcpine_w.zip) compiled with #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Is there a kind soul that has already done this and could send me her/his binaries? thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Spohn | Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 00:53:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03909; Mon, 6 Nov 95 00:53:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25375; Mon, 6 Nov 95 00:38:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25369; Mon, 6 Nov 95 00:38:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCN2R-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 00:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vac%indirect.com@psg.com(Anne, Schoofs) Subject: Femdom In Search of Naughty Boys Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:58:51 GMT Seriously, this is a chance of a lifetime. I want all you naughty boys to contact me at once. Do not delay. Location is unimportant. Let me know how you've been naughty and what type of corrective punishment you deem appropriate. It's time we clean up the net. Anne --------------------------------------------------- Anne Schoofs vac@indirect.com Fax: 602 912 8823 Attn: RAS ------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 01:19:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04645; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:19:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24582; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:04:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24576; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:03:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCNSD-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: opdi@netshop.net (JSmith) Subject: Deleting an FTP.EXE file from Pine - How? Date: 6 Nov 1995 04:40:21 GMT Message-Id: <47k3jl$471@news.netshop.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I have an FTP.EXE file in Pine. I'm using Windows 95 and the Plus Program. There is an FTP.EXE file in my pine message box but I can't delete it. Does anyone know how to delete .exe files from the Pine section? I have no idea how it got there. Thanks. opdi@netshop.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 01:45:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05401; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:45:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26302; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:33:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26296; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:33:19 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:19:28 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA28217; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:20:46 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:20:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: querying for newmail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: >From the "ELM Reference Guide": > "-z This causes Elm not to start if you don't have any mail," > This should be equivalent to "size of mailbox is zero". > Most shells have a text for this, eg for the zsh this would be: > if [[ -s file ]]; then pine; else pine -i; fi Of course, this won't work if you only have IMAP access to your INBOX file. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 01:51:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05529; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:51:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26468; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:44:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26462; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:44:38 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:32:51 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA28869; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:25:55 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:25:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Carla Golden Cc: Sven Guckes , Pine Information Subject: Re: HELP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This error message is merely being *reported* by Pine. The message is actually coming from your news server (its disk is full). When you see something like this why not ask your local systems administrator/service provider in the first instance? Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Carla Golden wrote: > > I keep getting this error message. > > > > [400 No spce left on device writting logging article file ----throttling] > > > Also, I do not see the newsgroup that i subscribed to. Can you help me > with this, thanks a bunch. > > > > > Carla > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 02:15:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05974; Mon, 6 Nov 95 02:15:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25566; Mon, 6 Nov 95 02:09:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25560; Mon, 6 Nov 95 02:09:15 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:50:28 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA03902; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:51:34 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:51:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Mark Drone Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: printing from pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As you mention a StyleWriter I am assuming you are using an Apple Macintosh. I am also assuming that you are running a terminal emulator (eg, NCSA Telnet) on the Macintosh and then logging in to a UNIX computer, from where you then run Pine. Pine, being a UNIX program, knows about the UNIX system's printers. It does not know about any printer you have attached to your Macintosh. Well, almost... By going to the Setup Printer screen you can tell Pine to use an "attached-to-ansi" option. This causes Pine to send the message text down the connection to your machine surrounded by special codes to start and stop an attached printer. If and only if your terminal emulator recognises and acts on these "printer start" and "printer stop" codes can it redirect the arriving text to the printer. Thus in order for this to work your terminal emulator MUST support these codes. The free Mac Kermit program doesn't (I think). NCSA Telnet version 2.6 onwards does (the current version is 2.7b4). Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Mark Drone wrote: > I would like to find out how to print to my Stylewriter from PINE. I've > run the setup and selected the local print option, but can't get it to > work. Thanks > > mdrone@isbe.state.il.us > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 03:40:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08002; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:40:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27838; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:23:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27832; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:23:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCPcD-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy Schlosser Subject: Imap Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 01:00:38 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am working with a network administrator to set up Imap on my main server that I use to log into the internet. We set it up today, and there's been a couple problems that if anyone has any clue as to how to solve, it would be appreciated. The first main problem is this. After setting the server up, we wanted to check it by doing a "telnet" to port 143. When we do this, neither one of us know the command to quit, so we exit out of telnet by hitting ctrl-] and when we get the telnet prompt, hit ctrl-d. When I do this, Imap doesn't seem to be ending, and therefore doesn't kill the process which I initiate when I do the telnet. Does anyone know why this could be happening? To let you know a little bit about the server, it's running bsdi unix. With that being all I know, I really couldn't help in the technical aspects of it. My second question has to deal with PCPine on my end. How much memory does pcpine require to run at full potential? Thanks in advance for any information anyone might have regarding these two matters. Guy (Guy@toledolink.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 04:48:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09965; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:48:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27745; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:33:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27739; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:33:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCQhq-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Subject: Pico mystery... Date: 6 Nov 1995 08:29:17 GMT Message-Id: <47kh0t$b6g@news2.cts.com> Can anybody help me solve this mystery: I edited a few files in pico, in my home directory. I know they are there, because I can recall them with ^R as long as I remember their name. The latter is sometimes a problem. But when I ask to see a list of my files (from the unix promt I changed to my home directory and asked "ls", it lists all kinds of weird stuff I've never heard of, but none of my files. So, where are they? How can I see them listed? Please e-mail if you have a suggestion... Simone P.S. Last time I tried the "ls" command I actually DID see my files listed. Today, it gave me a bunch of other stuff instead. Is my computer going nuts? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 05:48:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11232; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:48:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28571; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:33:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28565; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:33:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCRcZ-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vac%indirect.com@psg.com(Anne, Schoofs) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 06 Nov 95 07:34:15 GMT Message-Id: Spam Cancellation. For details see news.admin.net-abuse.announce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 06:20:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11932; Mon, 6 Nov 95 06:20:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29661; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:18:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29655; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:18:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCRPM-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vac%indirect.com@psg.com(Anne, Schoofs) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 06 Nov 95 07:17:24 GMT Message-Id: Spam Cancellation. For details see news.admin.net-abuse.announce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 07:12:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13267; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:12:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01003; Mon, 6 Nov 95 06:45:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00997; Mon, 6 Nov 95 06:45:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCSi0-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 06:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gloria Blumenthal Subject: Re: printing problem In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 06:32:59 GMT On 4 Nov 1995, Solis James wrote: > I suddenly find that the PRYNT command allows me to print less than a page > of output. What might I have done to limit the output on my printer. > > In order to get around the difficulty I EXPORT, download and print the > document with my word processor which is a round-about nuisance. > > Many thanks! Sol James sjames@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us > Same problem - if I EXPORT it will go to my home directory in the college (my server). Do you know how I would download and print the document? Would appreciate the help. Blumenth@trenton.edu.> > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 07:43:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14155; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:43:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01732; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:29:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01726; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:29:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCTT5-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: romani@email.unc.edu (David Romani) Subject: Re: Multiple PC-Pine users on 1 PC Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 08:54:48 -0500 Message-Id: References: <47dbd7$285@miwok.nbn.com> Marty, In our context, running the app off of a Novel 3.12 server, we do this here by pointing PC-Pine for Windows to specific pinerc files using the -p switch. Set up the program icon to read f:\apps\winpine\pine.exe -p:\users\%user%\mail\pinerc, where %user% is an environment variable the Novell login process creates. This lets each user store their pinerc file and local mailbox collections in a secure place. You could, however, create multiple program manager icons, each hardcoded to a specific pinerc file. In article <47dbd7$285@miwok.nbn.com>, Marty Brenneis wrote: > How do I configure PC-Pine to allow for several people receiving mail on > the same PC? I'd like to have several Pine icons that are for the > different users and IMAP servers. > > Suggestions? > > Marty Brenneis > Industrial Magician > droid@well.com -- David Romani Library Systems Office Academic Affairs Library University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill romani@email.unc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 08:04:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14973; Mon, 6 Nov 95 08:04:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00397; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:24:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00391; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:24:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCTNQ-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: newmedia@nether.net (New Media Productions) Subject: pine on svr4? Date: 6 Nov 1995 14:52:39 GMT Message-Id: <47l7fn$kun@news.cic.net> has anyone built or ported pine on an svr4 system? i need help! kevin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 08:05:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15047; Mon, 6 Nov 95 08:05:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01001; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:49:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00992; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:49:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCTn2-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Frederic Udina Subject: pine for PC, Mac Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:03:11 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Pine people, I've been converted to the Pine religion. It's a good mailer, I use it regularly on my unix box (hp-ux 9.01) One complain: I cannot switch folders by simly typing the folder name. I have a lot of mail folders, and looking for one is often harder than simply typing the name I know. Another complain: The news reader does not tell me if there are 'new news'. I have other readers (Tin or Nuntius in Mac) that flag the news folder that contain messages I have'nt seen yet. But anyway, these are minor comments. Now a couple of questions: Is there a Mac Version of Pine? The PC version, what network software requirement has? Does it save the folders in the local disk? Thank you, Frederic Udina _______________________________________________________________________ | voice: 34 - 3 - 542 17 56 Facultat de Ciencies Economiques | fax: 34 - 3 - 542 17 46 Universitat Pompeu Fabra | e-mail: udina@upf.es Balmes 132 | appleLink: spa0172 08008 Barcelona | Compuserve: 100555.603 SPAIN | W W Web: http://libiya.upf.es/ ___________________________________/_\_________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 08:43:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16633; Mon, 6 Nov 95 08:43:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01121; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:55:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vanbc.wimsey.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01115; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:55:26 -0800 Received: by vanbc.wimsey.com (Smail-3.1.29.1 #32) id m0tCTtE-0000GbC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:55 PST Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:55:16 -0800 (PST) From: Darren Stone To: Sven Guckes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 50 line display? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: > Quoting Darren Stone: > > Using elm & tin, my LINES=50 environment variable (under Unix) allowed me > > to see a good sized screenful of info. > > Well, I'm a pine convert now, but I'm stuck with a dinky little 25-line > > display that only fills half my screen. HELP! > > To cite a recent (very recent!) post to this list: > > From: gs01mew@panther.Gsu.EDU (Eric Wardowski) > Subject: Re: Screen size in Pine on Unix > Date: 30 Oct 1995 14:22:10 GMT > > [...] > Got an answer. I had to type "stty rows 42" to get the rest of the > programs to recognize the screen size. As far as the rest, I run > Procomm Plus 2.01 for DOS. I find that occasionally I have to type > - to do a "Reset Terminal" in Procomm when Pine had set the > terminal lines to 22 or 24. Now all works well! > > Summary: > Try "stty rows 50" at you shell and then start Pine again from that shell. > Just tried it. Unfortunately, "rows 50" is not accepted by stty. At least not the stty on my system. I could find no equivalent in the man page, either. Perhaps I have a funky version of stty. It claims "conformance with the X/Open Portability Guide Issue 3, 1989", for whatever that's worth! Oh well... I'll keep searching... - Darren From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 09:38:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19668; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:38:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03646; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:25:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03640; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:25:12 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11531; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:25:01 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:24:57 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: John Andrea Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pre-created addressbook ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John, I'm interested in looking at some examples of address books that exhibit the parsing problems if you don't mind. I could figure out whether there is a bug that we should fix or whether something about the entries doesn't match the required syntax. I think that would be easier than trying to explain without an example. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 1 Nov 1995, John Andrea wrote: > I pre-create addressbook lists for faculty so that they may have a class > list ready to go. > The format I use is > classname tab classname tab ("lastname, firstname" comma > space space space "lastname, firstname" comma > ... > space space space "lastname, firstname" ) > > My instructions are just, download the file (the pile of them are in the > gopher) then > cat classname.pine >> .addressbook > > But sometimes it doesn't work. Returned messages are: > Unbalanced '"' > or > Unbalanced '<' > but the files are generated by a script so there are no unbalanced > delimiters, and i've checked the files by hand too and they appear fine. > (Yes i know, i've made sure that the tabs come down ok) > > So > 1) is there a limit on the size of addressbook entries ? > i don't think that this is my problem because one large class works > fine, and a smaller one appears to be a problem > 2) is it ok to use those dquote realname dquote entried > what is the exact wanted addressbook format ? i don't wanna have to > read the source code > and what is the relationship with .addressbook.lu ? > 3) is there some other obscure bug related to addressbooks > 4) anyone else doing this > > I've considered removing the realname sections, but then its hard for a > prof to try to matchup the usernames with their students when some leave > the class or new ones enter. Yes i know that finger info will be added, > but students like to put in funky names there so you don't actually get > their real names. > > More info. Using pine 3.91 on AIX 3.2.5 > -- > __________________________________________________________________ > John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. > University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 > http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 09:47:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20106; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:47:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03851; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:32:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03845; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:32:10 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:32 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:32 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:31 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:31 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pico mystery... To: simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:31:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <47kh0t$b6g@news2.cts.com> from "Simone Shoemaker" at Nov 6, 95 08:29:17 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 390 Quoting Simone Shoemaker: > But when I ask to see a list of my files (from the unix promt I changed > to my home directory and asked "ls", it lists all kinds of weird stuff > I've never heard of, but none of my files. > So, where are they? How can I see them listed? Send us your password and we'll take a look. :-) Simone - ask your sysadmin, ok?! We cannot look at your files. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 09:57:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20572; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:57:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05143; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:31:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05127; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:30:55 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:30 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:28 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:28 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:28 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Q: How to verify that "elm" is a dead product? To: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Ed Greshko) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:28:40 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Ed Greshko" at Nov 6, 95 12:06:58 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 937 Quoting Ed Greshko: > A. Notice that Sven Guckes is answering questions on the pine group. > Welcome? aboard Sven. :-) :-) Thanks! :-) Well, although I do a lot for ELM, I thought it was about time I looked into the questions that PINE users have aout email. I am collecting info for a "ELM vs PINE" comparison. So far, both have the pluses, but both could need some featured which users need nowadays. I will let you know about the comparison as soon as I have a little more time. Btw, I don't think that ELM is dead. The developers are busy coding. No, there is no release date. ;-) Sven Blatent plug for ELM: -- ELM - the "Easy Learn Mail" program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm The "ELM Pages" - all about ELM on the World Wide Web: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ ELM versions: Latest release: ELM2.4PL24 [940920] Latest ME patch: ELM2.4PL24ME8b [951012] Latest alpha: ELM2.5a08 [950908] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 10:41:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22508; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:41:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06435; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:15:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06429; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:15:30 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21221; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:13:36 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:13:35 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine compiled with #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You don't really need this option for PC-Pine, since --unlike Unix Pine-- you can set the username variable in PC-Pine (as well as user-domain). -teg On Mon, 6 Nov 1995 martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de wrote: > Helo all, > > I need the PC-Pine binaries (pcpine_f.zip and pcpine_w.zip) compiled with > #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM > > Is there a kind soul that has already done this and could send me her/his > binaries? > > thanks in advance > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Martin Spohn | > Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 > Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de > Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 > Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 10:45:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22729; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:45:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06774; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:24:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06768; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:24:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCWAT-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders In-Reply-To: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de's message of 3 Nov 1995 12: 24:01 -0800 Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 17:43:22 GMT In article guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes: So - how doee Pine recognize mails within mails? The FAQ says it does not regard the Content-Length header. Will Pine stumble over mails in mails when the MTA does not escape "From_" lines? Sven [too lazy to test] If the line in question has a valid format (i.e. contains a properly formatted date after the From_), pine will parse the mail as two adjacent messages. If not, pine will see it all as one message. BTW, this message parsing convention is not at all unique to pine. The standard Unix mail utilities have always (?) used it. Regarding alternatives, I've seen lots of reports about Content-Length: breaking frequently. -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 13:12:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00391; Mon, 6 Nov 95 13:12:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11155; Mon, 6 Nov 95 12:56:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11149; Mon, 6 Nov 95 12:56:23 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA08185 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:56:20 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:46:57 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: PC-PINE + UUPC Possible ? (second call) Message-Id: Organisation: VANDERHORN VOF Address: Oranjelaan 40 City: 3135 ZP Vlaardingen Country: The Netherlands Voice: +31 10 4600411 Fax: +31 10 4342857 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to use Pine on a local mailbox ? We are using Pine for a couple of months on SCO Unix and OpenServer (MMDF). Because we have some travelling notebook's running Kendra's UUPC with a standard mail.exe, we wanted to change the Mail-User-Agent to PC-Pine. We have on hand the "pcpine_[fnpsw].zip" but as far as I can see, they all need access to a remote INBOX, and I like to work on a local file like $MAIL, so we can read and write our mail offline. --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 14:13:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03412; Mon, 6 Nov 95 14:13:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13347; Mon, 6 Nov 95 14:06:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13341; Mon, 6 Nov 95 14:06:19 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20510; Mon, 6 Nov 95 14:04:15 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:04:12 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Guy Schlosser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Imap In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Nov 1995, Guy Schlosser wrote: > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 01:00:38 -0500 > From: Guy Schlosser > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Imap > > I am working with a network administrator to set up Imap on my main > server that I use to log into the internet. We set it up today, and > there's been a couple problems that if anyone has any clue as to how to > solve, it would be appreciated. The first main problem is this. After > setting the server up, we wanted to check it by doing a "telnet" to port > 143. When we do this, neither one of us know the command to quit, so we > exit out of telnet by hitting ctrl-] and when we get the telnet prompt, > hit ctrl-d. . logout > My second question has to deal with PCPine on my end. How much > memory does pcpine require to run at full potential? Thanks in > advance for any information anyone might have regarding these two > matters. > PC-Pine needs a minimum of 500k low-memory. It doesn't use any extended/expanded memory... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 17:01:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11450; Mon, 6 Nov 95 17:01:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16130; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:20:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16124; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:20:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCbih-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: sender's address incorrect Date: 6 Nov 1995 20:21:28 GMT Message-Id: <47lqo8$auc@emngw1.eastman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I view messages in the current folder (the I option), some of the sender's address are not shown correctly. Instead, the "To: myaddress" is shown. This only happens to some but not all e-mail. The problem this causes is that I cannot use R command to reply to the sender because of the incorrect address. Why this happens and how to correct it? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 17:01:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11518; Mon, 6 Nov 95 17:01:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18015; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:35:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18009; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:35:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCbxv-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Re: How has e-mail changed your writing? Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:02:01 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 5 Nov 1995, Barbara Weiss wrote: > I'm working on a project for a masters-level class in Computers and > Writing, and would like to join/follow/play-with a discussion group on > how e-mail has changed your/our writing. Have I come to a likely > place? Has e-mail affected your attitude toward writing? mood? > frequency? style? Has it helped to flatten hierarchies, especially in > the workplace? Eliminated work? Increased it? Aided communication, or > hampered it? Anybody want to get us started? Thanks! > > Your pal, bew. Barbara, Yes, I believe email has changed the way we communicate in the work place. Until recently, I worked for the US Army Research Laboratory where we used email to assign, coordinate and report our work. I think the government, in general, has been very quick to use email. Government work is mostly about collecting and disseminating information and email is ideally suited to it. Since the Internet was initiated by the US Government's Advanced Research Project Agency, it was natural that email use should have spread quickly. Of course, it is easy now for anyone to get an email account. Because electronic mail provides written information to groups of people simultaneously, it improves over telephonic and oral communication, in many (most ?) cases. My group worked with data and analysis. The quality of information exchange was greatly improved once we adopted email. Before email, data was often transcribed from phone calls which usually resulted in less data communicated and more errors. After email, we obtained much more data which we could immediately cut and paste into our studies. I would not say the we did less work but more productive, quality work was done. In the old days, most written communication required approval up the hierarchy. The main reason for this was that it was written, which gave it more stature. Most of it was coordination between functionaries at the smae level of different organizations and did not need to be hoisted up the food chain. Today, this information is routinely exchanged between the functionaries with only a Courtesy Copy (CC) sent to the chiefs. Information gets to where it's needed sooner. Good luck with your thesis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Altofirma Web Works Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ rosully@aww.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 18:03:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14029; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:03:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18689; Mon, 6 Nov 95 17:55:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18683; Mon, 6 Nov 95 17:55:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCdF0-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 17:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: C Lance Moxley Subject: Highly Restricted /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed File Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 14:03:27 -0600 Message-Id: <309E6A0F.1FB@uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am going to set up pine on a bunch of Unix boxes that are basically just dumb terminal servers. The imapd will be running on a seperate host. The use of pine will be through a common userid that is currently used in a menuing environment which allows the users to get to a few applications on the Internet. What I'm looking for is a /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed file that would allow these users to access their remote mailbox and any folders, but now allow them to keep anything on those Unix terminal servers. I'm hoping that some of you have already set up something similar to this, so I don't have to re-invent the wheel. Thanks for any and all help. -- C Lance Moxley E-Mail: clm@uiuc.edu University of Illinois FAX: 217 244-1279 Urbana - Champaign URL:http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/clm/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 18:26:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14698; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:26:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19132; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:17:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sioux.eel.ufl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19116; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:17:28 -0800 Received: from iriquois.eel.ufl.edu (pawnee.eel.ufl.edu) by sioux.eel.ufl.edu (1.37.109.16/4.09) id AA064690646; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:17:26 -0500 From: "Srivatsan Rajagopal" Received: by iriquois.eel.ufl.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA069310643; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:17:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:17:22 -0500 (EST) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pipe Command Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I would like to know how exactly is the message piped to a unix command using Pines "| Pipe" facility. Does it passsomething like : cat | I would like to know if the message can be passed on to another program without using the alt-editor command. Thanks. Srivatsan Rajagopal From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 18:47:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15528; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:47:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21003; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:40:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20997; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:40:48 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00739; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:40:37 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:40:35 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: yky356@emn.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sender's address incorrect In-Reply-To: <47lqo8$auc@emngw1.eastman.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The "To: myaddress" is only shown if you sent the message, or if there is no valid sender's address in the message. In the latter case, Pine has no way to know where to send a reply... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Nov 1995 yky356@emn.com wrote: > Date: 6 Nov 1995 20:21:28 GMT > From: yky356@emn.com > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: sender's address incorrect > > When I view messages in the current folder (the I option), some of the > sender's address are not shown correctly. Instead, the "To: myaddress" > is shown. This only happens to some but not all e-mail. The problem this > causes is that I cannot use R command to reply to the sender because of > the incorrect address. Why this happens and how to correct it? Thanks. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 19:05:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15959; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:05:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21356; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:00:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21350; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:00:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCeCh-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simon@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz (Simon Lyall) Subject: pico/pine for qnx? Date: 7 Nov 1995 09:51:09 +1300 Message-Id: <47lsft$st8@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz> Has anybody ported these programs across to QNX? I asked my sysadmin about compiling them but he says that they will not do this cleanly and he doesn't have the time to make it work. Can anybody point me towards either binaries or ready to compile source? Thanks in advance. -- -- Simon Lyall. | Current Address simon@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz ***PLEASE NOTE: This site tends to mung headers *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 04:15:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29675; Tue, 7 Nov 95 04:15:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28092; Tue, 7 Nov 95 03:58:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from edison.ugr.es by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28086; Tue, 7 Nov 95 03:58:51 -0800 Received: (from jfborras@localhost) by edison.ugr.es (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA07876; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:00:43 +0100 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:00:42 +0100 (MET) From: Juan Francico Borras Correa To: news Pine Subject: UNSUBCRIBE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII UNSUBSCRIBE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 07:33:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04042; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:33:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01490; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:23:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01474; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:23:24 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:40:27 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA08851; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:41:06 GMT Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:41:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Info Mailing List Cc: Pine Developers Subject: ^L and checking for new News articles Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As most people are aware ^L in an ordinary folder (usually the INBOX) can be used to clear the screen and redraw it, and check for newly arrived messages in the process. However when reading a News folder (newsgroup) ^L only clears the screen and redraws it: it doesn't appear to check for any newly arrived articles in the newsgroup. This would actually be extremely useful, and also in keeping with its use in an ordinary folder. Any comments? Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 07:35:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04090; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:35:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01288; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:12:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01282; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:12:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCpfF-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Hian Koon, Chua" Subject: Automatic BInhex decoding in Pine and 2 E-mail accounts from Pine/Elm/Euroda/Mail/MSMAIL Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 10:34:28 -0800 Message-Id: <30966C34.30EE@kos.sgh.gov.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have 2 accounts, one at kos.sgh and one at bbs.sas . I would like to forward all my mail from bbs.sas to kos.sgh. I heard that a .forward file is needed. Can anyone tell me how to do it? I make use of several mail programs. When I telnet to kos, I use pine, elm or Mail. When I am using Windows 3.1/3.11, I use Euroda or MSMAIl. Is there any way to make these program recognise that I have 2 accounts, and could mail from them individually. i.e. I am physically at SGH but my E-mail appears to be from bbs.sas. kos is a SUN Solaris 2.x machine and my PC is running Windows 3.1/3.11. As the E-mail administrator, I need to reconfgiure each program so that it can recognise 2 accounts. Any way to do this ? 2 sets of binaries are needed, 1 for Sun solaris, 1 for Windows 3.1/3.11. I am also having a slight problem with pine/elm/mail/MSmail/Euroda. How do I set up the Sun Solaris and Windows 3.1/3.11 so that it will automatically perform uudecoding of E-mails and unstuffit(unhqx, for mac files) from Elm/Pine/Mail(sun solaris) and MSMAIl/Euroda(windows 3.1/3.11), 2 set of binaries are needed, 1 for SUn and 1 for windows 3.1/3.11. Thank you for your help. Happy halloween, Hian Koon, Chua From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 08:41:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06120; Tue, 7 Nov 95 08:41:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03806; Tue, 7 Nov 95 08:27:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03800; Tue, 7 Nov 95 08:27:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCqpg-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 08:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scheidell@fdma.com (Michael S. Scheidell) Subject: Re: pico/pine for qnx? Date: 7 Nov 1995 09:39:18 -0500 Message-Id: <47nr2m$3k6@fdma.fdma.com> References: <47lsft$st8@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz> Simon Lyall (simon@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz) wrote: : Has anybody ported these programs across to QNX? I asked my sysadmin : about compiling them but he says that they will not do this cleanly and : he doesn't have the time to make it work. Can anybody point me towards : either binaries or ready to compile source? a 'sorta' stunted pico is at ftp://ftp.fdma.com/pub/qnx/ispell+pico. stunted, because it doesn't handle ^z, and doesn't handle SIGWINCH. -- Michael S. Scheidell Florida Datamation, Inc. Distributors of QNX Real Time OS (407) 241-2966 Definition of an Upgrade: Take old bugs out, put new ones in. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 09:29:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08925; Tue, 7 Nov 95 09:29:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04184; Tue, 7 Nov 95 09:12:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04178; Tue, 7 Nov 95 09:12:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCrZ2-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 09:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmbarton@mci.net (Daniel Barton) Subject: Reply without ">" chars Date: 7 Nov 1995 15:52:06 GMT Message-Id: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> Here's one I haven't figured out, is there a way to reply to a note and not have pine add ">" characters at the beginning of the line? Thanks, Daniel --------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 11:21:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14754; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:21:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09046; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:12:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09040; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:12:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCtPQ-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Karoly Negyesi Subject: Initial keystrokes? Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:27:53 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Would like to write a file like pine -I "..." I can not get Pine to accept a newline! Not with "... ... " or with " ...,CR,..." Any help? thanks, ___ ___ Charlie Negyesi chx@cs.elte.hu ___ ___ {~._.~} {~._.~} (+361) 203-5962 (7pm-9pm) {~._.~} {~._.~} _( Y )_ ( * ) Hungary, Budapest ( * ) _( Y )_ (:_~*~_:) ()~*~() H-1462, P.o.box 503 ()~*~() (:_~*~_:) (_)-(_) (_)-(_) May the Bear be with you! (_)-(_) (_)-(_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 11:53:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16597; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:53:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09474; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:31:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09468; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:31:03 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tCsm8-000sEiC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:29 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:28 MEZ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:28:06 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Sven Guckes Cc: Matteo Mainetti , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Untraceable Messages ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can change the From-Header with PINE (You have to recompile it with another seting), but PINE is clever on this one: It wills end an extra Header with you original address. Take a look at this email with H (Full Headers), you will see it. Ciao, Michael On Mon, 6 Nov 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: > Quoting Matteo Mainetti: > > Is it possible to change the "from:" part of an outgoing message > > in such a way that there is no way to recover the real sender ? > > If that is possible, everybody could sign her outgoing message with > > my name and address and send it to whomever ?! > > If that was possible to fake the From: line then, yes, anyone could send > letters to someone pretending to be you. > However, this cannot be done with (good) mailers. > > Unfortunately, spoofing mail is very simple to do with other programs. > If you want to make sure that noone can pretend to be you > then you should add information (eg a PGP signature) > which allows a check to be done on the contents. > Read about such things in "alt.security.pgp". > > Sven > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE The people who really run organizations are usually found several levels down, where it is still possible to get things done. (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 12:04:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17261; Tue, 7 Nov 95 12:04:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08534; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:44:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vax1.calarts.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08528; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:44:34 -0800 Received: from indy1.calarts.edu by vax1.calarts.edu with SMTP; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:44:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by indy1.calarts.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id LAA00431; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:44:42 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:44:42 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Lowenberg X-Sender: susan@indy1.calarts.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sending a Message to Everyone Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way in Pine to send a message to everyone who has an account on the machine? Thanks. Susan Lowenberg Information Resources and Theatre/Dance Librarian California Institute of the Arts 805-253-7888 susan@muse.calarts.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 12:38:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18940; Tue, 7 Nov 95 12:38:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09881; Tue, 7 Nov 95 12:27:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09875; Tue, 7 Nov 95 12:27:51 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 21:27 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 21:27 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 21:27 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 21:27 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders To: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 21:27:40 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Rick Troxel" at Nov 6, 95 05:43:22 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 811 Quoting Rick Troxel: > > So - how doee Pine recognize mails within mails? > > The FAQ says it does not regard the Content-Length header. > > Will Pine stumble over mails in mails when the MTA does not > > escape "From_" lines? > If the line in question has a valid format (i.e. contains a properly > formatted date after the From_), pine will parse the mail as two > adjacent messages. If not, pine will see it all as one message. Is a valid "From_" line enough? Or does Pine do a test on the following lines for a vaild header? > BTW, this message parsing convention is not at all unique to pine. > The standard Unix mail utilities have always (?) used it. > Regarding alternatives, I've seen lots of reports about Content-Length: > breaking frequently. Which mailers honor the Content-Length: line? Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 13:18:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21242; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:18:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11080; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:05:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11065; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:05:14 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tCuHD-000sEvC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:05 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:04 MEZ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:04:31 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Susan Lowenberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sending a Message to Everyone In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No. It could be if the sysadmin of that system has set up an alias for this. (Of course you can write a shellscript to generate yourself such an alias by taking all usernames from /etc/passwd or wherever the usernames live (/var/yp/... or so) Ciao, Michael On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Susan Lowenberg wrote: > Is there any way in Pine to send a message to everyone who has an account > on the machine? > > Thanks. > > Susan Lowenberg > Information Resources and Theatre/Dance Librarian > California Institute of the Arts > 805-253-7888 > susan@muse.calarts.edu > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE The great thing about cats on top of the monitor is that they are near to hand when the screen gets a bit dirty ;O) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 13:46:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22516; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:46:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13432; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:41:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13426; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:40:57 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tCsml-000sElC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:30 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:28 MEZ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:28:22 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: JSmith Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Deleting an FTP.EXE file from Pine - How? In-Reply-To: <47k3jl$471@news.netshop.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >From the Main Menu switch to Folder List (L) and move you cursor to the desired file. Then press D for Delete and PINE will ask you if you really want to delete it. Confirming with Y will destroy the file. It won't be recoverable by your Windows wastebasket. Ciao, Michael PS: If you don't have write permisions on that file OR directory you have to give yourself permissions to do so. PPS: If you received the file in an encoded email the decoder switches file permissions to "Only owner can read/write". On 6 Nov 1995, JSmith wrote: > > I have an FTP.EXE file in Pine. I'm using Windows 95 and the Plus > Program. There is an FTP.EXE file in my pine message box but I can't > delete it. Does anyone know how to delete .exe files from the Pine > section? I have no idea how it got there. Thanks. opdi@netshop.net > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE I believe I found the missing link between animal and civilized man. It is us. (Konrad Lorenz) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 14:04:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23477; Tue, 7 Nov 95 14:04:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13838; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:55:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13832; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:55:27 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26250; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:55:26 -0800 Reply-To: Fred Cherry Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:05:24 -0700 (MST) From: Fred Cherry X-Sender: john1@earth To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Something about Pine is driving me sane! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:55:21 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: I have a problem here that is driving me sane. I am trying to configure the pine program to read and post to newsgroups. I configured as follows: ---------------------------------snip------------------------------ personal-name = user-domain = smtp-server = nntp-server = inbox-path = folder-collections = news-collections = default-fcc = postponed-folder = read-message-folder = signature-file = global-address-book = address-book = feature-list = ---------------------------snip-------------------------------------- Now, after doing that and leaving Pine, and then opening the Pine program again, I get the following: -----------------------------snip----------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- News-collection < (Remote) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] ? Help M Main Menu P PrevFldr - PrevPage D Delete R Rename O OTHER CMDS V [Select] N NextFldr Spc NextPage A Add ---------------------------------snip------------------------------- Then, when I highlight "[ Select Here to See Expanded List ]" on the bottom, it sez that the list is empty. So, then I try to add newsgroups. But, no matter what newsgroup I try to add, it tells me: "Newsgroup doesn't exist." What am I doing wrong? Fred Cherry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 15:17:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26990; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:17:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14416; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:10:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14410; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:10:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCx6U-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Automatic BInhex decoding in Pine and 2 E-mail accounts from Pine/Elm/Euroda/Mail/MSMAIL Date: 7 Nov 1995 09:19:26 -0800 Message-Id: <47o4eu$dft@shellx.best.com> References: <30966C34.30EE@kos.sgh.gov.sg> "Hian Koon, Chua" writes: >I have 2 accounts, one at kos.sgh and one at bbs.sas . I would >like to forward all my mail from bbs.sas to kos.sgh. I heard >that a .forward file is needed. Can anyone tell me how to do it? On your bbs.sas account create a .forward file in your home directory that contains the email address that the mail should be forwarded to. >I make use of several mail programs. >When I telnet to kos, I use pine, elm or Mail. >When I am using Windows 3.1/3.11, I use Euroda or MSMAIl. >Is there any way to make these program recognise that I >have 2 accounts, and could mail from them individually. I use pine's commmand line flags to do this, e.g.: pine -p pinerc.kos to use a different pinerc file. Note that in order to change the From line in pine you need to compile it with ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM not commented out. Another thing that I do is link my Mail and mail directories so that pine and elm use the same default directories for mail folders. I have details about this at: http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/usenet/software/nn/getting-started/faq-doc-58.html >I am also having a slight problem with >pine/elm/mail/MSmail/Euroda. How do I set up the Sun Solaris and >Windows 3.1/3.11 so that it will automatically perform >uudecoding of E-mails and unstuffit(unhqx, for mac files) >from Elm/Pine/Mail(sun solaris) and MSMAIl/Euroda(windows >3.1/3.11), 2 set of binaries are needed, 1 for SUn and 1 for >windows 3.1/3.11. How about just using MIME on all your platforms? Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 15:32:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27995; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:32:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15056; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:28:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15050; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:28:40 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tCwVr-000sBOC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:29 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:28 MEZ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 00:27:48 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Karoly Negyesi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Initial keystrokes? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How about pine -I ".. \ ..." The backslash at the end prevents your shell fro thinking EndOfLine = EndOfCommand Ciao, Michael PS: Nice bears! On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Karoly Negyesi wrote: > Hi! > > Would like to write a file like > > pine -I "..." > > I can not get Pine to accept a newline! Not with > "... > ... > " > > or with " ...,CR,..." > > Any help? > thanks, > > ___ ___ Charlie Negyesi chx@cs.elte.hu ___ ___ > {~._.~} {~._.~} (+361) 203-5962 (7pm-9pm) {~._.~} {~._.~} > _( Y )_ ( * ) Hungary, Budapest ( * ) _( Y )_ > (:_~*~_:) ()~*~() H-1462, P.o.box 503 ()~*~() (:_~*~_:) > (_)-(_) (_)-(_) May the Bear be with you! (_)-(_) (_)-(_) > > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE The shortest unit of time in the multiverse is the New York Second, defined as the period of time between the traffic lights turning green and the cab behind you honking. (Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 15:37:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28238; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:37:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16703; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:31:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16697; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:31:15 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tCwXM-000s90C; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:30 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:29 MEZ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 00:29:21 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Daniel Barton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars In-Reply-To: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As far as I recall it, this is a define in the sources. So only recompiling can change this. Ciao, Michael PS: Perhaps PINE 3.92 will do it? :-) On 7 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > Here's one I haven't figured out, is there a way to reply to a note > and not have pine add ">" characters at the beginning of the line? > > Thanks, Daniel > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | > | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | > | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE "They're filming Rocky V now. This one's being billed as `Rocky's Greatest Challenge', so I guess there's an IQ test involved." (Jay Leno) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 16:23:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00500; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:23:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18095; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:18:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mizar.usc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18089; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:18:17 -0800 Received: (kozinski@localhost) by mizar.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) id QAA22701; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:18:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:18:04 -0800 (PST) From: The Easy Rider To: Daniel Barton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars In-Reply-To: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a related question: Is there any way of removing all the >>>s from messages that have been forwarded to you before you pass them on? Ciao. AK On 7 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > Here's one I haven't figured out, is there a way to reply to a note > and not have pine add ">" characters at the beginning of the line? > > Thanks, Daniel > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | > | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | > | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 17:01:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02385; Tue, 7 Nov 95 17:01:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19121; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:56:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.96.96.111] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19115; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:55:58 -0800 Received: (from dhs1@localhost) by pub.zjpta.net.cn (8.6.11/8.6.11) id IAA25093; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:55:19 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:55:19 +0800 (CST) From: dhs1@pub.zjpta.net.cn To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII UNSUBscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 18:09:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05454; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:09:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21010; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:05:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21004; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:05:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCzoq-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: pine for PC, Mac Date: 7 Nov 95 15:42:18 GMT Message-Id: References: Frederic Udina writes: >Hi Pine people, >I've been converted to the Pine religion. It's a good mailer, I use it >regularly on my unix box (hp-ux 9.01) >One complain: I cannot switch folders by simly typing the folder name. I >have a lot of mail folders, and looking for one is often harder than >simply typing the name I know. I do this all the time. 'g', then I am prompted for folder name. If I type part of the name in followed by , it completes the name if possible. Isn't this what you want and then some? >Another complain: The news reader does not tell me if there are 'new news'. >I have other readers (Tin or Nuntius in Mac) that flag the news folder >that contain messages I have'nt seen yet. >But anyway, these are minor comments. >Now a couple of questions: >Is there a Mac Version of Pine? >The PC version, what network software requirement has? Does it save the >folders in the local disk? >Thank you, >Frederic Udina >_______________________________________________________________________ > | voice: 34 - 3 - 542 17 56 >Facultat de Ciencies Economiques | fax: 34 - 3 - 542 17 46 >Universitat Pompeu Fabra | e-mail: udina@upf.es > Balmes 132 | appleLink: spa0172 > 08008 Barcelona | Compuserve: 100555.603 > SPAIN | W W Web: http://libiya.upf.es/ >___________________________________/_\_________________________________ -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 18:50:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06719; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:50:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20482; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:45:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20470; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:45:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tD0Tx-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qed!mccarthj@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Julie A. McCarthy) Subject: Using group names Date: 7 Nov 1995 21:53:22 GMT Message-Id: <47okgi$33v@knot.queensu.ca> Is it possible to show only the group name in your messages, rather lines of individual names? If you have a group made up of more than a few people it is annoying to have to scroll through the list of names to get to the body of the note. Julie A. McCarthy PHONE: (613) 545-2277 Department of Economics E-MAIL: mccarthj@qed.econ.queensu.ca Queen's University HOME PAGE: http://qed.econ.queensu.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 19:55:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08438; Tue, 7 Nov 95 19:55:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22830; Tue, 7 Nov 95 19:50:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ahcbsd1.ovnet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22824; Tue, 7 Nov 95 19:50:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (jcobb@localhost) by ahcbsd1.ovnet.com (8.6.5/8.6.6) id WAA20089; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:49:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:49:57 -0500 (EST) From: "James M. Cobb" To: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de Cc: Daniel Barton , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Friend, Export the note to your home directory. For simplicity's sake, give it a one letter filename. Open the compose message screen. Type in your message. Position the cursor a few lines below your message. Press control-R, type in the one-letter filename. The note will appear (with the first line of the note on the line where you positioned the cursor). Of course, if the note already had >'s in it when you first re- ceived it... Cordially, Jim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 22:35:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12442; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:35:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25478; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:31:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25472; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:31:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tD3zv-00038EC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Subject: terminal control characters in pine messages Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:15:37 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I recently received a message that flashed quickly across my screen in pine. I was told that this message probably included terminal control code set up by my shell. I'm not sure what this means & wonder if somebody could shed some light on it for me. Thanks, David Clark dclark@stripe.colorado.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 00:25:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15505; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:25:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26944; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:21:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26938; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:21:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tD5jz-00038EC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srl@taligent.com (Steven Loomis [Sir Lemon Stove]) Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 19:15:16 -0700 Message-Id: References: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> In article , kozinski@mizar.usc.edu (The Easy Rider) wrote: > I have a related question: Is there any way of removing all the >>>s > from messages that have been forwarded to you before you pass them on? > Ciao. AK I have been hacking pine to do this. because of the nature of the stream filters inside pine it is very difficult. So far I have not been successful. Another thing that i am trying to get it to do is to STOP quoting a message once it hits a line of -----------------------'s (which denote a forwardedmessage block on some mailers) If anyone has got this working let me know. The place to look is filters.c, look for the gf_prefix() function. -- Steven R. Loomis srl@taligent.com Taligent, Inc. Cupertino, California, USA http://www-dcg/srl (Taligent internal) http://www.sj-coop.net/~srl (anywhere else) All opinions are mine only, not Taligent's From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 01:08:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17043; Wed, 8 Nov 95 01:08:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28968; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:56:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28962; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:56:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tD6GA-00038EC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: sender's address incorrect Date: 7 Nov 1995 13:36:45 GMT Message-Id: <47nndd$1eoi@emngw1.eastman.com> References: <47lqo8$auc@emngw1.eastman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) wrote: > >The "To: myaddress" is only shown if you sent the message, or if there >is no valid sender's address in the message. In the latter case, Pine >has no way to know where to send a reply... > The problem is that there is indeed a valid address of sender (see the enclosed) and there is no problem when using the UNIX mail program to list the incoming e-mail. The sender's address always shows up correctly in UNIX mail. But when using the I option in the PINE's main menu to list the incoming e-mail, the sender's address is shown as "to: yky356@....". I found that if the sender's address shows up only in the first line of the header and nowhere else, PINE has the problem of figuring out sender's address. If, however, there is another "From:.." one or two lines above the "To:.." line, then PINE has no problem figuring out sender's address. Why? ------------- example of a problematic header -------------------- >From MARIAS@mdli.com Fri Nov 3 10:58:14 1995 Received: by eastman.com id AA31534 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for yky356@eastman.com); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:53:16 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.eastman.com by eastman.com with SMTP id AA49451 (5.67b/SMI-4.1 for ); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:53:15 -0500 Received: by gatekeeper.eastman.com; id LAA24441; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:10:44 -0500 Received: from nomad.holonet.net(198.207.169.2) by gatekeeper.eastman.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma024437; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:10:40 -0500 Received: from jubal.mdli.com by nomad.holonet.net (MARIAS@mdli.com) id HAA02047; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:52:48 -0800 Received: from gimli.mdli.com by jubal.mdli.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/ 9393.1) id AA55750; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:52:15 -0800 Received: from mdli.com by mdli.com (PMDF V4.3-10 #6626) id <01HX76ED7VVKHWA5X0@mdli.com>; Fri, 03 Nov 1995 07:52:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 07:52:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Incompatibility of ISIS/Base and WorldScript II To: yky356@eastman.com Message-Id: <01HX76ED8OTEHWA5X0@mdli.com> X-Vms-To: IN%"yky356@eastman.com" X-Vms-Cc: MARIAS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: RO From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 02:56:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20954; Wed, 8 Nov 95 02:56:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00153; Wed, 8 Nov 95 02:42:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00146; Wed, 8 Nov 95 02:42:34 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:38:59 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:38:59 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Info Subject: popd for sco.... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, This is pine related.....sort of.... We are working on a project in China and need a popd that runs on SCO Unix. The person working on the project saying: I next got the ipopd package which comes with pine (imapd-3.6-beta from ftp.cac.washington.edu). This package is comprehensive (3.5 MB of source) and has a makefile entry for sco. Unfortunately, it seems to be missing a crypt library required for passwords. Also, its pop-2 daemon doesn't recognize VistaMAIL's USER message. Is this right? My understanding was that VistaMAIL is pop-2. So, does anyone have a compiled popd for SCO? Or, I believe there is an International replacement for the SCO crypt library. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 05:20:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26361; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:20:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03175; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:07:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03169; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:07:24 -0800 Received: from ciint by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA11977 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:07:20 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa27661; 8 Nov 95 13:48 WET Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:46:55 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Ed Greshko Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: popd for sco.... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > Hi, > > This is pine related.....sort of.... > > We are working on a project in China and need a popd that runs > on SCO Unix. The person working on the project saying: > > I next got the ipopd package which comes with pine (imapd-3.6-beta from > ftp.cac.washington.edu). This package is comprehensive (3.5 MB of source) and > has a makefile entry for sco. > > Unfortunately, it seems to be missing a crypt library required for passwords. Your problem comes from the fact that SCO does not ship ANY type of crypt library with their system, because they do not known in advance if the software will be sold inside the U.S.A. or outside of it. So, as I understand it, you'll have to ask them for this library and depending on your whereabouts you will get either the U.S. domestic version (including the DES decrypt calls) or the International version (crypt only). Unfortunately, you'll only notice the missing crypt libraries at the moment you want to compile an important piece of software, right? I wonder why SCO cannot ALWAYS ship an International crypt-only library and allow U.S. customers to upgrade to the full-blown version. Is that also against U.S. Government policies? > So, does anyone have a compiled popd for SCO? Actually, there IS a complete popd package for SCO (installable with custom and everything). It can be found on ftp.sco.com in the TLS directory. Look for files beginning with tls049*. If you cannot get to these files I can mail you a copy. Keep in mind that this is a regular POP3 server and that is has nothing to do with IMAP (though that didn't seem to be what you were asking for). > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I hope that this will do it ;-) > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > Best regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | ...at a time when men were REAL men and | | CI International B.V. | wrote their own device drivers (Linus) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 06:04:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27162; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:04:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03863; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:57:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03857; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:57:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDAzo-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: ELM-generated confusion for PINE Date: 7 Nov 1995 23:19:37 GMT Message-Id: <47opi9$t07@fcnews.fc.hp.com> My work group, runs on HP-UX 9.07, with ELM (70.85) and PINE (3.91). When any of my colleagues post an email from ELM, the first paragraph (text followed by two or more carriage returns) is replaced with the prompt: Parts/attachments: 1 Shown 273 bytes Message 1.1 Shown 7 lines Text ---------------------------------------- [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] To see the "Included Message", I have to work a few layers down through the ViewAttach functionality. A faster way to see it is to select (R)espond and then (C)ancel when I'm finished reading, but that is neither elegant nor convenient. Other colleagues who use mh (or other MUAs) don't have this problem. What's going on? Is there anything I can do to fix it? -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 06:27:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27689; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:27:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05447; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:17:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05441; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:17:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDBGQ-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein) Subject: Bounce notice MIME type 8.7.x disturbing to PINE - change format? Date: 8 Nov 1995 10:46:02 GMT Message-Id: <47q1pa$9nb@news1.mpcs.com> Subject says it all, the content type of the 8.7.x bounce reports gives pine 3.91 the willies (crashes pine in fact, when accidentally calling up the attachment viewer). Is it possible to coerce sendmail without opening it up into using the old MIME format so as to retain the ethical benefit of having the message text off in an attachment? -- Howard Goldstein http://www.tapr.org/~n2wx/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 06:44:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28189; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:44:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05722; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:34:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fred.Cary.mci.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05716; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:34:32 -0800 Received: by fred.cary.mci.net (8.6.12/kaw-mci.net/feb95) id JAA07410; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:34:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:34:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel M. Barton" X-Sender: dmbarton@fred.cary.mci.net To: "James M. Cobb" Cc: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, I've tried that, but I want to be able to use the reply function to automatically put in all the email addresses into the header of the reply. I know I can then delete the note below and include an expunged copy of the note, but its not exactly user friendly. Thanks, Daniel --------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | --------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, James M. Cobb wrote: > > > Friend, > > > Export the note to your home directory. For simplicity's sake, > give it a one letter filename. > > Open the compose message screen. Type in your message. Position > the cursor a few lines below your message. Press control-R, type > in the one-letter filename. The note will appear (with the first > line of the note on the line where you positioned the cursor). > > Of course, if the note already had >'s in it when you first re- > ceived it... > > > Cordially, > > Jim > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 06:54:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28422; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:54:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05929; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:46:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05917; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:46:06 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:42:30 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 22:42:29 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Richard Gering Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: popd for sco.... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Richard Gering wrote: > Actually, there IS a complete popd package for SCO (installable with > custom and everything). It can be found on ftp.sco.com in the TLS > directory. Look for files beginning with tls049*. If you cannot get to these > files I can mail you a copy. > > Keep in mind that this is a regular POP3 server and that is has nothing > to do with IMAP (though that didn't seem to be what you were asking for). > > I hope that this will do it ;-) Thanks for all the wonderful information! Now the only problem is I stupidly forgot to mention that I need a pop2 server. :-( :-( I hope my only recourse is *not* to attempt to get the crypt library for the machine in China. Who knows how long that could take? Besides, its China.....license, license? :-) Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 07:52:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00255; Wed, 8 Nov 95 07:52:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05755; Wed, 8 Nov 95 07:42:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05749; Wed, 8 Nov 95 07:42:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDCa2-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 07:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gras Regis Subject: Q: How to read "Base64 attached" message Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:57:28 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I received a mail with 5 attachements, and pine can't read them When I tried to see the message with elm, I saw: --==_19951106192553_6069 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; charset="us-ascii"; name="COMPUTER.COM" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="COMPUTER.COM" Content-Description: COMPUTER.COM Content-Transfer-Encoding: Base64 Q29tcHV0ZXIgQ29tbXVuaWNhdGlvbnMgSSAtLSBXaWRlIEFyZWEgTmV0d29ya3MNCkNvdXJz ZSBjb2RlDQpNb2R1bGVzIDENClByZXJlcXVpc2l0ZSBjb3Vyc2UocykgIG5vbmUNClRlYWNo ------------------------------------------------------------------------- What is Base64? How to decode it ? When I tried to use the view attachment of pine "it" said [VIEWER Result: xdvi.exe: DVI file doesn't start with preamble] Can somebody please help me by explaining how to read this mail ? *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Regis Gras | Tel (33) 76 82 62 60 * * Laboratoire CEPHAG | ou (33) 76 82 64 26 * * ENSIEG, Rue de la Houille Blanche BP 46 | Fax (33) 76 82 63 84 * * 38402 Saint Martin d'Heres CEDEX, France | e-mail gras@cephag.observ-gr.fr* *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 08:38:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02540; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:38:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08059; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:19:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08051; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:19:25 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01544; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:17:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:17:52 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Gras Regis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: How to read "Base64 attached" message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I suspect you have a malformed MIME-gram... probably the "Mime-Version: 1.0" header is missing. If that's the case, you can either save the message to a folder and manually edit it to add the above header, then use Pine to read it, or you can try using CMU's munpack program on it, which I think will try to figure things out even if the MIME header is missing. -teg On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Gras Regis wrote: > I received a mail with 5 attachements, and pine can't read them > When I tried to see the message with elm, I saw: > > --==_19951106192553_6069 > Content-Type: application/octet-stream; charset="us-ascii"; > name="COMPUTER.COM" > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="COMPUTER.COM" > Content-Description: COMPUTER.COM > Content-Transfer-Encoding: Base64 > > Q29tcHV0ZXIgQ29tbXVuaWNhdGlvbnMgSSAtLSBXaWRlIEFyZWEgTmV0d29ya3MNCkNvdXJz > ZSBjb2RlDQpNb2R1bGVzIDENClByZXJlcXVpc2l0ZSBjb3Vyc2UocykgIG5vbmUNClRlYWNo > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > What is Base64? How to decode it ? > > When I tried to use the view attachment of pine "it" said > [VIEWER Result: xdvi.exe: DVI file doesn't start with preamble] > > Can somebody please help me by explaining how to read this mail ? > > *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* > * Regis Gras | Tel (33) 76 82 62 60 * > * Laboratoire CEPHAG | ou (33) 76 82 64 26 * > * ENSIEG, Rue de la Houille Blanche BP 46 | Fax (33) 76 82 63 84 * > * 38402 Saint Martin d'Heres CEDEX, France | e-mail gras@cephag.observ-gr.fr* > *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 08:39:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02586; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:39:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08276; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:26:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08270; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:26:15 -0800 Received: from s97072.u97.stevens-tech.edu (apu@S97072.U97.stevens-tech.edu [155.246.137.180]) by menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA11794 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:26:13 -0500 Received: (from apu@localhost) by s97072.u97.stevens-tech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02933; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:25:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:25:48 -0500 (EST) From: Apu X-Sender: apu@s97072.u97.stevens-tech.edu To: yky356@emn.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sender's address incorrect In-Reply-To: <47nndd$1eoi@emngw1.eastman.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Nov 1995 yky356@emn.com wrote: > dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) wrote: > >The "To: myaddress" is only shown if you sent the message, or if there > >is no valid sender's address in the message. In the latter case, Pine > >has no way to know where to send a reply... > > The problem is that there is indeed a valid address of sender (see the > enclosed) and there is no problem when using the UNIX mail program to > list the incoming e-mail. [...] > figuring out sender's address. If, however, there is another "From:.." > one or two lines above the "To:.." line, then PINE has no problem > figuring out sender's address. Why? The 'problem' from your point of view is that Pine is only looking at the "From: " address. mail is either only looking at the "From " address or is looking at both the "From " and "From: " addresses. (The ':' is _very_ significant.) The debate as to whether this is a bug or feature is left up to others. The "From " line has a very specific format and is what determines where each message begins as they are stored (in Berkeley mail format, that is) as one long file, one message immediately after the other.* The "From " line is also useful for determining the true mailer of the message as that line is added by the first system handling the message, and short of recompiling sendmail (or its equiv.), cannot be altered by the user (at least not easily). The "From: " line has a much looser format, and can much more easily be changed by the user to reflect different e-mail addresses and user names. *-This is why whenever a line begins with "From " (without the quotes), you will see it as ">From " (again, without the quotes)...this is to prevent the mail client from getting confused and thinking a new message has begun when, in fact, it is just a regular line in the message body. As far as I know (I haven't specifically looked up the relevant RFCs), the "From: " header is required for a properly formatted e-mail message, so I would argue that you are just seeing a side-affect of receiving mail from a non-standard mail program. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Apu............................................apu@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu WARNING: I DISCRIMINATE E-mail is dealt with immediately; Snail mail, if I have nothing to do (never) or I'm bored (sometimes) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 08:45:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03012; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:45:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08252; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:25:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08246; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:25:31 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01897; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:25:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:25:25 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: yky356@emn.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sender's address incorrect In-Reply-To: <47nndd$1eoi@emngw1.eastman.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The "From MARIA..." line is *NOT* part of the RFC-822 header set. It is a message separator line used in some, but by no means all, mailbox formats. This is out-of-band information that is not part of the actual message, and depending on the system, is often unreliable or unobtainable. For Pine to know who the message is from, the message must have a valid RFC-822 "From: " header (that's the one with the colon). The absence of the 822 From: suggests a bug or misconfiguration of the MUA or mail transport software at the originating site, although in cases where UUCP is involved, I believe it often falls to the receiving MTA to fix the messages before storing them in the incoming mail spool. -teg On 7 Nov 1995 yky356@emn.com wrote: > dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) wrote: > > > >The "To: myaddress" is only shown if you sent the message, or if there > >is no valid sender's address in the message. In the latter case, Pine > >has no way to know where to send a reply... > > > > The problem is that there is indeed a valid address of sender (see the > enclosed) and there is no problem when using the UNIX mail program to > list the incoming e-mail. The sender's address always shows up correctly > in UNIX mail. But when using the I option in the PINE's main menu to > list the incoming e-mail, the sender's address is shown as "to: > yky356@....". I found that if the sender's address shows up only in the > first line of the header and nowhere else, PINE has the problem of > figuring out sender's address. If, however, there is another "From:.." > one or two lines above the "To:.." line, then PINE has no problem > figuring out sender's address. Why? > > ------------- example of a problematic header -------------------- > From MARIAS@mdli.com Fri Nov 3 10:58:14 1995 > Received: by eastman.com id AA31534 > (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for yky356@eastman.com); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:53:16 -0500 > Received: from gatekeeper.eastman.com by eastman.com with SMTP id > AA49451 > (5.67b/SMI-4.1 for ); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 > 10:53:15 -0500 > Received: by gatekeeper.eastman.com; id LAA24441; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 > 11:10:44 -0500 > Received: from nomad.holonet.net(198.207.169.2) by > gatekeeper.eastman.com via smap (g3.0.1) > id xma024437; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:10:40 -0500 > Received: from jubal.mdli.com by nomad.holonet.net (MARIAS@mdli.com) > id HAA02047; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:52:48 -0800 > Received: from gimli.mdli.com by jubal.mdli.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/ > 9393.1) > id AA55750; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:52:15 -0800 > Received: from mdli.com by mdli.com (PMDF V4.3-10 #6626) > id <01HX76ED7VVKHWA5X0@mdli.com>; Fri, 03 Nov 1995 07:52:41 -0800 (PST) > Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 07:52:41 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Incompatibility of ISIS/Base and WorldScript II > To: yky356@eastman.com > Message-Id: <01HX76ED8OTEHWA5X0@mdli.com> > X-Vms-To: IN%"yky356@eastman.com" > X-Vms-Cc: MARIAS > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Status: RO > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 09:19:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05248; Wed, 8 Nov 95 09:19:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09210; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:57:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09204; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:57:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDDko-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thouveni@cicg-communication.grenet.fr (Frederic Thouvenin) Subject: how to install pine? Date: 8 Nov 1995 14:15:58 +0100 Message-Id: <47qaieINN9es@cicg-communication.grenet.fr> We try to install pine on SunOs UNIX. We allready found that pine is avaible from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine But how can we transfer it?? Thanks for help Fred Thouvenin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 09:28:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05762; Wed, 8 Nov 95 09:28:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08553; Wed, 8 Nov 95 09:12:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08547; Wed, 8 Nov 95 09:12:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDE11-00038DC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 09:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Pico mystery... Date: 7 Nov 1995 18:14:56 -0800 Message-Id: <47p3r0$82q@shellx.best.com> References: <47kh0t$b6g@news2.cts.com> simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) writes: >I edited a few files in pico, in my home directory. I know they are >there, because I can recall them with ^R as long as I remember their name. >The latter is sometimes a problem. > >But when I ask to see a list of my files (from the unix promt I changed >to my home directory and asked "ls", it lists all kinds of weird stuff >I've never heard of, but none of my files. > >So, where are they? How can I see them listed? >From within pico type: ^R ^T to get into the file browser. You'll see a list of your files and at the top it will tell you what directory you're in. -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 11:07:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11662; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:07:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12661; Wed, 8 Nov 95 10:37:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12655; Wed, 8 Nov 95 10:37:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDFK8-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 10:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: TRN: What's the best way to keep an address book? Date: 7 Nov 1995 19:17:36 -0800 Message-Id: <47p7gg$919@shellx.best.com> References: <46vi0o$gj5@uiah.fi> ex@uiah.fi (Samu Mielonen) writes: >You can use your favourite e-mail program with trn. I use elm by inserting >the following lines into my startup file (.tcshrc in my case). > >setenv MAILPOSTER 'elm -i %h -s \"Re: %S\" %t' #Use elm for e-mail >setenv MAILHEADER " " #Dump headers > >I believe you can invoke pine in a similar fashion, although I'm not totally >sure as I'm not a Unix (nor Pine) guru. Unfortunately Pine 3.91 and below do not allow you to mail messages from the command line so I don't think you'll be able to do this. (Pine folks: Will 3.92 be able to do this type of thing?) What I do if I want to mail a news message to someone in my addressbook is bounce it to my email address (using "|/usr/bin/mail nancym@ii.com") and then forward the message from Pine. Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 11:42:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13478; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:42:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12422; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:13:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12416; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:13:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDFtx-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barnes@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com (Simon Barnes) Subject: UIDL support in IPOP3D Date: 8 Nov 1995 15:23:13 GMT Message-Id: <47qi11$s09@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> I notice that Netscape v2b2 expects the POP server to have support for an optional command called UIDL in order to "leave mail on server" (in fact, I had to switch my Mac off at the wall to prevent it from deleting all the mail from the server when Netscape found that the UIDL command didn't exist). Therefore it would be quite convenient if the UIDL command, documented in RFC1725, could be added to the ipop3d client shipped with imap-3.5 or -3.6. Simon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 11:54:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14230; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:54:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14266; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:28:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14260; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:28:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDG6X-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrej Borsenkow Subject: Q: Mailing list for Pine? Date: 8 Nov 1995 14:49:29 GMT Message-Id: <47qg1p$kge@nervous.pdb.sni.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks! Is there any mailling list for Pine? Thanks in advance! ------------------------------------------------------ Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 13:01:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17973; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:01:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14791; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:28:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14780; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:28:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDH4l-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: proveit@mack.rt66.com (Mr. Sarang Gupta) Subject: Re: Untraceable Messages? [serious question] Date: 7 Nov 1995 21:57:06 -0700 Message-Id: <47pdb2$5eo@mack.rt66.com> References: In article , Matteo Mainetti wrote: >Is it possible to change the "from:" part of an outgoing message >in such a way that there is no way to recover the real sender ? On our work system, if you use ELM to send someone a message, the From line looks like: **From sgupta Wed Dec 15 1996 [etc] except without the two astericks (I just added those to prevent confusion). Pine ignores this From line and the message appears to come from a mysterious unknown user. While this is cute for roughly 10 seconds, it can also be quite annoying ("hey, why are you sending me anonymous mail and then signing it?") especially since the Reply command doesn't work properly ("no valid receipients for this message" or whatever). So, the answer to your question is: "Use ELM and hope the receiver uses Pine"... but my question is: "OK, it's cute.. now, how do I get around it?" Sarang (proveit@rt66.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 13:05:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18720; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:05:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16055; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:29:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16049; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:29:22 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16073; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:28:10 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:28:09 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: TRN: What's the best way to keep an address book? In-Reply-To: <47p7gg$919@shellx.best.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nancy, 3.92 will still require interactive involvement to send a message. -teg On 7 Nov 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > ex@uiah.fi (Samu Mielonen) writes: > >You can use your favourite e-mail program with trn. I use elm by inserting > >the following lines into my startup file (.tcshrc in my case). > > > >setenv MAILPOSTER 'elm -i %h -s \"Re: %S\" %t' #Use elm for e-mail > >setenv MAILHEADER " " #Dump headers > > > >I believe you can invoke pine in a similar fashion, although I'm not totally > >sure as I'm not a Unix (nor Pine) guru. > > Unfortunately Pine 3.91 and below do not allow you to mail messages > from the command line so I don't think you'll be able to do this. > (Pine folks: Will 3.92 be able to do this type of thing?) > > What I do if I want to mail a news message to someone in my addressbook > is bounce it to my email address (using "|/usr/bin/mail nancym@ii.com") > and then forward the message from Pine. > > Good luck, > Nancy > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 13:38:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20473; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:38:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17833; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:23:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17825; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:23:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDHxb-00038DC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srl@taligent.com (Steven Loomis [Sir Lemon Stove]) Subject: Re: ELM-generated confusion for PINE Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 09:43:28 -0700 Message-Id: References: <47opi9$t07@fcnews.fc.hp.com> In article <47opi9$t07@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) wrote: > My work group, runs on HP-UX 9.07, with ELM (70.85) and PINE (3.91). > When any of my colleagues post an email from ELM, the first paragraph > (text followed by two or more carriage returns) is replaced with the > prompt: > > Parts/attachments: > 1 Shown 273 bytes Message > 1.1 Shown 7 lines Text > ---------------------------------------- ELM, for some wacky reason is making the Content-Type of the top-level message "Message/rfc822".. This is really bizarre! RFC 1521 states that Message/rfc822 is for encapsulated messages. text/plain seems to be a much better choice for the toplevel content-type. -- Steven R. Loomis srl@taligent.com Taligent, Inc. Cupertino, California, USA http://www-dcg/srl (Taligent internal) http://www.sj-coop.net/~srl (anywhere else) All opinions are mine only, not Taligent's From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 16:00:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27177; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:00:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20830; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:38:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20824; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:38:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDK1Z-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: plisker@netcom.com (Peter Lisker) Subject: POSSIBLE TO RESTORE LOST PINE FOLDERS? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:15:10 GMT A little while ago I was deleting files from my home directory. In the middle of this I got disconnected. This has been happening for DAYS now on Netcom (when you are lucky enough to be able to log in). They just say "sorry if this caused you any inconvenience"). Or it is so S-L-O-W that I might as well be using a 150 baud modem. When I was finally able to log on again I was going to use Pine to compose a letter of complaint to support@netcom but when I got into Pine I discovered to my horror that ALL my folders were GONE (except INBOX). I called netcom Tech support and they told me they COULD do a restore but they would not do so unless I can prove it's their fault which frankly I can't say for sure whether it is or not. All I know is these folders are my life and I need the info contained within. Can anyone offer any suggestions whether it's technical advice or how I can lean on netcom to do me the favor of a restore? All I know is I am getting really fed up with having to put up with their technical difficulties and even though this one MIGHT be my fault I plan to switch providers soon. When I called tech support at midnight I had to wait 20 minutes to be told no. They were probably swamped with calls from other Netcom subscribers who have been unable to log on or stay logged on if they are fortunate to connect. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 16:08:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27667; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:08:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22140; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:43:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22134; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:43:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDK6F-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin R. Coombes" Subject: Re: Imap Date: 8 Nov 1995 16:41:30 GMT Message-Id: <47qmjq$43g@hecate.umd.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guy Schlosser wrote: >I am working with a network administrator to set up Imap on my main >server that I use to log into the internet. We set it up today, and >there's been a couple problems that if anyone has any clue as to how to >solve, it would be appreciated. The first main problem is this. After >setting the server up, we wanted to check it by doing a "telnet" to port >143. When we do this, neither one of us know the command to quit, so we >exit out of telnet by hitting ctrl-] and when we get the telnet prompt, >hit ctrl-d. The command structure and the commands recognized by an IMAP server are detailed in RFC 1730 (with additional information in RFCs 1731, 1732, and 1733). These RFCs are included with the source of the University of Washington's IMAP server, in the Doc subdirectory. In particular, each command sent to the server needs a four character identifier, a command tag, and the necessary arguments. A minimal set of commands to test if the IMAP server is working is as follows. (Here words in all caps are the command tags, and lower case are the arguments you need to supply. The exception is the INBOX argument, which is a special name designating the user's default mailbox.) a000 LOGIN username password a001 SELECT INBOX a002 LIST a003 FETCH 1 RFC822 a004 LOGOUT Kevin Coombes From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 16:53:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29670; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:53:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23046; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:48:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23040; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:48:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDL7U-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin R. Coombes" Subject: PC-PINE and blank messages Date: 8 Nov 1995 16:48:46 GMT Message-Id: <47qn1e$4a4@hecate.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I'm trying to install PC Pine and running into some problems. The IMAP server at the other end has also just been installed; it's the IMAP4 server from the University of Washington. I used telnet to connect directly to port 143 on the host, and I can do everything I'm supposed to be able to do interactively, so I believe the IMAP server is okay. One of the PCs is running Novell Netware 3.12. I installed pcpine_n onto the machine. It never manages to connect to the server; I always get a host unknown message. This even happens if I use the dotted-quad numeric IP address of the host instead of the domain name. The second PC is running a newer version of Novell Netware. (4.02??) On this PC, pcpine_n is able to connect to the IMAP server and it tells me the correct number of available messages. Unfortunately, it insists that all of the messages have completely blank subject lines and message bodies. That makes it easy to read my mail in a hurry, but it just happens to be incorrect behavior. Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? Kevin Coombes From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 18:09:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03736; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:09:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26559; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:03:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26553; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:03:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDMGY-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 17:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ericm@walrus.com (Eric Maquiling) Subject: popclient + pine help Date: 8 Nov 1995 17:54:40 GMT Message-Id: <47qqt0$chn@walrus2.walrus.com> Hi everyone, I'm trying to get my mail on my server and reading it on my local Linux box at home. I used poplient and got this error message # message in folder popclient: openmailpipe: exec: No such file or directory reading message #. 5 <----what's this # mean BTW I'm assuming that if popclient works, I could just open pine on my linux box and read and write messages. Any help on this is appreciated eric From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 18:22:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04528; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:22:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27125; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:18:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27119; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:18:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDMVv-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gt1355b@acmey.gatech.edu (Chris) Subject: reply to: Date: 8 Nov 1995 19:15:55 GMT Message-Id: <47qvlb$4f1@catapult.gatech.edu> How do I set a Reply To: field in pine? thanks, chris -- Chris Ricker : gt1355b@prism.gatech.edu : The Georgia Institute o' Technology "I got a threshold, Jules. I got a threshold for the abuse I'll take. And you're crossing it. I'm a race car and you got me in the red. Redline 7000, that's where you are. Just know, it's...dangerous to be drivin' a race car when it's in the red. It could blow." --Vincent Vega-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 18:23:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04581; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:23:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27111; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:18:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27105; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:18:48 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04233; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:16:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:16:48 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Peter Lisker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POSSIBLE TO RESTORE LOST PINE FOLDERS? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Peter, The only *tiny* glimmer of hope I might offer is to poke around in your home directory to see if you have a mail directory somewhere with your missing folders in it. It's a longshot, but there is a small chance that just your Pine config file got trashed, and maybe they are really there but Pine just doesn't know where to look for them. If the folders are really gone, you are at Netcom's mercy, and it is hard to imagine anything that you could do from within Pine that would trash a whole bunch of folders at once. -teg On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Peter Lisker wrote: > A little while ago I was deleting files from my home directory. In the > middle of this I got disconnected. This has been happening for DAYS now > on Netcom (when you are lucky enough to be able to log in). They just say > "sorry if this caused you any inconvenience"). Or it is so S-L-O-W that I > might as well be using a 150 baud modem. > > When I was finally able to log on again I was going to use Pine to > compose a letter of complaint to support@netcom but when I got into Pine > I discovered to my horror that ALL my folders were GONE (except INBOX). > I called netcom Tech support and they told me they COULD do a restore but > they would not do so unless I can prove it's their fault which frankly I > can't say for sure whether it is or not. All I know is these folders are > my life and I need the info contained within. Can anyone offer any > suggestions whether it's technical advice or how I can lean on netcom to > do me the favor of a restore? > > All I know is I am getting really fed up with having to put up with their > technical difficulties and even though this one MIGHT be my fault I plan > to switch providers soon. When I called tech support at midnight I had to > wait 20 minutes to be told no. They were probably swamped with calls from > other Netcom subscribers who have been unable to log on or stay logged on > if they are fortunate to connect. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 18:34:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04876; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:34:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26283; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:29:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26277; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:28:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDMgi-00038HC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin R. Coombes" Subject: Re: PC-PINE and blank messages Date: 8 Nov 1995 21:50:53 GMT Message-Id: <47r8nt$bjk@hecate.umd.edu> References: <47qn1e$4a4@hecate.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I realize it's bad form to follow up your own posting, but I've discovered some additional information about my problem. Readers of the first installment will recall that I'm trying to get the latest version of PC Pine (acquired from the University of Washington in the form of the file pcpine_n.zip) to work on a PC running Novell Netware 4.2. The symptom I described previously is that Pine conects to the remote IMAP server, lists the correct number of messages, but they have blank headers and bodies. While trying to figure out what was going on, I discovered: If new mail arrives while PC Pine is running, then suddenly the mail becomes visible. If the folder is open at the time, then only the new messages are visible. If the folder is closed but Pine is running, then opening the folder will make all the mail visible, both new and old. Has anybody seen this before? Does anyone have any idea what's happening? Thanks again, Kevin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 20:18:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07995; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:18:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29278; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:14:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29272; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:14:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDOMq-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anders@uss-enterprise.bu.edu (Anders M Jorgensen) Subject: How to convert RMAIL folders to Pine Date: 8 Nov 1995 23:39:13 GMT Message-Id: <47rf31$18f@news.bu.edu> Piners, I'm thinking about switching from emacs RMAIL to PINE, but I have many many megabytes of mail saved in RMAIL format. Does anyone know how to convert RMAIL mailboxes back to unix native mailboxes WITHOUT going through every single message in the mailbox and re-saving it to a new mailbox? Also, in the ~/mail directory that PINE creates, is it possible to have subdirectories of additional mailboxes so that you can sort your mailboxes? This is possible with RMAIL, but my short test of PINE did not convince me that it would recognize mailboxes saved in subdirectories of ~/mail. Thanks, Anders -- Anders M. Jorgensen IN:anders@uss-enterprise.bu.edu / anders@bu.edu Center for Space Physics SPAN:BUASTA::ANDERS Boston University Fax +1 617 353 6463 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 20:23:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08089; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:23:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28391; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:19:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28379; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:19:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDOSC-00038HC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:04:34 -0500 Message-Id: References: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 7 Nov 1995 michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de wrote: | As far as I recall it, this is a define in the sources. So only recompiling can change this. | On 7 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: | | > Here's one I haven't figured out, is there a way to reply to a note | > and not have pine add ">" characters at the beginning of the line? | > | > Thanks, Daniel It may not be necessary to recompile Pine, *IF* you are using Unix Pine. I use the shell script below to change the '>' characters to something else when I wish to. This technique works provided you are not already using the alternate editor feature of Pine. To use it, go into Config and enable-alternate-editor. For the alternate editor, specify the shell script. Then just invoke Ctrl-_ to make the change. I am not a sed expert (I got this from someone else), but I suppose you could easily change it to _delete_ the leading '>' rather than just substitute for it. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/csh -f # Above line may be changed for an appropriate shell. # For use on Un*x and Un*x-like systems only. # Change the character(s) in the second set of double quotes # to the desired mail/post-quoting character(s) (after # the second slash). Note that spaces are significant # within each pair of double quotes. sed s/"^> "/"| "/g < $1 > ~/pico.$$ cat ~/pico.$$ > $1 rm ~/pico.$$ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 20:58:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08974; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:58:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29911; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:49:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29905; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:49:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDOuy-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: reply to: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:13:42 -0500 Message-Id: References: <47qvlb$4f1@catapult.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47qvlb$4f1@catapult.gatech.edu> On 8 Nov 1995, Chris wrote: > How do I set a Reply To: field in pine? If you are using Pine 3.91, from the Main Menu go into Setup and Config. Scroll down to customized-hdrs: and add the field you want. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 21:17:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09457; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:17:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29343; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:14:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29331; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:14:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDPGY-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: kermit Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:16:46 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 8 Nov 1995 jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone know how to use and install kermit? I have a disk from > school with kermit on it, but don't know how to install it. > Thanks, > Jill You might try the newsgroup comp.protocols.kermit.misc . Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 21:33:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09825; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:33:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00636; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:29:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00630; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:29:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDPXf-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars Date: 8 Nov 1995 11:47:48 -0800 Message-Id: <47r1h4$pvg@shellx.best.com> References: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> Paul O Bartlett writes: > It may not be necessary to recompile Pine, *IF* you are using Unix >Pine. I use the shell script below to change the '>' characters to >something else when I wish to. This technique works provided you are not >already using the alternate editor feature of Pine. To use it, go into >Config and enable-alternate-editor. For the alternate editor, specify >the shell script. Or just leave the editor setting blank, i.e.: editor= And then when you do ^_ you can specify whatever script or editor you want. >#!/bin/csh -f ># Above line may be changed for an appropriate shell. ># For use on Un*x and Un*x-like systems only. ># Change the character(s) in the second set of double quotes ># to the desired mail/post-quoting character(s) (after ># the second slash). Note that spaces are significant ># within each pair of double quotes. >sed s/"^> "/"| "/g < $1 > ~/pico.$$ >cat ~/pico.$$ > $1 >rm ~/pico.$$ This is very cool - thanks for posting it! -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 21:38:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10016; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:38:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00720; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:34:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00714; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:34:51 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09890; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:34:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:34:47 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Anders M Jorgensen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to convert RMAIL folders to Pine In-Reply-To: <47rf31$18f@news.bu.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Nov 1995, Anders M Jorgensen wrote: > Also, in the ~/mail directory that PINE creates, is it possible to have > subdirectories of additional mailboxes so that you can sort your mailboxes? > This is possible with RMAIL, but my short test of PINE did not convince me > that it would recognize mailboxes saved in subdirectories of ~/mail. Anders, True hierarchical folder support is not yet available (and won't be in 3.92) but is definitely planned for sometime next year. In the meantime, you *can* create folder collections which just happen to be subdirectories of other folder collections, or just set them up as parallel directories. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 22:08:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10776; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:08:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00382; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:04:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00376; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:04:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDQ5V-00038DC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: UIDL support in IPOP3D Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:02:07 -0800 Message-Id: References: <47qi11$s09@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47qi11$s09@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> On 8 Nov 1995, Simon Barnes wrote: > I notice that Netscape v2b2 expects the POP server to have support for > an optional command called UIDL in order to "leave mail on server" (in > fact, I had to switch my Mac off at the wall to prevent it from > deleting all the mail from the server when Netscape found that the UIDL > command didn't exist). Therefore it would be quite convenient if the > UIDL command, documented in RFC1725, could be added to the ipop3d > client shipped with imap-3.5 or -3.6. The UIDL command is supported in the ipop3d client in imap-4. It is impossible to add it to imap-3.x since imap-3.x does not have UID support. Unfortunately, Pine 3.92 will go out with imap-3.6, because it would further delay the already too-long delayed release of 3.92 to upgrade it to imap-4 at this late date (there are *major* interface changes in imap-4). But 3.92 should be the last release that uses any imap-3.x version. In fact, the only reason why imap-3.6 exists at all is for Pine; imap-3.6 will die once Pine no longer needs it. You can run the imapd and ipop[23]d servers from imap-4 with Pine 3.91 and Pine 3.92. In fact, we do that ourselves on several of our servers. We still run the imap-3.6 imapd on our main server, but only because we want to make sure that it still works and doesn't succumb to software rot. ;-) -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 22:19:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11268; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:19:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01553; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:14:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01547; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:14:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDQC9-00038HC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srl@taligent.com (Steven Loomis [Sir Lemon Stove]) Subject: Re: ELM-generated confusion for PINE Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 10:31:29 -0700 Message-Id: References: <47opi9$t07@fcnews.fc.hp.com> In article , srl@taligent.com (Steven Loomis [Sir Lemon Stove]) wrote: > In article <47opi9$t07@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, mullaney@fc.hp.com (David > Mullaney) wrote: > > My work group, runs on HP-UX 9.07, with ELM (70.85) and PINE (3.91). > > When any of my colleagues post an email from ELM, the first paragraph > > (text followed by two or more carriage returns) is replaced with the > > prompt: > > > > Parts/attachments: > > 1 Shown 273 bytes Message > > 1.1 Shown 7 lines Text > > ---------------------------------------- > > ELM, for some wacky reason is making the Content-Type of the top-level > message "Message/rfc822".. This is really bizarre! RFC 1521 states > that Message/rfc822 is for encapsulated messages. text/plain seems to > be a much better choice for the toplevel content-type. I think I have figured this mystery out. Since ELM is claiming that the BODY text of your message is itself another message, PINE (rightly so) is expecting your message to contain headers like To:, From: Date: and so on. The first paragraph of your coworker's message is considered to be the "header" part. It doesn't contain any headers PINE knows about, but that's OK (says pine), i'll just throw the unknown headers out. I did an experiment on the mail that was sent to me. I put "\n\nFoo: bar\n\n" between the "real" headers and the text of his message. (\n is return, of course). Then, the message appeared correctly and the Foo:bar was nowhere in sight. If PINE had a "show full headers" command for encapsulated messages, well then it would work. Like you said, hitting reply is the only way to view it. So to summarize: * this is a bug in HP's ELM -- it's putting the wrong content-type on messages. * pine seems to be working correctly -- although a "show full headers on enclosures" command would be nice. * As a workaround, have your coworker hit return a couple of times so as to leave some blank lines at the top of all messages he sends out. This seems to make pine behave correctly. -- Steven R. Loomis srl@taligent.com Taligent, Inc. Cupertino, California, USA http://www-dcg/srl (Taligent internal) http://www.sj-coop.net/~srl (anywhere else) All opinions are mine only, not Taligent's From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 22:38:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11760; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:38:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00937; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:34:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00929; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:34:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDQWJ-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ken@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (Ken Yap) Subject: building pine3.91 on Solaris2.4 with gcc2.7.0? Message-Id: <47p2i2INNkph@seurat.syd.dit.csiro.au> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:53:06 GMT Has anybody succeeded in doing this? The only thing that doesn't build is pine and this is what happens when I do ./build sol: Making Pine. cc -DSV4 -DDEBUG -ansi -DANSI -c addrbook.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:40, from headers.h:78, from addrbook.c:65: /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:46, from headers.h:78, from addrbook.c:65: /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/unistd.h:225: conflicting types for `rename' /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/stdio.h:153: previous declaration of `rename' cc is a link to gcc. The two occurences of rename in the gcc includes are: /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/stdio.h:extern int rename(const char *, const char *); /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/unistd.h:extern int rename(const char *, const char *); which look consistent to me. I've tried looking for the prototype for rename in the pine code but got lost in a twisty maze of OS dependent files. Any clues? Thanks, Ken ken@syd.dit.csiro.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 22:49:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12031; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:49:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02143; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:44:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02137; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:44:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDQhC-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: haagmans@cobra.unm.edu (Martin Haagmans) Subject: PC-Pine to VMS Host Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 20:56:39 GMT Message-Id: <47r5de$ra6@lynx.unm.edu> I am trying to setup PC-Pine to get mail from a VMS host that runs MultiNet. The problem is the entry for "Folder Collections" I have tried all kinds of variations with no luck. The error message I get is: "Can't connect to cobra.unm.edu,143: Refused (10061) For the "Inbox Path" I have entered: {cobra.unm.edu}newmail. I do have a subdirectory called "mail" on the server in my account. Yes, it is IMAP compliant Has anybody succesfully connected to a VMS host? Martin Haagmans haagmans@cobra.unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 00:15:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13838; Thu, 9 Nov 95 00:15:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02514; Thu, 9 Nov 95 00:09:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02508; Thu, 9 Nov 95 00:09:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDS10-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 00:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Un fleuron du nil Subject: Few Questions Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:22:57 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi guys, I have some questions about pine: 1) what is the format of the command that I have to put in my config file? Usually from my unix shell, I type: text2ps (filename) | lpr -P (printer name) --- to print a text file lpr -P (printer name) (filename) 2) How can I change this sentence which is by default in my reply message: On Nov 8, un fleuron du nil wrote, I saw a lot of people who changed their reply sentences. So I want to change this sentence. Is it possible to do that with pine ???? 3) I will explain the situation: In my addressbook, I have a lot of people who are related to different kind of groups. What I want to do is: If i receive a mail from "person A", and i want to save his mail. I want it to saved automatically in "folder newsgroup" instead of beiing saved in "folder saved-messages". If I receive a mail from "person B", i wanted to be saved in "folder pine-stuff" instead of beiing saved in "folder saved-messages" .... etc ..... "person A" and "person B" are in my addressbook file. How can I configure that so it does it automatically instead of doing each time manually for each mail. thanx in advance rick. ------ R. ACKAD IRC: BoZZo ||| Le SeUl Et L'uNiQuE FlEuRoN McGill University Garfi ||| Du Nil. DiFfIcIlE a TrOuVeR Montreal CANADA Garfield- ||| D'aUtRe. Si J'eN TrOuVe Un ricobey@ee.mcgill.ca ||| AuTrE, Il Ne SeRa PaS Si http://www.ee.mcgill.ca/~ricobey ||| CoOl QuE MoI. HeHeHeHeHeHe http://www.smartec.com/~rico ||| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 01:56:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16291; Thu, 9 Nov 95 01:56:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05000; Thu, 9 Nov 95 01:45:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04994; Thu, 9 Nov 95 01:45:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDTV2-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 01:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu Subject: kermit Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:21:51 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Does anyone know how to use and install kermit? I have a disk from school with kermit on it, but don't know how to install it. Thanks, Jill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 04:33:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20221; Thu, 9 Nov 95 04:33:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05803; Thu, 9 Nov 95 03:55:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05797; Thu, 9 Nov 95 03:55:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDVV0-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 03:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: relkay01@fiu.edu (Ronell (Ron) Elkayam) Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars Date: 9 Nov 1995 03:08:17 GMT Message-Id: <47rrb1$3d7@isis.fiu.edu> References: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On 7 Nov 1995 19:55:18 -0800, James M. Cobb (email: jcobb@ahcbsd1.ovnet.com) posted: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Export the note to your home directory. For simplicity's sake, give > it a one letter filename. > Open the compose message screen. Type in your message. Position > the cursor a few lines below your message. Press control-R, type in > the one-letter filename. The note will appear (with the first line > of the note on the line where you positioned the cursor). Exporting is fine, but it creates a garbage file you have to remember to delete afterwards (or even worse -- to exit pine, delete it, and come back). I personally prefer the method of (F)orwarding the message, entering the person's email address, then removing the unwanted crap on top by hitting ^K a few times. I have very bad memory and I hate checking for temp files. -- W/love, | Owner & Programmer: The People's Voice BBS @ 305-937-6468 | No pregnant women or heart-conditioned senior citizens are Ron | allowed. Under 42 must get parents' permission to call. Miami, FL | "THIS IS WHAT YOUR MOTHER ALWAYS WARNED YOU ABOUT" Don't bother to call... FCC disconnected the line on basis of board being "obscene". New number coming soon! Tapes avail. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 05:02:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21124; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:02:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07841; Thu, 9 Nov 95 04:50:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07835; Thu, 9 Nov 95 04:50:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDWOs-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 04:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Untraceable Messages? [serious question] Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 19:54:39 -0800 Message-Id: References: <47pdb2$5eo@mack.rt66.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47pdb2$5eo@mack.rt66.com> The short answer to your question is that Elm and/or the mailer on your system is misconfigured. The message delimiter line which starts with "From " is not a From: header line. Furthermore, a From: line is required in all RFC-822 messages. Elm on your system is configured not to generate a From: header, apparently assuming that the mailer will insert the missing header. The mailer on your system is configured not to generate missing From: headers, apparently assuming that no user mail programs would neglect to write proper From: headers. Correcting either of these behaviors will fix the problem. On 7 Nov 1995, Mr. Sarang Gupta wrote: > In article , > Matteo Mainetti wrote: > >Is it possible to change the "from:" part of an outgoing message > >in such a way that there is no way to recover the real sender ? > > On our work system, if you use ELM to send someone a message, the From > line looks like: > > **From sgupta Wed Dec 15 1996 [etc] > > except without the two astericks (I just added those to prevent > confusion). Pine ignores this From line and the message appears to > come from a mysterious unknown user. While this is cute for roughly 10 > seconds, it can also be quite annoying ("hey, why are you sending me > anonymous mail and then signing it?") especially since the Reply > command doesn't work properly ("no valid receipients for this message" > or whatever). > > So, the answer to your question is: "Use ELM and hope the receiver > uses Pine"... but my question is: "OK, it's cute.. now, how do I get > around it?" > > Sarang (proveit@rt66.com) > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 06:02:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22512; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:02:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07713; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:50:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07707; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:50:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDXME-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scott.crittenden@megasystem.com (Scott Crittenden) Subject: Compiling v3.91 on Solari Message-Id: <215.4856.3079@megasystem.com> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 21:28:00 -0800 Greetings! I'm having some difficulty compiling Pine 3.91 on my Solaris2.4 x86 machine. I'm using Solaris' cc. Pico, imap, etc. all compile fine but I get multiple 'idnetifyer redeclared' errors in addrbook.c. For example: "usr/include/stdlib/h", line 142: indentifyer redeclared: getsubopt current: function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int previous: function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to const pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int : "usr/include/stdio.h", line 285 The other errors are similar, just different function names (rename, etc.) Anyone know what's up? TIA! Scott Crittenden scott@intercomm.com scott@megasystem.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internet: scott.crittenden@megasystem.com (Scott Crittenden) This message was processed by NetXpress from Merlin Systems Inc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 06:04:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22614; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:04:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07787; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:56:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07781; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:56:41 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA14754 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:54:39 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA18920 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:56:15 +0300 (OET) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:57:04 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Qouted-printable forever? X-Sender: bor@itsmx1.mow.sni.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks! Sorry if I make the old question - I am new to Pine community. i am using Pine (3.91) for some time and find it really nice. But one thing: Pine seems to always encode 8bit text in qouted-printable. The problem is, not all are using MIME (I have friends with FIDO Mailboxes - how they are supposed to read it?) As Internet now-a-days is more or less 8bit clean, is it possible to just send clean 8bit text? To make it clear - I have to write in Russian, which is _all_ 8 bit so the text in QP is _totally_ unreadable -:) It would be nice to do it on per-message basis, or at least just switch it off completely. Thanks for any hint ------------------------------------------------------------ Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 06:42:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23487; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:42:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09342; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:35:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09336; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:35:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDY4H-00038HC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jordan S. Gussin" Subject: Printing Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:20:26 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How come I can't print anything off of Pine? I am using a HP Desk jet 500 printer. How in the world can I make this work? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 07:14:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24473; Thu, 9 Nov 95 07:14:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08939; Thu, 9 Nov 95 07:05:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08933; Thu, 9 Nov 95 07:05:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDYVj-00038HC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 07:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: POSSIBLE TO RESTORE LOST PINE FOLDERS? Date: 8 Nov 1995 23:06:41 -0800 Message-Id: <47s9a1$hns@shellx.best.com> References: plisker@netcom.com (Peter Lisker) writes: >I discovered to my horror that ALL my folders were GONE (except INBOX). >I called netcom Tech support and they told me they COULD do a restore but >they would not do so unless I can prove it's their fault which frankly I >can't say for sure whether it is or not. All I know is these folders are >my life and I need the info contained within. Can anyone offer any >suggestions whether it's technical advice or how I can lean on netcom to >do me the favor of a restore? Even if you are able to talk them into doing a restore for you, this is an unacceptable response from them (unless you regularly have them do restores) and if I were you, I'd start making plans to switch providers. About a month ago I accidentally deleted a couple files from my account at halcyon.com and I asked them to restore them for me. They did it quickly and professionally without any complaints or chastisement. There are plenty of good providers out there and there's no reason to put up with this type of customer "support." Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 08:50:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27821; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:50:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11897; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:40:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11891; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:40:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDa18-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: how to install pine? Date: 9 Nov 95 04:45:11 GMT Message-Id: References: <47qaieINN9es@cicg-communication.grenet.fr> thouveni@cicg-communication.grenet.fr (Frederic Thouvenin) writes: >We already found that pine is availble from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine >But how can we transfer it?? Most web browsers can transfer files. Just give the URL. Or use ftp. Better yet, get "ncftp" to do transfers. Use a transfer program to get it... Sven -- Have I Been Trolled? -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 08:58:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28304; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:58:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11220; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:41:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11214; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:41:27 -0800 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA14072; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:36:31 -0600 Received: by Cookie.secapl.com id AA176807 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:42:37 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:42:37 -0600 (CST) From: Carla Golden To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: kermit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you still need help you can e-mail me, I work with kermit and I can send you some info. On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Wed, 8 Nov 1995 jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu wrote: > > > Hi, > > Does anyone know how to use and install kermit? I have a disk from > > school with kermit on it, but don't know how to install it. > > Thanks, > > Jill > > You might try the newsgroup comp.protocols.kermit.misc . > > Paul > -------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett > P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. > Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key > -------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 10:19:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03212; Thu, 9 Nov 95 10:19:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13993; Thu, 9 Nov 95 10:11:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13987; Thu, 9 Nov 95 10:11:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDbNm-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 10:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jel@swlrbd.msd.ray.com (John Laundree{79236}) Subject: Registered mail Date: 6 Nov 1995 18:07:18 GMT Message-Id: <47lism$54b@swlab1.msd.ray.com> Hi! I am a new pine user and this may be a relatively simple question, although I could not find the info I need at the washington site. I would like to send email and when it is read by the recipient, I would like the originator to be notfied. (just like registered mail of the postal system) Can pine do this? What type of flag or settings do I need. Thanks, John Laundree jel@swl.msd.ray.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 11:39:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07018; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:39:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16386; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:32:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16376; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:32:35 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Thu, 9 Nov 95 20:32 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Thu, 9 Nov 95 20:32 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 9 Nov 95 20:32 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 9 Nov 95 20:32 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Registered mail To: jel@swlrbd.msd.ray.com (John Laundree{79236}) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:32:19 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <47lism$54b@swlab1.msd.ray.com> from "John Laundree{79236}" at Nov 6, 95 06:07:18 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 594 Quoting John Laundree{79236}: > I would like to send email and when it is read by the recipient, I would > like the originator to be notfied. (just like registered mail of the postal > system) Can pine do this? What type of flag or settings do I need. Every mail can be sent with a Return-Receipt-To which will give you a return mail when the receiving MTA has delivered the mail to the mailbox. But there is no may to tell whether a person has read a mail. Forget it! Read this page and you may understand: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.reading.acknowledgement.html Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 12:11:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08642; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:11:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17690; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:51:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17681; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:51:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDcwz-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: reply to: Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 17:20:23 +0100 Message-Id: References: <47qvlb$4f1@catapult.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47qvlb$4f1@catapult.gatech.edu> On 8 Nov 1995, Chris wrote: > How do I set a Reply To: field in pine? Set the field in your config screen (customized headers). Bye. Ralf *Die Wege des Herrn sind untergruendig...aehhh...unergruendlich* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 12:24:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09590; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:24:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16944; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:56:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16938; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:56:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDd4X-00038KC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gras Regis Subject: Q: How to discard automatically certain mail ? Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:55:57 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does somebody know a method to discard automatically certain mail ? On our site, we receive a lot of "undesirable" messages. It is possible to configure pine to eliminate these messages ? (With or without response) Any info would be great. *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Regis Gras | Tel (33) 76 82 62 60 * * Laboratoire CEPHAG | ou (33) 76 82 64 26 * * ENSIEG, Rue de la Houille Blanche BP 46 | Fax (33) 76 82 63 84 * * 38402 Saint Martin d'Heres CEDEX, France | e-mail gras@cephag.observ-gr.fr* *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 12:34:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10271; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:34:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18393; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:16:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18387; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:16:29 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09059; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:16:12 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:16:11 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Martin Haagmans Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine to VMS Host In-Reply-To: <47r5de$ra6@lynx.unm.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Martin, Try "telnet cobra.unm.edu 143" and you will see that Cobra is not, in fact, "IMAP compliant"... -teg On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Martin Haagmans wrote: > I am trying to setup PC-Pine to get mail from a VMS host that > runs MultiNet. The problem is the entry for "Folder Collections" I > have tried all kinds of variations with no luck. > The error message I get is: > "Can't connect to cobra.unm.edu,143: Refused (10061) > For the "Inbox Path" I have entered: {cobra.unm.edu}newmail. > I do have a subdirectory called "mail" on the server in my account. > Yes, it is IMAP compliant > Has anybody succesfully connected to a VMS host? > > Martin Haagmans > haagmans@cobra.unm.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 13:43:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13792; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:43:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19436; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:16:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19430; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:16:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDeK0-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ha1jco@orac.sunderland.ac.uk (jennifer.coutts) Subject: Pine leftovers!?! Date: 9 Nov 1995 14:00:27 -0000 Message-Id: <47t1hr$8fa@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> I keep getting files called .pine-debug1,2,3, etc. left over after quitting Pine. Have I inadvertently switched into a 'debug' mode, and if so how do I switch back out again? Ta! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 13:44:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13882; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:44:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20170; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:16:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20164; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:16:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDeJb-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: username_i@dep.state.fl.us (Your Name) Subject: forward as a batch? Date: 8 Nov 1995 13:53:32 GMT Message-Id: <47qcos$4fo@epic68.dep.state.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 As an example, I receive about 10 messages from one listserv that I would like to forward to my office email or a friend's email. Is it possible to send all 10 at once, rather than individually forwarding them? I can sort first by 'from' or 'subject' and that would place them all together in the index. TIA jeanxyz@freenet.scri.fsu.edu youland_j@dep.state.fl.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 14:32:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16598; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:32:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21146; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:21:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21140; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:21:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDfJt-00038HC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Walter E. Dence, Jr." Subject: [Yes], but no AddressBook with Ctrl-T Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:33:13 GMT When I'm in the "To" field of a header, and press ^T, Pine just says [Yes]. I expected it to jump into my .addressbook and to then allow me to insert an address. Is there something I need to do in configure? I'm using Pine 3.91 on a Sun4. Thanks, Walt Dence ===================================================================== WALTER E. DENCE, JR. Data Acquisition Specialist Mine Electronic Design Branch, Code 2610 Commander, Dahlgren Division Office (WO): 301-394-1707 Naval Surface Warfare Center Office VoiceMail (PC): 904-234-4079 Coastal Systems Station Fax: 301-394-4510 Code 2610 (W. Dence) DSN (AutoVoN): 290-1707 10901 New Hampshire Ave. EMail: wdence@relay.nswc.navy.mil Silver Spring, MD 20903-5640 Home: 301-229-7394 (This is personal opinion, not official opinion.) Science is a baloney detector ---Carl Sagan ===================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 14:33:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16655; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:33:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21797; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:21:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21790; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:21:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDfHj-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae197@torfree.net (Ka Y. Lam) Subject: Pine & Procmail & lockfile Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:18:20 GMT Hello, I want to use procmail with pine. The question I have is, how pine handle lockfile? I mean, does it care at all if there is a lock file exist for a incoming folder? -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Ka Lam Internet Addresses: n/a | | E-mail Address: ae197@freenet.toronto.on.ca | | or Ka.Lam@boardbob.tor250.org | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 14:34:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16812; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:34:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21413; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:07:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kcmetro.cc.mo.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21229; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:02:06 -0800 Received: by kcmetro.cc.mo.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16918; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:57:21 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:57:19 -0600 (CST) From: Edward Soldanels Reply-To: Edward Soldanels To: pine-info List , AIX-L List Subject: Running pine under Rsh restricted shell Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am sending this question to two lists: AIX-L and Pine-Info. Does anyone know what changes need to be made to allow the pine mail program to work properly in a restricted shell (Rsh) on an IBM RS6000 running AIX 3.2? I can get pine to receive e-mail, but not to send. I have tried running pine in debug mode, but the debug log does not indicate that there are any problems, yet the mail is not delivered. I can change to a different shell (ksh), then pine works fine. Edward Soldanels soldanels@kcmetro.cc.mo.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 15:49:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20252; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:49:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24025; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:36:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24019; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:36:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDgTN-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eli@cal44a034.student.utwente.nl (Eli-Jean R. Leyssens) Subject: Other user name in From: line Date: 9 Nov 1995 16:28:12 GMT Message-Id: <47ta6s$ahs@driene.student.utwente.nl> If I send a mail using pine from my machine now the From: line becomes eli@BugHunter.student.utwente.nl but I would like it to be e.j.r.leyssens@student.utwente.nl Changing the user-domain from BugHunter.student.utwente.nl into student.utwente.nl isn't a problem, just change the user-domain= line in .pinerc I am however unable to change the user-name, nothing in the .pinerc file looks to be able to help me out nor does 'man pine'. Any help would be grately appreciated. Greetz, Eli-Jean P.S. if you would like to reply to this via email, please use e.j.r.leyssens@student.utwente.nl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 15:49:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20282; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:49:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23511; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:36:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23504; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:36:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDgUe-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: raskin@aoml.noaa.gov (Craig Raskin) Subject: pine and mh format Date: 9 Nov 1995 12:29:04 GMT Message-Id: <47ss6g$h9n@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Does anyone know if pine can support messages saved in mh format? Please respond via mail. Thanks in advance. -- ************************************************************************** Craig Raskin, raskin@aoml.noaa.gov "The optimist proclaims that we live Unix System Administrator in the best of all possible worlds, U.S. Dept. Of Commerce and the pessimist fears that this NOAA/AOML, Miami Fl. is true." -- James Branch Cabell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 17:08:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24975; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:08:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26317; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:02:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26311; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:02:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDhqX-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: epsilon Subject: Missing body -- only QUIT ! Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:33:32 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine is acting up on me these days. Some mails come to me with a missing body and only a header. I have also observed < QUIT > appended to some messages I get where no such were there before. Any ideas what caused this to happen, and - before I forget - any remedies ? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 17:18:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25366; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:18:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26438; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:12:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26432; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:12:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDhvo-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Export (was: Re: Reply without ">" chars) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:53:58 -0500 Message-Id: References: <47rrb1$3d7@isis.fiu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47rrb1$3d7@isis.fiu.edu> [Somebody else wrote:] > Export the note to your home directory. For simplicity's sake, give > it a one letter filename. There seems to be a possible bug in Unix Pine 3.91. Whenever I export a message to a file, the current date and time get appended to the first line, so that I have to edit out the trash. Inconvenient. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 17:19:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25413; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:19:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26801; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:12:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26791; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:12:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDhw8-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Q: How to discard automatically certain mail ? Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:01:36 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 9 Nov 1995, Gras Regis wrote: > Does somebody know a method to discard automatically certain mail ? > On our site, we receive a lot of "undesirable" messages. > It is possible to configure pine to eliminate these messages ? > (With or without response) > Any info would be great. Pine by itself will not do this. You have to use some other program which will preprocess the mail before Pine gets hold of it. On Unix systems, procmail and (elm) filter are commonly used. Nancy McGough has some good material on this on her World Wide Web pages, if you can get to them. As a starting point, look at URL: http://www/jazzie.com/ii/internet/pine.html URL: http://www/best.com/~ii/internet/pine.html (Nancy, please correct me if I'm wrong.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 19:17:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28888; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:17:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29185; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:12:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29173; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:12:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDjrm-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: forward as a batch? Date: 9 Nov 95 19:25:02 GMT Message-Id: References: <47qcos$4fo@epic68.dep.state.fl.us> username_i@dep.state.fl.us (Your Name) writes: >As an example, I receive about 10 messages from one listserv that I would >like to forward to my office email or a friend's email. Is it possible >to send all 10 at once, rather than individually forwarding them? Save all to a file. Compress file. Send file as an attachment. Something like "gzip file | uuencode | mail address". Only do this with people who know how to unpack a compressed file. Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 19:27:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29033; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:27:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29349; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:22:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29343; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:22:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDk1K-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elmer@wpi.edu (Andrew Toppan) Subject: Re: Export (was: Re: Reply without ">" chars) Date: 9 Nov 1995 19:10:01 GMT Message-Id: <47tjm9$231@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: <47rrb1$3d7@isis.fiu.edu> Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) reshaped the electrons to say: : There seems to be a possible bug in Unix Pine 3.91. Whenever I : export a message to a file, the current date and time get appended to : the first line, so that I have to edit out the trash. Inconvenient. Must be a local problem with your site. I've never noticed it. -- Andrew Toppan --- elmer@wpi.edu --- http://www.wpi.edu/~elmer/ Railroads, Ships and Aircraft Homepage, Tom Clancy FAQ Archive "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 19:28:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29073; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:28:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28902; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:22:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28896; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:22:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDjzC-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: kermit Date: 9 Nov 1995 18:04:26 -0800 Message-Id: <47ubva$79d@shellx.best.com> References: jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu writes: >Does anyone know how to use and install kermit? I have a disk from >school with kermit on it, but don't know how to install it. If it's Kermit for DOS, I have instructions for using it to download files at: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/kermit_transfers.txt Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 20:02:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00174; Thu, 9 Nov 95 20:02:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29446; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:57:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29440; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:57:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDkWQ-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: aliases for starting pine Date: 9 Nov 1995 13:17:13 -0800 Message-Id: <47tr4p$7l7@shellx.best.com> I just cleaned up my Pine aliases and thought they might be useful to some of you. Here they are. Feedback is welcome! ---begin nancym's pine aliases--- alias pine "\pine -d0" #create 0 debug files # If you compartmentalize your pinerc, use something like the following ### alias pine "\pine -d0 -P $HOME/Pine/pinerc.generic -p $HOME/Pine/pinerc.hos t" alias pi "pine -i" #index of inbox alias pl "pine -I l" #list folders alias plt "pine -I l -sort orderedsubj" #list and thread folders alias pg "pine -I g" #go alias pa "pine -I a" #addressbook alias pc "pine -I c" #compose alias psc "pine -I 's,c'" #setup config # Next depend on organization of your incoming-folders and folder-collections # I use ~/Folders for default saves and ~/MailLists for mailing list archives # NOTE: ^N below means CTRL+N - in vi you enter it by typing ^V^N alias pgf "pine -I 'g,^N,^T'" #go to Folders alias pgml "pine -I 'g,^N,^N,^T'" #go to MailLists alias pgmlt "pine -I 'g,^N,^N,^T' -sort orderedsubj" #go to MailLists, thread #I often look at these folders. (Instead of sent-mail I use Mailed) alias pm "pine -if Mailed" alias pp "pine -if Posted" alias pr "pine -if Received" ---end nancym's pine aliases--- These aliases and lots more info about Pine is available at my Pine Web page: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/pine/ Or its mirror: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/pine/ Please send me any suggestions and comments. Also, if any knows where I could find a copy of the pine icon that's used for PC Pine for Windows, please tell me - I'd like to put it on my Pine page. Thanks! Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 21:38:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02449; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:38:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01560; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:32:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01552; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:32:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDm0R-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il (Yehavi Bourvine (58-4279)) Subject: Re: PC-Pine to VMS Host Message-Id: <1995Nov10.065346.1@vms.huji.ac.il> Date: 10 Nov 95 06:53:46 GMT References: <47r5de$ra6@lynx.unm.edu> In article <47r5de$ra6@lynx.unm.edu>, haagmans@cobra.unm.edu (Martin Haagmans) writes: > I am trying to setup PC-Pine to get mail from a VMS host that > runs MultiNet. The problem is the entry for "Folder Collections" I > have tried all kinds of variations with no luck. > The error message I get is: > "Can't connect to cobra.unm.edu,143: Refused (10061) > For the "Inbox Path" I have entered: {cobra.unm.edu}newmail. > I do have a subdirectory called "mail" on the server in my account. > Yes, it is IMAP compliant Multinet supports POP, not IMAP server. You should have IMAP server with either PMDF of the public domain version available from VMS.HUJI.AC.IL. In the latter, you need the 3.89 version (the 3.91 IMAP server was not modified yet to VMS). __YEhavi: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 21:40:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02509; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:40:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01064; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:37:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01058; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:37:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDm5v-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cn1491@coastalnet.com (Shannon Adams) Subject: Can PC Pine talk to UNIX Pine? Date: 10 Nov 1995 05:00:27 GMT Message-Id: <47um9b$ivh@treasure.coastalnet.com> We have fifty users out in the field with laptops. I need to give these users access to Internet e-mail. Inside, we use Pine 3.91 and have an Internet connection. Pine is running on a Data General Aviion box. Is it possible to load PC pine on the laptops and have the users dial in and pickup and deliver e-mail? I would set up user accounts for each field users and have a script automatically log them in and exchange mail and hangup. Can anyone give me some suggestions on whether this can be done? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 22:02:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03132; Thu, 9 Nov 95 22:02:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02093; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:57:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02087; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:57:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDmS7-00038LC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 21:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Glenn Ferren Subject: mail doesn't deliver Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:59:07 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: returned mail: Cannot send message for three days. (one of the msgs associated with undeliverable pine/unix mail) Another is "not a local host"... Where would I begin to look to determine the cause of failed deliveries to local and wan addresses...hosts on my subnet and hosts on other corporate subnets? The addresses are good and can be pinged. Appreciate any pointers. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 23:05:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04464; Thu, 9 Nov 95 23:05:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02962; Thu, 9 Nov 95 22:52:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02954; Thu, 9 Nov 95 22:52:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDnGM-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 22:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mathias@merlion.singnet.com.sg (Mathias Koerber) Subject: Re: Features requested for next version Date: 10 Nov 1995 06:03:52 GMT Message-Id: <47uq08$pq1@lantana.singnet.com.sg> References: Ted Stern (stern@amath.washington.edu) wrote: : I would like to see the following features in a future version of Pine: : 1) There should be some way to enable rich header in Compose by default : instead of having to hit ^R every time. : 2) There should be a way to switch to viewing mail in alternate mode : instead of just inside pine, similar to the way an alternate editor : in composition is enabled. For some people, moving around a file : using "view", for example, is much easier than using Pine commands. one more: 4) show the FCC by default in the address book. It's so hard to figure out which aliases have agood FCC and which don't. Or allow us to select which fields the address book is to show (some folx have wide screens, ya know?).. Thx and cheers : Thanks, : =========================================> University of Washington : Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Applied Mathematics Dept. : stern@amath.washington.edu Box 352420 : http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195-2420 -- Mathias Koerber mathias@singnet.com.sg SingNet NOC Mathias_Koerber@POBOX.ORG.SG Singapore Telecoms * Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mit Eifer sucht was Leiden schafft * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 23:05:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04525; Thu, 9 Nov 95 23:05:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02365; Thu, 9 Nov 95 22:52:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02357; Thu, 9 Nov 95 22:52:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDnFi-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 22:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mathias@merlion.singnet.com.sg (Mathias Koerber) Subject: Re: Features requested for next version Date: 10 Nov 1995 06:01:54 GMT Message-Id: <47upsi$pq1@lantana.singnet.com.sg> References: Ted Stern (stern@amath.washington.edu) wrote: : I would like to see the following features in a future version of Pine: : 1) There should be some way to enable rich header in Compose by default : instead of having to hit ^R every time. : 2) There should be a way to switch to viewing mail in alternate mode : instead of just inside pine, similar to the way an alternate editor : in composition is enabled. For some people, moving around a file : using "view", for example, is much easier than using Pine commands. 3) There should be a way to add any header wanted in compose w/o having to put it into the rich header/default header set. Not all outgoing mails need some headers, but some do (like fax etc). This is the biggest misfeature that makes me go back to elm. : Thanks, : =========================================> University of Washington : Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Applied Mathematics Dept. : stern@amath.washington.edu Box 352420 : http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195-2420 -- Mathias Koerber mathias@singnet.com.sg SingNet NOC Mathias_Koerber@POBOX.ORG.SG Singapore Telecoms * Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mit Eifer sucht was Leiden schafft * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 23:44:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05294; Thu, 9 Nov 95 23:44:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03591; Thu, 9 Nov 95 23:40:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kuhub.cc.ukans.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03585; Thu, 9 Nov 95 23:40:48 -0800 Received: from falcon.cc.ukans.edu by KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (PMDF V5.0-5 #13311) id <01HXGLHBO0ZK8WX151@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 01:40:40 -0600 (CST) Received: by falcon.cc.ukans.edu; id AA20228; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 01:40:48 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 01:40:48 -0600 (CST) From: MCVEY Subject: questions To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: MCVEY Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I am confused as to why my mail is being returned. For example I am trying to mail cnas-news@seatimes.com what is wrong? Thanks so much Amy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 00:52:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06612; Fri, 10 Nov 95 00:52:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04044; Fri, 10 Nov 95 00:48:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04038; Fri, 10 Nov 95 00:48:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDp7l-00038IC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 00:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ron@devi.rtvf.nwu.edu (Ron Small) Subject: Pine binary for SGI Irix Date: 10 Nov 1995 00:18:57 GMT Message-Id: Hi, Can anyone tell me where I can download an SGI compatible version of Pine (compiled as a binary). I checked the main Pine ftp site, but didn't find any binaries that were compatible with SGI Irix. Thanks for any info. If replying by e-mail, please respond to roon48@aol.com. ______________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ Ron Small Rational Graphics Inc Chicago, USA ____________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 01:27:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07463; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:27:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05016; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:20:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05010; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:20:28 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:18:39 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA04115; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:19:42 GMT Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:19:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Your Name Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forward as a batch? In-Reply-To: <47qcos$4fo@epic68.dep.state.fl.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes it is possible. You need to use the "Select" and "Apply" commands... In Pine 3.91 go into the Setup (S) Configuration (C) screen. Turn on the "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature. Return to the folder index. Use the Select (;) command to choose the messages you want to operate on. Use the Apply (A) command, followed by the command you want to apply to the selected messages. (As an aside, you can also use the Zoom (Z) command to temporarily hide the other, unselected messages. Another Zoom will display them again.) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 8 Nov 1995, Your Name wrote: > As an example, I receive about 10 messages from one listserv that I would > like to forward to my office email or a friend's email. Is it possible > to send all 10 at once, rather than individually forwarding them? I can > sort first by 'from' or 'subject' and that would place them all together > in the index. > > TIA jeanxyz@freenet.scri.fsu.edu > youland_j@dep.state.fl.us > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 01:28:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07502; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:28:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04562; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:24:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04556; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:24:08 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:22:54 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA04557; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:23:34 GMT Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:23:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "jennifer.coutts" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine leftovers!?! In-Reply-To: <47t1hr$8fa@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It sounds like you are either using one of the pre-compiled binaries available on the Net, or are using a version compiled locally with the '-DDEBUG' C flag left in. These default to producing the .pine.debug[1-4] files. You can stop them from being generated by starting Pine with the '-d 0' command line option (it tells you this in the man page for Pine). A better solution is to get the source code for Pine and recompile it without the '-DDEBUG' C flag. This will cause the debug code to be omitted from the binary. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 9 Nov 1995, jennifer.coutts wrote: > > I keep getting files called .pine-debug1,2,3, etc. left over after > quitting Pine. Have I inadvertently switched into a 'debug' mode, and if > so how do I switch back out again? > > Ta! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 01:34:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08003; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:34:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04616; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:28:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04610; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:28:21 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:25:27 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA05028; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:26:49 GMT Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 09:26:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Craig Raskin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine and mh format In-Reply-To: <47ss6g$h9n@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes it can. You can find out some information by going to the Setup (S) Configuration (C) screen. Put the cursor on the "inbox-path" item and ask for help (see the menu at the bottom of the screen). This includes a reference of to additional help in the List Folders screen (Press "L" then ask for help with "?". Either read through, or search for the string "Valid Folder Names" by typing "W Valid Folder Names".) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 9 Nov 1995, Craig Raskin wrote: > Does anyone know if pine can support messages saved in mh format? Please > respond via mail. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > ************************************************************************** > Craig Raskin, raskin@aoml.noaa.gov "The optimist proclaims that we live > Unix System Administrator in the best of all possible worlds, > U.S. Dept. Of Commerce and the pessimist fears that this > NOAA/AOML, Miami Fl. is true." -- James Branch Cabell > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 01:40:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08187; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:40:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05230; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:33:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05224; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:33:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDpp8-00038DC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 01:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gli@gold.interlog.com (Godfrey Lam) Subject: Read the message with same subject. Date: 10 Nov 1995 02:14:50 GMT Message-Id: <47uciq$2he@steel.interlog.com> Hi, Can I able to read all the messages with the same subject? Then go on and read the messages with a different subject in the IN folder. If yes, please show me how. Godfrey gli@interlog.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 03:11:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09883; Fri, 10 Nov 95 03:11:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06445; Fri, 10 Nov 95 03:03:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06439; Fri, 10 Nov 95 03:03:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDrCv-00038DC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 03:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Pico mystery... Date: 7 Nov 1995 14:58:26 GMT Message-Id: <47ns6i$fbf@guava.epix.net> References: <47kh0t$b6g@news2.cts.com> Simone Shoemaker (simone@crash.cts.com) wrote: : I edited a few files in pico, in my home directory. I know they are : there, because I can recall them with ^R as long as I remember their name. : The latter is sometimes a problem. : But when I ask to see a list of my files (from the unix promt I changed : to my home directory and asked "ls", it lists all kinds of weird stuff : I've never heard of, but none of my files. You were obviously not in the correct directory, or possibly if you were looking for a hidden file (such as .newsrc for example) the ls command will not show .files ... : So, where are they? How can I see them listed? After you type ^R, if you can't remember the filename type ^T to bring up a list of files. : P.S. Last time I tried the "ls" command I actually DID see my files : listed. Today, it gave me a bunch of other stuff instead. Is my computer : going nuts? Nope, that just proves that you were in a different directory on each of those 2 occasions. Hope this helps. G'Day. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 03:14:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09946; Fri, 10 Nov 95 03:14:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05906; Fri, 10 Nov 95 03:03:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05900; Fri, 10 Nov 95 03:03:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDrCd-00038BC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 03:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: sender's address incorrect Date: 7 Nov 1995 14:51:18 GMT Message-Id: <47nrp6$fbf@guava.epix.net> References: <47lqo8$auc@emngw1.eastman.com> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : The "To: myaddress" is only shown if you sent the message, or if there : is no valid sender's address in the message. In the latter case, Pine : has no way to know where to send a reply... : On 6 Nov 1995 yky356@emn.com wrote: : > When I view messages in the current folder (the I option), some of the : > sender's address are not shown correctly. Instead, the "To: myaddress" : > is shown. This only happens to some but not all e-mail. ... etc ... Sorry David, but it *DOES* happen sometimes for other unexplainable reasons, not always, and not always with the same folders or messages ... As near as I can figure out, it's not PINE doing this, it's the mail server or in my case as a dial-up pc to a unix server, possibly some noise in the phone line ??? I don't know, but it DOES happen. G'Day. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 04:54:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12832; Fri, 10 Nov 95 04:54:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07499; Fri, 10 Nov 95 04:40:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07493; Fri, 10 Nov 95 04:40:29 -0800 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA18448; Fri, 10 Nov 95 13:36:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:36:03 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Ron Small Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine binary for SGI Irix In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_(=DATIA)_AV_=C8R?= Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Read-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On 10 Nov 1995, Ron Small wrote: > Can anyone tell me where I can download an SGI compatible version of Pine > (compiled as a binary). I checked the main Pine ftp site, but didn't find > any binaries that were compatible with SGI Irix. ftp.utia.cas.cz:/pub/unix/unix-binary/SGI-indy/pine3.91.tar.gz | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladimír Solnický using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 07:01:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15688; Fri, 10 Nov 95 07:01:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09216; Fri, 10 Nov 95 06:38:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.54.1.18] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09210; Fri, 10 Nov 95 06:38:29 -0800 Received: by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in; (5.65/1.1.8.2/31Jul95-0643PM) id AA11308; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:08:20 GMT Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:08:20 +0000 (GMT) From: MR ASIT V SHAH To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: attachment query Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to have some information about appended files with the E-mail. I have had an instance where I was sent a mail and along with it was an unencoded .xls file. Now I would like to know how can I read this Excel file. I tried to read directly through Excel but gave me in text format only. So if you know please send the related info. Thanks Asit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 08:35:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18218; Fri, 10 Nov 95 08:35:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11583; Fri, 10 Nov 95 08:26:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11577; Fri, 10 Nov 95 08:26:38 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17853; Fri, 10 Nov 95 08:26:33 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 08:26:33 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Mathias Koerber Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Features requested for next version In-Reply-To: <47upsi$pq1@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > 3) There should be a way to add any header wanted in compose w/o having to > put it into the rich header/default header set. Not all outgoing mails > need some headers, but some do (like fax etc). > This is the biggest misfeature that makes me go back to elm. If you just put the header name, but no value for it, in the custom header list, you can fill in the value at compose time, but if you don't, the (empty) header will not be included in the message. Is this not sufficient? -teg p.s. Your and Ted's other requests will be in 3.92. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 08:37:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18286; Fri, 10 Nov 95 08:37:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10801; Fri, 10 Nov 95 08:22:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10785; Fri, 10 Nov 95 08:21:52 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:14:15 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA08894; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:15:00 GMT Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:14:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Godfrey Lam Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Read the message with same subject. In-Reply-To: <47uciq$2he@steel.interlog.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In the Folder Index... $ O ... Sort the folder ($) by Ordered Subject (O) ... Now read through the messages. Ordered Subject sorts first by Subject line, then by Date (so as to get messages with the same subject in chronological order). This works for Usenet News folders too, to provide a form of threading. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 10 Nov 1995, Godfrey Lam wrote: > > Hi, > Can I able to read all the messages with the same subject? Then go on > and read the messages with a different subject in the IN folder. If yes, > please show me how. > > Godfrey > gli@interlog.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 09:51:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21145; Fri, 10 Nov 95 09:51:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13290; Fri, 10 Nov 95 09:44:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13284; Fri, 10 Nov 95 09:44:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDxUj-00038CC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 09:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: questions Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:57:00 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 9 Nov 1995, MCVEY wrote: > I am confused as to why my mail is being returned. For example I am > trying to mail cnas-news@seatimes.com > > what is wrong? > Thanks so much > Amy Please provide more information. Just what are you getting back that makes you think your mail is being returned? Without more details, it might be almost impossible to answer your question. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 11:55:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25271; Fri, 10 Nov 95 11:55:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15642; Fri, 10 Nov 95 11:45:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15636; Fri, 10 Nov 95 11:45:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDzKZ-00038CC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 11:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: [announce] ELM vs Pine - a comparison Date: 10 Nov 95 18:46:43 GMT Message-Id: ELM vs Pine - a comparison http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mail/elm.vs.pine.html aka http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mail/pine.vs.elm.html This page is a comparison of ELM 2.4 PL24 and PINE 3.91. It is by no means a full comparison yet. I have just started writing it. Please send me your ideas! Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 11:55:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25305; Fri, 10 Nov 95 11:55:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15597; Fri, 10 Nov 95 11:43:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15591; Fri, 10 Nov 95 11:43:53 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA13461 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:43:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:33:39 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Shannon Adams Subject: Re: Can PC Pine talk to UNIX Pine? In-Reply-To: <47um9b$ivh@treasure.coastalnet.com> Message-Id: Organisation: VANDERHORN VOF Address: Oranjelaan 40 City: 3135 ZP Vlaardingen Country: The Netherlands Voice: +31 10 4600411 Fax: +31 10 4342857 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Nov 1995, Shannon Adams wrote: > We have fifty users out in the field with laptops. I need to give these > users access to Internet e-mail. Inside, we use Pine 3.91 and have an > Internet connection. Pine is running on a Data General Aviion box. > > Is it possible to load PC pine on the laptops and have the users dial > in and pickup and deliver e-mail? I would set up user accounts for > each field users and have a script automatically log them in and > exchange mail and hangup. > > Can anyone give me some suggestions on whether this can be done? Thanks. We have a comparable setup, but we are using Kendra's UUPC (a UUCP implementation for DOS). We also want to use PC-Pine as the MUA, therefore I posted twice on this list. Unfortunately nobody gave a response until now. If somebody on this Pine list knows how to use PC-Pine with UUPC, please respond. We like the setup with UUCP, because we don't have to setup interactive accounts (logins) for each user. All PC's login anounymously through one accountname (normally uucp or nuucp on Unix), and addressing is done by assigning a name to each PC and the user of it. Is this that special and difficult, or are you all to shy to respond to a frendly Dutchman :-) Cheers, Nico --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 12:51:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27124; Fri, 10 Nov 95 12:51:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16776; Fri, 10 Nov 95 12:44:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16770; Fri, 10 Nov 95 12:44:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tE0Fu-00038CC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 12:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: keithr@primenet.com (Keith Rowland) Subject: Re: popclient + pine help Date: 10 Nov 1995 19:33:32 GMT Message-Id: <4809ec$gh6@nnrp3.news.primenet.com> References: <47qqt0$chn@walrus2.walrus.com> As you may recall on 8 Nov 1995 17:54:40 GMT, Eric Maquiling posted this: > > I'm trying to get my mail on my server and reading it on my local > Linux box at home. > I'm assuming that if popclient works, I could just open pine on my > linux box and read and write messages. Here is an excerpt from my FAQ on ysing Linux with my provider. ===================================================================== 5. Setting up pine ===================================================================== You MUST use the popclient program first to read your mail from primenet and place it on your local hard drive. Then you can use pine to read and send replies. First set up pine. Login as your personal name login and run pine for the first time so it sets up some default files. Exit pine. Edit .pinerc and edit these lines: # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. personal-name=FirstName LastName # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain=YOUR.ISP.com # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. smtp-server=mailhost.YOUR-ISP.com Next we will create a script called 'm' for running popclient to get our mail and then running pine. You can copy this file and edit "USERNAME" and "PASSWORD" to your ISP username and password, which can be different than your password on your Linux system. But for simplistic reasons, your username on your Linux system should be the same as your ISP username. m: ------------------------ Cut here ---------------------- #!/bin/sh # if popclient -3 -p PASSWORD -o /var/spool/mail/USERNAME mailhost.YOUR.ISP.com then pine fi ------------------------ End here ---------------------- Now to get mail, simply type m. Of course you have to have already run dip and be connected to your ISP. Hope this helps! Best Regards, Keith... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for an easy flat-file database manager for Linux? Try SS-File Database Manager for Linux - http://www.primenet.com/~keithr/ssfile/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 13:51:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29194; Fri, 10 Nov 95 13:51:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17459; Fri, 10 Nov 95 13:44:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17453; Fri, 10 Nov 95 13:44:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tE1F1-00038DC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 13:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joe@access5.digex.net (Joe Nardone) Subject: Re: pine on VAX/VMS, quota exceeded...HELP!! Date: 10 Nov 1995 20:34:20 GMT Message-Id: <480d0c$8an@news4.digex.net> References: <01HWA6FZUZFMB9XPUU@mecn.mass.edu> <45j223$bmf@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Steven C. King (sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu) wrote: : On 12 Oct 1995, Jim Gerland wrote: : : : He still should be able to compress his mail file because MAIL is : installed with the EXQUOTA privilege. Otherwise, he would really be in a : rut. I was over quota before, and I could still compress my mail. : Installed <> (necessarily) current situation. Some sites remove EXQUOTA from MAIL because some users abuse the ability to continually receive mail without regard for disk quota. Joe -- =---------------------------------------------------------------------------= Joe Nardone | I hate it when my schwartz gets twisted. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQBtAzCg5QoAAAEDANvEmc4OAT8wntnCv8UPjyD2kohKVGa1CU21PLpYljzl3AE7 pldpNNscKSoE//aVMKYBO+tRFTTsPNi0qZ6CDlEBXTgJAiszoHh1qCzZyYj7FTBL YoUr+3sk9rU8Pma6AQAFEbQiSm9lIE5hcmRvbmUgPGpvZUBhY2Nlc3MuZGlnZXgu bmV0Pg== =1ocE -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 14:11:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29646; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:11:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18566; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:04:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18560; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:04:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tE1Xh-00038CC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daniel Dismuke Subject: How do I get passed connection refused on PC-Pine Date: 10 Nov 1995 20:49:21 GMT Message-Id: <480dsh$so1@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit when I try to open my inbox folder I get a statement "can't connect:Refused" What do I do? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 14:44:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00762; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:44:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18457; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:39:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18451; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:39:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tE24s-00038CC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lara@cern04 (Lara Rios) Subject: Is it dangerous to remove lock files in /usr/mail?? Date: 10 Nov 95 15:33:15 GMT Message-Id: I understand that when a user logs out without first closing pine that a lock file is created in /usr/mail. Is this done because if you exit without closing pine you have left your mailbox open and therefore unsecure and the lock basically prevents anything from being done to this unsecure mailbox? What would happen if I as a system administrator were to remove all lock files regularly during the day so our users that logged off without closing pine could still receive mail? Is this a good idea? I understand that the lock files are there for a reason, but once they are removed than the users mail works fine again so I don't see what the problem would be with removing them regularly (as root). I would appreciate any feeback. thanks, Lara Lara Rios Department of Computer Science Sys Admin - Civil Eng Dept University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 2143 Newmark Laboratory num : (217) 333-3821 205 N. Mathews Ave. E-mail : lara@cern.ce.uiuc.edu Urbana, IL 61801 url : http://www.ce.uiuc.edu/~lara/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 14:59:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01608; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:59:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19527; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:52:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19521; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:52:03 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tE1NK-000sDOC; Fri, 10 Nov 95 23:52 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Fri, 10 Nov 95 23:51 MEZ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:51:19 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: MR ASIT V SHAH Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attachment query In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Are you sure the file is NOT encoded? Excel files are not 7bit, so they should be encoded for mailing. If not they may come distorted. Ask your sender for the filesize and check with your email, if they differ use encoding for mailing. OR: Perhaps you are using an older version of excel than the sender? Then you Excel don't knwo how to handle the newer file. Ciao, Michael On Fri, 10 Nov 1995, MR ASIT V SHAH wrote: > > I would like to have some information about appended files with the > E-mail. I have had an instance where I was sent a mail and along with it > was an unencoded .xls file. Now I would like to know how can I read this > Excel file. I tried to read directly through Excel but gave me in text > format only. > > So if you know please send the related info. > > Thanks > > Asit > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE "Not a man to mince words. People, yes. But not words." (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 15:00:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01652; Fri, 10 Nov 95 15:00:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18838; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:55:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18832; Fri, 10 Nov 95 14:55:48 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tE1Qz-000sB1C; Fri, 10 Nov 95 23:56 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Fri, 10 Nov 95 23:55 MEZ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:55:08 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: "Eli-Jean R. Leyssens" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Other user name in From: line In-Reply-To: <47ta6s$ahs@driene.student.utwente.nl> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Better use Reply-To. >From the Setup-Config-Screen add "Reply-To: " to the customized-hdrs. Ciao, Michael PS: If you really have to use a different From field you have to recompile PINE. There is a Flag for allowing this, I've forgotten where, search for FROM in the os-dependent files. On 9 Nov 1995, Eli-Jean R. Leyssens wrote: > If I send a mail using pine from my machine now the From: line becomes > eli@BugHunter.student.utwente.nl but I would like it to be > e.j.r.leyssens@student.utwente.nl > > Changing the user-domain from BugHunter.student.utwente.nl into > student.utwente.nl isn't a problem, just change the user-domain= line in > .pinerc > > I am however unable to change the user-name, nothing in the .pinerc file > looks to be able to help me out nor does 'man pine'. > > Any help would be grately appreciated. > > Greetz, > Eli-Jean > P.S. if you would like to reply to this via email, please use > e.j.r.leyssens@student.utwente.nl > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE "That particular mistake will not be repeated. There are plenty of mistakes left that have not yet been used." (Andy Tanenbaum) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 22:01:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11364; Fri, 10 Nov 95 22:01:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26669; Fri, 10 Nov 95 21:58:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26641; Fri, 10 Nov 95 21:57:26 -0800 Received: from usr5.primenet.com (root@usr5.primenet.com [198.68.32.15]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA01519; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 22:57:49 GMT Received: (from peterqz@localhost) by usr5.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id WAA26901; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 22:56:50 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 22:56:50 -0700 (MST) From: Peter Quizert Message-Id: <199511110556.WAA26901@usr5.primenet.com> To: amipine-dev@cac.washington.edu, bounce@cs.uwp.edu, cmc@cs.uwp.edu, jarre@cs.uwp.edu, omd@cs.uwp.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu, space-music@cs.uwp.edu Subject: Are You Preapred? The Problem: Most companies require a pre-employment drug test. If you are seeking employment, on probation, or in the military, you will have to take a drug test. Another Problem: Eating the wrong breakfast, or using certain over-the- counter pain relievers will falsely identify you as a drug user. The Real Problem: Public and private employers spend 1.2 billion dollars each year (1992 figures) on drug tests that are unreliable and inaccurate. Even hard working employees that do not use drugs are at risk. The Solution: ================================ Know the Facts. Know what foods and over the counter medicines are routinely mistaken for common illegal drugs. Simply eating a poppy seed bagel before a drug test can identify you as an opiate user. Know how long different illicit drugs can be detected in your system. Marijuana can be detected for more than a month if nothing is done to conceal its use. Know the different types of drug tests, especially the ones you are likely to face. GC/MS tests are almost impossible to beat, but are seldom used. The more common EMIT test is much easier to fool -- if you know how. Be Prepared! Know when the test is coming. Do not use illicit drugs, or ingest cross-reactive substances before the test. Clean your system of drug metabolites and cross-reactive substances. Drink plenty of water and urinate as often as possible before the test. Do NOT give them your first urine of the day! Use Clean 'n Clear. Clean 'n Clear is a three phase system designed to Clean out your body, so you will give Clear urine and Clear the test. The unique Clean 'n Clear Package includes: 1. Simple step-by-step instructions 2. All natural blood purifiers 3. All natural urine flow stimulators 4. Coloring vitamins to put 'yellow' back in your clear urine 5. Information you need about drug testing 6. A guarantee! This is not a simplistic "tea" or golden seal approach to the problem! This amazing three phase system is guaranteed! And not just guaranteed ... We are so sure our unique three phase system will work for you that we are including a DOUBLE YOUR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!!! Everyone has a friend who needs this information! =================================================================== -------------------------------- P R I N T and S A V E ! ! -------------------------------- Be prepared. Stop worrying now! You will pass. We guarantee it!! Order your guaranteed Clean 'n Clear package now by sending $19.95 along with your name and address to: Clean 'n Clear 2809 East Hamilton Av #121B Eau Claire, WI 54701 Most companies require pre-employment drug screens. You may only have a few days notice of a drug test. Be Prepared. Order Now! =================================================================== Sorry, Clean 'n Clear is not legal in Texas, and will NOT be mailed to Texas addresses. Distributor inquires welcome. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 10 22:54:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12353; Fri, 10 Nov 95 22:54:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26624; Fri, 10 Nov 95 22:50:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26528; Fri, 10 Nov 95 22:44:24 -0800 Received: from usr6.primenet.com (usr6.primenet.com [198.68.32.16]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA01516; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 16:45:12 -0700 (MST) Received: (from peterqz@localhost) by usr6.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id XAA08822; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:32:34 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:32:34 -0700 (MST) From: Peter Quizert Message-Id: <199511110632.XAA08822@usr6.primenet.com> To: is-dos-acc@cac.washington.edu, is-ftp-acc@cac.washington.edu, is-next-acc@cac.washington.edu, is-unix-acc@cac.washington.edu, is-vms-acc@cac.washington.edu, pine-announce@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Are You Preapred? The Problem: Most companies require a pre-employment drug test. If you are seeking employment, on probation, or in the military, you will have to take a drug test. Another Problem: Eating the wrong breakfast, or using certain over-the- counter pain relievers will falsely identify you as a drug user. The Real Problem: Public and private employers spend 1.2 billion dollars each year (1992 figures) on drug tests that are unreliable and inaccurate. Even hard working employees that do not use drugs are at risk. The Solution: ================================ Know the Facts. Know what foods and over the counter medicines are routinely mistaken for common illegal drugs. Simply eating a poppy seed bagel before a drug test can identify you as an opiate user. Know how long different illicit drugs can be detected in your system. Marijuana can be detected for more than a month if nothing is done to conceal its use. Know the different types of drug tests, especially the ones you are likely to face. 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From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 00:53:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14341; Sat, 11 Nov 95 00:53:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29042; Sat, 11 Nov 95 00:49:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.96.96.111] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29036; Sat, 11 Nov 95 00:49:29 -0800 Received: (from dhs1@localhost) by pub.zjpta.net.cn (8.6.11/8.6.11) id QAA12877 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 16:48:55 +0800 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 16:48:55 +0800 From: dhs1@pub.zjpta.net.cn Message-Id: <199511110848.QAA12877@pub.zjpta.net.cn> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Content-Length: 12 unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 04:55:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19549; Sat, 11 Nov 95 04:55:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02444; Sat, 11 Nov 95 04:51:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02438; Sat, 11 Nov 95 04:51:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEFOQ-00038IC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 04:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holmberg@promotor.upp.promotor.telia.se (Johan Holmberg) Subject: cmsg cancel <63spjv8hca.fsf@promotor.telia.se> Control: cancel <63spjv8hca.fsf@promotor.telia.se> Date: 11 Nov 1995 13:32:35 +0100 Message-Id: <63razf8h7g.fsf@promotor.telia.se> This is a cancel message from holmberg@promotor.upp.promotor.telia.se (Johan Holmberg). -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Johan Holmberg Email: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se Telia Promotor AB Phone: +46 18 18 94 55 Box 1218 Mobile: +46 70 528 94 55 751 42 Uppsala, SWEDEN Fax: +46 18 18 94 99 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 05:07:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19960; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:07:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01861; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:01:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01855; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:01:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEFYa-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se (Johan Holmberg) Subject: Re: building pine3.91 on Solaris2.4 with gcc2.7.0? Date: 11 Nov 1995 13:42:20 +0100 Message-Id: <63n3a38gr7.fsf@promotor.telia.se> References: <47p2i2INNkph@seurat.syd.dit.csiro.au> In-Reply-To: ken@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU's message of Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:53:06 GMT In article <47p2i2INNkph@seurat.syd.dit.csiro.au> ken@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (Ken Yap) writes: > > Has anybody succeeded in doing this? The only thing that doesn't build > is pine and this is what happens when I do ./build sol: > > Making Pine. > cc -DSV4 -DDEBUG -ansi -DANSI -c addrbook.c [...stuff deleted...] > In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:46, > from headers.h:78, > from addrbook.c:65: > /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/unistd.h:225: \ > conflicting types for `rename' > /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/stdio.h:153: \ > previous declaration of `rename' > > cc is a link to gcc. The two occurences of rename in the gcc includes are: > > /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/stdio.h:\ > extern int rename(const char *, const char *); > /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/unistd.h:\ > extern int rename(const char *, const char *); > > which look consistent to me. I've tried looking for the prototype for > rename in the pine code but got lost in a twisty maze of OS dependent > files. Any clues? > The problem is that there is a define of "const" --> "" ie. every occurence of the string "const" will be substituted by an empty string. This definition is inconsistently applied. I have a patch to PINE3.91 that works for me (also GCC 2.7.0 and Solaris 2.4). Some things to think about if you try using it: 1) I don't know if I have done this "the right way". Because of the strange way the makefiles are organized in 3.91 I think it is very difficult to make a change in *one* place and have if affect all other parts of the PINE source tree. 2) I didn't have "cc" as a link to "gcc". Instead I used: ./build sol CC=gcc I assume both ways work. The patch follows below. Johan Holmberg ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Johan Holmberg Email: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se Telia Promotor AB Phone: +46 18 18 94 55 Box 1218 Mobile: +46 70 528 94 55 751 42 Uppsala, SWEDEN Fax: +46 18 18 94 99 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------BEGIN PATCH---------------------------------- diff -r -c pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile pine3.91-sol-gcc/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile *** pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 11 00:13:22 1994 --- pine3.91-sol-gcc/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/Makefile Sat Nov 11 12:20:49 1995 *************** *** 181,187 **** sol: # Solaris $(MAKE) mtest OS=sv4 EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ ! RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ RANLIB=true LDFLAGS="-lsocket -lnsl -lgen" ssn: # Secure SUN-OS --- 181,188 ---- sol: # Solaris $(MAKE) mtest OS=sv4 EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ ! RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh CFLAGS="-g $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ ! CC="gcc"\ RANLIB=true LDFLAGS="-lsocket -lnsl -lgen" ssn: # Secure SUN-OS diff -r -c pine3.91/pico/makefile.sol pine3.91-sol-gcc/pico/makefile.sol *** pine3.91/pico/makefile.sol Fri Feb 25 19:37:22 1994 --- pine3.91-sol-gcc/pico/makefile.sol Sat Nov 11 12:20:49 1995 *************** *** 48,54 **** # it only has /usr/ucb/cc) then change LDCC to the following line and # give that a try. This is still using the Solaris compiler but # leaving out the UCB compatibility includes and libraries. ! LDCC= cc5.sol #CFLAGS= -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi #otherwise --- 48,55 ---- # it only has /usr/ucb/cc) then change LDCC to the following line and # give that a try. This is still using the Solaris compiler but # leaving out the UCB compatibility includes and libraries. ! #LDCC= cc5.sol # use gcc instead ! LDCC= gcc #CFLAGS= -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi #otherwise diff -r -c pine3.91/pine/makefile.sol pine3.91-sol-gcc/pine/makefile.sol *** pine3.91/pine/makefile.sol Wed Oct 5 07:14:50 1994 --- pine3.91-sol-gcc/pine/makefile.sol Sat Nov 11 12:50:10 1995 *************** *** 69,81 **** LOCLIBES= $(PICODIR)/libpico.a $(IMAPDIR)/c-client.a # Use these for the Solaris C compiler ! CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" ! # LDCC= /usr/bin/cc # If you don't have /usr/bin/cc (our Solaris 2.2 doesn't seem to have it, # it only has /usr/ucb/cc) then change LDCC to the following line and # give that a try. This is still using the Solaris compiler but # leaving out the UCB compatibility includes and libraries. ! LDCC= $(PICODIR)/cc5.sol # Use these for the gcc compiler # CC= gcc --- 69,81 ---- LOCLIBES= $(PICODIR)/libpico.a $(IMAPDIR)/c-client.a # Use these for the Solaris C compiler ! CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -DANSI -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" ! LDCC= gcc # If you don't have /usr/bin/cc (our Solaris 2.2 doesn't seem to have it, # it only has /usr/ucb/cc) then change LDCC to the following line and # give that a try. This is still using the Solaris compiler but # leaving out the UCB compatibility includes and libraries. ! #LDCC= $(PICODIR)/cc5.sol # Use these for the gcc compiler # CC= gcc diff -r -c pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-sv4.h pine3.91-sol-gcc/pine/osdep/os-sv4.h *** pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-sv4.h Mon Oct 10 23:30:01 1994 --- pine3.91-sol-gcc/pine/osdep/os-sv4.h Sat Nov 11 12:20:50 1995 *************** *** 187,193 **** --- 187,195 ---- /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ /* #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ + #ifndef ANSI #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ + #endif /*------ If our compiler doesn't understand type void ------------------*/ /* #define void char /* no void in compiler */ -------------------------END PATCH ----------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Johan Holmberg Email: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se Telia Promotor AB Phone: +46 18 18 94 55 Box 1218 Mobile: +46 70 528 94 55 751 42 Uppsala, SWEDEN Fax: +46 18 18 94 99 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 05:35:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20513; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:35:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02958; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:31:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02952; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:31:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEFt8-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: PC-Pine to VMS Host Message-Id: <17453BDAAS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <47r5de$ra6@lynx.unm.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 13:29:13 GMT In article <47r5de$ra6@lynx.unm.edu> haagmans@cobra.unm.edu (Martin Haagmans) writes: >I am trying to setup PC-Pine to get mail from a VMS host that >runs MultiNet. The problem is the entry for "Folder Collections" I >have tried all kinds of variations with no luck. >The error message I get is: >"Can't connect to cobra.unm.edu,143: Refused (10061) I suspect that this has nothing to do with folder collections. More likely your VMS host is not running an IMAPD process. Are you its sysadmin? If not, you'll need to contact that person. I do not believe that Multinet itself provides an IMAPD server: there is no mention of such a thing in the Multinet manual that I just looked into. There is a VMS-ported IMAPD in Yehavi's "free" version of PINE at VMS.HUJI.AC.IL in directory LOCAL. I haven't run the IMAPD myself but I think it works OK and is compatible with Multinet. (I do run his PINE client successfully with Multinet, and I know that it can also work with UCX). >Has anybody succesfully connected to a VMS host? I'm certain that some have. Yehavi would not be offering his IMAPD if it did not work, that seems sure. If you try telnet vms.huji.ac.il/port=imap it will connect and respond appropriately with "IMAP2bis" service. Of course I cannot go further because I do not have an account there. If I try the same experiment to the host that you named, I get "connection refused". I feel sure that your host is not yet running an IMAPD process. The other explanation could be that you have a network firewall that is blocking this port number. The folder-collections question comes later. I don't know the answer, but perhaps you will find appropriate information with the IMAPD software. NEWMAIL is not a folder collection: it is a folder. My guess, but it is only a guess, is that your folder collection would be {cobra.unm.edu}mail/[] Probably the PMDF package also includes a version of IMAPD server. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 05:47:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20730; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:47:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02383; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:41:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02377; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:41:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEG9g-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 05:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simon@epsilon.win-uk.net (Simon Ho) Subject: Re: Problems with multiple nntp servers Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 12:22:57 GMT Message-Id: <4824bp$70u@irene.pcug.co.uk> References: Gundam wrote: >I'm a novice user of Pine and I have a serious problem with the news >support of that program. >I have configured Pine to show News from two servers, but if I'm >subscribed on one server, the newsgroup is shown also in the second! >Is there a trick to split the newsgroup lists by servers? >Thanks for all... The problem is that the newsgroups that you are subscribed to are listed in one .newsrc file. You would need something like a batch file (or shell script) to handle switching between .newsrc files (ie copy .newsrc-one_NNTP_server to .newsrc and then copy back when quit out) before going into Pine configured to the NNTP server of your choice. I don't know how to handle shell scripts myself but that seems a way to do it. rgds Simon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 07:07:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21912; Sat, 11 Nov 95 07:07:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03396; Sat, 11 Nov 95 07:03:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost.uni-koblenz.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03384; Sat, 11 Nov 95 07:03:10 -0800 Received: from meyer.uni-koblenz.de (meyer.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.5.67]) by informatik.uni-koblenz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA05315 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 16:03:48 +0100 Received: by meyer.uni-koblenz.de (4.1/KO-2.0) id AA00621; Sat, 11 Nov 95 16:02:13 +0100 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 16:02:11 +0100 (MET) From: Chandrabose ARAVINDAN X-Sender: arvind@meyer To: PINE Discussion List Subject: Pine and PGP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone please send me pointers/suggestions/advice on seamlessly integrating PGP and PINE? ---arvind From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 07:34:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22325; Sat, 11 Nov 95 07:34:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04400; Sat, 11 Nov 95 07:28:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04394; Sat, 11 Nov 95 07:27:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEHke-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 07:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Denison Subject: How to save a message to your floppy disk? Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 14:10:15 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Readers, I was wondering if it is possible to save a message onto your floppy disk? If so I would be very greatful if some one could send a list of basic instructions of how to do this. At the moment I have only saved them using the command in Pine, I beleive you have to enter into Unix to save files onto you floppy disk. If anyone can spare there time to respond I would be most grateful, thanks. DEN ___ |___| | / \ /\/ \/\ Richard Michael Denison _______/ \ / \________________________E-mail: rmd2@coventry.ac.uk____ E X T R E M E '95 Coventry University, England From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 10:25:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26122; Sat, 11 Nov 95 10:25:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06120; Sat, 11 Nov 95 10:22:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06114; Sat, 11 Nov 95 10:22:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEKYP-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 10:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Recent Primenet spam (fwd) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 12:43:24 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For the information of other readers of comp.mail.pine, I just received the following from a postmaster about the spam which just appeared about drug testing. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 10:31:53 -0700 (MST) From: James J. Lippard To: pobart@access.digex.net Subject: Recent Primenet spam Greetings! You are receiving this automatic response because you have sent email to postmaster@primenet.com with a subject containing either the word "spam" or the phrase "ARE YOU PREPARED," and are almost certainly complaining about the massive email spam to mailing lists by Primenet user peterqz@primenet.com, Peter Quizert. Excuse me, I mean ex-Primenet user Peter Quizert. His account has been terminated and is being billed for the time required to respond to complaints. We apologize for the net abuse, which is a violation of our user agreement, the relevant section of which is appended below for your information. [remainder omitted] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 12:16:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28396; Sat, 11 Nov 95 12:16:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08328; Sat, 11 Nov 95 12:13:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08322; Sat, 11 Nov 95 12:13:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEMDo-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 12:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Un fleuron du nil Subject: Reply to: Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 14:51:14 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi guys, i added this item "Reply to:" in the custumized-hdrs field in my config file. so my config file appears like that custumized-hdrs = Reply to: i tried it but i don't see the "Reply to:" in my header. What have I done wrong ? or what i forgot to do ? rick. ------ R. ACKAD IRC: BoZZo ||| Le SeUl Et L'uNiQuE FlEuRoN McGill University Garfi ||| Du Nil. DiFfIcIlE a TrOuVeR Montreal CANADA Garfield- ||| D'aUtRe. Si J'eN TrOuVe Un ricobey@ee.mcgill.ca ||| AuTrE, Il Ne SeRa PaS Si http://www.ee.mcgill.ca/~ricobey ||| CoOl QuE MoI. HeHeHeHeHeHe http://www.smartec.com/~rico ||| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 12:43:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28802; Sat, 11 Nov 95 12:43:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07969; Sat, 11 Nov 95 12:37:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07963; Sat, 11 Nov 95 12:37:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEMcx-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 12:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gregor@shelly.goldengate.net (Bradly Maurer) Subject: Re: How to save a message to your floppy disk? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 20:10:38 GMT References: Find the unix directory where the measage is saved. enter the send file command from the shell prompt. this would be sz for z modem or sx for x modem Richard Denison (rmd2@coventry.ac.uk) wrote: : Readers, : I was wondering if it is possible to save a message onto your floppy : disk? If so I would be very greatful if some one could send a list of : basic instructions of how to do this. At the moment I have only saved : them using the command in Pine, I beleive you have to enter into Unix to : save files onto you floppy disk. If anyone can spare there time to : respond I would be most grateful, thanks. : DEN : ___ : |___| : | : / \ : /\/ \/\ Richard Michael Denison : _______/ \ / \________________________E-mail: rmd2@coventry.ac.uk____ : E X T R E M E '95 Coventry University, England : : From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 13:19:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29646; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:19:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08443; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:07:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08437; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:07:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEN8D-00038HC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: toms@clark.net (Tom Saldari) Subject: Pine & PCAnywhere Date: 11 Nov 1995 21:00:40 GMT Message-Id: <4832to$9bg@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Our LAN has a Telebit LCS communications server and uses a PCAnywhere version 4.5 comm software. The problem description is when using Pine (Internet Email) the screen scrolls up one line and initiates a hard return. It is virtually impossible to read Email or compose a message. 1. Is there a solution to this problem and still use PCAnywhere? 2. Is there anyway to remove the PCAnywere status bar from the bottom of the screen? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 13:19:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29685; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:19:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09086; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:07:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09080; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:07:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEN4t-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ron@devi.rtvf.nwu.edu (Ron Small) Subject: How to repair damaged mail folder Date: 11 Nov 1995 20:36:44 GMT Message-Id: Hi, I'm using Pine 3.90 for SGI Irix 5.2. My mail folder has become damaged, and I'm not sure how to repair it. The Pine FAQ told me to make sure the first line in the file begins with the word, "From". I did make sure of that, but it still doesn't work. When I launch pine it says that it cannot open my mail folder. Any suggestions? If replying by e-mail, please respond to roon48@aol.com. Thanks a lot, ______________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ Ron Small Rational Graphics Inc Chicago, USA ____________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 13:20:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29736; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:20:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09192; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:13:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09186; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:13:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEN9B-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: toms@clark.net (Tom Saldari) Subject: Pine & PCAnywhere Date: 11 Nov 1995 21:02:14 GMT Message-Id: <48330m$9bg@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Our LAN has a Telebit LCS communications server and uses a PCAnywhere version 4.5 comm software. The problem description is when using Pine (Internet Email) the screen scrolls up one line and initiates a hard return. It is virtually impossible to read Email or compose a message. 1. Is there a solution to this problem and still use PCAnywhere? 2. Is there anyway to remove the PCAnywere status bar from the bottom of the screen? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 13:30:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29882; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:30:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08732; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:28:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08726; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:28:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tENNe-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Terry Paul Kasdan Subject: Signature Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 15:12:39 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am wondering how to create a "signature" that will be tacked on to the end of all my out-going e-mail messages. (The one you see below is currently saved in my Scrapbook and cut-and-pasted every time I send an e-mail.) Thanks in advance for any help! Terry Kasdan _________ This message brought to you by... | | / | | / TERRY P. KASDAN | |/ e-mail: t-kasdan@uiuc.edu | |\ | | \ * Visit my homepage on the Web * | \ http://students.uiuc.edu/~t-kasdan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 13:52:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00552; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:52:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09098; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:50:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from apollo.COSC.GOV by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09092; Sat, 11 Nov 95 13:50:10 -0800 Received: (from vince@localhost) by apollo.COSC.GOV (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA12813; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 13:40:16 -0800 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 13:40:16 -0800 (PST) From: -Vince- To: Terry Paul Kasdan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signature In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, Terry Paul Kasdan wrote: Hi there, > I am wondering how to create a "signature" that will be tacked on to the > end of all my out-going e-mail messages. (The one you see below is > currently saved in my Scrapbook and cut-and-pasted every time I send an > e-mail.) > > Thanks in advance for any help! Simply make a file called .signature and put whatever you like as your signature in it for the contents... Cheers, -Vince- vince@COSC.GOV - GUS Mailing Lists Admin - http://www.COSC.GOV/~vince UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.) Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free! Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan/Priscilla Chan Fan Club Mailing Lists Admin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 14:50:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01718; Sat, 11 Nov 95 14:50:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09972; Sat, 11 Nov 95 14:47:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09966; Sat, 11 Nov 95 14:47:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEOfR-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 14:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Un fleuron du nil Subject: Re: Signature Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:25:21 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, Terry Paul Kasdan wrote: > I am wondering how to create a "signature" that will be tacked on to the > end of all my out-going e-mail messages. (The one you see below is > currently saved in my Scrapbook and cut-and-pasted every time I send an > e-mail.) > > Thanks in advance for any help! > > Terry Kasdan > > _________ This message brought to you by... > | | / > | | / TERRY P. KASDAN > | |/ e-mail: t-kasdan@uiuc.edu > | |\ > | | \ * Visit my homepage on the Web * > | \ http://students.uiuc.edu/~t-kasdan > > > create a file and call it ".signature" without the "". and put it in your home directory. that's it Rick. -- R. ACKAD IRC: Garfi ||| Le SeUl Et L'uNiQuE FlEuRoN McGill University GarfiX ||| Du Nil. DiFfIcIlE a TrOuVeR Montreal CANADA Garfield- ||| D'aUtRe. Si J'eN TrOuVe Un ricobey@ee.mcgill.ca ||| AuTrE, Il Ne SeRa PaS Si http://www.ee.mcgill.ca/~ricobey ||| CoOl QuE MoI. HeHeHeHeHeHe http://www.smartec.com/~rico ||| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 15:24:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02336; Sat, 11 Nov 95 15:24:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11167; Sat, 11 Nov 95 15:23:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11155; Sat, 11 Nov 95 15:23:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEPFR-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 15:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeremy Weinrib Subject: new mail status Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 18:04:40 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way, or any file that will tell me if I have new mail waiting in Pine, that I can put in my .login file? The problem is that they are using an IMAP server, so I can't use the unix command newmail, or mailfrom, because the mail isn't actually stored in my directory. Is there any way that this can be done, or does IMAP make it impossible? Jeremy. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 15:44:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02781; Sat, 11 Nov 95 15:44:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10755; Sat, 11 Nov 95 15:42:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from oz.memphis.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10749; Sat, 11 Nov 95 15:42:29 -0800 Received: from zebra (zebra.msci.memphis.edu [141.225.11.47]) by oz.memphis.edu (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA28493 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:42:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:42:26 -0600 (CST) From: Installer User To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine locks while fcc or postpone-mess. on sparc Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have sparc-sun-solaris2.4 running pine3.91 using a precompiled binary (compiled for solaris2.2; we did not find any for solaris2.4). After composing a message I type ^X; pine writes Writing Fcc... and hangs forever. So the sys adm set the apropriate fcc variable (in pine.config) to "" to remedy the problem. But the same problem occurs when i try to postpone a message: I type ^O and pine hangs with the message Writing postponed message... Again, this can be repaired by setting the postponed-message variable to "" but then I cannot postpone messages!! Any idea what could be wrong? Thanks Mate Ps.: Of course, there could be other features of pine which do not work because of this "locking up" , but this is what we noticed in the first week Mate Wierdl Department of Mathematical Sciences University of Memphis, Memphis, TN 38152 USA O: (901) 678-3140 H: (901) 323-6152 Mate Wierdl Department of Mathematical Sciences University of Memphis, Memphis, TN 38152 USA O: (901) 678-3140 H: (901) 323-6152 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 17:36:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05192; Sat, 11 Nov 95 17:36:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12991; Sat, 11 Nov 95 17:33:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12985; Sat, 11 Nov 95 17:32:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tERE7-00038HC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 17:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jacs@j51.com (Andrew C. Stoffel) Subject: Re: Pine on DEC ALPHA machine Date: 11 Nov 1995 21:56:53 GMT Message-Id: <483675$ll@tzlink.j51.com> References: <3sk99m$it4@news3.digex.net> <3te2ti$ino@surz03.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE> Klaus Harms (system@ax1503.chemie.uni-marburg.de) wrote: : In article , fxars@aurora.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) writes: : |>>>>>> "B" == Blue Falcon writes: : |> : |> B> I need help installing Pine on a DEC ALPHA machine. It's a : |> B> pretty ancient system that can't really do much of anything. : |> B> Would appreciate any help on this. Are you sure it's an Alpha ? An older VAX (MicroVAX I or 11/780) might have problems running more recent software but most properly configured VAXen can run anything you need to access the internet, including TCP/IP & Pine & NNTP : |> : |>DEC Alpha ancient? Anyway, you didn't give any details. Is it : |>running OpenVMS, or Digital Unix? We have pine running on our system : |>just fine (Digital Unix). : |> === Al : |> : We have pine running on our Alpha/VMS system. : A group in Israel is working on the vms version. I've forgotten the : ftp address. : Klaus Pine runs on lots of VMS systems... ALpha & VAX... There's a port to VMS from Innosoft (included with their PMDF package) that'll work iwithout an IMAP server on the same machine even. & the above mentioned pd port... -Andy- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 17:36:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05219; Sat, 11 Nov 95 17:36:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12309; Sat, 11 Nov 95 17:32:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12303; Sat, 11 Nov 95 17:32:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tERE6-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 17:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jacs@j51.com (Andrew C. Stoffel) Subject: Re: PC-Pine to VMS Host Date: 11 Nov 1995 21:49:02 GMT Message-Id: <4835oe$ll@tzlink.j51.com> References: <47r5de$ra6@lynx.unm.edu> Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Martin, : Try "telnet cobra.unm.edu 143" and you will see that Cobra is not, : in fact, "IMAP compliant"... If you're on cobra.unm.edu try the above using VMS syntax: telnet/port=143 cobra.unm.edu In addition, if you telnet/port=25 cobra.unm.edu You'll see that that machine is using TGV's Multinet SMTP package. Multinet doesn't include an IMAP server, just POP(2&3). If it had been running Innosoft's PMDF e-mail product which does include an IMAP server you might have a chance. There is a port of an IMAP server to VMS but it obviously isn't running on that machine. : -teg : On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Martin Haagmans wrote: : > I am trying to setup PC-Pine to get mail from a VMS host that : > runs MultiNet. The problem is the entry for "Folder Collections" I : > Has anybody succesfully connected to a VMS host? : > Martin Haagmans : > haagmans@cobra.unm.edu All the time... you just need the correct server running on the machine. -Andy- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mailto:acs@campus.com http://acs.sunyrockland.edu/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 20:21:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08353; Sat, 11 Nov 95 20:21:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14543; Sat, 11 Nov 95 20:19:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14537; Sat, 11 Nov 95 20:19:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tETs0-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 20:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barry@telerama.lm.com Subject: Application/MS-TNEF Enclosures Date: 11 Nov 1995 22:12:56 -0500 Message-Id: <483ono$47p@tusk.lm.com> I've started receiving mail containing two parts. The first part is usually a few lines of ASCII text. The second part is about 2.9KB long and PINE 3.91 identifies it as application/MS-TNEF. The only thing I can do with the second part is save it to a file. The headers show that the sender is using Microsoft Mail. I asked someone who sent me such a message what he was doing. He was a computer novice and didn't know. Several messages from him had the attachment and several didn't. He didn't indicate he had done anything different when sending the mail without the attachment. So, what is the MS-TNEF attachment? Why is it called an application? What causes it to be sent? Is it necessary? If not, how can it be avoided? Thanks, Barry -- Barry Wolman Pittsburgh, PA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 20:52:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08950; Sat, 11 Nov 95 20:52:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15554; Sat, 11 Nov 95 20:49:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15548; Sat, 11 Nov 95 20:49:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEUKQ-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 20:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmatos@math.ist.utl.pt (Palhoto Matos) Subject: Pine 3.91 on A/UX 3.0.2 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 04:00:39 GMT Does anybody have experience in installing the version of pine customized for A/UX and available from dolphin.csudh.edu? In particularly I would like to know if the port assumes A/UX 3.0.x or 3.1? It seems not to work with my 3.0.2. Thanks, Joao P Matos From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 21:43:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09758; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:43:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15570; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:40:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15564; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:40:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEV6C-00038LC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: How to save a message to your floppy disk? Date: 11 Nov 1995 20:21:32 -0800 Message-Id: <483soc$b8j@shellx.best.com> References: gregor@shelly.goldengate.net (Bradly Maurer) writes: >Find the unix directory where the measage is saved. enter the send file >command from the shell prompt. this would be sz for z modem or >sx for x modem Or while viewing the message in pine, you should be able to just pipe it to sz, e.g.: |sz I haven't tried this so I'm not sure it works but I'm curious. Does anyone know if it works? Thanks, nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 21:43:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09776; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:43:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15562; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:40:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15556; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:40:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEV4P-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Problems with multiple nntp servers Date: 11 Nov 1995 20:14:10 -0800 Message-Id: <483sai$91l@shellx.best.com> References: <4824bp$70u@irene.pcug.co.uk> simon@epsilon.win-uk.net (Simon Ho) writes: >The problem is that the newsgroups that you are subscribed to are >listed in one .newsrc file. You would need something like a batch >file (or shell script) to handle switching between .newsrc files Or even better would be if Pine could use IMAP to access the .newsrc on the corresponding server. Pine developers - is that in the plans for some version of Pine? Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 21:45:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09837; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:45:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16257; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:40:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16251; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:40:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEV6C-00038KC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 21:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Signature Date: 11 Nov 1995 20:24:28 -0800 Message-Id: <483sts$c54@shellx.best.com> References: Terry Paul Kasdan writes: >I am wondering how to create a "signature" that will be tacked on to the >end of all my out-going e-mail messages. I have lots of info about this in my Signature, Finger, and Customized Headers FAQ: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/signature_finger_faq/ I hope it's helpful, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 11 22:42:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10534; Sat, 11 Nov 95 22:42:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16956; Sat, 11 Nov 95 22:39:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16950; Sat, 11 Nov 95 22:39:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEW1H-00038DC; Sat, 11 Nov 95 22:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul A. Steckler" Subject: WinBiff 3.2 released -- adds Notes support Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 22:17:16 GMT Message-Id: <816128236snz@blimpy.demon.co.uk> WinBiff 3.2 has been released, and is available at http://www.tucows.com/files/wnbff32.zip or ftp://ftp.tucows.com/tucows/wnbff32.zip or in the CompuServe NOVUSER forum as WNBFF32.ZIP. WinBiff is a Windows email notification program that works with a number of different mail agents, including Pegasus Mail, Eudora for Windows, cc:Mail, MS Mail, and new in this release, Lotus Notes. WinBiff also is a POP3 and IMAP client under WinSock. This version also adds a "Hide icon" feature that hides the icon when there's no mail. The "Unread mail only" option now works with Pegasus Mail and POP3. Enjoy! -- Paul -- Paul A. Steckler steck@acm.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 01:06:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12845; Sun, 12 Nov 95 01:06:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18833; Sun, 12 Nov 95 01:03:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from village.ios.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18827; Sun, 12 Nov 95 01:03:38 -0800 Received: (from brozen@localhost) by village.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA25920; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 03:59:32 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 03:59:32 -0500 (EST) From: Brock Rozen To: Un fleuron du nil Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Www: http://village.ios.com/~brozen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, Un fleuron du nil wrote: > so my config file appears like that > > custumized-hdrs = Reply to: It needs to be Reply-To: > i tried it but i don't see the "Reply to:" in my header. What have I > done wrong ? or what i forgot to do ? Pine does something VERY non-standard and changes it to (When you view it) Reply to: which is uncorrect, as there CANNOT be spaces in headers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Brock Rozen | InterNet Address: brozen@village.ios.com | | | CompuServe: 71614,240 | | | ImagiNation: 1304 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Check out my homepage at http://village.ios.com/~brozen | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | For automated information on various subjects, send an e-mail to my | | InterNet address with SEND HELP on the SUBJECT line. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 07:04:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19737; Sun, 12 Nov 95 07:04:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22996; Sun, 12 Nov 95 07:00:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22990; Sun, 12 Nov 95 07:00:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEdtC-00038CC; Sun, 12 Nov 95 07:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ray McAllister Subject: Help please setting Pine print command Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 23:29:53 -0500 Message-Id: References: <47s9a1$hns@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47s9a1$hns@shellx.best.com> Hi, I am using my pine shell account and periodically would like to print out an e-mail reply. I have gone into the setup command and hit P for printer, then attached to ansi (1). All I get are blank sheets of paper altho the screen says "printing attached to ansi". Please let me know what I am doing wrong. I am using an IBM PC clone 486/100 ande either an IBM Proprinter or an HP Laserjet 4MP. Thanks a million. Ray McAllister, Prof (Emeritus) Ocean Eng., FAU, Boca Raton, FL 33064 Diving Dinosaur, Geologist/Oceanographer/Ocean Engineer, 43 years SCUBA mcallist@gate.net (305) 426-0808, Author Diving Locations, Boynton/Dania From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 10:43:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22434; Sun, 12 Nov 95 10:43:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26236; Sun, 12 Nov 95 10:40:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26230; Sun, 12 Nov 95 10:40:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEhHF-00038CC; Sun, 12 Nov 95 10:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Help please setting Pine print command Date: 12 Nov 1995 09:04:02 -0800 Message-Id: <4859e2$n5p@shellx.best.com> References: <47s9a1$hns@shellx.best.com> Ray McAllister writes: >know what I am doing wrong. I am using an IBM PC clone 486/100 ande >either an IBM Proprinter or an HP Laserjet 4MP. Thanks a million. Are you using a postscript print driver? If so, change it to use a non-postscript print driver, e.g., I use `HP Laserjet 4/4M on LPT1' and then try printing with `attached-to-ansi'. Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 10:45:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22491; Sun, 12 Nov 95 10:45:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25612; Sun, 12 Nov 95 10:40:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25606; Sun, 12 Nov 95 10:40:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEhHG-00038KC; Sun, 12 Nov 95 10:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Can I add Organization to the default header? Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 07:19:05 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to see Organization while reading mail and newsgroups, as part of the default header. Can Pine be configured to do this? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Altofirma Web Works Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ rosully@aww.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 12:14:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23962; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:14:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27466; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:11:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27460; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:10:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEifT-00038CC; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Reply to: Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:30:28 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, Un fleuron du nil wrote: > i added this item "Reply to:" in the custumized-hdrs field in my config > file. > so my config file appears like that > custumized-hdrs = Reply to: Try making it "Reply-to:" with a hyphen instead of "Reply to:" with a blank. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 12:15:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24007; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:15:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26842; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:11:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26836; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:11:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEifU-00038DC; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Can I add Organization to the default header? Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:32:38 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 12 Nov 1995, Richard P. O'Sullivan wrote: > I would like to see Organization while reading mail and newsgroups, > as part of the default header. Can Pine be configured to do this? It is not a permanent solution, but when you view the first message, press 'H' for "full headers." Full headers should be on for all messages for the rest of that session unless you turn it off again. Be aware, however, that full headers will show a _lot_ more than just Organization. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 12:48:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24537; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:48:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27303; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:46:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27297; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:46:04 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24521; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:46:01 -0800 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 12:46:00 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problems with multiple nntp servers In-Reply-To: <483sai$91l@shellx.best.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nancy, Pine can already read news via IMAP, but this requires that: o you have an account on the News server (to store your.newsrc in). o the news server is running an IMAP daemon. There has also been discussion of having the IMAP server act as a proxy nntp client, so that an existing news-only server could be used via an IMAP server. I believe Esys Inc may have done this already, but it's not in the UW imap distribution at this time. The general problem of location-independent access to network application support files (e.g. .newsrc, .pinerc, .signature, .addressbook, .vacation, procmail rule files, web bookmark files, etc) is very important, and several groups are working on it. Our challenge will be to converge on a single approach. -teg On 11 Nov 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > simon@epsilon.win-uk.net (Simon Ho) writes: > >The problem is that the newsgroups that you are subscribed to are > >listed in one .newsrc file. You would need something like a batch > >file (or shell script) to handle switching between .newsrc files > > Or even better would be if Pine could use IMAP to access the .newsrc > on the corresponding server. Pine developers - is that in the plans > for some version of Pine? > > Thanks, > Nancy > > > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 12:52:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24645; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:52:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28004; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:50:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27998; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:50:02 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24599; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:50:00 -0800 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 12:50:00 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Also note that custom headers don't show up in the composer automatically. You need to hit ^R to see them *unless* they are also in the default header list. -teg On Sun, 12 Nov 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, Un fleuron du nil wrote: > > > i added this item "Reply to:" in the custumized-hdrs field in my config > > file. > > > so my config file appears like that > > > custumized-hdrs = Reply to: > > Try making it "Reply-to:" with a hyphen instead of "Reply to:" with a > blank. > > Paul > -------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett > P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. > Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key > -------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 12:55:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24717; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:55:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27386; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:51:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27380; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:51:19 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24629; Sun, 12 Nov 95 12:51:14 -0800 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 12:51:13 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can I add Organization to the default header? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No, unless you want to see *full* headers all the time... But 3.92 will allow you to specify which headers will be displayed in View Message. -teg On Sun, 12 Nov 1995, Richard P. O'Sullivan wrote: > I would like to see Organization while reading mail and newsgroups, > as part of the default header. Can Pine be configured to do this? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Altofirma Web Works Richard P. O'Sullivan > http://www.aww.com/ rosully@aww.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 15:24:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27500; Sun, 12 Nov 95 15:24:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00157; Sun, 12 Nov 95 15:21:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00143; Sun, 12 Nov 95 15:21:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEliB-00038DC; Sun, 12 Nov 95 15:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harleyw@coho.halcyon.com (Harley L. Waagmeester) Subject: Remote folders Date: 12 Nov 1995 23:01:08 GMT Message-Id: <485ubk$5n7@news1.halcyon.com> Yo! Where in the docs,faqs etc. are remote mbox's discussed. I want to PPP link from pine on my workstation to my shell account with an ISP and use that mbox real easily. Harley@sodak.net .Sig From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 18:53:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01241; Sun, 12 Nov 95 18:53:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02338; Sun, 12 Nov 95 18:41:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02332; Sun, 12 Nov 95 18:41:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEoo9-00038CC; Sun, 12 Nov 95 18:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Yeung Subject: Re: Features requested for next version Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 04:58:50 +0800 Message-Id: References: <47uq08$pq1@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47uq08$pq1@lantana.singnet.com.sg> On 10 Nov 1995, Mathias Koerber wrote: > Ted Stern (stern@amath.washington.edu) wrote: > > : I would like to see the following features in a future version of Pine: > > one more: 4) show the FCC by default in the address book. It's so hard to > figure out which aliases have agood FCC and which don't. Or allow > us to select which fields the address book is to show (some folx have > wide screens, ya know?).. 5) allow mass subscription to newsgroups. it's a hell on earth to type a, sci.*, ^x, s 20 times to subscribe to 20 different newsgroups. can't they let us tag the list and subscribe all at once? -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 12 21:19:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04456; Sun, 12 Nov 95 21:19:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05337; Sun, 12 Nov 95 21:15:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05331; Sun, 12 Nov 95 21:15:24 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04284; Sun, 12 Nov 95 21:15:21 -0800 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 21:15:21 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Ron Small Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to repair damaged mail folder In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A line beginning with "From " is necessary but not sufficient. Try copying the separator line from the beginning of a subsequent message to the beginning of the file (and deleting the mal-formed one). -teg On 11 Nov 1995, Ron Small wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using Pine 3.90 for SGI Irix 5.2. My mail folder has become damaged, > and I'm not sure how to repair it. The Pine FAQ told me to make sure the > first line in the file begins with the word, "From". I did make sure of > that, but it still doesn't work. When I launch pine it says that it > cannot open my mail folder. > > Any suggestions? If replying by e-mail, please respond to roon48@aol.com. > > Thanks a lot, > > ______________________________________________ > ____________________________________________________________________ > Ron Small Rational Graphics Inc Chicago, USA > ____________________________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 02:56:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10844; Mon, 13 Nov 95 02:56:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09944; Mon, 13 Nov 95 02:42:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09938; Mon, 13 Nov 95 02:42:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEwIn-00038DC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 02:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robk@stack.urc.tue.nl (Rob Kouwenberg) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 on A/UX 3.0.2 Date: 13 Nov 1995 10:05:32 GMT Message-Id: <48759c$9bt@tuegate.tue.nl> References: Palhoto Matos (jmatos@math.ist.utl.pt) wrote: : Does anybody have experience in installing the version of pine : customized for A/UX and available from dolphin.csudh.edu? : It seems not to work with my 3.0.2. I can make a version compiled for 302 available on request. I would only recommend pine when NOT using elm filters. Somehow the locking mechanisms of both emailers bite each other which caused a lost 'in' mailbox for me .. Best regards, Rob Kouwenberg -- [ robk@stack.urc.tue.nl,Gr.Adolfstraat86,5616BX,Eindhoven,The Netherlands ] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 05:31:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15077; Mon, 13 Nov 95 05:31:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11487; Mon, 13 Nov 95 05:07:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11481; Mon, 13 Nov 95 05:07:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEyZb-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 05:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ivan Ruiz de Gauna Achaerandio Subject: Help on binary files, please Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 13:57:35 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, Im using PINE 3.90 for Unix and i have a problem: How can I take a binary file divided in two parts. If I SAVE it there appears the two parts, not the whole file. So, how can i get the two parts together? Thank you very much, and sorry about my english. IVAN ---- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 06:13:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15914; Mon, 13 Nov 95 06:13:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12441; Mon, 13 Nov 95 05:32:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12435; Mon, 13 Nov 95 05:32:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tEyzV-00038HC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 05:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders In-Reply-To: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au's message of 1 Nov 1995 04: 36:43 GMT Message-Id: References: <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:45:42 GMT In article <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) writes: How do I look through a Pine folder (containing headers and messages saved as text) and know where the header for each message starts? I know the end of each header is marked as a blank line, but you can't mark the start of a header like this because the message itself could contain blank lines. A standard Berkeley style folder delineates messages by a "From " line following a blank line. Reading from the pine Tech Notes: Berkeley Mail Format This format comes to us from the ancient UNIX mail program, /bin/mail. (Note that this doesn't have anything to do with Berkeley, but we call it the Berkeley mail file format anyway.) This program was actually used to interactively read mail at one time, and is still used on many systems as the local delivery agent. In the Berkeley mail format, a folder is a simple text file. Each message (including the first) must start with a separator line which takes approximately the form: From juser@u.example.edu Wed Aug 11 14:32:33 1993 Each message ends with two blank lines. * There are actually several different varia- tions in the date part of the string, twenty at last count. * I think this should read "two newlines" -- i.e. _one_ blank line. Hope this helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 07:07:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17101; Mon, 13 Nov 95 07:07:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12833; Mon, 13 Nov 95 06:48:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12827; Mon, 13 Nov 95 06:48:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tF07V-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 06:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Manzoor ul Hassan Subject: TRN: to change my e-mail address. Date: 13 Nov 1995 13:47:24 GMT Message-Id: <487i9c$hp@maggie-black.austin.wireline.slb.com> References: <46vi0o$gj5@uiah.fi> <47p7gg$919@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I' dlike to change the e-mail address to reply to when I'm posting via trn. From home I usually use Netscape, but sometimes I need/have to use trn from the unix shell to read/post news groups. When I do this me e-mail address is sent as the defualt that has been set by my ISP. I would like to change it to a different one. Is it possibel ? Would really appreciate an e-mailed reply. -- -Manzoor. http://www.ccsi.com/hassan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 07:18:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17359; Mon, 13 Nov 95 07:18:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13835; Mon, 13 Nov 95 07:08:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13829; Mon, 13 Nov 95 07:08:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tF0Ss-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 07:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Features requested for next version Date: 13 Nov 95 14:38:52 GMT Message-Id: References: <47uq08$pq1@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Kevin Yeung suggests: >5) allow mass subscription to newsgroups. it's a hell on earth to type >a, sci.*, ^x, s 20 times to subscribe to 20 different newsgroups. >can't they let us tag the list and subscribe all at once? It's probably a lot easier that way. But it also takes a hell of a time to code such a thing. I suggest you simple edit your .newsrc and all them. I use "nngrep -a sci.all > .newsrc" to do that. One of the many reasons why I use "nn". :-) Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 09:02:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21908; Mon, 13 Nov 95 09:02:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15528; Mon, 13 Nov 95 08:43:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15520; Mon, 13 Nov 95 08:43:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tF1y6-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 08:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmbarton@mci.net (Daniel Barton) Subject: Searching body of messages Date: 1 Nov 1995 18:12:41 GMT Message-Id: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text string? "W" only searches the info that's in the index. The only way I know to do it is to leave pine and grep through the mail directory or mail folder. If not, can I add this as yet-another requirement? I'd like to be able to specify to search subjects only, search all mail (including the body of the message) in a folder, and search all mail (including body) of a folder collection. --------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 09:38:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24278; Mon, 13 Nov 95 09:38:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17823; Mon, 13 Nov 95 09:28:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17817; Mon, 13 Nov 95 09:28:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tF2fF-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 09:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Martin Gruender Subject: nobeep ? Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 16:32:51 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there an option to prevent pine to beep each time a new mail comes ? thnx for help ! bye Martin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 11:23:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29373; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:23:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20250; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:03:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20241; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:03:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tF46Q-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 10:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: TRN: to change my e-mail address. Date: 13 Nov 95 16:58:42 GMT Message-Id: References: <46vi0o$gj5@uiah.fi> <47p7gg$919@shellx.best.com> <487i9c$hp@maggie-black.austin.wireline.slb.com> Manzoor ul Hassan writes: >I' dlike to change the e-mail address to reply to when I'm posting via trn. >From home I usually use Netscape, but sometimes I need/have to use trn from >the unix shell to read/post news groups. When I do this me e-mail address >is sent as the defualt that has been set by my ISP. I would like to >change it to a different one. Is it possibel ? I am sure trn gives you a setup file for specifying your email address. That's usually the case when the default is used. RTFM! Btw, if your problem is with trn then why do you post to comp.mail.pine? A not to all authors of newsreaders: Please add a line which does not allow posting if the default values such as domain name, user name, email address etc match the given dummy values. It's a nuisance if the From: line reads "user@DOMAIN_NAME (YOUR NAME)". Sven Followup-To: news.software.readers -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 11:55:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00922; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:55:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21419; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:42:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21413; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:42:32 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09477; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:42:23 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:42:20 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Way Sun Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mail File Format? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For a description of folder formats used and understood by Pine, see http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/low-level.html#format |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 25 Oct 1995, Way Sun wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > From: Way Sun > Subject: Mail File Format? > Message-ID: > Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 03:20:46 GMT > > > Hi, > > Wondering if anyone knows where I can find the description > of the Mail files (/usr/spool/mail) format? Is it a RFC822 format? > > I am curious to find out how PINE marks the each > mail as read,new, and addressed? I opened the mail file > with an hex editor and didn't manage to see any difference > between a read and new mail. > > Thanks > > Way > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 11:58:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01179; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:58:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22203; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:50:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22197; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:50:12 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09629; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:50:11 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:50:08 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: New HTML version of Pine Technical Notes Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is now an HTML version of the Pine Technical Notes available at http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/ aka http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/ These are essentially a direct conversion of the Pine Technical Notes from TROFF version in the Pine 3.91 release, so there is no new information, but it should be easier to read for those with web browsers. Please contact the Pine Information Center Maintainer if you have any difficulty reading these pages with your browser. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 13:56:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09397; Mon, 13 Nov 95 13:56:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26161; Mon, 13 Nov 95 13:52:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26155; Mon, 13 Nov 95 13:52:22 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18017; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 16:54:49 +0500 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 16:54:49 -0500 (EST) From: Solis James X-Sender: sjames@mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing from PINE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 820 Before I have a nervous breakdown, I thought that you might be able to shed some light on my persistent problem as follows: After asking for a printout of my mail from PINE (by the 'Y' command) I find that usually nothing will print until AFTER after I exit my terminal program where I was using PINE. I feel that it must have something to do with one of the following issues: 1. Some setting in my Windows Print Manager 2. Some setting in my .pinerc file 3. Some parameter setting in WIN.INI file Other times I may begin to print while still in PINE but only half a page prints out and there is a generation of garbage which includes the command structure at the bottom of the PINE page. Yhukkkkk!!! Any words of wisdom to soothe my aggravation? Many thanks! Sol James sjames@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 14:27:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11625; Mon, 13 Nov 95 14:27:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27122; Mon, 13 Nov 95 14:19:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27116; Mon, 13 Nov 95 14:19:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tF79A-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 14:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gogan@email.unc.edu (Jim Gogan) Subject: Disk quotas and IMAP clients? Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 17:59:50 GMT Message-Id: <488169$p6c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> In looking at Windows and Mac IMAP clients, we have encountered a major problem with at least one product. We have a disk quota imposed for user home directories (where the mail folders are located) and no disk quota for /var/spool/mail (home of INBOX). With one Windows IMAP client that we are looking at, when a user that has hit their disk quota on their home directory moves a mail message from their INBOX into a folder, they get no error/warning message, everything looks like the mail message has moved over, it gets deleted from the INBOX, but since they have no disk space available in their home directory, it goes into "ye ol' bit bucket" and is GONE from this (and any other discernible) dimension. What have been the experiences of others out there with IMAP clients for Windows and Macs in terms of handling system errors like this? Anyone else encountered this with other clients? Are there other sites that have disk quotas where the folders are stored? Are there clients that DO properly return the appropriate error message in a case like this? Thanks in advance. -- Jim Gogan / Univ. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 16:43:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20034; Mon, 13 Nov 95 16:43:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01693; Mon, 13 Nov 95 16:39:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01687; Mon, 13 Nov 95 16:39:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tF9Mp-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 16:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: canceling a news message? Date: 13 Nov 1995 16:00:39 -0800 Message-Id: <488m77$luj@shellx.best.com> How do you use pine to cancel a message you posted to a news group? Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 20:26:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28072; Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:26:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06228; Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:23:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from panix2.panix.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06222; Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:23:52 -0800 Received: (from wlinden@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id XAA15515; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:23:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:23:46 -0500 (EST) From: Will Linden To: Daniel Barton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Searching body of messages In-Reply-To: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text > string? "W" only searches the info that's in the index. The only way > I know to do it is to leave pine and grep through the mail directory or > mail folder. > I thought this had been recently answered. The method is: ";" -- for "Select" "T" -- for "Text" "A" -- for All of message text. You can then "Zoom" to the selected messages, or use "A" and "S" to save them to a folder, and so forth. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 20:58:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28996; Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:58:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06822; Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:54:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06816; Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:54:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFDJj-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Is it dangerous to remove lock files in /usr/mail?? Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:02:10 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Nov 1995, Lara Rios wrote: > I understand that when a user logs out without first closing pine that a > lock file is created in /usr/mail. This is incorrect. If Pine crashes while it is reading the folder or performing an update, a lock file will be left behind. That is the only time. The lock files are created only when an actual file access is done, and are removed immediately afterwards. Lock files should be timed out (and ignored) by Pine and other mail software after they are 5 minutes old. If this is not happening, then something is wrong on your system and it needs to be investigated and/or reported to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 21:02:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29109; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:02:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07533; Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:59:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07527; Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:59:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFDQj-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Problems with multiple nntp servers Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:35:45 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4824bp$70u@irene.pcug.co.uk> <483sai$91l@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <483sai$91l@shellx.best.com> On 11 Nov 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > simon@epsilon.win-uk.net (Simon Ho) writes: > >The problem is that the newsgroups that you are subscribed to are > >listed in one .newsrc file. You would need something like a batch > >file (or shell script) to handle switching between .newsrc files > > Or even better would be if Pine could use IMAP to access the .newsrc > on the corresponding server. Pine developers - is that in the plans > for some version of Pine? It's there now, and has been for some time. In IMAP2, open *{imapserver}newsgroup in IMAP4, open {imapserver}#news.newsgroup Note that the IMAP server has to have a local news spool, and of course you need an account on the server. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 21:14:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29415; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:14:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07240; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:12:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.jaxnet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07234; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:12:43 -0800 Received: from jax.jaxnet.com (jax.jaxnet.com [204.183.221.4]) by mailhub.jaxnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA04580 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 00:12:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 00:12:24 -0500 (EST) From: Karl Renaut Subject: IMAP To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We just installed a stand alone email server and we are accessing it via pine/imap. A few users are able to access the remote server without giving their password. It would be great if I could set it up so that nobody had to give their password. How does security for imap work? Can I configure the email server to trust a particular host so that users don't have to give the login a passwd again to read their mail? --- Karl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 21:32:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29769; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:32:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07503; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:29:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07497; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:29:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFDv7-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dkelly@maestro.inav.net (Dave Kelly) Subject: Disabling news in Pine 3.91? Date: 13 Nov 1995 18:55:23 -0600 Message-Id: I would like to disable news reading in Pine for my users, is there an easy way to do this? (I've currently just set the nntp-server variable to ""). -Dave ###### ####### ##### ####### --------------------------------------- # # # # # # # . . # | Another tasty e-mail message from | #### # # # ###### # ### | Dave Kelly | # # # # # # # `-' # #/ | dkelly@inav.net | ###### # # ###### ####### ; | dkelly@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu | _/ | URL=http://www.inav.net/~dkelly/ | Electronic Mail /_/ --------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 21:37:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29922; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:37:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08156; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:34:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08150; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:34:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFE0T-00038DC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Is it dangerous to remove lock files in /usr/mail?? Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 21:18:06 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Nov 1995, Lara Rios wrote: > > > I understand that when a user logs out without first closing pine that a > lock file is created in /usr/mail. Is this done because if you exit without > closing pine you have left your mailbox open and therefore unsecure and > the lock basically prevents anything from being done to this unsecure mailbox? > > What would happen if I as a system administrator were to remove all lock files > regularly during the day so our users that logged off without closing pine > could still receive mail? Is this a good idea? I understand that the lock > files are there for a reason, but once they are removed than the users mail > works fine again so I don't see what the problem would be with removing them > regularly (as root). > > I would appreciate any feeback. I delete them regularly on our Silicon Graphics machine. If I didn't they would number in the hundreds after a month or two. The other poster may have been correct about how pine deals with these lock files, but my experience has been along the same lines as yours. From my end, it *looks* exectly like it leaves the lock files behind when a user logs out without stopping pine or its window first, or hangs up the modem from his end without quitting pine. On our machine, (once we did a few small code changes -- 1 or 2 lines) the program has been rock stable, almost never hanging up or crashing. Noone whose lock file I have deleted has ever complained. Ian Ollmann From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 22:24:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01149; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:24:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08942; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:19:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08936; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:19:21 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00350; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:18:55 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:18:54 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Kevin Yeung Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Features requested for next version In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > 5) allow mass subscription to newsgroups. it's a hell on earth to type > a, sci.*, ^x, s 20 times to subscribe to 20 different newsgroups. can't > they let us tag the list and subscribe all at once? That will also be in 3.92. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 22:45:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01603; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:45:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08687; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:39:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08681; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:39:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFF0b-00038CC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ahill@netspace.net.au (Anthony Hill) Subject: Pine support for PGP ? Date: 14 Nov 1995 02:23:55 GMT Message-Id: <488ujr$8bh@otis.netspace.net.au> Did I once hear of a version of pine that included support for PGP ? Anthony ahill@netspace.net.au ahill@connect.com.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 22:48:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01684; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:48:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09324; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:39:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09318; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:39:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFF1f-00038DC; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: new mail status Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 21:52:15 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, Jeremy Weinrib wrote: > Is there any way, or any file that will tell me if I have new mail > waiting in Pine, that I can put in my .login file? The problem is that > they are using an IMAP server, so I can't use the unix command newmail, > or mailfrom, because the mail isn't actually stored in my directory. Is > there any way that this can be done, or does IMAP make it impossible? > > Jeremy. Do you know where your INBOX is stored? It is often in /usr/mail or /usr/spool/mail somewhere. Once you know that, you could do something simple like add to your .login something like echo "You have "`grep -c 'Message-Id: ' $MAIL`" mail messages." where $MAIL is the path to your INBOX (e.g. "/usr/mail/$user" or "/nfs/some-machine-name/usr/mail/jweinrib"). This should give you a message like You have 0 mail messages. or You have 65 mail messages. or whatever. When used along with pine's read-message-folder option, it can be very easy to tell when you have new mail at login. Another option at an X-windows terminal is to use some program like mailbox, which has a little flag which goes up when you have new mail. Some such programs will even start pine for you when you click on the mailbox icon. Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 13 23:06:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02416; Mon, 13 Nov 95 23:06:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09588; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:57:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09582; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:57:39 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA26367 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 07:55:30 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA15488 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 09:57:15 +0300 (OET) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 09:58:01 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow To: Pine Mailing list Subject: Slow sorting of folders X-Sender: bor@itsmx1.mow.sni.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks! I am using Pine 3.91 for Windows with IMAP (all folders are on server). What I have noted, is very slow sorting of folders. For example, folder with 60 messages gets sorted by Date: substantially more then one minute. It could be _very_ annoying, if you were a couple of day off and are on some popular mailing list. Is it general problem, or just my local configuration? Is it slated to change in 3.92? Thanks for info ---------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 00:44:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04623; Tue, 14 Nov 95 00:44:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10173; Tue, 14 Nov 95 00:15:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10167; Tue, 14 Nov 95 00:15:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFGTg-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 00:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pstark@haven.ios.com (Peter Stark) Subject: Offline reader Date: 14 Nov 1995 01:43:08 GMT Message-Id: <488s7c$860@news.ios.com> Greetings all! I was wondering if there exists some software that would allow me to read a downloaded Pine mail folder locally on my pc. I have a large folder of technical e-mails, and would love to be able to read them one by one, rather than scrolling through a long ascii file. Does such a thing exist? Feel free to respond directly - thank you! I'm running OS/2, so any OS/2, DOS or Windows-based reader would fit the bill. -- >From Hoboken, No Jokin' Peter Stark pstark@haven.ios.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 01:26:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05807; Tue, 14 Nov 95 01:26:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11429; Tue, 14 Nov 95 01:00:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11423; Tue, 14 Nov 95 01:00:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFHAl-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 00:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kaz@sra.CO.JP (Kazuhiro Kitagawa) Subject: IMAP server capacity Date: 14 Nov 95 10:51:57 Message-Id: Hello imap folks. Now, we intend to install imap mail system as main mail system. I am wondering how many users can access single imap server at same time. We plan to use SS20 or PowerPC AIX machine with bunch of memory ? Do these machine allows simaltaneous 200 clients access with resonable speed ? Our expreience shows pop provide over 200 clients access at same time. I am looking forward to your reply. Thank you. -kaz kaz kitagawa From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 01:41:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06370; Tue, 14 Nov 95 01:41:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11369; Tue, 14 Nov 95 01:35:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11362; Tue, 14 Nov 95 01:35:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFHkD-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 01:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Can I add Organization to the default header? Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:59:16 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 12 Nov 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > No, unless you want to see *full* headers all the time... > But 3.92 will allow you to specify which headers will be displayed in View > Message. In speaking of... (Dare I ask?) (Maybe by mentioning something about *CENSORED* they might hold it back another week out of spite.) (...but it would be way cool to finally get a *CENSORED* *CENSORED* !) (...and it has been many moons since we got the last one.) Well, All I've got to say is, All I want for Christmas is [my two front teeth,] [my two front teeth,] [my two front teeth] What do you guys say, will it be a cold lump of coal in my stocking this Christmas or a small piece of softwood 9.9568 cm long? By the way, I just got a new mac. Will it be getting any presents too? Yeah, yeah. I know, and I don't blame you. Open Transport is pretty daunting. #1 fan of PDT, Ian Ollmann From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 03:20:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08083; Tue, 14 Nov 95 03:20:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13268; Tue, 14 Nov 95 03:15:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13260; Tue, 14 Nov 95 03:15:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFJJ4-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 03:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Filter and direct mail (two users with one account and one pine) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 10:48:40 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I have a question--I'm working with pine 3.91 on a unix system v system and have a problem: The greatest Love of my live *smile* wants to send a few mails, but she wants not to have an own account. ^^^ Now i thought that it would be possible to define two incoming folders (that's not really the problem, of course) and install a program that can direkt HER mails to HER incoming folder and MY mails to MY incoming folder. That program should be able to direct the mail in depedence on i.e. the subject or the address (To- or From-Field) or perhaps the content of the body. I need the name of some of such programs (and the location of such programs (i.e. ftp-server)) and a "how-to-install-manual" for that. Please send a Cc of your answer to ma (PM). Thank you very much for helping me! Bye. Ralf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 06:22:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12895; Tue, 14 Nov 95 06:22:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15410; Tue, 14 Nov 95 06:15:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15404; Tue, 14 Nov 95 06:15:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFM6F-00038DC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 06:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Karoly Negyesi Subject: Signature Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:25:39 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi! How could you use _two_ signatures in Pine? One for public , one for private... thanks, ___ ___ Charlie Negyesi chx@cs.elte.hu ___ ___ {~._.~} {~._.~} (+361) 203-5962 (7pm-9pm) {~._.~} {~._.~} _( Y )_ ( * ) Hungary, Budapest ( * ) _( Y )_ (:_~*~_:) ()~*~() H-1462, P.o.box 503 ()~*~() (:_~*~_:) (_)-(_) (_)-(_) May the Bear be with you! (_)-(_) (_)-(_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 07:01:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13814; Tue, 14 Nov 95 07:01:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16406; Tue, 14 Nov 95 06:45:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16400; Tue, 14 Nov 95 06:45:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFMXj-00038DC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 06:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Sort Algorithm Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:34:34 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Steven C. King wrote: > I was wondering what algorithm Pine 3.91 uses when it sorts things like > the address book, news posts, etc. > ... I wondered if it would speed things up if Pine used the > Quick Sort algorithm instead. It does use the quick sort algorithm. Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 07:28:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14619; Tue, 14 Nov 95 07:28:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16427; Tue, 14 Nov 95 07:15:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16421; Tue, 14 Nov 95 07:15:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFN0u-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 07:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Brian M. Moore" Subject: abnormal abort, locks, bugs,help!? Date: 14 Nov 1995 14:22:42 GMT Message-Id: <48a8ni$1pe@epic68.dep.state.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My Pine on freenet.scri.fsu became overloaded with incoming mail. I unsubscribed and cleaned it back to 1 Mb with 1 Mb free. I am still getting abnormal aborts with folder locks when moving between folders; leaving debugs in my home files. I also think that incoming is bouncing. Help! Also, I need a manual on how to manage mail and how to manage home files. Freenet help has not responded adequately. Brian Moore - stuck in Tallahassee. - mooreb4@freenet.scri.fsu.edu. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 07:39:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14966; Tue, 14 Nov 95 07:39:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16508; Tue, 14 Nov 95 06:50:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16502; Tue, 14 Nov 95 06:50:28 -0800 Received: from ciint by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA07020 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:50:24 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa00418; 14 Nov 95 15:11 WET Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:10:14 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Pine Info Subject: MAC-BINHEX 4.0 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello everyone! Today we were "fortunate" enough to receive a piece of E-Mail containing a file that was sent using the MIME content type "application/mac-binhex40". I do not know what the advantages of this content type are compared to the normal BASE64 encoding (definitely not convenience ;-), but naturally we don't want to inform the sender that our trusted Pine cannot handle this format. So, can anyone come to our rescue? Is there a MAC-BINHEX 4.0 Viewer/Converter available that can be used with our UNIX Pine? I'd welcome any pointer on BINHEX for UNIX, including why anyone would want to use it. Thanks in advance! Kind regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | ...at a time when men were REAL men and | | CI International B.V. | wrote their own device drivers (Linus) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 08:08:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15851; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:08:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17579; Tue, 14 Nov 95 07:45:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17572; Tue, 14 Nov 95 07:45:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFNX6-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 07:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: padhu@magicnet.net Subject: Help Configuring Pine Date: 14 Nov 1995 13:47:36 GMT Message-Id: <48a6lp$m9h@comet.magicnet.net> I have pine3.91 installed in my linux box. It works as a news reader well. But I couln't get it to work as a mail reader. My mail reader settings are inbox-path = {magicnet.net}INBOX and folder-collections = {magicnet.net}Mail/[] Pine reports the following message while trying to read INBOX magicnet.net,403 connection refused I appreciate your help. ===================================================== | Padmanaban padhu@magicnet.net | | American Computer Technologies (800) ACT-7185 | ===================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 08:21:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16572; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:21:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17420; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:01:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from edison.ugr.es by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17408; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:01:02 -0800 Received: (from jfborras@localhost) by edison.ugr.es (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA13020; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 17:03:11 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 17:03:09 +0100 (MET) From: Juan Francico Borras Correa To: news Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe x4645078@edison.ugr.es From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 08:50:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17745; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:50:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18797; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:43:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18784; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:43:28 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17517; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:43:21 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:43:21 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Kazuhiro Kitagawa Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP server capacity In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Short answer: Yes, provided you use reasonably fast disks, and moderately small ones (e.g. 1GB). That is, you will be limited by seek bandwidth. Also, if you are using the UW IMAP server, we suggest using Tenex format mail files, as they are more memory-efficient than mbox format files. -teg On 14 Nov 1995, Kazuhiro Kitagawa wrote: > > Hello imap folks. > > Now, we intend to install imap mail system as main mail > system. > I am wondering how many users can access single imap server > at same time. We plan to use SS20 or PowerPC AIX machine > with bunch of memory ? > > Do these machine allows simaltaneous 200 clients access > with resonable speed ? > > Our expreience shows pop provide over 200 clients access > at same time. > > I am looking forward to your reply. > > Thank you. > > -kaz > kaz kitagawa > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 08:55:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18089; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:55:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18885; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:46:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18877; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:46:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFORC-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: RFR Subject: I want the smartest person to read this! Date: 14 Nov 1995 15:20:28 GMT Message-Id: <48ac3s$99g@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like the smartest person to read this and tell me why I can't connect to our unix pine server (on an DG/Aviion) using pc-pine through Netcom's Netcruiser winsock. While connecting, the program just hangs until it times out. I followed the instructions on setup (to the best of my ability). Is there some trick in the configuration that I need to do? Please reply, and I will be forever in your debt. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 09:01:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18519; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:01:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19566; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:51:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19560; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:51:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFOXU-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Re: Slow sorting of folders Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 06:44:49 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 13 Nov 1995, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > Hi folks! > > I am using Pine 3.91 for Windows with IMAP (all folders are on server). > What I have noted, is very slow sorting of folders. For example, folder > with 60 messages gets sorted by Date: substantially more then one minute. > > It could be _very_ annoying, if you were a couple of day off and are on > some popular mailing list. > > Is it general problem, or just my local configuration? Is it slated to > change in 3.92? > > Thanks for info > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de > SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 > ---------------------------------------------------- It appears to be a philosophy of no local buffering of the index list. When I sort a list I notice that the items are reread from my ISP's news server. This happens over a 28.8KB line and slows down the sort. I imagine an option to buffer the index locally would solve the problem. __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma Web Works /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 09:59:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22084; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:59:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21484; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21478; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFPVd-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Error: Unable to create TCP socket? Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 07:29:14 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have received this message from Pine 3.91 from time to time. [Unable to create TCP socket: Too many open files] Quitting Pine and restarting cures the problem but what causes it? __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma Web Works /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 10:00:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22157; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:00:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21492; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21486; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFPVk-00038HC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Why To: and not From: posting to newsgroup? Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 07:23:08 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have noticed that sending a message 'To:' someone and posting it to a newsgroup at the same time cause the newsgroup item to show the 'To:' address rather than the 'From:' address? This looks funny. Is this a feature or a fluke? __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma Web Works /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 10:00:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22167; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:00:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22093; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22087; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFPVl-00038IC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: canceling a news message? Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:26:50 -0500 Message-Id: References: <488m77$luj@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <488m77$luj@shellx.best.com> On 13 Nov 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > How do you use pine to cancel a message you posted to a news group? > > Thanks, > Nancy I have never tried it, but the following was posted on this newsgroup last spring. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- >From tdarcos@access1.digex.net Date: 14 May 1995 17:50:03 GMT From: Paul Robinson Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: How to Cancel USENET posts Harris Internet Service Company (martyn@indirect.com) wrote: : What is the proper procedure for cancelling a newsgroup post? Get the original post number (the "references") and be sure to have a "Control:" header in the list of optional headers, or use the command in pine to allow you to add it. Use the following headers: Control: cancel Subject: cmsg cancel And have a non-empty text; the signature should be sufficient -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 10:00:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22202; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:00:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22085; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22079; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFPVi-00038DC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Abraham Gutman Subject: + to the left of messages. Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:00:25 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Any idea what the "+" means? Thanks, Abraham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 10:08:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22739; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:08:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21627; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:56:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21621; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:56:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFPVm-00038KC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 09:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine support for PGP ? Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:33:54 -0500 Message-Id: References: <488ujr$8bh@otis.netspace.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <488ujr$8bh@otis.netspace.net.au> On 14 Nov 1995, Anthony Hill wrote: > Did I once hear of a version of pine that included support for PGP ? > > Anthony > ahill@netspace.net.au > ahill@connect.com.au I don't know that there is a version of Pine as such that supports PGP, but there is something called mkpgp under Unix to provide an interface. I have never used it, so I cannot vouch for it. Also, the following was posted on this newsgroup last spring. Again, I can't vouch for it, and it applies only to Pine/Unix. > For a well written script to interface PGP with Pine: > > finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -f > mkpgp.txt.uu Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 10:24:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23674; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:24:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22372; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:16:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22366; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:16:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFPsd-00038DC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ac_march@ece.concordia.ca (Angus C. March) Subject: Help: Header for quotes Date: 14 Nov 1995 17:37:50 GMT Message-Id: <48ak5e$jei@newsflash.concordia.ca> I've started using pine, and I've found it to be much more powerful than mh, but I'm a little frustrated with some of the petty problems that I face. Right now I'm trying to work a header for the quotes, for instance, with mh I used to have: On {date}, it was a dark and stormy night, when you wrote: And the quote began. Now I just have the quote. I've looked in the setup for such a switch, or whatever but I've found nothing. I've also looked in .pinerc, but the same problem. Now what? -- _________ ___________ Murphy ain't seen nothing yet |.........| |Attempting | Angus March |: DON'T :| |recovery...| The Ultra-Mind Dragon |: PANIC :| |1067 pages | -==(UDIC)==- |:.......:| |unrecovered| internet: ac_march@ece.concordia.ca |---------|___ __|___________|__ ac_marc@alcor.concordia.ca /___________\ |_________________| AX.25: VE2UFP@VE2FKB.#MTL.PQ.CAN.CA http://www.ece.concordia.ca/~ac_march/addr.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 10:25:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23701; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:25:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23029; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:16:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23021; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:16:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFPsd-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Why To: and not From: posting to newsgroup? Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:35:33 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Richard P. O'Sullivan wrote: > I have noticed that sending a message 'To:' someone and posting > it to a newsgroup at the same time cause the newsgroup item to show the > 'To:' address rather than the 'From:' address? This looks funny. Is > this a feature or a fluke? For good or for ill, it's the way Pine works. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 11:01:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25712; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:01:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23563; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:53:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23550; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:53:31 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tFPYq-000sFwC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 19:54 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 14 Nov 95 19:53 MEZ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:52:35 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Abraham Gutman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: + to the left of messages. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It does exactly means what the docs say: The mail was sent to you directly, not via mailinglists. Ciao, Michael On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Abraham Gutman wrote: > Any idea what the "+" means? > > Thanks, > > Abraham > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE "I used to think that *I* was stupid, and then I met philosophers." (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 11:21:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26568; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:21:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24914; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:16:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24908; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:16:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFQpL-00038DC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: Signature Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:58:06 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Karoly Negyesi wrote: > How could you use _two_ signatures in Pine? One for public , one for > private... > thanks, Use the ctrl-r-feature when the cursor is in the body of the mail you're writing. Bye. Ralf *Die Wege des Herrn sind untergruendig...aehhh...unergruendlich* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 11:33:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27305; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:33:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24624; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:26:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24618; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:26:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFQwO-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcrs@ciunix.uc.pt (Rui Pedro Loureiro) Subject: News Read Date: 14 Nov 1995 18:09:50 GMT Message-Id: <48am1f$jqe@gnu.mat.uc.pt> Hello all. I need some help. Can i read news with pine? YES. Who? I dont know... Can you help me? Thank's.. -- ***************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** ************************************************************************* *** Rui Pedro Gaio Loureiro *** *** Rua Brotero 14 A E-Mail: mcrs@ciunix.uc.pt *** *** 3030 Coimbra *** *** " Um amigo ao seu dispor " *** *** PAGER: 094200 - 114360 *** *** TEL: ( 039 ) - 405884 *** *** *** *** *** ************************************************************************* *************************************************************************** ***************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 12:00:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28723; Tue, 14 Nov 95 12:00:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26050; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:51:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26044; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:51:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFRLO-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul J. Schinder) Subject: Re: MAC-BINHEX 4.0 Date: 14 Nov 1995 18:50:34 GMT Message-Id: <48aodq$j56@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: In rgering@ciint.nl (Richard Gering) writes: >Hello everyone! >Today we were "fortunate" enough to receive a piece of E-Mail containing >a file that was sent using the MIME content type "application/mac-binhex40". >I do not know what the advantages of this content type are compared to >the normal BASE64 encoding (definitely not convenience ;-), but naturally we Absolutely none. >don't want to inform the sender that our trusted Pine cannot handle this format. Speaking as a long time and current Mac owner, I would *definitely* tell them that Pine can't handle this format, and *definitely* ask that it be resent. If they're using Mac Eudora (very likely), tell them to send it properly this time by using AppleDouble. Don't take no for an answer, and don't let them ever send you Binhex again. If anyone ever sent me a Binhex attachement to my Unix workstations, that's what I'd do (after deleting the thing), and I'm fully equipped to deal with Binhex on Unix because I own a Mac. It's trivial for Mac users to get this right, and if they'd bother to turn on Balloon Help, Eudora itself would tell them what to use. >So, can anyone come to our rescue? Is there a MAC-BINHEX 4.0 Viewer/Converter >available that can be used with our UNIX Pine? You can find one in the Info-Mac archives by searching for mcvert: I use mcvert on my Suns and it does the job. You'll need to use the flag telling mcvert to separate the resource and data forks. >I'd welcome any pointer on BINHEX for UNIX, including why anyone would want >to use it. The reason that Binhex is used is that Mac files contain two forks, the data fork and the resouce fork. The data fork usually contains the working part of a file (the text of a text document, the gif of a gif, etc.) and is almost always the only part of the file that would be of any use on a non-Mac. The resource fork usually contains very Mac specific stuff (fonts, icons, etc.). Binhex is a way of combining the two forks of a Mac file into a single text file so that it can be transported through e-mail. AppleDouble is another, superior way. AppleDouble separates the data and resource forks into two separate Base64 encoded attachments. Anyone on a non-Mac can discard the resource fork and decode the data fork trivially (it works well in Pine). Binhex is ubiquitous in the Mac world, and, unfortunately, Eudora permits it as one of its encoding choices without putting up a fuss. (It should at least notify Mac users with a dialog box that it shouldn't be used to send mail to people not using Macs.) >Thanks in advance! >Kind regards, >- Richard Gering. >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | ...at a time when men were REAL men and | >| CI International B.V. | wrote their own device drivers (Linus) | >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- -------- Paul J. Schinder NASA Goddard Space Flight Center schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 13:56:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05602; Tue, 14 Nov 95 13:56:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29683; Tue, 14 Nov 95 13:51:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29677; Tue, 14 Nov 95 13:51:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFTFF-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 13:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dr@ripco.com (David Richards) Subject: IMAP Memory usage? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:16:13 GMT What kind of memory does IMAPd take up? If a user has a 5Mb mailbox consisting of 300 messages, how much memory will their IMAPd process occupy? 5Mb? 300 x (size of the header lines) ? more? less? -- David Richards Ripco Communications Inc. My opinions are my own, Public Access in Chicago But they are available for rental FREE Usenet and Email dr@ripco.com (312) 665-0065 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 14:05:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06213; Tue, 14 Nov 95 14:05:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29906; Tue, 14 Nov 95 14:02:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ctadmin.forprod.CSIRO.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29900; Tue, 14 Nov 95 14:02:00 -0800 Received: from wolf.forprod.CSIRO.AU by ctadmin.forprod.CSIRO.AU with SMTP id AA29875 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:01:31 +1100 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:02:09 +10 From: John Wolff Subject: PC-Pine (packet) with DOS SLIP dialler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hello, I'm not a regular on this mailing list, but follow the discussions on comp.mail.pine. Back on 30 October I posted the following problem to the newsgroup - but our news host has been off the air for most of the past couple of weeks, so I have been unable to receive any replies. I've checked the list archives and found the original message on 31 October, but that would put replies in the November archive which is not yet on-line. If anyone has been able to shed any light on this problem, could I please ask if you would be so kind as to re-post by email. Many thanks, John Wolff Electronics & Networks Engineer Phone: +61 3 542 2281 CSIRO Ian Wark Laboratory Fax: +61 3 543 6613 Private Bag 10, Rosebank MDC Private: +61 3 754 2426 Clayton, VIC, 3169, Australia Email: J.Wolff@forprod.csiro.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have an IMAP user who has been banished to field work with a DOS-based 286 laptop. I have been trying to get the packet version of pcpine 3.91 to work with the U of Minnesota "umslip" serial line packet driver to allow him to access his existing mail store, but am not having much success. umslip loads ok and connects to my dialup router (a Netblazer), pktstats shows a packet driver on 0x60, the ping program ex CUTCP works ok, and minuet work OK, so I figure this end of it is working. But pcpine doesn't like it, and is unable even to resolve the mailhost name over umslip. Modem lights and a trace on the dialup router show DNS packets being sent and received, but no action results. (I haven't tackled the protocol analyser yet to check the content of the packets). Using the IP address instead of server name in the inbox definition produces an IMAP protocol exchange with the mailhost, but pine quits with "connection broken by server" (or words to that effect). Syslog on the imap server does not show a connection ever having been established. However, exactly the same pcpine configuration works fine over an ethernet packet driver on a desktop machine (lsl/smc8000/odipkt24). So both halves of the setup work independently, but they just don't seem to communicate at the packet layer. Any light on this problem would be much appreciated, or any suggestions for an alternative dial-up system that will work with Pine on a DOS-based 286. Also: I can not get pcpine to produce a debug file as described in the tech notes, even if started with -d9. Is this supposed to work, or is there a trick to this too? Many thanks, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 16:11:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12952; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:11:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04467; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:06:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04461; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:06:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFVLw-00038DC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Problems with multiple nntp servers Date: 14 Nov 1995 12:23:51 -0800 Message-Id: <48atsn$4l0@shellx.best.com> References: <4824bp$70u@irene.pcug.co.uk> <483sai$91l@shellx.best.com> Mark Crispin writes: >> Or even better would be if Pine could use IMAP to access the .newsrc >> on the corresponding server. Pine developers - is that in the plans >> for some version of Pine? > >It's there now, and has been for some time. In IMAP2, open > *{imapserver}newsgroup Thanks. After some experimenting I discovered that this also works in IMAP2: *{imapserver/imap}newsgroup I like this better because it reminds me that it's using imap instead of nntp to access the news group. Where in the pinerc does it make sense to put this? It worked in incoming-folders but I'm wondering where else it makes sense. Also, the following works in news-collections: *{imapserver/imap}[] I'm wondering if there's a way to specify a news hierarchy with something like this: *{imapserver/imap}#mh/usr/spool/news/hierarchy[] This didn't work but it seems like something like it should work... IMAP is the greatest Internet protocol in the universe! It is the future! It will be the downfall of the PC and Microsoft! Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 16:31:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13919; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:31:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04283; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:26:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04277; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:26:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFVfy-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gs01mew@panther.Gsu.EDU (Eric Wardowski) Subject: Is there a "tin" discussion group? Date: 10 Nov 1995 16:01:45 GMT Message-Id: <47vt19$eli@sphinx.Gsu.EDU> Is there a "tin" discussion group? I have a few problems forwarding mail articles from newsgroups within tin. It tells me that names must be specified and nothing I do seems to fix it! -- Eric Wardowski eric.ward@swsbbs.com (and other hot spots!) "You live and learn. Or you don't live long!" -- Lazarus Long From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 17:32:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17215; Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:32:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06885; Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:30:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sraigw.sra.co.jp by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06875; Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:30:08 -0800 Received: from sranhd.sra.co.jp by sraigw.sra.co.jp (8.6.12+2.4W3/3.4W-2.1) id KAA01771; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:30:05 +0900 Received: from sras13.sra.co.jp (sras13 [133.137.20.76]) by sranhd.sra.co.jp (8.6.12+2.4W3/3.4W-srambox) with SMTP id KAA11595; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:29:22 +0900 Received: from localhost by sras13.sra.co.jp (5.65c/6.4J.6-SJX) id AA10659; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:27:46 +0900 Message-Id: <199511150127.AA10659@sras13.sra.co.jp> To: Terry Gray Cc: Kazuhiro Kitagawa , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP server capacity In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:43:21 PST" References: Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:27:46 +0900 From: Kazuhiro Kitagawa Dear Terry: Thank you for your advice. -kaz On 15 Nov 1995(JST), Terry Gary wrote: >>Short answer: Yes, provided you use reasonably fast disks, and moderately >>small ones (e.g. 1GB). That is, you will be limited by seek bandwidth. >>Also, if you are using the UW IMAP server, we suggest using Tenex format >>mail files, as they are more memory-efficient than mbox format files. >> >>-teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 17:45:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17690; Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:45:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07134; Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:42:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07128; Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:42:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFWnc-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeremy Weinrib Subject: imap programs Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:54:57 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anybody know where I can get an IMAP BASED query program that would check whether or not I have new mail waiting. On the system that I use, the inboxes are stored on a remote server that is accessed using the IMAP protocol. Thanks for your help. Jeremy. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 19:13:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20637; Tue, 14 Nov 95 19:13:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08128; Tue, 14 Nov 95 19:07:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08122; Tue, 14 Nov 95 19:07:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFY9f-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 19:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pstark@haven.ios.com (Peter Stark) Subject: Re: Offline reader Date: 15 Nov 1995 00:05:16 GMT Message-Id: <48bars$41k@news.ios.com> References: <488s7c$860@news.ios.com> A kind soul pointed me to Readmail, which I found at ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/infosys/newsreaders/dos/offline It's dos-based, and pretty flexible. Try it out! Peter Stark (pstark@haven.ios.com) wrote: : Greetings all! : I was wondering if there exists some software that would allow me to read : a downloaded Pine mail folder locally on my pc. I have a large folder of : technical e-mails, and would love to be able to read them one by one, : rather than scrolling through a long ascii file. Does such a thing exist? : Feel free to respond directly - thank you! : I'm running OS/2, so any OS/2, DOS or Windows-based reader would fit the : bill. : -- : From Hoboken, No Jokin' : Peter Stark : pstark@haven.ios.com -- >From Hoboken, No Jokin' Peter Stark pstark@haven.ios.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 20:42:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23037; Tue, 14 Nov 95 20:42:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09741; Tue, 14 Nov 95 20:39:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from panix2.panix.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09735; Tue, 14 Nov 95 20:39:43 -0800 Received: (from wlinden@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id XAA18806; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:39:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:39:35 -0500 (EST) From: Will Linden To: Abraham Gutman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: + to the left of messages. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Abraham Gutman wrote: > Any idea what the "+" means? It means a message actually addressed to YOU, instead of an alias or list. Is there any way to select the messages thus marked? There does not seem to be anything corresponding in "Status". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 22:46:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26150; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:46:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12901; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:42:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12895; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:42:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFbUM-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: keithr@primenet.com (Keith Rowland) Subject: Re: Is there a "tin" discussion group? Date: 12 Nov 1995 00:53:15 GMT Message-Id: <483ghr$q9d@nnrp2.news.primenet.com> References: <47vt19$eli@sphinx.Gsu.EDU> As you may recall on 10 Nov 1995 16:01:45 GMT, Eric Wardowski posted this: > Is there a "tin" discussion group? I have a few problems forwarding mail > articles from newsgroups within tin. It tells me that names must be > specified and nothing I do seems to fix it! TIN seems to be most talked about in: news.software.readers Best Regards, Keith... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SS-File Database Manager for Linux - GoldWing Motorcycle Page - Art Bell Late Night Radio Talk Show Host - Character-based Application Preservation Society DataFlex - Ham Radio - Scanners and more at http://www.primenet.com/~keithr/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 14 23:40:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27250; Tue, 14 Nov 95 23:40:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12761; Tue, 14 Nov 95 23:37:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12755; Tue, 14 Nov 95 23:37:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFcN2-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 23:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Filter and direct mail (two users with one account and one pine) Date: 15 Nov 95 05:45:07 GMT Message-Id: References: Ralf Wenzel writes: >[3.91, unix system v] >The greatest Love of my live *smile* wants to send a few mails, but she >wants not [does not want] to have an own account. >Now i thought that it would be possible to define two incoming folders >and install a program that can direkt HER mails to HER incoming folder >and MY mails to MY incoming folder. >That program should be able to direct the mail in depedence on i.e. the >subject or the address (To- or From-Field) or perhaps the content of the body. Use a filter! Problem: The filter cannot tell you two apart as you're using the same address. So the filter can only sort mails depending on the subject. This can only be done iff the sender knows which subject to chose to send to either you or your girlie. If the sender fails to send the correct subject then the filter won't know. It's a lot easier to get an account be done with. Anyway, allowing others on your account is "verboten"! >I need the name of some of such programs (and the location of such >programs (i.e. ftp-server)) and a "how-to-install-manual" for that. ... and a person who does the installation for you. And another one to explain it to you. >Please send a Cc of your answer to ma (PM). PM := PostMail := Email (BBS hackers - sheesh!) Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 00:06:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27865; Wed, 15 Nov 95 00:06:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14013; Tue, 14 Nov 95 23:57:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14007; Tue, 14 Nov 95 23:57:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFchv-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 23:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Signature Date: 15 Nov 1995 06:48:41 GMT Message-Id: <48c2g9$8ta@fu-berlin.de> References: Karoly Negyesi asks: > How could you use _two_ signatures in Pine? One for public, one for private. Ralf Wenzel answers: >Use the ctrl-r-feature when the cursor is in the body of the mail you're >writing. Yes, reading in a signature with your editor's "read file" command is the way it always works. But I believe that Karoly wants to know whether PINE can have a "list of signatures". It sure would be nice if you could define a context for signatures, eg via some kind of "rule file". Scenario: if (to == address1) then appendsig file1 if (to = group1) then appendsig group1sig if (to = localhostname) then appendsig companysig if (to = adressoffriend) then appendsig funsig if (true) then appendsig personalsig It would be even nicer if the signatures get stripped to 4 lines and 80 columns. :-) ELM distinguishes a "localsignature" and "remotesignature". Does PINE have such a feature? Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 00:10:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28068; Wed, 15 Nov 95 00:10:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13145; Wed, 15 Nov 95 00:02:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13139; Wed, 15 Nov 95 00:02:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFckR-00038CC; Tue, 14 Nov 95 23:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Offline reader Date: 15 Nov 95 06:15:35 GMT Message-Id: References: <488s7c$860@news.ios.com> pstark@haven.ios.com (Peter Stark) writes: >... software ... to read a downloaded mail folder locally on my pc. "readmail"! Ask archie where to find it. Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 01:47:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01569; Wed, 15 Nov 95 01:47:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15933; Wed, 15 Nov 95 01:33:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15927; Wed, 15 Nov 95 01:33:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFeBd-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 01:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vjl@netcom.com (Vince LaMonica) Subject: Reading news with multiple .newsrcs? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 06:57:38 GMT I'm currently using Pine3.91 to read netnews (NETCOM doesn't yet allow us access to their NNTP server, so I can't post using Pine). I have recently decided to split my .newsrc file up into several files and alias tin to start up netnews reading with a file I choose (I used the -f arg). That way I have netnews sorted to my needs (ie: if I want to view only clari news, I have a .clarinews file which includes the clari.* heirarchy). Is there some way for Pine to read more than one .newsrc file so I can read all newsgroups with the above setup? Thanks in advance for any info y'all can provide. -- vjl@netcom.com The day the earth crumbled: The Stones sell Windoze95 Vince LaMonica "Start me up - I'll never stop" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 02:33:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03156; Wed, 15 Nov 95 02:33:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15755; Wed, 15 Nov 95 02:23:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15749; Wed, 15 Nov 95 02:23:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFew5-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 02:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "=)" Subject: Re: News Read Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <48am1f$jqe@gnu.mat.uc.pt> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:25:29 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 On 14 Nov 1995, Rui Pedro Loureiro wrote: > I need some help. Can i read news with pine? YES. Who? I dont know... At the Pine main menu, press S for Setup, C for Config. Then enter the address of your NNTP server into the field "nntp-server". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 03:09:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04443; Wed, 15 Nov 95 03:09:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17369; Wed, 15 Nov 95 02:48:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17363; Wed, 15 Nov 95 02:48:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFfL3-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 02:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cjbrown Subject: Re: pico/pine for qnx? Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 21:20:30 -0500 Message-Id: References: <47lsft$st8@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47lsft$st8@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz> On 7 Nov 1995, Simon Lyall wrote: > Has anybody ported these programs across to QNX? I want it too. I can't stand tin on the quics bbs. Christopher Brown, Brown Computer Company, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709-3381 USA, +1 919 361 5118 voice, +1 919 544 8970 fax From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 03:53:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05530; Wed, 15 Nov 95 03:53:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17107; Wed, 15 Nov 95 03:43:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17101; Wed, 15 Nov 95 03:43:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFgF4-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 03:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Pine and PGP Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:23:18 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 11 Nov 1995, Chandrabose ARAVINDAN wrote: > Can anyone please send me pointers/suggestions/advice on seamlessly > integrating PGP and PINE? Someone should put together a FAQ about this. (Ok, maybe I'll do it). There are a variety of tools. All of them involve invoking some script as your alternative editor. In order to work with incoming mail you have to "reply" to it (you don't need to send the reply) to get into the alternate editor. I am aware of the existence of at least four programs such systems that work with pine (and presumably any other Unix mailer which can use an "alternate editor"). The one that I use (but that doesn't mean that it is the best, only that it is the first one I came across which does what I need) is mkpgp which is a csh script that will not only call pgp as appropriate but, ispell, encryption for attachments, will try to fetch keys from keyservers, etc. You can get it by sending mail to deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with Subject "mkpgp" (without the quotes) A list of some tools is available at http://www.ifi.uio.no/pgp/utils.shtml which can be reached from the International PGP home page http://www.ifi.uio.no/pgp/ One is "Bryce's AutoPGP" which is a fairly recent development, but I haven't tried it. Putatively there is something called AutoPGP (distinct from Bryce's), but I don't know where that can be found. There is also something known as editpgp (but I don't know where it's home is either). Additionally, many of these tools are available from any good pgp ftp site, such as ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp . If anyone has additions, amplifications or corrections please send me mail, and I will compile a list if Pine and Unix PGP tools (does PC-Pine work with an alternative editor?) and will forward the list to the maintainers of various archives and websites. Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBMKnNkRu6nIqxqP+5AQGUzwQAuaj2Obs/4JXDQcLxZps3++14m5wcqYLo UhGgpgeDpq+o0S4xkbfCxgrXhi71HqiMf9M0SNb4eUMyIBSFV/kCjkEDikE7Up3j E+ojTVrXvGsW++WWBQlpRlaGel221Z0HGn7BDOi+ZJaGGcniu2QjqW+tQRTkIfWs Kmsf6X4LJD8= =XeOe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 04:42:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06769; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:42:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19153; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:33:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19147; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:33:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFgx5-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eli@cal44a034.student.utwente.nl (Eli-Jean R. Leyssens) Subject: Re: Features requested for next version Date: 15 Nov 1995 11:31:54 GMT Message-Id: <48cj3a$ce2@driene.student.utwente.nl> References: <47upsi$pq1@lantana.singnet.com.sg> 21? ) Easy (standard) way of having an alternate From: line in the Setup-Config 22 ) possibility to make Pine include files UUEncoded or BinHex encoded rather than having to UUEncode (or BinHex) them yourselves and then include those in your mail Greetz, Eli-Jean From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 04:48:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06888; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:48:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18016; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:33:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18010; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:33:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFgxh-00038DC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kim@shell.portal.com (Kim DeVaughn) Subject: Re: TRN: to change my e-mail address. Date: 15 Nov 1995 03:18:52 -0800 Message-Id: <48cias$l0s@jobe.shell.portal.com> References: <47p7gg$919@shellx.best.com> <487i9c$hp@maggie-black.austin.wireline.slb.com> In article , Sven Guckes wrote: | | Manzoor ul Hassan writes: | > | >I' dlike to change the e-mail address to reply to when I'm posting via trn. | >From home I usually use Netscape, but sometimes I need/have to use trn from | >the unix shell to read/post news groups. When I do this me e-mail address | >is sent as the defualt that has been set by my ISP. I would like to | >change it to a different one. Is it possibel ? | | I am sure trn gives you a setup file for specifying your email address. | That's usually the case when the default is used. RTFM! It is NOT the responsibility of a newsreader to ofrm and format the "From: " line of an article's header. That IS the responsibility of the news transport s/w, such as inews, etc. Now why don't *you* RTFRFC! Sheesh ... To answer Manzoor's original question ... on most UNIX systems, you only need to set the NAME env var to whatever you want, and the transport s/w should pick it up. Ie: setenv NAME "Your Name" in your .cshrc file for csh/tcsh users, or NAME="Your Name" export NAME in your .profile for sh/ksh users. If that doesn't do the trick, here's a workaround ... you MAY be able to add your own properly formatted "From: " line to the article header, and have it pass thru the news transport s/w unaltered. This does work with "inews" ... I dunno about other transport pgms. For example, put the following line in a file: From: hassan@austin.asc.slb.com (Manzoor ul Hassan) and suck it into your article as the 1st line of the header. If that works, and you want to automate the process, you'll need to make a copy of the "Pnews" shell-script that trn uses to build headers, startup your editor, etc, and modify it to add in your "From: " line. Then you tell trn to use your version of Pnews by setting the NEWSPOSTER env var appropriately. See trn's man page for further info on this env var. /kim ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kim DeVaughn [ "All sweet things have one thing in common ... ] kim@shell.portal.com [ ... a tendency to make you sick." --Soolin ] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 04:59:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07150; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:59:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19301; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:43:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19289; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:43:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFh94-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 04:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Suppressing "@userdomain" in @-less To Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:00:07 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One solution to a problem I have (described below, but not really needed to understand the question) would be to suppress Pine's insistance on rewriting (in a to or cc field) "foo" as "foo@userdomain". Alternatively, is there a way to get pine to use an different "userdomain" for the To and Cc (and Bcc) fields then for the From field. I would like a solution that can be done in pine.conf. That is, a solution that has each user modifying their own .pinerc is not satisfactory. Because we run on a variety of different platforms (many sharing the same pine.conf) I would really not like to have to modify the pine source and recompile (in particular, I don't want to recompile either PC-Pine or VMS-Pine). I am willing to entertain such a solution if I can expect I will not have to do the same for future releases. The Problem: As I mentioned above, it is not really essential that you understand the problem that I am trying to solve to help answer the question, but maybe you see alternative solutions (there are alternative solutions which I am also exploring) For the examples, I will use my username (cc047) and nickname "J.Goldberg" and my (usual) local host (xdm011.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk), and our smtp server (calisto.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk). Our smtp server (running pp, not sendmail) will do a number of things When it receives and smtp connection sending mail with a from line like (userid@subdomain.cranfield.ac.uk) it will rewrite it as Nickname@cranfield.ac.uk. So in my case, if it is handed From: cc047@xdm011.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk it will rewrite that as From: J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk However, if it receives something like From: cc047@Cranfield.ac.uk it will not attempt to rewrite it. On the otherhand if it gets something to RCPT To: G.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk (A non-existent user) It will provide immediate feedback that the user is unknown. It will also do the same with RCPT To: G.Goldberg This means that Pine can refuse to send the message. However, if the smpt server is handed RCPT To: G.Goldberg@xdm011.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk It will accept the message, and the error will only be reported as a bounce later on. Obviously the correct solution is to modify all of our pp tables to somehow get the rewriting we need, but that requires understanding pp which is somehow not as easy as understanding pine. -jeff Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 06:08:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08494; Wed, 15 Nov 95 06:08:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18928; Wed, 15 Nov 95 05:48:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18922; Wed, 15 Nov 95 05:48:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFiBZ-00038DC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 05:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kim@shell.portal.com (Kim DeVaughn) Subject: Re: TRN: to change my e-mail address. Date: 15 Nov 1995 05:33:25 -0800 Message-Id: <48cq75$qlm@jobe.shell.portal.com> References: <487i9c$hp@maggie-black.austin.wireline.slb.com> <48cias$l0s@jobe.shell.portal.com> In article <48cias$l0s@jobe.shell.portal.com>, I wrote: | | To answer Manzoor's original question ... on most UNIX systems, you only | need to set the NAME env var to whatever you want, and the transport s/w | should pick it up. Ie: setenv NAME "Your Name" in your .cshrc file for | csh/tcsh users, or NAME="Your Name" | export NAME in your .profile for sh/ksh users. Ooooops! Manzoor was asking about changing the *address* ... not the name in the "From: " line. Sooooo ... you should ignore the above. However, the workaround I mentioned in my previous post *may* still work (depending on any checking done by the news transport s/w). I apologize for any confusion ... I had just helped a user here on Portal with a similar problem (though his was indeed related to getting the name comment in the From line fixed). /kim ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ["Quantum mechanics, hmmm. You put a cat in a box, ] Kim DeVaughn [ along with a hammer and some poison and a radio- ] kim@shell.portal.com [ active isotope ... I forget exactly how this goes. ] [ Anyway, keep some bandages on hand, because I ] [ guarantee the cat won't be happy." -Jack-Jack Snyder] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 07:27:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10814; Wed, 15 Nov 95 07:27:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21718; Wed, 15 Nov 95 07:20:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21712; Wed, 15 Nov 95 07:20:30 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA06924 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:18:07 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA07425 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:19:47 +0300 (OET) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:20:34 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Suppressing "@userdomain" in @-less To X-Sender: bor@itsmx1.mow.sni.de In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > One solution to a problem I have (described below, but not really needed > to understand the question) would be to suppress Pine's insistance > on rewriting (in a to or cc field) "foo" as "foo@userdomain". > I strongly support this and would like to put it on the wish list. It should be possible to suppress adding the local domain to every unqualified address (also in From: header). It should be run-time configurable (how am I supposed to recompile LWP Pine?) It not only the problem mentioned in original message. We have internal mail system which doesn't use domains at all (in Internet sense). Every message gets my local host name tacked on. It is possible to modify sendmail to get around, but it requires additional lookups which slow down sendmail (as name space is somewhat large). > Alternatively, is there a way to get pine to use an different "userdomain" > for the To and Cc (and Bcc) fields then for the From field. > Is it really neccessary? Either user is local and don't need domain at all, or user is remote and already have domain in any case. ---------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 09:01:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15089; Wed, 15 Nov 95 09:01:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23631; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:43:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23625; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:43:35 -0800 Received: from ciint by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA13054 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 17:43:30 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa24974; 15 Nov 95 17:18 WET Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:17:41 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: "Paul J. Schinder" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MAC-BINHEX 4.0 In-Reply-To: <48aodq$j56@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to thank everyone who helped us to solve the MAC-BINHEX problem. It turned out that the person sending us the message didn't even have a Mac. Instead, he used an old version of PC Eudora that apparently automatically uses BINHEX for file attachments. It seems that he should upgrade FAST! Anyway, I've learned to politely ask all people who send BINHEX files to our Unix system to resend them using BASE64 encoding. You'll learn something new every day ;-) Thanks again for all your help! Best regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | ...at a time when men were REAL men and | | CI International B.V. | wrote their own device drivers (Linus) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 09:20:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16824; Wed, 15 Nov 95 09:20:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22751; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:53:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ahcbsd1.ovnet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22742; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:53:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (jcobb@localhost) by ahcbsd1.ovnet.com (8.6.5/8.6.6) id LAA13801; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:45 -0500 (EST) From: "James M. Cobb" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News Read In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Friend, On 11 14 95 Loureiro asked how to read news with pine. On 11 15 95 jyetse answered At the Pine main menu, press S for Setup, C for Config. Then enter the address of your NNTP server into the field "nntp-server". To read news with pine on ovnet.com, these are the specific entries I've had to make: personal-name = James M. Cobb user-domain = ahcbsd1.ovnet.com ... nntp-server = 198.77.1.4 Note that an IP address is used. ... news-collections = *{198.77.1.4/nntp}[] Note the * right before the brace. Note that an IP address is used. Note there are no spaces inside the braces. Note that right after the end-brace, there's a pair of brackets (which may look like a tiny rectangle on your screen). Note there is no space inside the brackets. Note braces are nei- ther parentheses nor brackets. If only an IP address will work on your system, then you may have to ask your system operator to provide you such an address. Good luck! Cordially, Jim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 09:52:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19111; Wed, 15 Nov 95 09:52:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24009; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:58:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24003; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:58:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFl6Z-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreardon@sound.net (Mike Reardon) Subject: Pine and Data General Aviion Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:27:31 -0600 Message-Id: I am attempting to compile Pine 3.91 to run on Data general Aviion 8500. I used the build d-g command, and things went fine until I got the following message: make args are "CC=cc" Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=d-g echo d-g > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s ANSI systype cd ANSI/c-client; make d-g make mtest OS=d-g EXTRADRIVERS="" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ RSH=restsh RSHPATH=/usr/bin/restsh \ CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= " RANLIB=true ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo d-g > OSTYPE echo -g -Dconst= > CFLAGS echo > LDFLAGS ln -s os_d-g.h osdep.h cc -g -Dconst= -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto \ -DRSH=\"restsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bin/restsh\" \ -c os_d-g.c *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 Making Pico Making Pine. Links to executables are in bin directory: bin/pico: 126712 + 25708 + 7140 = 159560 Done Pico compiled just fine, and I can run it, but Pine did not compile. Any help on what to do would be much appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 10:27:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21528; Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:27:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25741; Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:20:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25735; Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:20:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFlfy-00038DC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 09:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Pankhurst Subject: UUDECODE Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:43:42 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can you get a UUDECODER for pine? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ `/\__/\' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Pankhurst ({0}{0}) tel : 0731 21216 Gutenbergstrasse 6, -{'`}- david.pankhurst@ B104, 89073 Ulm, D \/ student.uni-ulm.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 11:18:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25411; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:18:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28587; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:10:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28581; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:10:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFnBp-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hakala@kyyppari.hkkk.fi (Juko Hakala) Subject: pico & 8bit Date: 15 Nov 1995 16:20:54 GMT Message-Id: <48d416$8eq@kokki.hkkk.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In short. Is there a way to configure pico to handle 8 bit data? Regards Juko -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- - Juko Hakala / Helsinki School of Economics, Computing Centre - - hakala@hkkk.fi - ---------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 11:19:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25477; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:19:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27578; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:10:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27572; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:10:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFnBp-00038DC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: proveit@mack.rt66.com (Mr. Sarang Gupta) Subject: Re: sender's address incorrect Date: 15 Nov 1995 09:24:11 -0700 Message-Id: <48d47b$dbj@mack.rt66.com> References: <47nndd$1eoi@emngw1.eastman.com> In article , Terry Gray wrote: >The "From MARIA..." line is *NOT* part of the RFC-822 header set. >The absence of the 822 From: suggests a bug or misconfiguration of the >MUA or mail transport software at the originating site, although in cases >where UUCP is involved, I believe it often falls to the receiving MTA to >fix the messages before storing them in the incoming mail spool. I had this problem in a similar context. It seems the mail program ELM generates "From" lines without colons (ie, in the format "From person date"). It's possible (probable?) that ELM predates RFC-822. My boss solved the problem by telling ELM users who sent him email (ie, me ) to stop using ELM and start using PINE. You might try this and/or switching to ELM (ELM has no problem with colon-less From lines; my boss was less than enthusiastic about my suggestion he switch to ELM). Sarang (proveit@rt66.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 11:44:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27071; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:44:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28747; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:39:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28741; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:39:30 -0800 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA07309; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:39:18 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:39:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UUDECODE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, David Pankhurst wrote: > Can you get a UUDECODER for pine? in 3.91 you can use the "PIPE" command: when reading your mail...and run into uuencoded mail...type |uudecode this will result in the uudecoded file being dropped in your current directory. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 11:45:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27140; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:45:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29680; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:38:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail01.uwec.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29674; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:38:18 -0800 Received: from [137.28.108.22] by mail01.uwec.edu; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:36:44 -0600 X-Sender: oshaugbj@mail01.uwec.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian O'Shaughnessy Subject: Reducing screen info Message-Id: <30aa414d3c84002@mail01.uwec.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:36:54 -0600 I am postmaster at the University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire. We have approx 12000 students on campus and of course some of those have disablities. We have one student who is blind. She has an electronic reader that reads everything on the screen. This allows her to use computers. When using Pine, the reader reads every character on the screen before she can type anything. To start, I would like a way to remove the "menu" from the bottom of the compose window. Does anybody know of a way to do this? *************************************** Brian O'Shaughnessy Postmaster University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire Computing & Networking Services email: oshaugbj@uwec.edu phone: (715) 836-6026 *************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 11:46:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27187; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:46:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28771; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:40:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rmy.rmy.emory.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28767; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:40:14 -0800 Received: by rmy.rmy.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_rmy.3.4.0) via MAILPROG id AA26686 ; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:32:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:32:45 -0500 (EST) From: Chang-Kwei Lin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Strange pine mail behavior Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Our users have occasionally received e-mail via pine with the first line of the body text missing. If you then view it via the Header mode, then you can see the missing first line. I have trid open the mail folder using the 'vi' editor, and found that the first line of the body text was somehow being placed as part of the header right before the 'Status: R0' line. Does anyone know why and how to correct the problem ? Thanks !! ---------------------- SAMPLE ------------------------------------- >From eliz@rmy.emory.edu Fri Nov 10 19:46:51 1995 Received: from rmys3.rmy.emory.edu by rmy.rmy.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_rmy.3.4.0) via SMTP id AA00509 ; Fri, 10 Nov 95 19:46:50 -0500 Received: by rmys3.rmy.emory.edu.rmy (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20341; Fri, 10 Nov 95 19:45:57 EST Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:45:57 -0500 (EST) From: Elizabeth Strobert To: Harold McClure Cc: Brent Swenson Subject: Re: Surveys In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am forwarding this message and my response to you just to "set the Status: RO X-Status: record straight" since I doubt that Kim will do so. I received this e- mail from Kim as you can see. I spoke with her on the phone later and ..... ..... ---------------------- SAMPLE ------------------------------------- This message sent via email from ########################################################################### Chang-Kwei Lin || YERKES email -- lin Yerkes Research Center || UUCP email -- ...!gatech!emory!rmy!lin Emory University || Atlanta GA 30322 || DOMAIN email -- lin@rmy.emory.edu (404) 727-7749 || FAX -- (404) 727-7845 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 12:32:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29978; Wed, 15 Nov 95 12:32:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00441; Wed, 15 Nov 95 12:23:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00432; Wed, 15 Nov 95 12:23:02 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA25899; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:25:29 +0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:25:29 -0500 (EST) From: Amy Kimmel X-Sender: akimmel@mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 445 I have been sending messages to get help but nobody will help me. When I get into my e-mail account I get the message on the bottom saying "Trying mailbox lock from process 19443" and then I also get "mailbox is open by another process". I can't delete anything and I don't understand why. I never locked my keyboard and nobody seems to know why it is doing this. Please help me. I already have over 100 messages in a few short hours. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 13:08:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02422; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:08:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01621; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:01:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01615; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:01:01 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tFo1W-000sF2C; Wed, 15 Nov 95 22:01 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 15 Nov 95 22:00 MEZ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:00:01 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Amy Kimmel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm not sure which unix you use, but try from a unix shell ps -ef|grep 19443 if you get an error message try ps aux|grep 19443 you should get two lines, look at the end, one is your command (grep), the other one is the command which locks your mail folder. If you get only one line with your command, than there is an old lock from (perhaps) a crashed PINE. If you haven't done already quit PINE. You should remove the process 19443 an restart PINE. Now all should be OK. If you only got one line with your grep command, then there is an old lockfile, perhaps from a crashed PINE. You must find out where the lockfile is and delete it (Mine is usually /tmp/.18.xxx) But my guess is that you once suspended PINE and instead of coming back started a new PINE. Then you should quit your PINE and come back to the old one. Perhaps this solves your problem. Ciao fro cold Hamburg, Michael On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Amy Kimmel wrote: > I have been sending messages to get help but nobody will help me. When I > get into my e-mail account I get the message on the bottom saying "Trying > mailbox lock from process 19443" and then I also get "mailbox is open by > another process". I can't delete anything and I don't understand why. I > never locked my keyboard and nobody seems to know why it is doing this. > Please help me. I already have over 100 messages in a few short hours. > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE The Kappamaki, a whaling research ship, was currently researching the question: How many whales can you catch in one week? (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 13:22:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03194; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:22:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02311; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:18:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02305; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:18:45 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA28490; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:21:05 +0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:21:05 -0500 (EST) From: Amy Kimmel X-Sender: akimmel@mail To: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 176 I typed in ps -ef|grep 19443 and I got this: akimmel 19443 1 80 0:03 akimmel 28166 27963 4 16:15:06 pts/77 0:00 grep 19443 what do I do from here? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 13:36:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04323; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:36:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03895; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:31:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03884; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:30:58 -0800 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA16819; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:30:32 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:30:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: Amy Kimmel Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: HELP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Amy Kimmel wrote: > I have been sending messages to get help but nobody will help me. When I > get into my e-mail account I get the message on the bottom saying "Trying > mailbox lock from process 19443" and then I also get "mailbox is open by > another process". I can't delete anything and I don't understand why. I > never locked my keyboard and nobody seems to know why it is doing this. > Please help me. I already have over 100 messages in a few short hours. see if you have any other PINE processes running - i.e. try: ps -ef | grep pine This should show you any other terminals at which you have sessions running or runaway pines. you might alsow try: ps -fu akimmel to see what you have running on the system. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 13:38:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04395; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:38:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03898; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:31:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03886; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:31:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFpMY-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chester Paul S'groi Subject: Pine SZ & MIME vs. UUENCODING binary mail files Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:49:02 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII First item - Downloading in Pine discussion: I notice that it is possible in pipe to Unix commands while in Pine 3.91 on a Digital Unix box by setting up this option in the SETUP/CONFIG file. Once I noticed this feature, I thought it would be neat to see if I could pipe to SZ while viewing a message so that I could have Pine send my message via ZModem to my home machine. However, when I did |sz while viewing the message I wanted to send, I only got as far as the ZModem options menu. Doing |sz -b produced the same result. I need to somehow tell SZ what filename to send but there appears no way to do this. Any ideas of where I could go from there? Should this maybe be added as a feature for the next release of Pine? What I mean is, could Pine be developed in such a way so that the user is given an option of sending the message they are viewing via a transfer protocol like Kermit or ZModem instead of having to export the message to their main directory and stuff? Yes, I know that one can SZ files in one's mail directories from one's shell but the disadvantage of doing this is that all the single mail messages in a Pine mail folder are combined in a single file. Enabling this "proposed" feature would get around this. What I am talking about is setting up Pine to do what lynx does when one chooses the download option. Second Item - Sending Binary files through mail: Mime vs. Uuencode I notice that it is possible to send binary files through e-mail (like GIF picture files, spreadsheets, programs, MS Word files, etc) by either first uuencoding the file and sending it through Pine or by using Pine's built in MIME encooder. My query is this. I often have students send files to me and they often have problems grasping computer concepts. Is it better for the file [and the mail system as a whole] to send binaries as uuencoded or MIME files? Please advise. Thanks! :) Regards, Chester Paul S'groi Pax Christi cps1@axe.humboldt.edu or csgroi@nyx.cs.du.edu |============================|================================================| | PERMANENT ADDRESS | E-MAIL INFORMATION | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Chester Paul S'groi | Curiousity may have killed the cat, | | Post Office Box 4346 SIG | but a cat has nine (9) lives! | | Arcata, CA 95518 LAST | http://www.humboldt.edu/~cps1/ | | (707) 822-1234, UPDATED | cps1@axe.humboldt.edu | | (707) 444-1015 11/3/95| chester@nebula.net Pax Christi | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 14:14:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06809; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:14:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04256; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:10:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04250; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:10:15 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06420; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:08:42 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:08:41 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Brian O'Shaughnessy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reducing screen info In-Reply-To: <30aa414d3c84002@mail01.uwec.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Brian, For version 3.92 (still no date, but getting ever closer!) several features have been added to assist the visually impaired, including the ability to turn off the key menu. -teg On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Brian O'Shaughnessy wrote: > I am postmaster at the University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire. We have approx > 12000 students on campus and of course some of those have disablities. We > have one student who is blind. She has an electronic reader that reads > everything on the screen. This allows her to use computers. When using > Pine, the reader reads every character on the screen before she can type > anything. > > To start, I would like a way to remove the "menu" from the bottom of the > compose window. Does anybody know of a way to do this? > > > *************************************** > Brian O'Shaughnessy > Postmaster > University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire > Computing & Networking Services > email: oshaugbj@uwec.edu > phone: (715) 836-6026 > *************************************** > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 14:32:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07706; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:32:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05836; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:25:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05826; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:25:20 -0800 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA08608; Wed, 15 Nov 95 23:22:46 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 23:22:44 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Chester Paul S'groi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine SZ & MIME vs. UUENCODING binary mail files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Chester Paul S'groi wrote: > First item - Downloading in Pine discussion: >=20 > I notice that it is possible in pipe to Unix commands while in Pine 3.91 > on a Digital Unix box by setting up this option in the SETUP/CONFIG file.= =20 > Once I noticed this feature, I thought it would be neat to see if I could > pipe to SZ while viewing a message so that I could have Pine send my > message via ZModem to my home machine. However, when I did |sz while > viewing the message I wanted to send, I only got as far as the ZModem > options menu. Doing |sz -b produced the same result. I need to somehow > tell SZ what filename to send but there appears no way to do this. Any > ideas of where I could go from there? Should this maybe be added as a > feature for the next release of Pine? What I mean is, could Pine be > developed in such a way so that the user is given an option of sending th= e > message they are viewing via a transfer protocol like Kermit or ZModem > instead of having to export the message to their main directory and stuff= ?=20 > Yes, I know that one can SZ files in one's mail directories from one's > shell but the disadvantage of doing this is that all the single mail > messages in a Pine mail folder are combined in a single file. Enabling > this "proposed" feature would get around this. What I am talking about i= s > setting up Pine to do what lynx does when one chooses the download option= . If you do not use a printer, you can set your `printer' as `sz %s' (without quotes), so when you press `Y' and then Yes (or enter), your message will be sent to you via ZMODEM protocol. But it works only if you do not need to print. Or you can try to pipe to something like `cat > /tmp/pine.$$; sz /tmp/pine.$$; rm /tmp/pine.$$', but I didn't try it.=20 Hope it helps, V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 17:20:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17702; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:20:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10294; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:14:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10288; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:14:44 -0800 Received: from uees.edu.ec by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04042; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:14:28 -0800 Received: by uees.edu.ec. (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA05298; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:18:29 -0300 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:18:28 -0300 (CDT) From: MARIUXI CHAVEZ To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 33 I want to sucribe to your list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 17:34:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18453; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:34:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10700; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:31:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10694; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:31:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFtAL-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Keith Reel Subject: Pine hangs when News server down Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:40:48 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here is a problem that rears its ugly head from time to time: We are using Pine 3.91 on a Sun with Solaris 2.4. We also have a Usenet news server running on Linux. Whenever our Usenet News host goes down, Pine users get hung up at the main menu as Pine is "building folder list". We know that this is because when a user sets up his/her folders to read Usenet articles, and the News server is down, Pine looks indefinitely for the news host and just hangs. Is there an option in pine.conf that will get around this? I usually end up swapping versions of Pine from 3.91 to 3.89 until the News host is back up again, but I'd rather have the problem fixed. Thanks Keith Reel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 17:59:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19225; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:59:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12252; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:56:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12246; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:56:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFtYT-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 17:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: initial pine help Date: 15 Nov 95 20:44:16 GMT Message-Id: Is there a way for me to system wide (Unix server) disable the email that gets sent to users the first time that they startup pine. It seems to me that most people say yes, then have this big message hanging around forever. Which of course never gets looked at again but just takes up disk space (when multiplied over 5000 users) -- __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 18:54:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20602; Wed, 15 Nov 95 18:54:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12209; Wed, 15 Nov 95 18:51:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12203; Wed, 15 Nov 95 18:51:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFuP2-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 18:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elmer@wpi.edu (Andrew Toppan) Subject: Re: HELP Date: 15 Nov 1995 22:22:55 GMT Message-Id: <48dp7v$mqi@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: Amy Kimmel (akimmel@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us) reshaped the electrons to say: : I typed in ps -ef|grep 19443 and I got this: : akimmel 19443 1 80 0:03 : akimmel 28166 27963 4 16:15:06 pts/77 0:00 grep 19443 : what do I do from here? >kill 19443 If it doesn't go away, try >kill -9 19443 -- Andrew Toppan --- elmer@wpi.edu --- http://www.wpi.edu/~elmer/ Railroads, Ships and Aircraft Homepage, Tom Clancy FAQ Archive "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 18:57:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20765; Wed, 15 Nov 95 18:57:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13294; Wed, 15 Nov 95 18:52:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13288; Wed, 15 Nov 95 18:52:48 -0800 Received: from usr2.primenet.com (root@usr2.primenet.com [198.68.32.12]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA17822 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 19:52:47 -0700 (MST) Received: (from nils@localhost) by usr2.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id TAA19711 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 19:52:48 -0700 (MST) From: nils mccarthy Message-Id: <199511160252.TAA19711@usr2.primenet.com> Subject: libpico API documentation? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 19:52:47 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I looked through the pine distribution and on the ftp site for information on the API for embedding pico in applications, but I couldn't find it. Does such a beast exist? thanks -nils From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 21:10:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24448; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:10:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15592; Wed, 15 Nov 95 20:57:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15584; Wed, 15 Nov 95 20:57:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFwJ1-00038DC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 20:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Problems with multiple nntp servers Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:14:08 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4824bp$70u@irene.pcug.co.uk> <483sai$91l@shellx.best.com> <48atsn$4l0@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48atsn$4l0@shellx.best.com> On 14 Nov 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > Mark Crispin writes: > Thanks. After some experimenting I discovered that this also works > in IMAP2: > *{imapserver/imap}newsgroup Yes, /imap is the default in a network specification. > Where in the pinerc > does it make sense to put this? It worked in incoming-folders > but I'm wondering where else it makes sense. Wherever you like. > Also, the following works in news-collections: > *{imapserver/imap}[] Yes, this is the normal way > I'm wondering if there's a way to specify a news hierarchy with > something like this: > *{imapserver/imap}#mh/usr/spool/news/hierarchy[] No, it won't work. #mh require a mh profile file with the definition of the mh path. And since the mh driver is read/write, you probably wouldn't want it to work... ;-) > IMAP is the greatest Internet protocol in the universe! > It is the future! Thanks. > It will be the downfall of the PC and Microsoft! Actually, there's some hope of Microsoft adopting IMAP and supporting it as part of their bundled TCP/IP applications. Let's cross fingers... -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 21:35:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25019; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:35:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14949; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:22:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14941; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:22:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFwi0-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP Memory usage? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:17:50 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, David Richards wrote: > What kind of memory does IMAPd take up? > > If a user has a 5Mb mailbox consisting of 300 messages, how much memory > will their IMAPd process occupy? > > 5Mb? > 300 x (size of the header lines) ? > more? less? It depends upon the mailbox format in use. If you use the default Unix mailbox format, imapd keeps a snapshot of the mailbox in memory. If you use certain other formats, such as tenex, only the currently-read message is in memory. Read the Pine Technical Notes for more information. imapd also keeps the results of any prior RFC-822/MIME parses of the message in memory. How much that is depends upon the complexity of the RFC-822 and MIME headers. It only does a parse on demand though, so it isn't likely that all 300 messages will have cached parses. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 21:53:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25640; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:53:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16342; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:42:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16336; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:42:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFx4n-00038CC; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ah@sbbs.se (Anders Henriksson) Subject: PC pine and NT Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:49:55 GMT Message-Id: <30a7af05.0@news.sbbs.se> Hi out there Does anyone no where I can download PC Pine. I would like to test the software under a NT server 3,51 Anders Henriksson ah@sbbs.se From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 15 22:02:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25941; Wed, 15 Nov 95 22:02:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16626; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:56:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16620; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:56:06 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22825; Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:56:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:56:03 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Why To: and not From: posting to newsgroup? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Richard P. O'Sullivan wrote: > > > I have noticed that sending a message 'To:' someone and posting > > it to a newsgroup at the same time cause the newsgroup item to show the > > 'To:' address rather than the 'From:' address? This looks funny. Is > > this a feature or a fluke? > > For good or for ill, it's the way Pine works. > > Paul It's not just for news that it does that. Whenever you are reading a message that you sent it will show the recipient (To) instead of showing that you sent it. This was thought to be more useful. In 3.92 you'll be able to make it always show From if you prefer that. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 00:44:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29707; Thu, 16 Nov 95 00:44:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18683; Thu, 16 Nov 95 00:37:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18677; Thu, 16 Nov 95 00:37:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tFzot-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 00:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: UUDECODE Date: 15 Nov 1995 18:32:20 -0800 Message-Id: <48e7rk$20j@shellx.best.com> References: brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca ("Brian P. Hampson") writes: >in 3.91 you can use the "PIPE" command: > >when reading your mail...and run into uuencoded mail...type > >|uudecode If someone is using PC Pine for Windows is there a uudecode for DOS that can be piped to? Where on the Net can I find such a thing? Thanks much, Nancy (wishing everyone just used MIME) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 01:28:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00555; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:28:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20016; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:12:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20010; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:12:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG0L6-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Suppressing "@userdomain" in @-less To Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:26:09 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The brief answer is: An email address without an "@domain" is in violation of RFC-821, RFC-822, and other email specifications. Pine complies with these specifications. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 01:45:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00952; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:45:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19445; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:32:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19439; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:32:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG0c5-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dr@ripco.com (David Richards) Subject: IMAP server devours RAM. Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 05:03:41 GMT In article , Terry Gray wrote: >Short answer: Yes, provided you use reasonably fast disks, and moderately >small ones (e.g. 1GB). That is, you will be limited by seek bandwidth. >Also, if you are using the UW IMAP server, we suggest using Tenex format >mail files, as they are more memory-efficient than mbox format files. Specifically, if you use a standard (^A^A^A^A or From separated) Unix mailbox format then IMAP will keep a copy of the entire mailbox in memory for as long as the client is connected to the server. This kills my hopes for using IMAP on a large scale, since RAM is still expensive and swapping kills system performance. Plus of course my MDA doesn't support Tenex format. -- David Richards Ripco Communications Inc. My opinions are my own, Public Access in Chicago But they are available for rental FREE Usenet and Email dr@ripco.com (312) 665-0065 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 02:07:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01353; Thu, 16 Nov 95 02:07:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20576; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:57:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20570; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:57:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG105-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: emr61902@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Erik M Rowan) Subject: Q: Can Pine ignore senders? Date: 16 Nov 1995 08:50:24 GMT Message-Id: <48eu0g$2nk@news.cc.ucf.edu> I receive unwelcomed mail all of the Erik's at UCF who want to start an Erik club. Can Pine automatically ignore these messages, I have a list of the email address I would like to ignore. Thank you, Erik Rowan emr61902@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 02:55:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02180; Thu, 16 Nov 95 02:55:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20358; Thu, 16 Nov 95 02:42:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20352; Thu, 16 Nov 95 02:42:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG1ls-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 02:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Iztok.Umek@snet.fer.uni-lj.si Subject: Sendmail and Pine Date: 16 Nov 1995 08:38:55 +0100 Message-Id: <48epqf$4rj@stealth.fer.uni-lj.si> Hello! Well I did set up sendmail 8.7.1 and it works fine with elm, but Pine introduces its own From: line to sendmail and sendmail respects that. How would one stop pine to introduce that line? Because of that I can't get First.Last@host working with pine. Regards, Iztok From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 03:22:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02632; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:22:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21579; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:12:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21567; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:12:36 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA27646 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:10:29 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA12270 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:12:12 +0300 (OET) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:12:58 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow To: Pine Mailing list Subject: Re: Suppressing "@userdomain" in @-less To X-Sender: bor@itsmx1.mow.sni.de In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > The brief answer is: > > An email address without an "@domain" is in violation of > RFC-821, RFC-822, and other email specifications. Pine > complies with these specifications. > >From rfc822: Some message systems may store messages in formats that differ from the one specified in this standard. This specifica- tion is intended strictly as a definition of what message content format is to be passed BETWEEN hosts. Note: This standard is NOT intended to dictate the internal for- mats used by sites, the specific message system features that they are expected to support, or any of the charac- teristics of user interface programs that create or read messages. rfc821 per definition specifies ONLY interaction BETWEEN hosts. How mail is presented to local MTA is LOCAL matter, so far as message leaves the site properly formatted. If you insist on always having domain, just tell it your sendmail :-) ---------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 03:35:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02819; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:35:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21587; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:12:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21581; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:12:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG2Eg-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP server devours RAM. Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:19:42 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, David Richards wrote: > In article , > Terry Gray wrote: > >Short answer: Yes, provided you use reasonably fast disks, and moderately > >small ones (e.g. 1GB). That is, you will be limited by seek bandwidth. > >Also, if you are using the UW IMAP server, we suggest using Tenex format > >mail files, as they are more memory-efficient than mbox format files. > > Specifically, if you use a standard (^A^A^A^A or From separated) Unix > mailbox format then IMAP will keep a copy of the entire mailbox in memory > for as long as the client is connected to the server. > > This kills my hopes for using IMAP on a large scale, since RAM is still > expensive and swapping kills system performance. Plus of course my > MDA doesn't support Tenex format. I think that these statements are overblown. RAM costs about $35/MB. Most modern UNIX systems page instead of swap. The result is that the actual memory consumed is much smaller than the virtual memory. "Swapping kills system performance" is one of these great truisms that get passed around without full understanding. A great deal depends upon the nature of the swapping and of the system configuration. If you swap onto a slow disk that also is busy going filesystem activity, you probably will have a problem. If you configure your system properly, preferably keeping swapping on its own spindle, you will have much less of a problem. The alternative to keeping a snapshot of the mailbox in memory is to use a temporary file when rewriting mbox or MMDF (what you call "standard UNIX mailbox format") file. The reason why another copy is needed is that the Status: and X-Status: lines make it possible for a message to grow into the space consumed by subsequent messages. That's why most other mail programs use the scratch file. The problem is that this requires disk space. Many academic sites have rather tight disk quotas. Put another way, it's easier for a student to get 5MB of RAM than it is for her to get 5MB of free disk space. To make matters worse, on many UNIX systems it is necessary to make sure that the inode doesn't change. This means that the rewrite of the file has to happen on top of the old data. So this means *two* copies of the data, first to the temp file and then back. On most virtual memory UNIX systems, having an in-memory snapshot results in about half the disk traffic than the temp file method. Tenex, mtx, mbx (new in imap-4), and mh formats don't have this problem. This is because it is possible to make updates to mailboxes in these formats without having to worry about overwriting data in subsequent messages. In tenex, mtx, and mbx, it does random-access updates in place on pre-allocated status fields, and expunge is implemented by moving messages down on top of deleted messages. In mh, each message is a separate file. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 04:00:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03231; Thu, 16 Nov 95 04:00:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21288; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:53:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21282; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:53:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG2o5-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jfh3@cus.cam.ac.uk (J.F. Harper) Subject: Re: Features requested for next version Date: 16 Nov 1995 09:45:52 GMT Message-Id: <48f18g$253@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <47upsi$pq1@lantana.singnet.com.sg> <48cj3a$ce2@driene.student.utwente.nl> Sorry if I am repeating someone else's point: I missed the beginning of this thread. Sorry also if I have merely failed to RTFM or UTFM, where U=understand. Anyway: 23 ) when one says q to pine one is immediately asked Really quit pine? and only after answering that question is one asked things like Save the 1 read message in "received"? and Expunge the 1 deleted message from "INBOX"? I would rather be asked the latter kind of question _before_ having to answer the former one because I might not quit if reminded there were still some messages lying around. John Harper (temporarily at Earth Sci. Dept. Downing St. Cambridge UK) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 04:05:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03743; Thu, 16 Nov 95 04:05:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21388; Thu, 16 Nov 95 04:00:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.96.96.111] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21382; Thu, 16 Nov 95 04:00:49 -0800 Received: (from dhs1@localhost) by pub.zjpta.net.cn (8.6.11/8.6.11) id UAA13900; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 20:00:01 +0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 20:00:01 +0800 (CST) From: dhs1@pub.zjpta.net.cn To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 04:49:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04457; Thu, 16 Nov 95 04:49:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22038; Thu, 16 Nov 95 04:34:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22030; Thu, 16 Nov 95 04:34:53 -0800 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA14856; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:34:50 -0500 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA02250; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:34:49 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA20837; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:33:30 EST Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:33:30 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UUDECODE In-Reply-To: <48e7rk$20j@shellx.best.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915846483-1783981885-816525210=:20788" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1915846483-1783981885-816525210=:20788 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 15 Nov 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca ("Brian P. Hampson") writes: > >in 3.91 you can use the "PIPE" command: > > > >when reading your mail...and run into uuencoded mail...type > > > >|uudecode > > If someone is using PC Pine for Windows is there a uudecode for DOS > that can be piped to? Where on the Net can I find such a thing? > See attachment. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com --1915846483-1783981885-816525210=:20788 Content-Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream; name="uudecode.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: uudecode for dos 61+QSW5wdXQgZmlsZSBlcnJvci5PdXRwdXQgZmlsZSBlcnJvci5zdGFydCBu b3QgZm91bmQuRW5kIG5vdCBmb3VuZC4gZXhpc3RzLiBBYm9ydGluZyEAAAAA rAOsA1wDAOj6AehUAb9cA+jRAK09YmV19K09Z2l17q09biB16L9cA7QgrDrE dvusOsR1+6w6xHb7OsR0BKqs6/i6XAMzyYgNgD5gAf90HrROzSE8AnQWPBJ0 EovPK8roLwG6RAG5EgCwBekWAbQ8zSFzA+njAKNYAb9cA+hlAKwKwHRIuyAg KsMKwHQ/MuSL6LkEBqyK4KyK0CvD0OTQ5NLoCsSqTXTUiuKsitArw9Lk0OjQ 6ArEqk10wYrirCvDis3S5ArEqk11x+uw6BUArT1lbnUFrDxkdAPorgDoYQC0 TM0hizZaAYk+XgG9UAC/DAMzwKu5JwC4ICDzq78MAzs2XAFyBug4AOhVAKw8 YHUEsCDrCDwNdBs8CnQYqk113zs2XAFyA+g3AKw8CnXyv1wD67RGiTZaAYs+ XgG+DAPDulwDi8qHDl4BK8p2CoseWAG0QM0hcgHDuhQBuRIA6yK6rAO5VPqL HlYBtD/NIXIMC8B0CIvyA8ajXAHDugMBuREAUOgKAFjpVf+6NgG5DgBSUbo+ A7kCAJDoDABZWugHALo+A7kCAJC7AgC0QM0hw5ANClRoaXMgUHJvZ3JhbSBS ZXF1aXJlcyBET1MgVmVyc2lvbiAyLjAgb3IgaGlnaGVyLg0KJA0KSW5wdXQg cGF0aC9maWxlOiAgTm8gYWN0aW9utDDNITwCcwy6DAO0Cc0huAFMzSHoRgBz M7poBLkbAZDoav+6QQO5FAC7AgC0QM0hv38AxgVQi9e0Cs0h6B4Acwu6VQO5 CQCwAekz/7oEBLgAPc0hcgSjVgHD6Rz/voAAvwQE/KwKwHQvtCCsOsR2+zrE diY8L3QEPC11GIvQiwQ8P3QbJF89TyCLwnUH9hZgAUZGrKqs69j5w8YFAPjD umgE6Wb/kFVVREVDT0RFIHYyLjAAT3JpZ2luYWxseSBieSBUaGVvZG9yZSBB LiBLYWxkaXMAVGhvcm91Z2hseSByZWhhY2tlZCBieSBEYXZpZCBQIEtpcnNj aGJhdW0sIFRvYWQgSGFsbABVVURFQ09ERSBbLT9dWy1vXSBbZDpdW1xwYXRo XF1iaW5hcnkuVVVFIDxSRVRVUk4+DQpVc2luZyB0aGUgZmlsZW5hbWUudHlw IGluIHRoZSAiYmVnaW4iIGxpbmUsDQpwcm9kdWNlcyB1dWRlY29kZWQgZmls ZW5hbWUudHlwIG9uIGN1cnJlbnQgZHJpdmVccGF0aA0KKHByb3ZpZGluZyBm aWxlbmFtZS50eXAgZG9lc24ndCBhbHJlYWR5IGV4aXN0KS4NCi1vIHN3aXRj aCBmb3JjZXMgb3ZlcndyaXRlIG9mIGV4aXN0aW5nIGZpbGVuYW1lLnR5cA0K LT8gcHJvZHVjZXMgdGhpcyBoZWxwIG1lc3NhZ2UuDQok --1915846483-1783981885-816525210=:20788-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 05:51:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05619; Thu, 16 Nov 95 05:51:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23707; Thu, 16 Nov 95 05:43:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23701; Thu, 16 Nov 95 05:43:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG4Yw-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 05:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: + to the left of messages. Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:40:46 GMT Will Linden (wlinden@panix.com) decia: : On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Abraham Gutman wrote: : > Any idea what the "+" means? : It means a message actually addressed to YOU, instead of an alias or list. : Is there any way to select the messages thus marked? There does not : seem to be anything corresponding in "Status". In pine 3.91... select (;), then T(ext), T(o), and then enter your email address and return. It will select all mail sent directely to you. For mail sent to you as a carbon copy (very diferent than from a mailing list), use the same, but instead of T(o), use C(arbon copy). Pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 06:58:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07043; Thu, 16 Nov 95 06:58:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24033; Thu, 16 Nov 95 06:48:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24027; Thu, 16 Nov 95 06:48:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG5a0-00038IC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 06:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccasuzi@tx.technion.ac.il (Susan Feingold) Subject: erasing part of a received-message Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 13:59:02 GMT Message-Id: Is there any way to do this? (please answer by e-mail) @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Dr. Susan J. Feingold e-mail: ccasuzi@aluf.technion.ac.il USG - Computer Center - Technion phone/fax: 972-4-294997/236212 Haifa, Israel 32000 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 07:01:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07123; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:01:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24041; Thu, 16 Nov 95 06:48:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24035; Thu, 16 Nov 95 06:48:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG5Zy-00038HC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 06:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: HELP Date: 16 Nov 1995 07:07:19 GMT Message-Id: <48env7$mjo@guava.epix.net> References: Amy Kimmel (akimmel@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us) wrote: : I typed in ps -ef|grep 19443 and I got this: : akimmel 19443 1 80 0:03 : akimmel 28166 27963 4 16:15:06 pts/77 0:00 grep 19443 : what do I do from here? Uhmmmmm ... subscribe to an ISP ... Only a thought ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 07:03:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07176; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:03:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24674; Thu, 16 Nov 95 06:48:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24668; Thu, 16 Nov 95 06:48:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG5Zx-00038DC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 06:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Request for feature change Date: 16 Nov 1995 13:57:41 GMT Message-Id: <48fg0l$o2r@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> When using the Select Number (; N) command, you aren't currently allowed to specify number ranges such as -50 or 50-. Pine interprets the missing number as a zero and responds with an out of range error. Since selecting to either the beginning or end of my current index is something I often do and suspect others do as well, I request that this behavior be modified such that a missing number be interpolated as either the beginning or end of the allowable range. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris/ System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 07:44:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08499; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:44:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25282; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:23:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25276; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:23:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG65q-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sprec-j@acsu.buffalo.edu (Joel Sprechman) Subject: [Q] Multiple address books? Date: 16 Nov 1995 14:57:22 GMT Message-Id: <48fjgi$4gb@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Hello- I've made the following change to my .pinerc: global-address-book=.addressbook .add2 and inside pine I can go to my address book and I see: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Personal AddressBook <.addressbook> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Global AddressBook <.addressbook> (ReadOnly) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] the first one(personal) is the .addressbook file and the second one(global) is the .add2 file even though it shows it wrong. I can expand both lists to see them correctly. However why is the second one ReadOnly when the protections on the file are ok? thanks in advance joel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Sprechman sprec-j@acsu.buffalo.edu University at Buffalo Marta was watching the football game with me when she said, "You know, most of these sports are based on the idea of one group protecting its territory from invasion by another group." "Yeah," I said, trying not to laugh. Girls are funny. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 07:54:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08793; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:54:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24934; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:37:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24928; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:37:19 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08300; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:37:17 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:37:16 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: David Richards Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP server devours RAM. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David, You can get an mail delivery agent that understands Tenex format from our ftp server. It's called "tmail". I think it's in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z -teg On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, David Richards wrote: > In article , > Terry Gray wrote: > >Short answer: Yes, provided you use reasonably fast disks, and moderately > >small ones (e.g. 1GB). That is, you will be limited by seek bandwidth. > >Also, if you are using the UW IMAP server, we suggest using Tenex format > >mail files, as they are more memory-efficient than mbox format files. > > Specifically, if you use a standard (^A^A^A^A or From separated) Unix > mailbox format then IMAP will keep a copy of the entire mailbox in memory > for as long as the client is connected to the server. > > This kills my hopes for using IMAP on a large scale, since RAM is still > expensive and swapping kills system performance. Plus of course my > MDA doesn't support Tenex format. > -- > David Richards Ripco Communications Inc. > My opinions are my own, Public Access in Chicago > But they are available for rental FREE Usenet and Email > dr@ripco.com (312) 665-0065 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 08:27:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10242; Thu, 16 Nov 95 08:27:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25730; Thu, 16 Nov 95 08:12:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25724; Thu, 16 Nov 95 08:12:55 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09505; Thu, 16 Nov 95 08:12:45 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:12:44 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Joel Sprechman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple address books? In-Reply-To: <48fjgi$4gb@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Joel, 1. pinerc entries need to be separated by commas. 2. The personal addressbook entry is being picked up by default, not because of the value in the *global* variable 3. Global addressbooks are intentionally read-only because they are intended to be shared by multiple users and updated by a cron job. To make them read/write introduces the requirement for record locking, with its associated complexity and performance implications. -teg On 16 Nov 1995, Joel Sprechman wrote: > > Hello- > > I've made the following change to my .pinerc: > > global-address-book=.addressbook .add2 > > and inside pine I can go to my address book and I see: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Personal AddressBook <.addressbook> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Global AddressBook <.addressbook> > (ReadOnly) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] > > > the first one(personal) is the .addressbook file > and the second one(global) is the .add2 file even though it shows it wrong. > I can expand both lists to see them correctly. > > However why is the second one ReadOnly when the protections on the file > are ok? > > thanks in advance > > joel > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joel Sprechman sprec-j@acsu.buffalo.edu > University at Buffalo > > Marta was watching the football game with me when she said, "You know, most of > these sports are based on the idea of one group protecting its territory from > invasion by another group." > "Yeah," I said, trying not to laugh. > Girls are funny. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 08:27:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10296; Thu, 16 Nov 95 08:27:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25887; Thu, 16 Nov 95 08:18:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25881; Thu, 16 Nov 95 08:18:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG70y-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 08:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thewrath@lager.engsoc.carleton.ca (Serge Rivard) Subject: Is there a Pine FAQ? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:22:02 GMT Is there a Pine faq out there somewhere...please let me know where i can get it...thank you. -- Serge. "As soon as Hell freezes over, I'll grab my skis and be the first one to ski the new powder." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 09:51:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15768; Thu, 16 Nov 95 09:51:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29211; Thu, 16 Nov 95 09:34:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from owl.ewu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29205; Thu, 16 Nov 95 09:34:51 -0800 Received: from ewu.edu by ewu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #9372) id <01HXPFT08VEOHTSJFF@ewu.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:35:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:35:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason Pegg... On the Edge..." Subject: Addressbook tech question To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I have a very specific question for anyone out there who knows something about Pine addressbooks, externally created distribution lists, and VMS (like I said, it was fairly specific). We currently have a program that creates mail distribution lists for a rudimentary VMS mailing program. This program creates simple text files for distribution lists. I recently modified this program to make PINE distribution lists. The form is the same as that required for a PINE addressbook distribution list as outlined in the Pine Web page. When PINE reads the file, it sees that it has been modified by an external process (not modified, it's a new file), and it "fixes" it. Unfortunately, PINE destroys it. Has anyone out there had similar problems? I've made sure that the new file is the only addressbook file, I've tried it with the addressbook-lu file there, I've tried it with it absent, you name it. So if anyone has any ideas, please let me know. I've had another person verify the format of the addressbook, so if any of you know of any little "quirks" in the VMS version, please let me know. Thanks! ************************************************************************* Jason W. Pegg Head Consultant email: jpegg@ewu.edu Vice Chairperson, Local ACM jpegg@sirti.org Eastern Washington University WWW: http://acm.ewu.edu/homepage/jason/jason.html Phil 4:4-7 ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 10:41:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18343; Thu, 16 Nov 95 10:41:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01045; Thu, 16 Nov 95 10:33:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01039; Thu, 16 Nov 95 10:33:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG95I-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 10:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alex Kogan Subject: Updating global addressbook in PINE 3.91 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:39:51 GMT References: If PINE is open while the global addressbook is updated (and auxiliarly index updated with dont-sort option), I must close and re-open PINE, in order to use the Global Addressbook. Is this problem familiar to anyone ? Does anyone has any advice how to solve this problem ? Thanks you for cooperation. ---------------------------------------------------- Alex Kogan Phone: 972-8-273236 Email: Alex.Kogan@elex.co.il Fax : 972-8-273264 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 10:48:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18700; Thu, 16 Nov 95 10:48:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01266; Thu, 16 Nov 95 10:39:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01250; Thu, 16 Nov 95 10:39:46 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tG8Id-000sISC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 19:40 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Thu, 16 Nov 95 19:39 MEZ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:38:57 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Iztok.Umek@snet.fer.uni-lj.si Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sendmail and Pine In-Reply-To: <48epqf$4rj@stealth.fer.uni-lj.si> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No you can't. You now have two options: 1) use Reply-To: From the (S)etup/(C)onfig screen add "Reply-To: " to the customized-hdrs list 2) recompile with allowance to override the From: field. This is somewhere in the os-dependent files I don't recall the exact name, but grep for FROM and you should find it. Ciao, Michael PS: Where is si? I know of se for sweden, but si? (Just curios, never mind:-) ) On 16 Nov 1995 Iztok.Umek@snet.fer.uni-lj.si wrote: > Hello! > > Well I did set up sendmail 8.7.1 and it works fine with elm, but Pine > introduces its own From: line to sendmail and sendmail respects that. > > How would one stop pine to introduce that line? > > Because of that I can't get First.Last@host working with pine. > > Regards, > Iztok > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE o be or nut^H^H^H -- sh^Gt, how do I delete..^D^D^D Oh No Oh NO^D^D^D -- How do I get out of this thing anyway (mumble mumble) Bus error (core dumped) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 11:16:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20354; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:16:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02090; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:08:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02084; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:08:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tG9dT-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Problems with multiple nntp servers Date: 16 Nov 1995 08:56:22 -0800 Message-Id: <48fqfm$di6@shellx.best.com> References: <4824bp$70u@irene.pcug.co.uk> <483sai$91l@shellx.best.com> <48atsn$4l0@shellx.best.com> Mark Crispin writes: >On 14 Nov 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: >> >> *{imapserver/imap}newsgroup >> Where in the pinerc >> does it make sense to put this? It worked in incoming-folders >> but I'm wondering where else it makes sense. > >Wherever you like. I just tried it in folder-collections and news-collections and it didn't work. It said something about bad context and no '[' in context. What I'm trying to do is specify a list of about 10 newsgroups in the pinerc rather than in newsrc and I'm wondering where, other than incoming-folders, I could do that. >> Also, the following works in news-collections: >> *{imapserver/imap}[] > >Yes, this is the normal way I'm curious what other ways work. I know about: *{imapserver}[] *{imapserver/nntp}[] But I'm curious what else. >> I'm wondering if there's a way to specify a news hierarchy with >> something like this: >> *{imapserver/imap}#mh/usr/spool/news/hierarchy[] > >No, it won't work. #mh require a mh profile file with the definition of >the mh path. And since the mh driver is read/write, you probably wouldn't >want it to work... ;-) Well, it would be nice to be able to specify news hierarchies, e.g., comp.mail.* in the pinerc. Any plans for that capability? >> IMAP is the greatest Internet protocol in the universe! >> It is the future! > >Thanks. > >> It will be the downfall of the PC and Microsoft! > >Actually, there's some hope of Microsoft adopting IMAP and supporting it >as part of their bundled TCP/IP applications. Let's cross fingers... Even if Microsoft adopts IMAP (which I definitely hope they do), IMAP will help make it easy for little inexpensive "dumb terminals" to access the Net and thus vastly shrink the market for PCs and Windows. These dumb terminals (along with the fact that MS really screwed up about the Internet) is why Bill Gates sounded so scared and defensive in the brief Comdex interview with him I heard on the radio a couple days ago. Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 11:46:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21793; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:46:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02426; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:38:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02420; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:38:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGA7p-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters) Subject: Re: Suppressing "@userdomain" in @-less To Date: 16 Nov 1995 11:35:34 -0600 Message-Id: <48fsp6$o32@Jester.CC.MsState.Edu> References: According to Mark Crispin : > The brief answer is: > > An email address without an "@domain" is in violation of > RFC-821, RFC-822, and other email specifications. Pine > complies with these specifications. But it is the responsibility of the MTA (sendmail or the like) to enforce this, not the MUA. At the very least you should include the option of leaving this up to the MTA. -- Frank Peters - UNIX Systems Group Leader - Mississippi State University fwp@CC.MsState.Edu - 601-325-7030 - FAX: 601-325-8921 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 11:46:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21806; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:46:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03079; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:38:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03073; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:38:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGA8F-00038DC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barnes@hydra.gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com (Simon Barnes) Subject: Re: MAC-BINHEX 4.0 Date: 16 Nov 1995 11:04:31 GMT Message-Id: <48f5rv$h90@alpha.gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> References: In-Reply-To: In article , rgering@ciint.nl (Richard Gering) writes: >So, can anyone come to our rescue? Is there a MAC-BINHEX 4.0 Viewer/Converter >available that can be used with our UNIX Pine? > >I'd welcome any pointer on BINHEX for UNIX, including why anyone would want >to use it. There's a Unix program called xbin which decodes BinHex 4.0 attachments; archie returns plenty of ftp sites. There may or may not be a way of invoking it automatically from Pine but at any rate one can always save the attachment to a file and then decode it. One hopes that BinHex and uuencode will gradually die out in favour of base64 or 8-bit binary. Simon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 12:15:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23183; Thu, 16 Nov 95 12:15:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04018; Thu, 16 Nov 95 12:06:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from h141-206-15-110.ATTGIS.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04012; Thu, 16 Nov 95 12:06:28 -0800 Received: from hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM) by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29093; Thu, 16 Nov 95 12:05:35 PST Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 12:05:35 PST From: Steven Feinholz Message-Id: <9511162005.AA29093@mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Q: pine & ansi I've been experimenting with pine lately, looking for a replacement to SUN's Xwindows based mail tool. A problem I have is that pine works good within a SUN shell window, but when I execute it within telnet login window (over PPP), I get the following termination error message: "Your terminal, of type "ansi", is lacking functions needed to run pine." Is ANSI truly inadequate for pine? BTW, my termcap and terminfo setting for ANSI are virtually the same as they are for VT100. ______________________________________________________________________ ==== AT&T GIS | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 =--=== (Insert | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 =--=== New Name | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 ==== Here) | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | sf3@ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.com ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 13:14:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26703; Thu, 16 Nov 95 13:14:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05475; Thu, 16 Nov 95 13:09:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05469; Thu, 16 Nov 95 13:09:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGBYD-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 13:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Goldarg Subject: Pine Questions. Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:50:07 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok I have some Questions about Pine. Is there a Kill file that i can use when reading news with pine? Is there a way to make incoming mail from certian people go to a differant folder in pine? I am on a couple mailing list and would like the mailing list's to have their own incoming folder. Is there a way to uuencode stuff and uudecode stuff with pine? If these features are not in pine will they be added? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Http://www.azstarnet.com/~goldarg | | Goldarg@azstarnet.com | | Ask Me how to get my Home Page by Mail if you dont have WWW access or | | If you have Telnet Access Ask me for a list of web browers available | | through Telnet Sites,or Email. | | Cheap Programmers For Hire Here! | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 14:44:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02708; Thu, 16 Nov 95 14:44:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08805; Thu, 16 Nov 95 14:39:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08799; Thu, 16 Nov 95 14:39:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGCwf-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 14:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Goldarg Subject: Re: Features requested for next version Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:43:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: <47upsi$pq1@lantana.singnet.com.sg> <48cj3a$ce2@driene.student.utwente.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48cj3a$ce2@driene.student.utwente.nl> On 15 Nov 1995, Eli-Jean R. Leyssens wrote: > 21? ) Easy (standard) way of having an alternate From: line in the > Setup-Config > 22 ) possibility to make Pine include files UUEncoded or BinHex encoded > rather than having to UUEncode (or BinHex) them yourselves and then > include those in your mail > Greetz, > Eli-Jean Well I dont know if its been said or if its allready there but I would likea Kill file for Pine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Http://www.azstarnet.com/~goldarg | | Goldarg@azstarnet.com | | Ask Me how to get my Home Page by Mail if you dont have WWW access or | | If you have Telnet Access Ask me for a list of web browers available | | through Telnet Sites,or Email. | | Cheap Programmers For Hire Here! | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 15:15:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04827; Thu, 16 Nov 95 15:15:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09463; Thu, 16 Nov 95 15:10:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09457; Thu, 16 Nov 95 15:10:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGDN1-00038KC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 15:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fdboer@baan.nl (Feico de Boer) Subject: How to specify user-id for imap in-box Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:24:40 GMT Hello world, Is the following possible in pine: Specify multiple imap in-boxes with different user-id's. I couldn't find something like that in either documentation or source code. The feature would be welcome to me since I would like to check mail from different users (admin stuff etc.) but log-on from one pine. How about specifying POP and IMAP folders like below: incoming-folders=INCOMING inbox, INCOMING some_user {some_user@some.host.domain}inbox, INCOMING other_user {other_user@some.host.domain}inbox Greetings, -- Feico de Boer Baan Europe B.V. Porting Engineer Porting and Benchmarking Center Baron van Nagellstraat 89 Email: fdboer@baan.nl P.O. Box 143 Phone: +31-3420-28888 3770 AC BARNEVELD Fax : +31-3420-28606 The Netherlands [my employer only sponsors the bandwidth, not my opinions] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 16:14:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07857; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:14:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11980; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:09:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11974; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:09:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGEJ1-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Is there a Pine FAQ? Date: 16 Nov 1995 12:57:22 -0800 Message-Id: <48g8ji$t0v@shellx.best.com> References: I have links to all FAQs posted to comp.mail.pine at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/groups/comp/mail/pine/ Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 16:39:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09196; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:39:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12348; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:34:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12342; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:34:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGEkk-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jose Enrique Diaz Jolly (LCI)" Subject: Re: Forwarding Mail Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:06:01 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Bryan J. Vekovius wrote: > Does anyone here know how to forward all mail to another mail server? > I have a separate account and it has become difficult to keep checking > all of my mail accounts. > Thanks > bryan@softdisk.com Yes, on the computer you want incoming mail redirected to another just create a .forward file which contents your login name and the redirection address: #.forward \userid, "another-id@another.machine" ============================================================================== Jose Enrique Diaz Jolly | IEEE Student Branch E-Mail Liaison Laboratorio de Computo de Ingenieria | sb.ulsa@ieee.org - ieee@sunulsa.ulsa.mx Escuela de Ingenieria | e-mail: ediaz@sunulsa.ulsa.mx Universidad La Salle, A.C. | e.diaz-jolly@ieee.org Benjamin Franklin 47 Col. Condesa | http://www.ulsa.mx/home-page.html Mexico 06140 D.F. | Tel. 516-9960 Ext. 2243 ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 16:47:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09812; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:47:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13051; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:44:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13045; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:44:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGErd-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adreyer@uni-paderborn.de (Achim Dreyer) Subject: Quoted-Printable patch Date: 16 Nov 1995 20:54:59 GMT Message-Id: <48g8f3$hbu@news.uni-paderborn.de> Hello, Recently someone posted a statement mentioning a patch for pine to allow sending 8-bit Mails to 8-bit capable Mailers without converting everything to Quoted-Printable. Somewhere in it was an taiwanese e-mail address where to get this patch. Actually I mailed this person but all I got back was an empty mail. So I'm asking : Is there anybody out there who can send me the needed patch ??? Thanx in advance A. Dreyer adreyer@uni-paderborn.de ||| http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~adreyer/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 17:25:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12641; Thu, 16 Nov 95 17:25:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13878; Thu, 16 Nov 95 17:19:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13872; Thu, 16 Nov 95 17:19:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGFOc-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 17:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mudrc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Daniel Crowson) Subject: Needed: Mail reader that works in Wyse60 Emulation! Date: 16 Nov 1995 16:06:00 -0600 Message-Id: <48gck8$kvv@ecom3.ecn.bgu.edu> After spending a couple days trying to "fix" pine and pico to work with Wyse60's under SCO Unix, I've given up. I really need to find some character based mail reader that works in Wyse60 emulation. It need to be easy enough for salesmen. :) I'm open to just about anything now other than /bin/mail. Thanks, Dan --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Crowson | mudrc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu CMS Communications, Inc. | dcrowson@cms.cmsc.com 715 Goddard Ave | dcrowson@mo.net Chesterfield MO 63005 | ^-- mail me here 1st --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 20:10:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17185; Thu, 16 Nov 95 20:10:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17166; Thu, 16 Nov 95 20:05:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17160; Thu, 16 Nov 95 20:05:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGHzn-00038CC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 20:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Karoly Negyesi Subject: Un-digest? Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:28:08 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Is there a feature in Pine to let me read digest messages as separate ones? thanks, ___ ___ Charlie Negyesi chx@cs.elte.hu ___ ___ {~._.~} {~._.~} (+361) 203-5962 (7pm-9pm) {~._.~} {~._.~} _( Y )_ ( * ) Hungary, Budapest ( * ) _( Y )_ (:_~*~_:) ()~*~() H-1462, P.o.box 503 ()~*~() (:_~*~_:) (_)-(_) (_)-(_) May the Bear be with you! (_)-(_) (_)-(_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 20:22:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17522; Thu, 16 Nov 95 20:22:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17414; Thu, 16 Nov 95 20:18:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17408; Thu, 16 Nov 95 20:18:25 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA04917; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 23:20:55 +0500 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 23:20:54 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP In-Reply-To: <48env7$mjo@guava.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1070 On 16 Nov 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > Amy Kimmel (akimmel@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us) wrote: > : I typed in ps -ef|grep 19443 and I got this: > : akimmel 19443 1 80 0:03 > : akimmel 28166 27963 4 16:15:06 pts/77 0:00 grep 19443 > : what do I do from here? > > Uhmmmmm ... subscribe to an ISP ... Only a thought ! Not much of a thought, since we _are_ an ISP. Amy would have gotten more useful advice a lot closer to home had she contacted our Help Desk before asking for help here. We would have killed the offending Pine process, or would have explained how she could do it her self. We would _not_ have told her to use the reboot command like someone on this list did. I finally had to lock her account to stop her from trying. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 20:55:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18399; Thu, 16 Nov 95 20:55:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18310; Thu, 16 Nov 95 20:50:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18304; Thu, 16 Nov 95 20:50:24 -0800 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA09455; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 23:50:20 -0500 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA19188; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 23:50:18 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA29411; Thu, 16 Nov 95 23:49:01 EST Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 23:49:00 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: Daniel Crowson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Needed: Mail reader that works in Wyse60 Emulation! In-Reply-To: <48gck8$kvv@ecom3.ecn.bgu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 16 Nov 1995, Daniel Crowson wrote: > After spending a couple days trying to "fix" pine and pico to > work with Wyse60's under SCO Unix, I've given up. I really need to find > some character based mail reader that works in Wyse60 emulation. It need > to be easy enough for salesmen. :) I'm open to just about anything now other > than /bin/mail. > Why not set your Wyse 60 to VT100 emulation mode. You could do this under software control. Write a script to set your term to vt100, then execute pine, then reset your term on exiting pine. At least I think you can do this. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 16 21:51:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20005; Thu, 16 Nov 95 21:51:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19227; Thu, 16 Nov 95 21:45:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19221; Thu, 16 Nov 95 21:45:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGJbg-00038DC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 21:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krf@hobbes.NebrWesleyan.edu (Kevin R. Fenster) Subject: core dumps on Solaris 2.3 Date: 16 Nov 1995 18:03:18 -0600 Message-Id: <48gjg6$2bf@hobbes.NebrWesleyan.edu> Quick Question: Anybody have a problem with pine dumping core on a Solaris 2.3 machine? Can you provide pointers as to where one should look to figure out why? I was hoping not to have to go through a core file. Everyday I delete about 20-30MB of core files; 95% of them are the result of pine dumping core. I'm using version 3.91 of pine. Thanks for any info anyone can provide. Later, Kevin Fenster Nebraska Wesleyan University krf@NebrWesleyan.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 01:09:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23688; Fri, 17 Nov 95 01:09:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21852; Fri, 17 Nov 95 01:00:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21836; Fri, 17 Nov 95 01:00:33 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA23532 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 09:58:13 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA17369 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 11:59:47 +0300 (OET) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:00:33 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow To: Pine Mailing list Subject: How to create Tenex folder? X-Sender: bor@itsmx1.mow.sni.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks! Sorry for (may be) simple question, but I couldn't find how to do it. How can I force new folder to be in Tenex format? I would like to save the message, folder doesn't yet exist - how do I tell Pine, that it is Tenex and not standard Unix? So far, all folders were cerated as standard Unix. I am using PC Pine 3.91 (Winsock) over IMAP (all folders remote) Thanks for any idea ---------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 04:12:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27261; Fri, 17 Nov 95 04:12:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24137; Fri, 17 Nov 95 03:58:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cpcsat.sfos.ro by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24099; Fri, 17 Nov 95 03:55:18 -0800 Received: from cpcpub.sfos.ro by cpcsat.sfos.ro with SMTP (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA01983; Fri, 17 Nov 95 11:46:53 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cpcpub.sfos.ro (8.7.1/8.6.12) with UUCP id NAA11645 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:41:47 +0200 Received: (from Ulitm@localhost) by commserv.cccis.sfos.ro (8.6.11/8.6.11) with UUCP id OAA23931 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 14:16:08 +0200 Received: (from pm01@localhost) by litm.sfos.ro (8.6.11/8.6.11) id LAA05668; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 11:48:06 +0200 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 11:48:05 +0200 (EET) From: Mircea Poiana To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: hello! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please give me more help! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 04:24:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27537; Fri, 17 Nov 95 04:24:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24230; Fri, 17 Nov 95 04:02:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from max.fys.ruu.nl by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24224; Fri, 17 Nov 95 04:02:24 -0800 Received: from [131.211.24.88] (ruuniw.fys.ruu.nl [131.211.24.88]) by max.fys.ruu.nl (8.7.1/8.7.1/hjm) with SMTP id NAA20775 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:02:20 +0100 (GMT+0100) X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:57:01 +0200 From: "P.C.P. Bronsveld" Message-Id: <46623.bronsvld@mail.fys.ruu.nl> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: RE: Returned mail: User unknown In message Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:27:39 +0100 (GMT+0100), Mail Delivery Subsystem writes: > The original message was received at Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:27:30 +0100 > (GMT+0100) from ruunii.fys.ruu.nl [131.211.24.74] > > ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- > (unrecoverable error) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to docserver.cac.washington.edu.: > >>>> RCPT To: >>>> > <<< 550 ... User unknown > 550 ... User unknown > > ----- Original message follows ----- > > Return-Path: bronsvld@mail.fys.ruu.nl > Received: from [131.211.24.74] (ruunii.fys.ruu.nl [131.211.24.74]) by > max.fys.ruu.nl (8.7.1/8.7.1/hjm) with SMTP id SAA10593 for > ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:27:30 +0100 > (GMT+0100) X-NUPop-Charset: English > Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:22:04 +0200 > From: "P.C.P. Bronsveld" > Sender: bronsvld@mail.fys.ruu.nl > Message-Id: <66127.bronsvld@mail.fys.ruu.nl> > To: pine-info@docserver.cac.washington.edu > Subject: RE: this is a recording (last changed Sep 25 11:31) > > In message Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:42:51 -0800, > UW Email Robot writes: > > >> You have reached an email robot at the University of Washington >> operated on behalf of the Pine development team. >> >> If you'd like to let the team know what you think about Pine or make a >> suggestion that might help improve it, please feel free to send a note >> to: pine@cac.washington.edu >> >> Your comments are appreciated, but it is impossible to answer every >> message so please don't expect a response unless you are part of the >> University of Washington community. >> >> If you have a question, please check the Pine Frequently Asked >> Question (FAQ) list, which you can obtain by sending a message to the >> Pine FAQ robot, at: pine-faq@cac.washington.edu >> >> You may also post an inquiry to the world-wide "comp.mail.pine" Usenet >> news group, or send a message to: pine-info@cac.washington.edu >> which will do the same thing. >> >> Finally, if you have World Wide Web access, the URL for the Pine >> Information Center is: >> >> http://www.washington.edu/pine >> >> Thanks for your interest in Pine! >> >> > I don't know why I have received information about the pine-robot. > I certainly haven't requested any. It seems like someone else is joking > me.Anyway,I have received your information and you made me curious about > your organisation. I don't know very much about email and it's > specialisations, because I have never used such a thing before two months > ago.If you could send me some simple information about email in ge- > neral, I would be very grateful.I'm looking forward to your reply. > > Thanks from a little Dutch girl. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 06:30:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29419; Fri, 17 Nov 95 06:30:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26559; Fri, 17 Nov 95 06:16:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26553; Fri, 17 Nov 95 06:16:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGRYD-00038HC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 06:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine Questions. Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:48:32 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Goldarg wrote: > Ok I have some Questions about Pine. > Is there a Kill file that i can use when reading news with pine? Pine as such will not do it. > Is there a way to make incoming mail from certian people go to a > differant folder in pine? I am on a couple mailing list and would like > the mailing list's to have their own incoming folder. Again, Pine as such will not do it. You have to preprocess the mail before Pine gets it. On Unix and its derivatives, Procmail and Filter are two widely used programs for preprocessing mail this way. > Is there a way to uuencode stuff and uudecode stuff with pine? Uuencode? No, unless you uuencode it first out of Pine and then read it into a message with Ctrl-R. Uudecode? Yes, under Unix, if you enable Unix piping and pipe a message through uudecode to a separate file in the current directory (and provided your uudecoder can handle extraneous lines at the top). > If these features are not in pine will they be added? That is up to the Pine Development Team. I don't know, but a lot of people are waiting to find out. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 06:31:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29462; Fri, 17 Nov 95 06:31:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26314; Fri, 17 Nov 95 06:16:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26308; Fri, 17 Nov 95 06:16:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGRXw-00038DC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 06:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Forwarding Mail Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:43:30 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Jose Enrique Diaz Jolly (LCI) wrote: : On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Bryan J. Vekovius wrote: : : > Does anyone here know how to forward all mail to another mail server? : : Yes, on the computer you want incoming mail redirected to another just : create a .forward file which contents your login name and the redirection : address: Please be aware that this technique applies only to UNIX and its derivatives. On other systems (e.g., VMS, VM/CMS, etc.), it does not apply. Not everyone runs on the same operating system, and unfortunately, some users are not always aware of what system they are running on. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 07:37:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01136; Fri, 17 Nov 95 07:37:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27450; Fri, 17 Nov 95 07:21:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27444; Fri, 17 Nov 95 07:21:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGSXq-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 07:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Suppressing "@userdomain" in @-less To Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:24:44 -0800 Message-Id: References: <48fsp6$o32@Jester.CC.MsState.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48fsp6$o32@Jester.CC.MsState.Edu> On 16 Nov 1995, Frank Peters wrote: > > An email address without an "@domain" is in violation of > > RFC-821, RFC-822, and other email specifications. Pine > > complies with these specifications. > But it is the responsibility of the MTA (sendmail or the like) to > enforce this, not the MUA. Pine is also an SMTP client, and as such is an MTA. > At the very least you should include the option of leaving this up to > the MTA. It has been shown, many times over the years, that this does not work. This idea is not new. It was popular about 15 years ago. It created many ongoing problems. Unqualified addresses that are generated by other mailers cause more bug reports due to these problems -- which are out of our control -- that we get about the generation of fully qualifed addresses. An MTA which is smart enough to rewrite addresses to suit local site policy can also be made smart enough to accept fully-qualified addresses as input. Ask yourself if you would rather fix your smart MTA to be a little bit smarter so it can rewrite fully-qualified addresses, or if you would prefer to get more messages from outside with unqualified addresses that your smart MTA rewrites with its best (but often wrong) guess of the right thing. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 09:05:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05387; Fri, 17 Nov 95 09:05:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29982; Fri, 17 Nov 95 08:56:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29976; Fri, 17 Nov 95 08:56:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGU1U-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 08:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Suppressing "@userdomain" in @-less To Date: 17 Nov 1995 08:22:47 GMT Message-Id: <48hgon$f5s@hustle.rahul.net> References: <48fsp6$o32@Jester.CC.MsState.Edu> In Mark Crispin writes: >Ask yourself if you would rather fix your smart MTA to be a little bit >smarter...or if you would >prefer to get more messages from outside with unqualified addresses... An interesting dichotomy, as presented above. I am intrigued by the idea that making one's local MTA smarter suddenly causes everybody else to stop generating bad addresses. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 09:40:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07293; Fri, 17 Nov 95 09:40:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01309; Fri, 17 Nov 95 09:31:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01297; Fri, 17 Nov 95 09:31:18 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01483; Fri, 17 Nov 95 09:29:49 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 09:29:49 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Alex Kogan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Updating global addressbook in PINE 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Look in the technical notes at the section on address books. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Alex Kogan wrote: > If PINE is open while the global addressbook is updated (and auxiliarly index > updated with dont-sort option), I must close and re-open PINE, in order to use the Global Addressbook. > > Is this problem familiar to anyone ? > Does anyone has any advice how to solve this problem ? > > Thanks you for cooperation. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Alex Kogan Phone: 972-8-273236 > Email: Alex.Kogan@elex.co.il Fax : 972-8-273264 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 09:41:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07338; Fri, 17 Nov 95 09:41:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01205; Fri, 17 Nov 95 09:28:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01199; Fri, 17 Nov 95 09:28:40 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01440; Fri, 17 Nov 95 09:28:35 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 09:28:35 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Joel Sprechman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple address books? In-Reply-To: <48fjgi$4gb@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Hello- > > I've made the following change to my .pinerc: > > global-address-book=.addressbook .add2 The syntax for specifying an addressbook is optional_nickname filename so this line is giving the file .add2 the nickname of .addressbook. That's why it looks funny in the display. If you want an address book to be read-write instead of read-only, just make it a personal address book instead. So you probably want address-book=.addressbook, .add2 Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 10:20:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09469; Fri, 17 Nov 95 10:20:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02211; Fri, 17 Nov 95 10:11:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02205; Fri, 17 Nov 95 10:11:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGVCH-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 10:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: erasing part of a received-message Date: 17 Nov 95 11:45:21 GMT Message-Id: References: ccasuzi@tx.technion.ac.il (Susan Feingold) writes: [erasing part of a received-message] >Is there any way to do this? Yes. Next! ;-) I wonder what kind of removal is asked here. Of course you can edit your mailbox with an editor. And you can edit the mail when you send it along by editing it. You can also use a filter like procmail to change parts of the header and body. There are lots of thing you can do. But - what do you want? Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 11:18:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12727; Fri, 17 Nov 95 11:18:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04199; Fri, 17 Nov 95 11:06:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04193; Fri, 17 Nov 95 11:06:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGW70-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 11:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple address books? Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 11:44:39 +0100 Message-Id: References: <48fjgi$4gb@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48fjgi$4gb@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> On 16 Nov 1995, Joel Sprechman wrote: > I've made the following change to my .pinerc: > Global AddressBook <.addressbook> > (ReadOnly) > the first one(personal) is the .addressbook file > and the second one(global) is the .add2 file even though it shows it wrong. > I can expand both lists to see them correctly. > However why is the second one ReadOnly when the protections on the file > are ok? I think that the global addressbook MUST be ReadOnly, because it"s a system side addressbook. Bye. Ralf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 11:51:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14329; Fri, 17 Nov 95 11:51:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04782; Fri, 17 Nov 95 11:36:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04776; Fri, 17 Nov 95 11:36:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGWWA-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 11:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: saving to folders in folder collections Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 16:11:47 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Please respond also by e-mail, I cannot read the newsgroup quite regularly. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- After being fed-up of scrolling thru several pages of folders (I have the habit to sort mail by project or subject, and I have some 180 different folders), I decided to re-arrange my folders in collections. Thus I put in my .pinerc something like : folder-collections=MAIL mail/[], SAX /mail/.Sax/[], etc.etc. In my ~/mail directory I created a number of "hidden" subdirectories like .Sax, .Xmm etc. (named by project), moved there all subproject folders related to the given project, and associated to that a folder collection as indicated above. (I'd like to keep such directories as subdirectories of my main mail directory for obvious reasons. I used "hidden" dot-names for the subdirectories so that Pine does not show them when listing the folders in the default MAIL collection.) I found navigation thru folders reasonable (with ^N ^P), although I won't mind if folder list (L command, with feature-list including "no-expanded-view-of-folders") would be more compact (list only collection names, not several lines, and expand-unexpand toggle key). What I am puzzled with is SAVING outgoing mail to folders. I like to save both incoming and outgoing mail by project/subproject. Thus I go to Fcc and I'd like to type the collection and folder name, but this is not possible (there is no syntax for it). Apparently it is also not possible to type the folder name, and assume it goes in the "current" collection. The only way is from Fcc to type ^T, select a collection, and then select a folder. But even then ... ... pine will present the folder name as e.g. mail/.Sax/subproject and when sending the mail will ask permission to create non existing folder with such name in the MAIL collection (although such folder as a file exists in ~/mail/.Sax/subproject !!!) So far the only way out I've found is to edit .pinerc and type there the fully qualified path folder-collections=MAIL mail/[], SAX /poseidon/lucio/mail/.Sax/[], etc.etc. this way when I fill Fcc: via control-T, it constructs a full path, and the mail is then saved there. Nevertheless the ^T way is a bit clumsy (the other way, saving to a temporary folder in the MAIL collection, and then moving from there to destination is worse). Is there anything wrong with what I am doing ? Is this a feature going to be fixed in 3.92, or perhaps already fixed in 3.91 ? (we are still using 3.89, me under Ultrix). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 15:57:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27457; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:57:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13040; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:52:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13031; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:52:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGaXc-00038HC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Q: Can Pine ignore senders? Date: 17 Nov 1995 21:01:33 GMT Message-Id: <48it7d$ig@fu-berlin.de> References: <48eu0g$2nk@news.cc.ucf.edu> emr61902@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Erik M Rowan) writes: >I receive unwelcomed mail all of the Erik's at UCF who want to start an >Erik club. Can Pine automatically ignore these messages, I have a list >of the email address I would like to ignore. Usual answer: PINE no. Use a filter. Read the Filter FAQ! http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html Written by Nancy McGough, http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ . Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 15:57:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27506; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:57:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12575; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:52:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12569; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:52:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGaXc-00038DC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Pine and PGP Date: 17 Nov 1995 20:39:25 GMT Message-Id: <48irtt$t7p@fu-berlin.de> References: Jeffrey Goldberg writes: >> ... pointers/suggestions/advice on seamlessly integrating PGP and PINE? >Someone should put together a FAQ about this. Ok, maybe I'll do it. Hey, go for it! You know what they say "if you want something done, do it yourself!" Either add a section to the FAQ or publish your own (recommended). Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 16:17:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28629; Fri, 17 Nov 95 16:17:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13274; Fri, 17 Nov 95 16:12:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13268; Fri, 17 Nov 95 16:12:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGaqA-00038DC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 16:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Sendmail and Pine Date: 17 Nov 95 21:18:35 GMT Message-Id: References: <48epqf$4rj@stealth.fer.uni-lj.si> michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de writes: >Iztok.Umek@snet.fer.uni-lj.si wrote: [snip] >Where is si? I know of se for sweden, but si? Just curios, never mind:-) Slovenia. See ISO3166 for the whole list. Btw, the three letter code "com" stands for the "Comores". :-) I have the third edition of the iso3166 as of 940210 where the latest addition was the "Kingdom of Cambodia"(kh) on 940126. And before someone asks - "de" is neither "Denmark" nor "Delaware". Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 16:32:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29187; Fri, 17 Nov 95 16:32:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14194; Fri, 17 Nov 95 16:27:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14188; Fri, 17 Nov 95 16:27:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGb5K-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 16:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Suppressing "@userdomain" in @-less To Date: 17 Nov 1995 08:18:05 GMT Message-Id: <48hgft$ev9@hustle.rahul.net> References: In Mark Crispin writes: > An email address without an "@domain" is in violation of > RFC-821, RFC-822, and other email specifications. Pine > complies with these specifications. RFC-822 is clearly intended to apply to messages that go across a network. It does not apply to the message that pine feeds to an MTA on the current host. There is no requirement that pine be RFC-821-conforming. Since all known MTAs will accept mail via SMTP for delivery to a local mailbox without requiring domain format, we conclude that: Pine behaves the way it does because that's how its authors want it to behave. This has nothing to do with RFCs. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 18:58:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04518; Fri, 17 Nov 95 18:58:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16853; Fri, 17 Nov 95 18:53:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16847; Fri, 17 Nov 95 18:53:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGdNp-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 18:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gs01mew@panther.Gsu.EDU (Eric Wardowski) Subject: Pine mail -> QWK; use what? Date: 15 Nov 1995 04:42:07 GMT Message-Id: <48br2v$3ma@sphinx.Gsu.EDU> I have a QWK ordered bbs for my internet access and am transferring from a Unix environment. Considering the age of Unix's and Pine's mail formatting and the thick spread of QWK packets around BBS's, I assume that there are converters. What do you suggest? (By the way, please respond to the below e-mail address as I am being booted from GSU for a month - politics & misunderstandings do wonders for the nerves!) -- Eric Wardowski eric.ward@swsbbs.com (and other hot spots!) "You live and learn. Or you don't live long!" -- Lazarus Long From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 19:12:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04815; Fri, 17 Nov 95 19:12:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17558; Fri, 17 Nov 95 19:08:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17552; Fri, 17 Nov 95 19:08:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGdaS-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 19:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ake.jonsson@mailbox.swipnet.se (Ake Jonsson) Subject: Help... Pine use rsh on remote host when using IMAP?? Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 13:31:13 GMT Message-Id: <48i3og$b1b@mn5.swip.net> Hi all. I have a amall problem that my netprovider cannot answer.. I am using Pine 3.91 wich was in the Linux 2.3 distribution that I've installed. Now. I have set a remote INBOX like this: {my.mail.host.address}INBOX and that seems to work fine with the connection to the host. But as soon as I open Pine and connects to the remote INBOX, there is a process starting, probably started by Pine: rsh my.mail.host.address exec /etc/rimapd That is that it tries to start a imap deamon on the host(not sure if I got the path right there)??? Then the system stops until I, as root, kill the rsc process. When I killed the process and return to PineI see a line that says I must write my account-name for the mail host and the password. Now.. The questions: 1: Why is Pine trying to start a remote imap deamon? Can I prevent that and how do I fix that problem? 2: Is there any way to tell Pine my account name and password for the host so Pine will put that in automagically when I connect to the mailhost. Please, help me.. Any suggestions are welcome. PS. Please respond via email, because I have had some problems with news to. Thanks in advance. Ake Jonsson. -------- ake.jonsson@mailbox.swipnet.se From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 19:51:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05596; Fri, 17 Nov 95 19:51:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17696; Fri, 17 Nov 95 19:48:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17690; Fri, 17 Nov 95 19:48:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGeFo-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 19:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stuik@fys.ruu.nl (Remko Stuik) Subject: can pine run/be ported to IBM-RT aix2.2.1 ? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 09:12:47 GMT Hello, I wondered if anyone has managed to port pine to aix 2.2.1 on an ibm-rt... if anybody has patches, please notify me... the pico editor alone would allready be a great help :-) ! Thanks Remko From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 20:00:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05868; Fri, 17 Nov 95 20:00:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18282; Fri, 17 Nov 95 19:58:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18276; Fri, 17 Nov 95 19:58:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGeNd-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 19:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stella@pluto.njcc.com (Ricky Stella) Subject: Any info in Mac version of Pine ? Date: 17 Nov 1995 17:20:39 GMT Message-Id: <48ig97$uel@earth.njcc.com> Are there any plans for this ? We currently are looking for an e-mail reader client that supports IMAP and has unix, vms, mac and windows versions. The closest thing is Pine so far, except for the mac version. Any info on other e-mail clients is strongly appreciated. DISCLAIMER: These are only my own opinions and views... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- stella@pluto.njcc.com Ricardo Stella http://pluto.njcc.com/~stella Up the Irons... _suAve_ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 20:17:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06226; Fri, 17 Nov 95 20:17:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18131; Fri, 17 Nov 95 20:13:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18125; Fri, 17 Nov 95 20:13:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGec5-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 20:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rem3614@tam2000.tamu.edu (Ray McKinney) Subject: mkpgp problem Date: 17 Nov 1995 15:16:57 GMT Message-Id: <48i919$l53@news.tamu.edu> I have installed mkpgp and everything with the installation and the config seems to be fine. The problem I have is that whenever pine tries to invove the alternate editor, I get the message 'Read xx lines' where xx is the number of lines in the mail (headers and .signature), then it goes back into the 'normal' mode with the cursor sitting in the Subject header. Everytime I try to go down into the main body, this happens. Any ideas what could be happening? Anyone with a similar problem? -- -Ray McKinney Finger rem3614@vms1.tamu.edu for PGP public key. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 21:03:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07173; Fri, 17 Nov 95 21:03:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18845; Fri, 17 Nov 95 20:59:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18839; Fri, 17 Nov 95 20:59:57 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07106; Fri, 17 Nov 95 20:59:51 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 20:59:51 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Ricky Stella Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Any info in Mac version of Pine ? In-Reply-To: <48ig97$uel@earth.njcc.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are investigating feasibility, but no promises quite yet. -teg On 17 Nov 1995, Ricky Stella wrote: > > Are there any plans for this ? We currently are looking for an e-mail > reader client that supports IMAP and has unix, vms, mac and windows versions. > > The closest thing is Pine so far, except for the mac version. > > Any info on other e-mail clients is strongly appreciated. > > DISCLAIMER: These are only my own opinions and views... > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > stella@pluto.njcc.com Ricardo Stella > http://pluto.njcc.com/~stella Up the Irons... > _suAve_ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 22:01:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08369; Fri, 17 Nov 95 22:01:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20152; Fri, 17 Nov 95 21:58:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20146; Fri, 17 Nov 95 21:58:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGgEH-00038CC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 21:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Terry Gray Subject: Re: Reducing screen info Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 14:58:47 -0800 Message-Id: References: <30aa414d3c84002@mail01.uwec.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Alas, we don't have the feature list ready yet. (We have to decode and digest a year's worth of cryptic one-line notes to ourselves :) -teg On Fri, 17 Nov 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: > Hi! > > In comp.mail.pine you write: > >For version 3.92 (still no date, but getting ever closer!) several > >features have been added to assist the visually impaired, including the > >ability to turn off the key menu. > > Hm, is this list available somewhere? > Might save me some work on the "ELM vs PINE" comparison. > > Sven > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 17 23:52:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10243; Fri, 17 Nov 95 23:52:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21282; Fri, 17 Nov 95 23:48:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21276; Fri, 17 Nov 95 23:48:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGhwm-00038HC; Fri, 17 Nov 95 23:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wierdlm@zebra.msci.memst.edu (Mate Wierdl (faculty)) Subject: pine hangs on Solaris2.4 Message-Id: Date: 17 Nov 1995 23:59:09 GMT We have sparc-sun-solaris2.4 with pine3.91. We tried both the precompiled binaries and a locally compiled excecutable; the result is the same: After composing a message I type ^X, and pine hangs forever with the message Writing Fcc... But pine hangs also when I postpone or save a message --- or any operation we tried. We can have a limited use of pine though by setting the suitable variables to "" but then, of course, we cannot save or postpone a message. Any help is appreciated! -- Mate Wierdl Department of Mathematical Sciences University of Memphis, Memphis, TN 38152 USA O: (901) 678-3140 H: (901) 323-6152 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 18 04:22:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14695; Sat, 18 Nov 95 04:22:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25325; Sat, 18 Nov 95 04:14:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25319; Sat, 18 Nov 95 04:14:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGm6K-00038CC; Sat, 18 Nov 95 04:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Spencer Phillips Subject: Offline mail/news reader for Pine? Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:55:29 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there such a thing as an offline mail and news reader for Pine? If so, where can I find it? If there are more than one, which is best? Thanks, Spencer Phillips From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 18 05:23:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15416; Sat, 18 Nov 95 05:23:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25651; Sat, 18 Nov 95 05:19:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25645; Sat, 18 Nov 95 05:19:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGn8b-00038CC; Sat, 18 Nov 95 05:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Adam Mackowicak Subject: Commands/help please! Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 23:43:02 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I'm new to Internet and I have some problems recognize commands of pine system. Can anybody help me, please and answer the following questions? A) What is the purpose of the "chmod" command? B) What command is able to find spelling errors in a file? C) What command compares two sorted files? Thank you in advance! Adam. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 18 08:12:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17942; Sat, 18 Nov 95 08:12:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28166; Sat, 18 Nov 95 08:05:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28160; Sat, 18 Nov 95 08:04:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGpks-00038CC; Sat, 18 Nov 95 08:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: signature at bottom, but it isn't Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:48:43 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I selected the 'signature at bottom' configuration, but when I reply (and the original message is automatically inserted) my signature is at the top. Am I doing something wrong or is this a known bug (pine 3.91)? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 18 08:15:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18010; Sat, 18 Nov 95 08:15:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27828; Sat, 18 Nov 95 08:10:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27822; Sat, 18 Nov 95 08:09:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGplT-00038CC; Sat, 18 Nov 95 08:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gostin@blue.crayola.cse.psu.edu (Jeffrey S Gostin) Subject: Pine beeps too much Date: 18 Nov 1995 05:25:30 GMT Message-Id: <48jqoa$ip3@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu> Hi.. a quick question for all of you. As many would notice, everytime you hit a wrong key, or you get new mail, PINE beeps at you. Normally, I wouldn't care, except, I usually read/send mail late at night, and my roomate's a light sleeper . What I want is a way to tell PINE to "shut up", so it doesn't beep. My TERMCAP is set for ":vb=:", thus shutting up EMACS, but I'd very much like to do so to PINE also. Any help is appreciated. If there's no way to do this, perhaps someone could suggest a contact address where I could mail the author(s) to both make the suggestion and inquire for a solution. Relevant information: Ultrix 4.4 PINE 3.90 TCSH 6.00.02 VT102 Thanks, in advance. :-) --Jeff -- ======== ======== "Information Superhighway" does for Internet == == what C.H.I.P.'s did for Cops. == == -= Destroy Ignorance -- Seek Higher Understanding ===== ======== Ask me for my PGP key. Privacy is your friend. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 18 10:15:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20795; Sat, 18 Nov 95 10:15:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00158; Sat, 18 Nov 95 10:10:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00152; Sat, 18 Nov 95 10:10:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGreu-00038DC; Sat, 18 Nov 95 10:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ryszard Tanas Subject: spellchecker Date: 18 Nov 1995 11:42:50 GMT Message-Id: <48kgrq$s31@math.amu.edu.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -Hi everybody! I have a problem with the spellchecking when editting a message with pico. I use pine 3.91 under linux with ispell, and when I go to the spellchecker the ispell usage message appears, but it does not perform the checking. Can someone tell me if it is possible to make it work? Thanks, R. Tanas *------------------------------------------------------------* | Ryszard Tanas | | | | Nonlinear Optics Division, Institute of Physics | | Adam Mickiewicz University | | Umultowska 85, 61-614 Poznan, Poland | | | | E-mail: tanas@phys.amu.edu.pl tanas@zon1.physd.amu.edu.pl | | Fax: +48 61 217991 Phone: +48 61 217011 ext. 232 | *------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 18 11:09:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21765; Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:09:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00447; Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:05:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AB00441; Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:05:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGsVL-00038CC; Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Iztok.Umek@snet.fer.uni-lj.si Subject: Re: Sendmail and Pine Date: 18 Nov 1995 15:17:59 +0100 Message-Id: <48kpun$sn6@stealth.fer.uni-lj.si> References: <48epqf$4rj@stealth.fer.uni-lj.si> In article , wrote: >PS: Where is si? I know of se for sweden, but si? (Just curios, never mind:-) ) Slovenia. South of Austria, north of Croatia, east of Italy and west of Hungary. And next to Adriatic sea as well. Regards, Iztok From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 18 13:43:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24601; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:43:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02757; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:40:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02751; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:40:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGuz5-00038DC; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: Sendmail and Pine Date: 18 Nov 1995 12:45:06 -0500 Message-Id: References: <48epqf$4rj@stealth.fer.uni-lj.si> There are two possiblities: 1) You can have pine change the FROM line as a customized header IF that functionality is compiled into pine. The file you need to change is: pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-xxx.h Just change the flag ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM and recompile. 2) THE SENDMAIL SOLUTION: Set up sendmail's USERDB and verify that it works when you use sendmail directly or with some other MUA such as "elm". Then, in your /etc/sendmail.cf file, add the following line before the rulesets. (I put mine right after the line saying "Kdequote dequote" and before the "Special Macros" section"): # Define our userdb file for pine rewrites Kuserdb btree -o /etc/userdb.db Then, add the following ruleset #1. (I put mine right after Ruleset 0): ################################################## ### Ruleset 1, rewrite sender header & envelope ## ################################################## #Thanks to Bjart Kvarme S1 R$- < @ $=w . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 ?? $1 username@localhost ? R$+ ?? $+ $: $1 ?? $(userdb $2 : mailname $: @ $) R$+ ?? @ $@ $1 Not found R$+ ?? $+ $>3 $2 Found, rewrite #NOTE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Use Tab Characters Use Tab Characters in these regions # to make three columns (the line with "mailname" only has 2 columns). This is how mine is set up and it works great without having to alter pine's code. (Although, I did find it it helpful to add the following to either the system wide pine.conf, pine.conf.fixed, or your personal .pinerc: user-domain=localhost since I still had some troubles without that line. Try it both with and without this pine setting. NOTE: I literally used 'localhost', I did not use my local hostname.) I hope this helps. Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 18 13:44:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24650; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:44:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03180; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:40:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03174; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:40:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGuxq-00038CC; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: Suppressing "@userdomain" in @-less To Date: 18 Nov 1995 12:45:03 -0500 Message-Id: References: On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > [snip] > Ask yourself if you would rather fix your smart MTA to be a little bit > smarter so it can rewrite fully-qualified addresses, or if you would > prefer to get more messages from outside with unqualified addresses that > your smart MTA rewrites with its best (but often wrong) guess of the right > thing. Well, I guess my response to this would be either a compile-time option, or a configuration option to suppress "@userdomain". If the default is to include "@userdomain", then theoretically, only those administrators who know that their MTA (such as sendmail) will take care of adding "@userdomain" would configure pine to omit it. Although it would be nice if all MTAs would handle this situation, the facts are that most don't (based on my limited experience). The other unfortunate reality, is that getting the makers of an MTA to make a change to handle a quirk about one MUA (ie. pine) is not always the easiest thing to do. But despite this "drawback" of pine, I still think it's the best MUA out there. (And I do know how to get sendmail's USERDB to work with pine if anyone is interested.) Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 18 14:10:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25285; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:10:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03633; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:05:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03625; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:05:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGvKt-00038CC; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmiller@WOLFENET.COM (Rich Miller) Subject: Needed: Wyse50 support for mail reader Date: 18 Nov 1995 18:21:52 GMT Message-Id: <48l880$3ga@ratty.wolfe.net> References: <48gck8$kvv@ecom3.ecn.bgu.edu> >On 16 Nov 1995, Daniel Crowson wrote: > >> After spending a couple days trying to "fix" pine and pico to >> work with Wyse60's under SCO Unix, I've given up. I really need to find >> some character based mail reader that works in Wyse60 emulation. It need >> to be easy enough for salesmen. :) I'm open to just about anything >> now other than /bin/mail. I've got a similar, slightly harder problem: my client has a lot of Wyse 50's attached to an HP machine running HP-UX 10.0. Is there ANY way to get reasonable behavior out of pine and pico in this environment, or any good alternative mail reader? -- Rich Miller (rmiller@wolfenet.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 18 17:03:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28435; Sat, 18 Nov 95 17:03:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05612; Sat, 18 Nov 95 16:56:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05606; Sat, 18 Nov 95 16:56:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGy0X-00038DC; Sat, 18 Nov 95 16:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Suppressing "@userdomain" in @-less To Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:47:09 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 18 Nov 1995, Jerry Lynch wrote: > Well, I guess my response to this would be either a compile-time option, > or a configuration option to suppress "@userdomain". If the default is > to include "@userdomain", then theoretically, only those administrators who > know that their MTA (such as sendmail) will take care of adding > "@userdomain" would configure pine to omit it. It's rather more complicated than that. Besides the user interface question (how is J. Random User supposed to know the "right" setting?) there would be a significant amount of code that needs to be changed. The concept of "not having a host name in an email address" simply does not exist in the code. That concept would have to be created, probably by having a special host name that really isn't a host name. There are further implications of this for POP and IMAP. How is an absent host name treated for data which resides on a different machine, given that POP or IMAP servers are not necessarily in the same mailbox name cluster as the client? If you review the header-people archives from the late 1970s and early 1980s, this was a very controversial issue. But the final concensus that emerged was "death to unqualified addresses". There were just too many things that didn't work. > Although it would be nice if all MTAs would handle this situation, the > facts are that most don't (based on my limited experience). The interpretation of this is that Pine is asked to trust an MTA that is demonstrably not smart enough to be smart enough, and that furthermore a user (or site admin), most of whom would *not* understand the technical issues involved, is asked to judge whether or not this configuration would work properly. In turn, we are asked to add a feature that, when misapplied, would make Pine substantially less robust. As matters stand now, Pine works. It may not exploit a feature of a minority of MTAs, but it isn't broken either. > The other > unfortunate reality, is that getting the makers of an MTA to make a > change to handle a quirk about one MUA (ie. pine) is not always the > easiest thing to do. Yet, the designers of these MTAs are making the assumption that all MUAs are old software designed to a mid-1970s idea of how "local vs. ARPAnet mail" work. How can you say that "strict conformance to RFC 822" is a "quirk about one MUA"? My undertanding is that (at least in the case of sendmail) the MTA designers just didn't consider the possibility of an MUA doing things "right", or thought that those MUAs would not need USERDB. In other words, it's an oversight, not design. Please understand that we're not saying you shouldn't use USERDB. It's a nice feature. Given that you have sources for both the MUA and the MTA in question, you can do it yourself without cooperation from the designers of either. But from an engineering standpoint, wouldn't it make more sense to fix the MTA? It shouldn't hurt the MTA in any way; but the MUA's designers have (what they feel to be) excellent reasons to feel that it would hurt the MUA. As far as "easy to do", it's not easy to ask us to add a feature that we know will be easily misued, and will cause improper performance and generate bug reports when misused. We get too many bug reports every day as it is -- we'd like to reduce the incoming flow, thankyousir!!! > But despite this "drawback" of pine, I still think it's the best MUA out > there. (And I do know how to get sendmail's USERDB to work with pine if > anyone is interested.) Thanks for the compliments, and it may be valuable to post your technique to the net. If that technique involves "how to change sendmail so that USERDB works with Pine" as opposed to "how to change Pine to work with unmodified sendmail USERDB", we may add your description of the technique to our technical notes. We'd also ask our friends the sendmail designers to make that change standard in the next version of sendmail. From what I know about the sendmail designers, they would be sympathetic to our position and happy to cooperate if it doesn't cause them problems. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 18 17:31:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29106; Sat, 18 Nov 95 17:31:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06483; Sat, 18 Nov 95 17:26:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06477; Sat, 18 Nov 95 17:26:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tGySR-00038CC; Sat, 18 Nov 95 17:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: p014677b@pbfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Anthony S Gambino) Subject: Re: Signature Date: 18 Nov 1995 20:21:55 GMT Message-Id: <48lf93$dnt@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us> References: Karoly Negyesi (chx@turan) wrote: : How could you use _two_ signatures in Pine? One for public , one for : private... Along these lines, is there any way to set up a *directory* or number of .sigs for use within Pine, automatically seleted either upon startup or upon replying/forwarding/bouncing? Tin has this option by specifying a *directory* where random .sigs can be found in place of an actual .signature file. Can pine do this? -- Anthony S. Gambino - p014677b@pbfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us - afn34486@afn.org "Heard a lot of talk about this Jesus, a man of love, a man of strength, But what a man was 2000 years ago, means nothing at all to me today." -- Live, "Operation Spirit" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 00:23:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06387; Sun, 19 Nov 95 00:23:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11832; Sun, 19 Nov 95 00:17:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11826; Sun, 19 Nov 95 00:17:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tH4v4-00038CC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 00:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: casspa@efn.org (Paul+Penny Cass) Subject: Taking Addresses to a Distribution List Date: 12 Nov 1995 22:17:57 -0800 Message-Id: <486nul$it6@garcia.efn.org> Hi! Can someone tell me if there is a way to "Take the Address" of an incoming Pine message, and put it automatically into a Distribution List? Sometimes when writing in newsgroups, you will get a lot of people e-mailing for a synopsis or whatever -- it would be very handy if you could just take their names into a Distribution List. I've also wondered if there is a Top of File/End of File instead of having to hit ^Y/^V over and over. Penny casspa@efn.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 02:45:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08220; Sun, 19 Nov 95 02:45:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14103; Sun, 19 Nov 95 02:37:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14097; Sun, 19 Nov 95 02:37:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tH77O-00038CC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 02:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ets@clark.net (Evan Sage) Subject: Viewing messages Date: 19 Nov 1995 04:28:30 GMT Message-Id: <48mbpe$edg@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit When a message is viewed, it scrolls one screen's worth at a time. Is there any way to make the scroll continuous (for purposes of direct capture by Procomm, for example)? I was thinking in terms of a print command of some kind - the Y option with the right setup. Maybe option 3 under print setup with the correct unix command. I have no printer attached, but can the output be sent to the screen in some way? Thanks. ETS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 03:33:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08704; Sun, 19 Nov 95 03:33:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14121; Sun, 19 Nov 95 03:27:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14115; Sun, 19 Nov 95 03:27:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tH7pP-00038CC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 03:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Michael J. Weiss" Subject: Custom From: Header Date: 19 Nov 1995 08:22:55 GMT Message-Id: <48mpgv$554@cocoa.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wpuld like to configure Pine to use a From: header different than my unix account name (I wish to use my central mail alias which runs in another domain.) How can I do this? I will recompile it if I have to, but I think with many people using mail aliases and forwarding, this should be a standard feature. I know about the Reply-To option, but I would rather do this instead. Thanks so much for your help. --Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 07:50:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12410; Sun, 19 Nov 95 07:50:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18023; Sun, 19 Nov 95 07:43:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18017; Sun, 19 Nov 95 07:43:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHBrm-00038HC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 07:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khmi@sci.fi (Kalevi Hautaniemi) Subject: Locking problem, HELP !!! Date: 19 Nov 1995 14:30:13 GMT Message-Id: <48nf1l$mqa@tron.sci.fi> I was just transferring files with ftp when I got a message onto screen about new mail. I switched to an another virtual console and started pine to read my mail. I, however, did not disconnected my connection with ftp. When I started that pine session it said: Folder INBOX opened with 1 message READONLY Now I keep getting same annoying message when I try to open any folder in my mail directory. Does anyone know where lies that f***ing lock file? And what's a name for it? Or is there some other thing guilty for this? -- Kalevi J Hautaniemi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marjatankatu 12 |tel: +358-31-364-7446 |fax: +358-31-364-2476 33730 Tampere Stop compaining, use Linux ! |Internet: khmi@sci.fi FINLAND |http://www.sci.fi/~khmi/ |On air: OH3FG, KO4BC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 08:16:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12733; Sun, 19 Nov 95 08:16:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18306; Sun, 19 Nov 95 08:03:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from iu21.cliu.k12.pa.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18300; Sun, 19 Nov 95 08:03:39 -0800 Received: (from scheibc@localhost) by iu21.cliu.k12.pa.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA10893; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 11:02:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 11:02:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Charlene M. Scheib" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: System creating Lookup file /var/tmp/aXXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I need assistance with an annoying problem I have been having. I apologize early on if this has been discussed in the list but I only became aware of the pine-info group recently. I have communicated with the BSDUnix people on this problem, read the Pine FAQ, the documentation, and the Release and Technical notes. But I still have not found out how to solve the problem. I am running version 2.0.1 of BSD and am having a peculiar problem with pine. When I reply to a message, the following flashes quickly at the bottom of the screen "Lookup file /var//tmp/aXXXXXXX, doesn't exist, creating", where XXXXXXX is a number. It then allows me to continue to respond to the message. As far as I can tell the recipients are receiving the messages. I can think of nothing unusual except that at one point, after I had added only a few users (including mine), I created the file that allows the system operater to set pine configuration setting permanently for everyone (pine.conf.fixed). But I had problems when that file existed too (everytime a user logged in it asked if the user wanted to move the current months sent-mail to a folder named after the previous month. On the next log in it asked the user if he wanted to delete the previous month's sent-mail. These two messages rotated everytime a user logged in). So I erased that permanent configuration file and created the pine.conf file. Now I'm wondering if that has anything to do with the problem I'm having now. It seems that I get the message only when I reply to a message, not when I compose a new message. Also, it seems that it only happens when I respond to certain users, not everyone but I can't track whether I only get the message when responding to users whose accounts were created when mine was created or if I also get it when I respond to accounts created after the permanent configuration file was deleted and replaced with pine.conf. Or does none of this have anything to do with the problem. I understand that a lookup process occurs when an email message is created but I'm not quite sure which files are involved. Could that be the problem? The files the message says are being created are in fact created by the system in /var/tmp. However, I am not listed as the owner of the file. Other users are. Is this a serious problem? And how can I correct it? Charlene M. Scheib Carbon Lehigh IU 21 4750 Orchard Rd. Schnecksville, PA 18078 charlene@iu21.cliu.k12.pa.us - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 08:50:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13202; Sun, 19 Nov 95 08:50:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18165; Sun, 19 Nov 95 08:43:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18159; Sun, 19 Nov 95 08:43:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHCpa-00038HC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 08:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ahuva Subject: too short replies get bounced Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:43:48 +0200 References: <48kgrq$s31@math.amu.edu.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48kgrq$s31@math.amu.edu.pl> Hi! When I use eply to answer a post, and I want to include the original post, if my addition is to short, the post won't get posted. I get a message that the original post was longer than the additional text, so it can't be posted. Is there any way to change the configuration, so that even small addition will be get posted? (usefull for example if it's a string post, where consecutive answers are added to a pile of posts...) Please send an answer to the above E-mail. Thanks, Ahuva From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 09:26:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13907; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:26:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18638; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:18:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18632; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:18:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHDJb-00038IC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mathias@singapura.singnet.com.sg (Mathias Koerber) Subject: FEATUREREQ: pipe msg into pine Date: 19 Nov 1995 10:04:42 GMT Message-Id: <48mvfq$i3i@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Will there be a way to pipe a message into pine in 3.92, so that pine can be used as mailer in tin etc? I need the addressbook function etc for mailing out posts, but pine does not allow me to start in composer mode *and* automatically fill the buffer with a file... I'd like to see: cat msg | pine address or pine -F msg address to preload msg into the buffer and then start the composer. The current pine -F file address does not do what I want -- Mathias Koerber | Tel: +65 / 471 9820 | mathias@singnet.com.sg SingNet NOC | Fax: +65 / 475 3273 | Mathias_Koerber@pobox.org.sg Q'town Tel. Exch. | PGP: for public key: finger mathias@singnet.com.sg 2 Stirling Rd | or use key server: pgp.singnet.com.sg S'pore 148943 | Disclaimer: I speak only for myself * Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mit Eifer sucht, was Leiden schafft * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 09:28:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13961; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:28:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19339; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:18:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19333; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:18:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHDJ8-00038HC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: naraht@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Randy Finder) Subject: Asking for folder creation? Date: 19 Nov 95 11:35:01 -0400 Message-Id: <1995Nov19.113501.1@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> I use pine on a VAX system (3.91) and my wife uses it on a UNIX system (3.91-FP). For some reason, when my wife uses the mailer it asks her if she wants to create a folder if the folder does not exist yet. My version of pine does not do so. What option do I need to set or unset? Thanx Randy Finder -- Leadership, Friendship and Service - Alpha Phi Omega From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 09:55:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14433; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:55:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19771; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:48:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19765; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:48:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHDmO-00038DC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: spellchecker Date: 19 Nov 1995 12:24:47 -0500 Message-Id: References: <48kgrq$s31@math.amu.edu.pl> Try making /usr/bin/spell the following file instead of a link to ispell: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- #! /bin/sh # # A front-end to ispell which allows it to act like the "spell" program # By: Christopher Neufeld # case $# in 0) ispell -l | sort | uniq ;; *) cat $@ | ispell -l | sort | uniq ;; esac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This will make the command "spell" behave like the typical unix spell command. To actually use ispell with its list of suggested words, you can make ispell the alternate editor by adding the following to your .pinerc: editor=/usr/bin/ispell -x Hope that helps. Jerry On 18 Nov 1995, Ryszard Tanas wrote: > -Hi everybody! > I have a problem with the spellchecking when editting a message with pico. I > use pine 3.91 under linux with ispell, and when I go to the spellchecker the > ispell usage message appears, but it does not perform the checking. Can someone > tell me if it is possible to make it work? > Thanks, R. Tanas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 10:27:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15115; Sun, 19 Nov 95 10:27:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19470; Sun, 19 Nov 95 10:18:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19464; Sun, 19 Nov 95 10:18:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHEFB-00038DC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 10:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nase@technet.sg (Chew Jin Aun) Subject: Pine and Win95 Date: 16 Nov 1995 01:26:04 GMT Message-Id: <48e3vc$hvh@raffles.technet.sg> Is there any Pine for Windows 95? Or is there any mail reader that can download new mail from a POP server without deleting it. What I want is a mail reader that can download unread mail from a POP server, not merely download the whole chunk of mail or duplicating it if there is already one in the local PC Any information is very much appreciated. Email : chew@compex.com.sg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 13:20:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18910; Sun, 19 Nov 95 13:20:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22933; Sun, 19 Nov 95 13:13:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22927; Sun, 19 Nov 95 13:13:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHGwa-00038DC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 13:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: MIME attachment Date: 19 Nov 1995 19:25:00 GMT Message-Id: <48o0ad$adn@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Someone kindly sent me a .zip file via MIME attachmenet (it's a file of upgraded drivers for the HP ScanJet 3c and Windows95) but when I attempt to 'V'iew the attachment to save as a file, I received this message from Pine: Don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM I'm not familiar with this. Haven't had a single problem in the past regarding MIME attachments of .zip files so I'm wondering if anyone has insight regarding this. I'd surely like to get at this zip file, I need those drivers. Thanks. Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 15:40:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21659; Sun, 19 Nov 95 15:40:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24033; Sun, 19 Nov 95 15:34:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24027; Sun, 19 Nov 95 15:34:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHJE4-00038IC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 15:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stephan@wad.org (Stephan Austermuehle) Message-Id: Subject: Any development on PINE? Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 15:13:11 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I'm using PINE 3.91 for a long time now and I would like to know if there is or will be any development on PINE. The two things I wish most are speed-up of PINE (don't read the whole mailbox but only an index to the messages) and an integration of PGP. Stephan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 18:56:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25885; Sun, 19 Nov 95 18:56:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28146; Sun, 19 Nov 95 18:49:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28140; Sun, 19 Nov 95 18:49:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHMGg-00038DC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 18:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nase@technet.sg (Chew Jin Aun) Subject: Configuring PC-PINE Date: 17 Nov 1995 02:02:19 GMT Message-Id: <48gqfb$1jt@raffles.technet.sg> Hi, I've just downloaded PC-PINE for Windows but don't know how to configure it to work with the Unix mail server. I have a UnixWare 2.01 server running, SMTP is up and so is POP3 server. I've configured PC-PINE with the correct SMTP server and domain name. But everytime, I got a message that says "connection refused". What should I do? Help is much appreciated. Email : chew@compex.com.sg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 20:33:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27849; Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:33:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29495; Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:29:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29489; Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:29:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHNls-00038HC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: too short replies get bounced Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 20:29:27 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, Ahuva wrote (excerpt): > When I use eply to answer a post, and I want to include the original > post, if my addition is to short, the post won't get posted. I get > a message that the original post was longer than the additional text, so > it can't be posted. This does not seem to be a problem of Pine as such. Pine is a Mail USER Agent (MUA), but it has to hand off the outgoing mail to a Mail TRANSFER Agent (MTA), and some MTAs apply the restriction to which you are referring. Fortunately, my system's MTA does not, but sometimes when I post to a moderated newsgroup, the moderator's MTA bounces it if I do not count words and lines correctly, even if I am quoting a bit more than my reply just to provide proper context without having to resort to paraphrase. Drives me nuts! Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 20:33:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27859; Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:33:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28625; Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:29:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28619; Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:29:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHNl2-00038DC; Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Taking Addresses to a Distribution List Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 20:22:46 -0500 Message-Id: References: <486nul$it6@garcia.efn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <486nul$it6@garcia.efn.org> On 12 Nov 1995, Paul+Penny Cass wrote: > Hi! Can someone tell me if there is a way to "Take the Address" of an > incoming Pine message, and put it automatically into a Distribution List? > [...] This I'm not sure about. > I've also wondered if there is a Top of File/End of File instead of > having to hit ^Y/^V over and over. Yes! Use ^W^Y and ^W^V . Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 20:41:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28227; Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:41:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29649; Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:38:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from soochak.ncst.ernet.in by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29638; Sun, 19 Nov 95 20:37:33 -0800 Received: from iisc.ernet.in (iisc.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.64.3]) by soochak.ncst.ernet.in (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA11775 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:06:50 +0530 Received: from vigyan.UUCP by iisc.ernet.in (ERNET-IISc/SMI-4.1) id AA05479; Mon, 20 Nov 95 10:12:04+0530 Received: by vigyan.iisc.ernet.in (smail2.3) id AA01003; 20 Nov 95 10:04:04 EST (Mon) Received: from se08 by isac.ernet.in (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17381; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:40:12 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:40:12 +0000 (CUT) From: Shrishail Halyal X-Sender: shail@se08 To: Pine-Info Subject: Problem : Fully qualified address Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1073676024-2002600785-815922937=:24509" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1073676024-2002600785-815922937=:24509 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: _______________________________________________________________________________ Shrishail Halyal Email : shail@isac.ernet.in Engineer, STD/CIG, Phone : 080-5267156, 5266251-2476/2583 ISRO Satellite Centre Fax : 080-5217657 Airport Road, Resi.Ad.: H-38, 3rd Main, Khadi Layout, Bangalore - 560017 Vivekananda nagar Bangalore-85. _______________________________________________________________________________ I have a problem regarding the fully qualified address. The fully qualified address is either john@system.com OR system.com!john. According to the standards, the address is node!user or user@node, both are same. But pine is not allowing to enter the address as node!user, As soon as I enter node!user, pine appends the local domain name to it, assuming it is a local address. The same problem will come when we receive a mail from system.com!user, we will not be able to use the reply option , because of the appended local domain name. For this, any configuration setup has to be done ??? Pl. Can any one help in this matter ??? ---1073676024-2002600785-815922937=:24509 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = shail, full = home = /home/cig/shail home_dir= /home/cig/shail hostname= se08 localdom= se08 userdom= isac.ernet.in maildom= isac.ernet.in cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= inbox msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=aixterm, ttyname=/dev/pts/3, size=25x65, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Shrishail Halyal user-id : shail user-domain : isac.ernet.in inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature global-address-book : /usr/local/lib/gladbook address-book : .addressbook feature-list : no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : save-will-advance : enable-mail-check-cue saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : /usr/bin/vi use-only-domain-name : Yes printer : lp -dlcp personal-print-comma : lp -dlcp standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.11 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/cig/shail/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Shrishail Halyal feature-list : compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs : expanded-view-of-addressbooks editor : /usr/bin/vi use-only-domain-name : Yes last-time-prune-ques : 95.11 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : isac.ernet.in printer : lp -dlcp personal-print-comma : lp -dlcp standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed) ======= user-domain : isac.ernet.in global-address-book : /usr/local/lib/gladbook feature-list : no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : save-will-advance : enable-mail-check-cue ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---1073676024-2002600785-815922937=:24509-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 19 23:52:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01910; Sun, 19 Nov 95 23:52:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01456; Sun, 19 Nov 95 23:47:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from agora.rdrop.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01450; Sun, 19 Nov 95 23:47:09 -0800 Received: from racsys.rt.rain.com by agora.rdrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0tHQwP-0002L4C; Sun, 19 Nov 95 23:46 PST Received: from racsys by racsys.rt.rain.com ; 19 NOV 95 23:46:33 PDT Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 23:46:32 -0800 (PST) From: George Rachor To: Chew Jin Aun Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configuring PC-PINE In-Reply-To: <48gqfb$1jt@raffles.technet.sg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 670 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I tried using the pop server that came with unixware 2.00 with similar results. Qualcom has a unixware version that I am using. Good luck, George Rachor Beaverton, OR george@racsys.rt.rain.com On 17 Nov 1995, Chew Jin Aun wrote: > Hi, > > I've just downloaded PC-PINE for Windows but don't know how to configure it to > work with the Unix mail server. > > I have a UnixWare 2.01 server running, SMTP is up and so is POP3 server. > > I've configured PC-PINE with the correct SMTP server and domain name. > But everytime, I got a message that says "connection refused". > > What should I do? > > Help is much appreciated. > > Email : chew@compex.com.sg > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 00:36:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02612; Mon, 20 Nov 95 00:36:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02036; Mon, 20 Nov 95 00:30:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02030; Mon, 20 Nov 95 00:30:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHRXW-00038BC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 00:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: (no subject) Date: 20 Nov 1995 07:40:13 GMT Message-Id: <48pbct$rsa@misc.twics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a way to delete all messages at one time? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 01:46:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03684; Mon, 20 Nov 95 01:46:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02988; Mon, 20 Nov 95 01:36:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02982; Mon, 20 Nov 95 01:36:08 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:33:34 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA24636; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:35:15 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:35:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: sheila Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <48pbct$rsa@misc.twics.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1. Use Pine 3.91 2. Go into Setup Configuration screen and enable "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature. Read its on-line help whilst there. 3. Return to Index screen. 4. Select all messages: ; A 5. Delete the selected messages: A D In future just use steps 4 and 5. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 20 Nov 1995, sheila wrote: > Is there a way to delete all messages at one time? > > Thanks. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 03:20:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05093; Mon, 20 Nov 95 03:20:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05105; Mon, 20 Nov 95 03:05:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05099; Mon, 20 Nov 95 03:05:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHU2J-00038CC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 03:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Commands/help please! Date: 20 Nov 1995 05:13:07 GMT Message-Id: <48p2p3$5q3@guava.epix.net> References: Adam Mackowicak (amackowi@io.UWinnipeg.ca) wrote: : I'm new to Internet and I have some problems recognize commands of pine : system. Can anybody help me, please and answer the following questions? : A) What is the purpose of the "chmod" command? It changes read, write, and execute permissions on your files, but it IS NOT A PINE question, it is a UNIX question. : B) What command is able to find spelling errors in a file? In Pine's default editor (PICO) it's ^T (control+t), but I'm not sure that's your question? : C) What command compares two sorted files? Again, not a PINE question but a UNIX question, and without knowing more about your system, can't answer. Also don't know what you mean by a 'sorted file'... ? : Adam. G'Day! /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 03:21:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05127; Mon, 20 Nov 95 03:21:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04234; Mon, 20 Nov 95 03:10:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04225; Mon, 20 Nov 95 03:10:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHU57-00038BC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 03:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: HELP Date: 20 Nov 1995 04:54:51 GMT Message-Id: <48p1mr$530@guava.epix.net> References: <48env7$mjo@guava.epix.net> Chip Old (fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us) wrote: : On 16 Nov 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: : > Amy Kimmel (akimmel@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us) wrote: ... in part ... : > : what do I do from here? ... then DearOldDad wrote ... : > Uhmmmmm ... subscribe to an ISP ... Only a thought ! ... then Chip wrote ... in part ... : Not much of a thought, since we _are_ an ISP. Amy would have gotten more : useful advice a lot closer to home had she contacted our Help Desk before Yessiree Chipper I could see that, and it was a tounge-in-cheek remark attempt at a stupid joke ... Sorry if you didn't get it (nor apparently did any of the others who tried to help her as if she were directly connected). G'Day. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 04:22:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06407; Mon, 20 Nov 95 04:22:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06174; Mon, 20 Nov 95 04:11:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06168; Mon, 20 Nov 95 04:11:11 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA18612 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 13:09:05 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00101; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:10:44 +0300 (OET) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:11:27 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow To: Shrishail Halyal Cc: Pine-Info Subject: Re: Problem : Fully qualified address X-Sender: bor@itsmx1.mow.sni.de In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Shrishail Halyal wrote: > > I have a problem regarding the fully qualified address. > The fully qualified address is either john@system.com OR > system.com!john. According to the standards, > the address is node!user or user@node, both are same. > But pine is not allowing to enter the address as > node!user, As soon as I enter node!user, pine appends the > local domain name to it, assuming it is a local address. > The same problem will come when we receive a mail from > system.com!user, we will not be able to use the reply > option , because of the appended local domain name. > It seems, that Pine authors insist on user@domain being the ONLY valid form of address. So God help UUCP (and not only) users. ---------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 04:48:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06733; Mon, 20 Nov 95 04:48:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06454; Mon, 20 Nov 95 04:35:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06448; Mon, 20 Nov 95 04:35:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHVNT-00038BC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 04:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deadslug@cats.ucsc.edu (David C. 'Davy Baby' Brogden) Subject: Re: Pine and PGP Date: 20 Nov 1995 09:25:00 GMT Message-Id: <48phhc$51s@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <48irtt$t7p@fu-berlin.de> I've been wondering how to get Pine and PGP to work together happily. They don't seem to want to. Any tips will be much loved. --dave -- o o David C. "Davy Baby" Brogden "Dolphins, one of the smartest __\_\_ deadslug@cats.ucsc.edu mammals on earth! Do they wear / \ _ pants? No! But they wish they could. \____ \ Fiat Slack / \ That's how smart they are!" \ \_____________/ / --Tom Servo Slugs \ / http://www.armory.com/~deadslug/index.html Undead \________________/Due to budget constraints these aren't UCSC opinions From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 05:35:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07516; Mon, 20 Nov 95 05:35:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07085; Mon, 20 Nov 95 05:26:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07079; Mon, 20 Nov 95 05:26:47 -0800 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA36216; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 07:20:53 -0600 Received: by Cookie.secapl.com id AA210883 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 07:28:02 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 07:28:02 -0600 (CST) From: Carla Golden To: "Robert A. Pickering Jr." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Stop copying to sent-mail In-Reply-To: <47ajti$4b1e@rose.muohio.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII That did not work for me On 2 Nov 1995, Robert A. Pickering Jr. wrote: > Our you can just set the fcc variable in the .pinerc file accordingly: > > # default-fcc specifies where a copy of outgoing mail is saved. If this is > # To suppress saving of outgoing mail, set: default-fcc="" > default-fcc="" > > And it won't do it anymore. > > -Rob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 08:02:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10872; Mon, 20 Nov 95 08:02:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08228; Mon, 20 Nov 95 07:41:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08222; Mon, 20 Nov 95 07:41:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHYL6-00038BC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 07:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laws@cambridge.scr.slb.com (Robert Laws) Subject: Getting into vi from Pine Date: 20 Nov 1995 08:47:23 GMT Message-Id: <48pfar$pbj@snlsu1> References: I use Pine from a dial-in e-mail provider. It is running on a UNIX machine. I'd like to edit my .signature file but I cannot find any way to do this; when I exit from Pine my dial-in session is terminated. Can I start vi, for instance, from within Pine? Thanks Robert --- ____________________________________________________________________ My personal opinions only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 10:09:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17656; Mon, 20 Nov 95 10:09:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13112; Mon, 20 Nov 95 09:56:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13106; Mon, 20 Nov 95 09:56:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHaOK-00038BC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 09:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@ask.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: PCPine and name-lookup Date: 20 Nov 1995 17:01:24 GMT Message-Id: <48qc94$hg9@ratatosk.uio.no> We are using PC-Pine 3.91 with PC-NFS 5.1X (which uses DNS lookup) Each users configuration file (pinerc) is located at the network disk which is mounted on the PC when the user logs in. (told to Pine by set pinerc=Drive:\pine\pinerc) It seems that one out of four installations does not work. It looks like Pine is having a hard time looking up the server. While starting it will say something like "getting information on mail address" etc ending in: host not found. Which version of PC-NFS (5.1 a/b) that is running does not seem to matter. I moved the local Pine-files from a working installation to a problem-child (as we have had som CRC-trouble on network installations). It did not help. I had my home directory with my pinerc mounted on the %$&"#&#$ PC, it did not work (even though it works beautifully on my PC). I made sure all the other services using DNS worked, that all the servers were valid, up, and running named. I _did_ check that imapd was running well on the local host. What I hate about this is that I cannot seem to find the similarities between the installations not working. Does anyone have any ideas out there? Margrete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 10:17:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18074; Mon, 20 Nov 95 10:17:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12653; Mon, 20 Nov 95 10:06:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12647; Mon, 20 Nov 95 10:06:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHaZu-00038BC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 10:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikea@shadow.net (Shadow Information Services Network Administrator) Subject: Control O does not work on Pico? Date: 20 Nov 1995 17:28:52 GMT Message-Id: <48qdsk$rl9@bud.shadow.net> How come Control O does not work with Pico? Everything else works fine. Thanks in advance, Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 10:39:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18966; Mon, 20 Nov 95 10:39:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13435; Mon, 20 Nov 95 10:30:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from speedy.cs.pitt.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13429; Mon, 20 Nov 95 10:30:04 -0800 Received: (robohen@localhost) by speedy.cs.pitt.edu (8.6.10/8.6.5) id NAA14642; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 13:30:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 13:30:02 -0500 (EST) From: Henry Robertson To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: auto-forward mail to multiple users? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have created a list called "ic" with pine. I would like all mail coming to my account to be forwarded to the users on ic. Is there a way to do this? Henry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 11:18:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20974; Mon, 20 Nov 95 11:18:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15206; Mon, 20 Nov 95 11:06:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15200; Mon, 20 Nov 95 11:06:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHbXl-00038BC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 11:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Getting into vi from Pine Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:51:09 -0500 Message-Id: References: <48pfar$pbj@snlsu1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48pfar$pbj@snlsu1> On 20 Nov 1995, Robert Laws wrote: > I use Pine from a dial-in e-mail provider. It is running on a UNIX > machine. I'd like to edit my .signature file but I cannot find > any way to do this; when I exit from Pine my dial-in session is > terminated. > > Can I start vi, for instance, from within Pine? It may depend on how Pine is configured for your system. You might try entering Ctrl-Z from within Pine. If your Pine is configured to allow this, Pine will be suspended and put in the background, putting you at your Unix shell prompt. Then you can use vi to edit whatever you want. To resume Pine, just enter 'fg' at the shell prompt. As for using vi from _within_ Pine, you can do this for editing original messages and replies, but I'm not sure you can do it to edit an "independent" file. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 12:03:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23563; Mon, 20 Nov 95 12:03:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16878; Mon, 20 Nov 95 11:54:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16872; Mon, 20 Nov 95 11:54:23 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tHbMb-000sACC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:54 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:46 MEZ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:45:16 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Robert Laws Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting into vi from Pine In-Reply-To: <48pfar$pbj@snlsu1> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Robert, if you go from the (M)ain Menu to (S)etup and choose (C)onfig you can set an alternative editor. Oops, that was the second part of your question:-) You can always fake an editor by replying to any email you have and calling the external editor (I'm sorry, I've made pico my standard, but there is a ^something for this, look at the command-list at the bottom). Once your in, delete all text, write your .forward text and save the actual file as .forward (When leaving the editor, make sure *NOT* to send the file!) BUT: You must have a home-directory on the providers system, which is NOT common! So check this out. Ciao, Michael On 20 Nov 1995, Robert Laws wrote: > I use Pine from a dial-in e-mail provider. It is running on a UNIX > machine. I'd like to edit my .signature file but I cannot find > any way to do this; when I exit from Pine my dial-in session is > terminated. > > Can I start vi, for instance, from within Pine? > > Thanks > > Robert > > > --- > ____________________________________________________________________ > My personal opinions only. > > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE "Waiter, there's no fly in my soup!" (Kermit the frog) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 13:17:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27685; Mon, 20 Nov 95 13:17:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18338; Mon, 20 Nov 95 13:10:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.liv.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18332; Mon, 20 Nov 95 13:10:21 -0800 Received: from pop.liv.ac.uk by mail.liv.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:58:37 +0000 Received: from mail.liv.ac.uk (mail-le0.liv.ac.uk [138.253.31.6]) by pop.liv.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.6-ajt-2) with SMTP id UAA11659 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:35:25 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:35:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Alan Thew X-Sender: qq11@mail.liv.ac.uk To: Pine List Subject: pine fails to expunge (using MH drivers) (3.91) Message-Id: Organization: The University of Liverpool Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When attempting to expunge deleted items from my "inbox" folder, pine thinks there are more items to be expunged than there really are and fails to delete anything. If I try and expunge on a quit, pine will occasionally crash. This is not always consistent although always fails on the same items. I can manipulate the folder using MH primitives but these cannot cope with the volume which is high. pine _seems_ to be OK on other folders. I've searched the filestore in case pine has some "special" file where it can store information like this but have found nothing. Running a trace and using debug level 9 doesn't seem to get me any further apart from showing that some pointers (in the general sense) have been trashed. -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 14:47:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01827; Mon, 20 Nov 95 14:47:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21019; Mon, 20 Nov 95 14:41:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21013; Mon, 20 Nov 95 14:41:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHeuI-00038BC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 14:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Problem : Fully qualified address In-Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de's message of 20 Nov 1995 04: 21:40 -0800 Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:27:04 GMT In article borsenkow.msk@sni.de (Andrej Borsenkow) writes: On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Shrishail Halyal wrote: > I have a problem regarding the fully qualified address. > The fully qualified address is either john@system.com OR > system.com!john. According to the standards, > the address is node!user or user@node, both are same. > But pine is not allowing to enter the address as > node!user, As soon as I enter node!user, pine appends the > local domain name to it, assuming it is a local address. > The same problem will come when we receive a mail from > system.com!user, we will not be able to use the reply > option , because of the appended local domain name. It seems, that Pine authors insist on user@domain being the ONLY valid form of address. So God help UUCP (and not only) users. The problem might be more apparent than actual. I just performed a test, using alw.nih.gov!rick as the recipient address. Pine appended @helix.nih.gov as per the above, but delivery was made to alw. Evidently our sendmail configuration stripped the superfluous local hostname. Hope this helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 16:36:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06741; Mon, 20 Nov 95 16:36:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25088; Mon, 20 Nov 95 16:32:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25082; Mon, 20 Nov 95 16:32:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHgb8-00038BC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 16:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gt1355b@acmey.gatech.edu (Chris) Subject: Aliases in Pine Date: 20 Nov 1995 19:36:44 GMT Message-Id: <48qlcc$rog@catapult.gatech.edu> There's only one feature of elm that I miss in pine. In elm, you could set up an alias for a bunch of email addresses, compose a letter to that alias, and elm would resolve it into everyone on the list before mailing it. For example, I could set up an alias for one of my classes (let's call it junk) and add the email addresses of everyone in my class to that alias. Then, I could send email to junk, and elm would expand it from the aliases and mail it to everyone in the class. Is there any way to do this in pine? thanks, chris -- Chris Ricker : gt1355b@prism.gatech.edu : The Georgia Institute o' Technology "I got a threshold, Jules. I got a threshold for the abuse I'll take. And you're crossing it. I'm a race car and you got me in the red. Redline 7000, that's where you are. Just know, it's...dangerous to be drivin' a race car when it's in the red. It could blow." --Vincent Vega-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 19:13:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12898; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:13:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27483; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:07:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from king.cc.ntu.edu.tw by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27477; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:07:48 -0800 Received: from ccsun5.cc.ntu.edu.tw (b4102077@ccsun5.cc.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.8.5]) by king.cc.ntu.edu.tw (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA07156 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 11:07:16 +0800 Received: (b4102077@localhost) by ccsun5.cc.ntu.edu.tw (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00904; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 11:12:30 +0800 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 11:12:30 +0800 (CST) From: b4102077@cc.ntu.edu.tw To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 19:16:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13016; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:16:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28694; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:12:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28688; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:12:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHj6h-00038BC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Keith Reel Subject: Pine hangs when News server is unavailable Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:47:22 -0600 Message-Id: <30B0F76A.7AE5@olivet.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are using Pine 3.91 on a Sun with Solaris 2.4. We also have a Usenet news server running on Linux. Whenever our Usenet News host goes down, Pine users get hung up at the main menu as Pine is "building folder list". We know that this is because when a user sets up his/her folders to read Usenet articles, and the News server is down, Pine looks indefinitely for the news host and just hangs. Is there an option in pine.conf that will get around this? I usually end up swapping versions of Pine from 3.91 to 3.89 until the News host is back up again, but I'd rather have the problem fixed. Thanks Keith Reel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 21:36:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16320; Mon, 20 Nov 95 21:36:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29743; Mon, 20 Nov 95 21:32:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29737; Mon, 20 Nov 95 21:32:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHlHq-00038BC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 21:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: redwards@flagstaff.princeton.edu (Ryan D. Edwards) Subject: Screening incoming mail? Date: 20 Nov 1995 20:59:15 GMT Message-Id: <48qq73$g6m@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Does anybody know of an easy way to configure pine (or anything else) to screen out mail from a particular place of origin? Thanks Ryan Edwards redwards@princeton.edu -- Ryan Edwards redwards@phoenix.princeton.edu Princeton University (609) 258-8398 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 20 22:52:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17723; Mon, 20 Nov 95 22:52:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02328; Mon, 20 Nov 95 22:47:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02322; Mon, 20 Nov 95 22:47:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHmUG-00038CC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 22:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: auto-forward mail to multiple users? Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:50:01 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 20 Nov 1995, Henry Robertson wrote: > Hi, I have created a list called "ic" with pine. I would like all mail > coming to my account to be forwarded to the users on ic. Is there a way > to do this? Pine will not do this. (It wasn't designed to.) If you are on some version of Unix, you can use the forward facility (read about it with 'man forward') provided you want to forward every single piece of mail that arrives at your account tro one other addressee. Otherwise you will have to use some sort of preprocessing software such as procmail or filter. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 01:23:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20446; Tue, 21 Nov 95 01:23:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03229; Tue, 21 Nov 95 01:13:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03223; Tue, 21 Nov 95 01:13:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHohe-00038BC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 01:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Corey Henderson Subject: HELP!!! Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:31:38 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can someone tell me the name some groups to describe to that will help me read about rock concerts coming to the Omaha area? How about a sports group? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 03:01:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22032; Tue, 21 Nov 95 03:01:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05687; Tue, 21 Nov 95 02:48:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05681; Tue, 21 Nov 95 02:48:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHqCO-00038BC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 02:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: pine fails to expunge (using MH drivers) (3.91) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:14:17 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 20 Nov 1995, Alan Thew wrote: > When attempting to expunge deleted items from my "inbox" folder, pine thinks > there are more items to be expunged than there really are and fails to delete > anything. If I try and expunge on a quit, pine will occasionally crash. > This is not always consistent although always fails on the same items. What do you mean by "there are more items to be expunged than there really are"? > I can manipulate the folder using MH primitives but these cannot cope > with the volume which is high. pine _seems_ to be OK on other folders. Can you provide any other information? Do you mean that this only happens on your INBOX folder? > I've searched the filestore in case pine has some "special" file where it > can store information like this but have found nothing. There's no special file; deleted status is in memory. > Running a trace > and using debug level 9 doesn't seem to get me any further apart from > showing that some pointers (in the general sense) have been trashed. Can you elaborate on this? -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 03:21:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22413; Tue, 21 Nov 95 03:21:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04691; Tue, 21 Nov 95 03:08:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04685; Tue, 21 Nov 95 03:08:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHqV8-00038BC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 03:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Keith Reel Subject: Pine hangs when News server is unavailable Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:47:22 -0600 Message-Id: <30B0F76A.7AE5@olivet.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are using Pine 3.91 on a Sun with Solaris 2.4. We also have a Usenet news server running on Linux. Whenever our Usenet News host goes down, Pine users get hung up at the main menu as Pine is "building folder list". We know that this is because when a user sets up his/her folders to read Usenet articles, and the News server is down, Pine looks indefinitely for the news host and just hangs. Is there an option in pine.conf that will get around this? I usually end up swapping versions of Pine from 3.91 to 3.89 until the News host is back up again, but I'd rather have the problem fixed. Thanks Keith Reel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 04:27:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23869; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:27:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05857; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:18:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05851; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:18:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHrcH-00038CC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Screening incoming mail? Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:52:05 -0500 Message-Id: References: <48qq73$g6m@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48qq73$g6m@cnn.Princeton.EDU> On 20 Nov 1995, Ryan D. Edwards wrote: > Does anybody know of an easy way to configure pine (or anything else) to > screen out mail from a particular place of origin? Pine does not do this kind of prescreening. You need to use software which will screen your mail before Pine opens it. On Unix systems, procmail and filter are fairly popular. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 04:31:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23927; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:31:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07228; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:23:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07222; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:23:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHrfS-00038BC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: redwards@flagstaff.princeton.edu (Ryan D. Edwards) Subject: Screening incoming mail? Date: 20 Nov 1995 20:59:15 GMT Message-Id: <48qq73$g6m@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Does anybody know of an easy way to configure pine (or anything else) to screen out mail from a particular place of origin? Thanks Ryan Edwards redwards@princeton.edu -- Ryan Edwards redwards@phoenix.princeton.edu Princeton University (609) 258-8398 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 04:31:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23955; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:31:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07145; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:18:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07139; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:18:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHrcG-00038BC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 04:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: auto-forward mail to multiple users? Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:50:01 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 20 Nov 1995, Henry Robertson wrote: > Hi, I have created a list called "ic" with pine. I would like all mail > coming to my account to be forwarded to the users on ic. Is there a way > to do this? Pine will not do this. (It wasn't designed to.) If you are on some version of Unix, you can use the forward facility (read about it with 'man forward') provided you want to forward every single piece of mail that arrives at your account tro one other addressee. Otherwise you will have to use some sort of preprocessing software such as procmail or filter. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 08:51:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01124; Tue, 21 Nov 95 08:51:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10359; Tue, 21 Nov 95 08:39:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10353; Tue, 21 Nov 95 08:39:44 -0800 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA24184 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 10:33:41 -0600 Received: by Cookie.secapl.com id AA216634 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 10:40:56 -0600 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 10:40:56 -0600 (CST) From: Carla Golden To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Attachments Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I view the APPLEFILE? How can you print the below files? [Part 2.1, Application/APPLEFILE 588bytes] [Can not display this part. Use the "V" command to save in a file] [Part 2.2, Image/GIF 35KB] [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 09:14:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02961; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:14:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12032; Tue, 21 Nov 95 08:55:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12024; Tue, 21 Nov 95 08:55:08 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01448; Tue, 21 Nov 95 08:54:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 08:54:55 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Paul+Penny Cass Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Taking Addresses to a Distribution List In-Reply-To: <486nul$it6@garcia.efn.org> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Nov 1995, Paul+Penny Cass wrote: > Hi! Can someone tell me if there is a way to "Take the Address" of an > incoming Pine message, and put it automatically into a Distribution List? > Sometimes when writing in newsgroups, you will get a lot of people e-mailing > for a synopsis or whatever -- it would be very handy if you could just > take their names into a Distribution List. Pine is kind of dumb about this. If you are Taking only a single address it figures you want to add a simple entry to your address book instead of to a distribution list. If you are taking more than one address, it gives you the opportunity to add to a list. There is a workaround of sorts. If you Select the message with the ; command, and then do Apply Take instead of just Take, it will allow you to add to a list. Pine 3.92 will work better. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 09:48:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04838; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:48:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13558; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:33:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from speedy.cs.pitt.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13552; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:33:02 -0800 Received: (robohen@localhost) by speedy.cs.pitt.edu (8.6.10/8.6.5) id MAA05331; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:33:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:33:00 -0500 (EST) From: Henry Robertson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe robohen@cs.pitt.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 10:31:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06973; Tue, 21 Nov 95 10:31:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14882; Tue, 21 Nov 95 10:12:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from comoro.yorku.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14873; Tue, 21 Nov 95 10:12:43 -0800 Received: from helpdesk.ccs.yorku.ca (helpdesk.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.237.60]) by comoro.yorku.ca (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA23753 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 13:12:42 -0500 From: "Sam Hindawi" Message-Id: <951121131043.ZM9814@helpdesk.ccs.yorku.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 13:10:42 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0 (4.0.0 Aug 21 1995) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: (Fwd) pine (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 09:59:23 -0500 (EST) From: Alison Li To: helpdesk@YorkU.CA Subject: pine Hi there, I'm enjoying using pine but I've found that the screen menu (the little buttos at the bottom) don't appear anymore. Do you know what I might have done if anything? How can I put it back on? Regards, Samandary Hindawi Problem Analyst Tel: 416.736.5800 Computing Help Services Fax: 416.736.5461 York University E-mail: samh@yorku.ca "Deep in the hundred acre wood where Christopher Robin plays You'll find the enchanted neighborhood of Christopher's childhood days A donkey named Eeyore is his friend and Kanga and little Roo There's Rabbit and Piglet and there's Owl, but most of all Winnie the Pooh" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 10:56:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08235; Tue, 21 Nov 95 10:56:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14681; Tue, 21 Nov 95 10:48:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14673; Tue, 21 Nov 95 10:48:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tHxhe-00038HC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 10:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rose@.pa.dec.com (Stephen Rose) Subject: Tab with MH incoming message folders Date: 21 Nov 1995 07:23:29 GMT Message-Id: <48ruph$jce@usenet.pa.dec.com> I've recently installed MH and converted all my pine folders to MH folders. Also, I'm using procmail to separate my list server mail into incoming message folders. Everything seems to work just fine except for one thing. When I try to tab to the next folder with unread messages, pine thinks that there are no incoming message folders with unread messages. I see it quickly cycle through all the incoming message folders and say that there are no more incoming messages folders. When I list the folders and go to a specific folder, there are clearly unread messages. Does this really work with MH folders? I sure hope I can fix this. It's very boring manually visiting potentially empty folders. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 15:44:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21756; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:44:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25105; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:39:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25099; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:39:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tI2EL-00038DC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: duhaimj@ircm.umontreal.ca (Johanne Duhaime) Subject: quote printable status Date: 21 Nov 1995 19:39:25 GMT Message-Id: <48t9td$3e2@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bonjour Trying to see if pine would "quote printe" a text instead of using base64, I was quite mixed. First it Pine documentation we have the following; **** MIME has two ways of encoding data-Quoted-Printable and Base64 ... All attachments are encoded using Base64 encoding. ... **** But when I read the news groups articles called *BIT or Quoted-Printable in PIne ref* it looks like we can "Quote Printe" a text file. Anyone can clear that for me: can I send a attached text in "quote printable"? Johanne Duhaime IRCM Montreal duhaimj@ircm.umontreal.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 15:51:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22039; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:51:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23899; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:46:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from isis.sunderland.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23893; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:46:31 -0800 Received: from isis by isis.sunderland.ac.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21001; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 23:47:10 GMT Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 23:47:10 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alex.Gein.Ken.Lee" Subject: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII having problems with opening up the sent and saved-messages folders ! error is 'access denied' is it locked if so, how do you unlock it ? many thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 15:53:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22132; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:53:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23979; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:49:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23967; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:49:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tI2Oc-00038CC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jason M. Warren" Subject: date sorting bug? Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 08:53:50 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It seems that the date sorting in Pine's news reader doesn't quite work correctly (in 3.91). The ordering is close, but not just right. Also, postings with the same date are not ordered correctly. Is this a known bug? (I'm using the AIX version.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason M. Warren | IBM Corp. MS P966 |External: jason@kgn.ibm.com 914-433-7125 | POWERparallel Systems |Internal: jason@bozo.kgn.ibm.com (T/L 293-) | Software System Test |VM: jwarren at kgnvmc Opinions herein | 522 South Rd. | are my own. | Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 15:53:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22172; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:53:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24007; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:49:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from isis.sunderland.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24001; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:49:39 -0800 Received: from isis by isis.sunderland.ac.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21083; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 23:48:36 GMT Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 23:48:02 GMT From: a@guest.isis.sunderland.ac.uk Message-Id: <9511212348.AA21083@isis.sunderland.ac.uk> Apparently-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cannot open sent-mail and saved-messages don't know why couldn't even send you a mail message, so used annonymous. help ! mail back at ca5stu@isis.sunderland.ac.uk thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 16:06:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22849; Tue, 21 Nov 95 16:06:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25612; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:59:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25606; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:59:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tI2Wq-00038CC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mathias@singapura.singnet.com.sg (Mathias Koerber) Subject: checkalias? Date: 21 Nov 1995 13:46:55 GMT Message-Id: <48sl8f$tn0@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Has anyone written a checkalias (like the elm one) tool for pine addressbooks? I'd like to access my aliases from outside pine. If not I think a perl script will do, but why reinvent the wheel? -- Mathias Koerber | Tel: +65 / 471 9820 | mathias@singnet.com.sg SingNet NOC | Fax: +65 / 475 3273 | Mathias_Koerber@pobox.org.sg Q'town Tel. Exch. | PGP: for public key: finger mathias@singnet.com.sg 2 Stirling Rd | or use key server: pgp.singnet.com.sg S'pore 148943 | Disclaimer: I speak only for myself * Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mit Eifer sucht, was Leiden schafft * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 17:33:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27170; Tue, 21 Nov 95 17:33:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26986; Tue, 21 Nov 95 17:29:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26980; Tue, 21 Nov 95 17:29:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tI3yP-00038CC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 17:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Terry Ross Subject: Re: Aliases in Pine Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <48qlcc$rog@catapult.gatech.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 14:22:56 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <48qlcc$rog@catapult.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 20 Nov 1995, Chris wrote: > There's only one feature of elm that I miss in pine. In elm, you could set up > an alias for a bunch of email addresses, compose a letter to that alias, and > elm would resolve it into everyone on the list before mailing it. > For example, I could set up an alias for one of my classes (let's call it junk) > and add the email addresses of everyone in my class to that alias. Then, I > could send email to junk, and elm would expand it from the aliases and mail > it to everyone in the class. > > Is there any way to do this in pine? Here's how. From the main menu, hit "A" for address. Inside the address menu, hit "S" to create a list. You will be asked for a name for the list (e.g., "Junk 101"), a nickname ("junk") and then you will be asked to enter all the e-mail addresses for the list. Save the list. Now, whenever you're sending e-mail to everybody in the list, just send it to "junk" and Pine will expand "junk" and send the e-mail to everybody on the list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 21:09:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03201; Tue, 21 Nov 95 21:09:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01014; Tue, 21 Nov 95 21:05:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01008; Tue, 21 Nov 95 21:04:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tI7JF-00038CC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 21:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikea@shadow.net (Shadow Information Services Network Administrator) Subject: Control O does not work on Pico? Date: 20 Nov 1995 17:28:52 GMT Message-Id: <48qdsk$rl9@bud.shadow.net> How come Control O does not work with Pico? Everything else works fine. Thanks in advance, Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 21:29:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03556; Tue, 21 Nov 95 21:29:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02463; Tue, 21 Nov 95 21:25:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02457; Tue, 21 Nov 95 21:25:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tI7cw-00038CC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 21:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjerde@winternet.com (Kilkenny) Subject: Re: Features requested for next version Date: 22 Nov 1995 04:10:11 GMT Message-Id: <48u7r3$ghf@blackice.winternet.com> References: <47upsi$pq1@lantana.singnet.com.sg> <48cj3a$ce2@driene.student.utwente.nl> Goldarg (goldarg@azstarnet.com) wrote: : On 15 Nov 1995, Eli-Jean R. Leyssens wrote: : > 21? ) Easy (standard) way of having an alternate From: line in the : > Setup-Config Or having a Reply-to: added automatically as an option with another email address. *************************************************************************** * Ole Gjerde | Computer Science major * * | at North Dakota * * Homepage: http://www.winternet.com/~gjerde | State University * * Email: Gjerde@plains.NoDak.edu |-------------------------* * Gjerde@winternet.com | Proud user of Linux * *************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 22:51:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05749; Tue, 21 Nov 95 22:51:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02869; Tue, 21 Nov 95 22:44:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from king.cc.ntu.edu.tw by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02863; Tue, 21 Nov 95 22:44:37 -0800 Received: from ccsun3.cc.ntu.edu.tw (b4102077@ccsun3.cc.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.8.3]) by king.cc.ntu.edu.tw (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA09563 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:43:58 +0800 Received: (b4102077@localhost) by ccsun3.cc.ntu.edu.tw (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA02330; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:47:12 +0800 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:47:11 +0800 (CST) From: b4102077@cc.ntu.edu.tw To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT To whom it may concern, Please send me an introduction of pine immediately! I've tried the "faq" but no response! Thank you very much. Brian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 21 23:17:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06307; Tue, 21 Nov 95 23:17:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03279; Tue, 21 Nov 95 23:11:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03273; Tue, 21 Nov 95 23:11:08 -0800 Received: from commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 08:10:50 +0100 Received: from bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.2.31]) by commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA13542; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 08:10:46 +0100 Received: by bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (4.1/ZDV-Uni-Tuebingen-1.0) id AA09773; Wed, 22 Nov 95 08:10:44 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 08:10:43 +0100 (MET) From: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de X-Sender: zrnsm01@bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de To: Terry Ross Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Aliases in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello all is there a maximum number of recipients that I can add to a list? I created a list with about 100 recipients and some didn't receive the mails. (pine-3.91 on SunOS 4.1.2) greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Spohn | Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Terry Ross wrote: > Here's how. From the main menu, hit "A" for address. Inside the address > menu, hit "S" to create a list. You will be asked for a name for the list > (e.g., "Junk 101"), a nickname ("junk") and then you will be asked to > enter all the e-mail addresses for the list. Save the list. Now, > whenever you're sending e-mail to everybody in the list, just send it to > "junk" and Pine will expand "junk" and send the e-mail to everybody on the > list. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 02:45:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11206; Wed, 22 Nov 95 02:45:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06428; Wed, 22 Nov 95 02:40:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06422; Wed, 22 Nov 95 02:40:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tICYo-00038CC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 02:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: NAVAL DESHBANDHU Subject: a peculiarity with pine on sunos 4.1.1 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 04:23:10 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi guys, I compiled the entire pine/pico/imapd package on a sunos4.1.1 successfully. However, with pine, within the index list of any folder, I am unable to jump to any message item by simply typing the number of the message. My experience with pine on other platforms is to be able to do this. I guess it is possible that you might have run into similar observations. Am I missing a file on my sunos platform, I mean other than the pine/pico/imapd package? Your help is appreciated and if there is some pine related question I can answer, I would sure like to help you out aswell. Thanks. Naval Deshbandhu ndeshban@aic.gmu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 03:47:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12567; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:47:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08234; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:35:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08228; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:35:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIDR4-00038CC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: Aliases in Pine Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 23:03:43 +0100 Message-Id: References: <48qlcc$rog@catapult.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48qlcc$rog@catapult.gatech.edu> On 20 Nov 1995, Chris wrote: > There's only one feature of elm that I miss in pine. In elm, you could set up > an alias for a bunch of email addresses, compose a letter to that alias, and > elm would resolve it into everyone on the list before mailing it. > For example, I could set up an alias for one of my classes (let's call it junk) > and add the email addresses of everyone in my class to that alias. Then, I > could send email to junk, and elm would expand it from the aliases and mail > it to everyone in the class. > Is there any way to do this in pine? You can define a list in your addressbook(s), for more information read the help-text of the address-books... Hope it helps Bye. Ralf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 04:05:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13414; Wed, 22 Nov 95 04:05:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07460; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:50:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07454; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:50:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIDg0-00038CC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skriefal@Prairie.Lakes.com (Scott Kriefall) Subject: Using VI with Pine? Date: 19 Nov 1995 23:47:59 GMT Message-Id: <48ofnf$n6q@Harriet.Lakes.com> OK -- I've looked through the Pine FAQ lists that I could find, but still am unable to determine how to tell Pine to use VI by default. I can edit the .pinerc file so that CTRL-_ will call VI, but I want VI to always be used. I never want to see pico. Is this even possible without a recompile? Scott skriefal@prairie.lakes.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 04:05:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13456; Wed, 22 Nov 95 04:05:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08448; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:50:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08442; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:50:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIDg1-00038IC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skriefal@Prairie.Lakes.com (Scott Kriefall) Subject: Using VI with Pine? Date: 20 Nov 1995 02:51:14 GMT Message-Id: <48oqf2$nch@Harriet.Lakes.com> OK -- I've looked through the Pine FAQ lists that I could find, but still am unable to determine how to tell Pine to use VI by default. I can edit the .pinerc file so that CTRL-_ will call VI, but I want VI to always be used. I never want to see pico. Is this even possible without a recompile? Scott skriefal@prairie.lakes.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 04:08:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13664; Wed, 22 Nov 95 04:08:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07468; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:50:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07462; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:50:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIDg1-00038HC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skriefal@prairie.lakes.com (Scott Kriefall) Subject: Using VI with Pine? Date: 20 Nov 1995 00:02:37 GMT Message-Id: <48ogit$n71@Harriet.Lakes.com> OK -- I've looked through the Pine FAQ lists that I could find, but still am unable to determine how to tell Pine to use VI by default. I can edit the .pinerc file so that CTRL-_ will call VI, but I want VI to always be used. I never want to see pico. Is this even possible without a recompile? Scott skriefal@prairie.lakes.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 04:13:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13831; Wed, 22 Nov 95 04:13:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08440; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:50:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08434; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:50:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIDg0-00038DC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skriefal@Prairie.Lakes.com (Scott Kriefall) Subject: Using VI with Pine? Date: 19 Nov 1995 23:55:58 GMT Message-Id: <48og6e$n70@Harriet.Lakes.com> OK -- I've looked through the Pine FAQ lists that I could find, but still am unable to determine how to tell Pine to use VI by default. I can edit the .pinerc file so that CTRL-_ will call VI, but I want VI to always be used. I never want to see pico. Is this even possible without a recompile? Scott skriefal@prairie.lakes.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 05:54:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15596; Wed, 22 Nov 95 05:54:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08952; Wed, 22 Nov 95 05:34:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08946; Wed, 22 Nov 95 05:34:22 -0800 Received: from ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.6] (ident = root) by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0tIFJU-000C0pC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 13:34 GMT Received: by ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk (Smail-3.1.29.0 #77) id m0tIFJf-000DJKC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 13:34 GMT Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 13:34:23 +0000 (GMT) From: "K.M. Jeary" X-Sender: kmj1000@ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk Reply-To: kmj1000@cam.ac.uk To: Scott Kriefall Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using VI with Pine? In-Reply-To: <48og6e$n70@Harriet.Lakes.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why are we getting multiple copies of this message? If you have the following set in your .pinerc it will work, although I personally find that vi and pine don't work too well together:-( # Editor to use in place of Pine's internal composer, Pico editor=/usr/ucb/vi and enable-alternate-editor-implicitly and enable-alternate-editor-cmd (although this is included in the old-growth set) Use Setup/Config to set them. [This probably isn't the only/correct way, but it works.] On 19 Nov 1995, Scott Kriefall wrote: > Date: 19 Nov 1995 23:55:58 GMT > From: Scott Kriefall > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Using VI with Pine? > > OK -- I've looked through the Pine FAQ lists that I could find, but still > am unable to determine how to tell Pine to use VI by default. I can edit > the .pinerc file so that CTRL-_ will call VI, but I want VI to always be > used. I never want to see pico. Is this even possible without a > recompile? > > Scott > skriefal@prairie.lakes.com > Internet: K.M.Jeary@ucs.cam.ac.uk University Computing Service, JANET: K.M.Jeary@uk.ac.cam.ucs Computer Laboratory, Pembroke St, Phone: +01223 335039/335632 Cambridge CB2 3QG, England. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 07:20:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17547; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:20:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10218; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:02:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10212; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:02:19 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23566; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:02:40 +0500 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:02:40 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Ross X-Sender: tross@mail To: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Lists in Pine (was Aliases in Pine) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1204 On Wed, 22 Nov 1995 martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de wrote: > is there a maximum number of recipients that I can add to a list? > > I created a list with about 100 recipients and some didn't receive the > mails. (pine-3.91 on SunOS 4.1.2) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I don't know the answer, so I have more questions. If there is a limit, it's not mentioned in any of the help files. Are the same people not receiving the mail each time? Are they the first or the last names on the list? I suppose you could split your list into two lists. What is the largest size list that people have used successfully? > > On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Terry Ross wrote: > > > Here's how. From the main menu, hit "A" for address. Inside the address > > menu, hit "S" to create a list. You will be asked for a name for the list > > (e.g., "Junk 101"), a nickname ("junk") and then you will be asked to > > enter all the e-mail addresses for the list. Save the list. Now, > > whenever you're sending e-mail to everybody in the list, just send it to > > "junk" and Pine will expand "junk" and send the e-mail to everybody on the > > list. ----- Terry Ross From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 07:34:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18021; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:34:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10569; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:21:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10561; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:21:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIGuW-00038CC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Tab with MH incoming message folders Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:10:31 -0800 Message-Id: References: <48ruph$jce@usenet.pa.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48ruph$jce@usenet.pa.dec.com> On 21 Nov 1995, Stephen Rose wrote: > I've recently installed MH and converted all my pine folders to MH folders. > Also, I'm using procmail to separate my list server mail into incoming > message folders. Everything seems to work just fine except for one thing. > When I try to tab to the next folder with unread messages, pine thinks that > there are no incoming message folders with unread messages. I see it quickly > cycle through all the incoming message folders and say that there are no > more incoming messages folders. When I list the folders and go to a > specific folder, there are clearly unread messages. Does this really work > with MH folders? I sure hope I can fix this. It's very boring manually > visiting potentially empty folders. Thanks. Your observations are correct, and this will most likely be a long-term deficiency with MH folder support. The MH folder system does not provide any place to maintain some of the information which Pine likes to maintain about messages and the folder. Much of this information is inferred, but other information lasts only as long as the session lasts. Here's the technical explanation, if your're interested: Two of the interesting states of a message related to "newness" are the "recent" and "seen" state of a message. "Recent" is defined to mean "this message appeared in the folder since the previous session"; "seen" is defined to mean "the user has read this message in some way". In formats such as mbox or tenex, there are specific state flags kept in each message that contain these (and other) states. An addition semantic of "recent" messages is that the number of "recent" messages should be available quickly. "Recent" and "seen" are independent status. With MH, both "recent" and "seen" are inferred from information read from the folder directory (via readdir()) and file inodes (via stat()). There is no storage for the status in the message files themselves; nor would it be particularly beneficial to do so because it'd be too slow to read it from all the files. The upshot of this is that in MH, "recent" means "this message appeared in the folder since the start of *this* session" and "seen" is defined to mean "the user has read the message during this sesson and/or the Unix access time of the message file is greater than the Unix modification time of the file". A message can appear in the folder either because Pine itself has transferred the file from /usr/spool/mail/$USER to the user's #mhinbox, or because some other program has done so. The TAB command in Pine checks a count of "recent" messages. When just scanning folders, this count will always be zero, hence the behavior that you observed. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 07:57:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18685; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:57:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12041; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:46:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12035; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:46:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIHIv-00038CC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: pine hangs on Solaris2.4 Date: 22 Nov 95 02:31:29 GMT Message-Id: References: wierdlm@zebra.msci.memst.edu (Mate Wierdl (faculty)) writes: >We have sparc-sun-solaris2.4 with pine3.91. We tried both the >precompiled binaries and a locally compiled excecutable; the result is >the same: >After composing a message I type ^X, and pine hangs forever with the >message >Writing Fcc... >But pine hangs also when I postpone or save a message --- or any >operation we tried. We can have a limited use of pine though by >setting the suitable variables to "" but then, of course, we cannot >save or postpone a message. Something is wrong. I have installed the binary pine from UWash on several Solaris 2.3 and 2.4 machines. Sorry I can't be more helpful. >Any help is appreciated! >-- >Mate Wierdl >Department of Mathematical Sciences >University of Memphis, >Memphis, TN 38152 >USA >O: (901) 678-3140 >H: (901) 323-6152 -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 07:58:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18745; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:58:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10829; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:38:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gwdu42.gwdg.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10823; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:37:53 -0800 Received: from hamserver.mdv.gwdg.de by gwdu42.gwdg.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:34:55 +0100 Received: from dossun.gwdg.de. by hamserver.mdv.gwdg.de (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00870; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:34:51 +0100 Received: by dossun.gwdg.de. (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01781; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:28:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:26:53 +0100 (MET) From: Mathias Mueller-Heibert Reply-To: Mathias Mueller-Heibert Subject: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII What to do if error-message "unable to crate /usr/spool/mail/mmueller.lock No such file or directory" appears frequently (every 30 sec) with beep tone --- gets on my nerves thankx for quick help mathis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 07:59:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18788; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:59:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10962; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:46:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10956; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:46:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIHIv-00038DC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 07:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anirvan@crl.com (Anirvan Chatterjee) Subject: Re: Control O does not work on Pico? Date: 21 Nov 1995 18:40:49 -0800 Message-Id: <48u2jh$fd3@crl8.crl.com> References: <48qdsk$rl9@bud.shadow.net> Shadow Information Services Network Administrator (mikea@shadow.net) wrote: : How come Control O does not work with Pico? Everything else works fine. Are you using a Macintosh? Are you using NCSA Telnet? A lot depends on what software you're using to access the server you run pico from. -- ============================================================================ Anirvan Chatterjee : anirvan@crl.com : http://192.188.37.4/~anirvan/ Net/WebAdmin @ Monte Vista High School, Danville, Calif. : UC Berkeley Frosh Net+Mac+Books+SF+Asimov+Dilbert+Geek+ACLU+NPR+Liberal+Russell+Humanism+India From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 08:22:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19555; Wed, 22 Nov 95 08:22:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12599; Wed, 22 Nov 95 08:11:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12591; Wed, 22 Nov 95 08:11:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIHhw-00038DC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 08:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rem3614@tam2000.tamu.edu (Ray McKinney) Subject: Re: Control O does not work on Pico? Date: 22 Nov 1995 14:33:16 GMT Message-Id: <48vcbc$jlj@news.tamu.edu> References: <48qdsk$rl9@bud.shadow.net> <48u2jh$fd3@crl8.crl.com> If you *are* using a Macintosh, the Control-O dilemma can be avoided by pressing Command-S (same as apple-S) when in NCSA Telnet then changing one of the Keys from control-O to something else. This will only work, of course, if one of those is set to control-O, which I have found is the case in many situations. This is also a good place to start if Emacs isn't working properly (C-x C-c doesn't work because Interrupt Process is set to control-c). -- -Ray McKinney Finger rem3614@vms1.tamu.edu for PGP public key. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 10:18:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24819; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:18:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16077; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:08:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16071; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:08:45 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07854; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:00:17 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:00:17 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Cc: Pine News Group Subject: Re: Lists in Pine (was Aliases in Pine) Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 22 Nov 1995 martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de wrote: > is there a maximum number of recipients that I can add to a list? > > I created a list with about 100 recipients and some didn't receive the > mails. (pine-3.91 on SunOS 4.1.2) There is no limit in pine, but the interaction between pine and sendmail sometimes causes problems by overflowing fixed sized buffers in sendmail. If you can try setting smtp-server in the Setup/Config screen, that should get around the problem. That uses a different method to figure out who the recipients are, so doesn't run into the same buffer overflow. You can try smtp-server=localhost as a first attempt. If that doesn't work, try setting it to the actual hostname of the host you are on. If that doesn't work, try setting it to the hostname of some other smtp server you have access to. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 10:39:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25827; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:39:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16490; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:24:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Prairie.Lakes.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16484; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:24:19 -0800 Received: (from skriefal@localhost) by Prairie.Lakes.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA12164; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 12:23:10 -0600 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 12:23:09 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Kriefall To: kmj1000@cam.ac.uk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using VI with Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, K.M. Jeary wrote: > Why are we getting multiple copies of this message? The news server here has been having intermittent problems. I didn't intentionally send multiple copies... > # Editor to use in place of Pine's internal composer, Pico > editor=/usr/ucb/vi > and > enable-alternate-editor-implicitly > and > enable-alternate-editor-cmd > (although this is included in the old-growth set) I've changed the first two, and everything seems to be working fine. Scott From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 10:57:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26640; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:57:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16020; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:51:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16014; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:51:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIKGd-00038DC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Attachments Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 22:44:34 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 21 Nov 1995, Carla Golden wrote: > How can I view the APPLEFILE? How can you print the below files? > > > [Part 2.1, Application/APPLEFILE 588bytes] > [Can not display this part. Use the "V" command to save in a file] > > > [Part 2.2, Image/GIF 35KB] > [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] I had this happen to me recently, except that it was for some Global Village modem prefs which GV had e-mailed to me from their AOL account. The APPLEFILE did a very strange thing when I finally got it onto my mac. I used pine's viewer function to save it as a file on our unix box and then sent it to our apple via sz on modem. When I launched it, this little 1 kilobyte file started up *and played* the complete Dark Forces Demo, which is usually 3+ MB in size! There are two alternative explanations for this. 1) Apple has produced the best form of compression ever devised and strangely kept it under its hat or 2) somehow, the part of the file that tells the mac where to look for the rest of everything and what to do with it somehow gets divorced from the rest of the application when mac files go through (AOL?)/MIME/pine. In my case, this little snippet of a file might have allied itself with the Dark Forces Demo which was adjacent to it on the hard drive or something. Obviously, I have no hard facts on the matter, but I am very interested in what is going on here. I was truly astounded to find myself playing Dark Forces when I had intended to install a small extension to the system! For reference, the rest of the file (the data fork) which was untimely ripped from the Applefile, did not work, although I seem to recall that it was editable with teachtext. Carla, on a practical aside, have your friend send you the GIF as a binhexed file from his mac. That should solve the transfer problem. For you dudes and dudettes at washington.edu, I am using pine 3.91 for sgi on a Pers. Iris 4D/35 running IRIX 4.0.5. Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 11:26:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27837; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:26:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16810; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:18:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16804; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:18:35 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tIJlh-000sAbC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 20:19 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 22 Nov 95 20:18 MEZ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 20:17:48 +0100 (MET) From: Michael.Joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: NAVAL DESHBANDHU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: a peculiarity with pine on sunos 4.1.1 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is a flag for this: >From (M)ain-Menu chose (S)etup and (C)onfigure. Look for the feature-list and check if enable-jump-shortcut is activated. Seems like it's not. So activate it and enjoy! Ciao, Michael On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, NAVAL DESHBANDHU wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I compiled the entire pine/pico/imapd package on a sunos4.1.1 successfully. > > However, with pine, within the index list of any folder, I am unable to > jump to any message item by simply typing the number of the message. My > experience with pine on other platforms is to be able to do this. > > I guess it is possible that you might have run into similar observations. > Am I missing a file on my sunos platform, I mean other than the > pine/pico/imapd package? > > Your help is appreciated and if there is some pine related question I can > answer, I would sure like to help you out aswell. > > Thanks. > > Naval Deshbandhu > ndeshban@aic.gmu.edu > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE "Not a man to mince words. People, yes. But not words." (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 11:57:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29177; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:57:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17707; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:52:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17701; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:52:10 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 17:42:01 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA26099; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:26:40 GMT Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:26:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@CAC.Washington.EDU Subject: Re: Tab with MH incoming message folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > The TAB command in Pine checks a count of "recent" messages. When just > scanning folders, this count will always be zero, hence the behavior that > you observed. > > -- Mark -- Mark - Are you saying that the Tab key actually scans for the next Recent message? If so, Pine's Help screen for the Folder Index intriguingly says the following: : MESSAGE TEXT Screen Commands B Bounce * Flag : ---------------------------- : G Goto a specified folder General Pine Commands : H Full Header Mode --------------------- : Tab Next New O Show all other available commands ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (Apologies if I've misunderstood your comment and got hold of the wrong end of the stick!) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 12:12:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29921; Wed, 22 Nov 95 12:12:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19423; Wed, 22 Nov 95 12:06:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19417; Wed, 22 Nov 95 12:06:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tILPJ-00038CC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 12:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward Dunagin Subject: local newsgroup posting Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 13:35:17 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII using pine3.91 with linux 1.2.8 and innd...can't seem to post a reply in newsgroups nor originate a message in local newsgroups. error message with local posting say"cannot recognise newsgroup(name) not on bb system" or something like that. with reply posting in external newsgroups i get an error message that says "unwanted newsgroups 441 437" then the name of the newsgroup. please post or email................thanks.............ed edunagin@bbs.highnet2.columbus.oh.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 14:03:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05470; Wed, 22 Nov 95 14:03:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21360; Wed, 22 Nov 95 13:57:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21346; Wed, 22 Nov 95 13:57:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIN89-00038IC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 13:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Borek@psg.com, Lupomesky@psg.com Subject: Re: Control O does not work on Pico? Date: 21 Nov 1995 18:15:33 GMT Message-Id: <48t506$t7s@ns.felk.cvut.cz> References: <48qdsk$rl9@bud.shadow.net> In <48qdsk$rl9@bud.shadow.net> Shadow Information Services Network Administrator wrote: > How come Control O does not work with Pico? Everything else works fine. This is my problem as well: on SunOS 4.1.3, ^O doesn't work. On NeXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel, it does. Really strange. (For those who do not know, ^O saves text without exitting - as opposed to ^X). Bye Borek. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Borek Lupomesky (student, co-admin) University of J.E.Purkyne, Usti nad Labem, Czech Republic lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz, http://www.ujep.cz/~lupomesk/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 14:37:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07241; Wed, 22 Nov 95 14:37:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23788; Wed, 22 Nov 95 14:31:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from police.eng.usf.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23782; Wed, 22 Nov 95 14:31:57 -0800 Received: (from black@localhost) by police.eng.usf.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id RAA01722; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 17:31:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 17:31:51 -0500 (EST) From: James Black X-Sender: black@police To: Borek@psg.com, Lupomesky@psg.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Control O does not work on Pico? In-Reply-To: <48t506$t7s@ns.felk.cvut.cz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, On 21 Nov 1995 Borek@psg.com wrote: > In <48qdsk$rl9@bud.shadow.net> Shadow Information Services Network > Administrator wrote: > > How come Control O does not work with Pico? Everything else works fine. > > This is my problem as well: on SunOS 4.1.3, ^O doesn't work. On NeXTSTEP > 3.3 for Intel, it does. Really strange. (For those who do not know, ^O saves > text without exitting - as opposed to ^X). Using out copy of pine ^o (not zero) does work. Could you be trying a zero instead of an 'o'? Just a thought. James Black e-mail: black@eng.usf.edu http://www.eng.usf.edu/~black From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 15:12:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09207; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:12:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25028; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:07:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25022; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:07:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIODO-00038HC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g04srbro@gr.com (Stephen R Brothers) Subject: 'ksh: pico: cannot execute' Date: 22 Nov 1995 13:36:59 -0600 Message-Id: <48vu4r$pj2@handy.gr.com> 'ksh: pico: cannot execute' is the message that I get when I attempt to run pico. I am on an HP-UX machine and that is the version of the binary that I am running. I expect that pine will do the same. Anyone had a similar problem? TIA -S Steve Brothers, Greenbrier & Russel, Denver Office sbrothers@gr.com - Company ID 75557,541 - Personal CompuServe ID "Extraordinary Problems Require Extraordinary Solutions!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 15:15:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09358; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:15:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23919; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:12:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23913; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:12:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIOJR-00038CC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Subject: Re: Getting into vi from Pine Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:31:30 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I guess you could fake it. Start composing, get into vi (if you're not already in it) via the alternate-editor command, and then use ":edit "... ___ _ _a' /( <. # Simon Bradley: Knight Protector! # / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk # \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' # Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk # <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, # URL: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ # On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > As for using vi from _within_ Pine, you can do this for editing original > messages and replies, but I'm not sure you can do it to edit an > "independent" file. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 15:31:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10063; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:31:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25600; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:27:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25594; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:27:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIOW8-00038CC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward Dunagin Subject: NOOP Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:55:58 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII in my message log i am getting the error"nnrpd[3444] bbs.highnet2.columbus.oh.us unrecognized NNOP" can anyone tell me what this error means? Peace.....................ed edunagin@bbs.highnet2.columbus.oh.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 15:40:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10432; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:40:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24692; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:37:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24686; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:37:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIOgS-00038CC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jburger@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Jim Burger) Subject: Re: Offline mail/news reader for Pine? Date: 22 Nov 1995 22:24:49 GMT Message-Id: <4907vh$sqj@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: In article , Spencer Phillips wrote: >Is there such a thing as an offline mail and news reader for Pine? >If so, where can I find it? If there are more than one, which is best? I'm also looking for this. On a similar thread, someone suggested READMAIL, which I found and tried out. Go to http://vsl.cnet.com and search on readmail. The only problem with READMAIL is that none of the listing options show the TO field. Often, I need to search through old mail folders (stored on my pc) for a particular message I sent someone. READMAIL is not set up to do this. A search with an ASCII editor is the usual course of action. What I would like (I probably should add this to the next version of Pine wishlist thread) is a new command line switch for PC-Pine for an archive use. Right now, if you don't have the network drivers loaded, PC-Pine dumps you out and refuses to start. It would be nice to be able to start PC-Pine with a command line switch so we can just use it to read our old mail folders, with the full folder command set, so we can create a new folder, scan old folders, copy particular messages to the new folder... This would allow a DOS window to my Unix server with Pine running and my current folders available, and then another DOS window with PC-Pine (in read mode) reviewing my old folders on the local machine. Hope someone on the Pine development team sees this. Thanks. -Jim * jburger@indiana.edu * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 16:44:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12914; Wed, 22 Nov 95 16:44:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26330; Wed, 22 Nov 95 16:40:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26323; Wed, 22 Nov 95 16:40:47 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12635; Wed, 22 Nov 95 16:40:08 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:40:08 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Mark Crispin , pine-info@CAC.Washington.EDU Subject: Re: Tab with MH incoming message folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mike, There is an inconsistency between what TAB does within a folder, and what it does *between* folders. The help text is correct for the first case, but when you are at or past the last *new* message in a folder and press TAB, it will scan the incoming folder list looking for the next folder with any *recent* messages in it. We have debated whether this behavior is "correct", but that's the way it works today. -teg On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > > > The TAB command in Pine checks a count of "recent" messages. When just > > scanning folders, this count will always be zero, hence the behavior that > > you observed. > > > > -- Mark -- > > Mark - > > Are you saying that the Tab key actually scans for the next Recent > message? If so, Pine's Help screen for the Folder Index intriguingly > says the following: > > : MESSAGE TEXT Screen Commands B Bounce * Flag > : ---------------------------- > : G Goto a specified folder General Pine Commands > : H Full Header Mode --------------------- > : Tab Next New O Show all other available commands > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > (Apologies if I've misunderstood your comment and got hold of the wrong end > of the stick!) > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 16:51:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13178; Wed, 22 Nov 95 16:51:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27809; Wed, 22 Nov 95 16:46:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27803; Wed, 22 Nov 95 16:46:31 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12985; Wed, 22 Nov 95 16:46:27 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:46:27 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Jim Burger Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Offline mail/news reader for Pine? In-Reply-To: <4907vh$sqj@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Jim, It's true that PC-Pine does not yet have an offline mode (this is planned for next year and involves downloading pending mail, plus queing pending replies), but I would have expected that pc-pine with the -f flag would have worked for your needs... -teg On 22 Nov 1995, Jim Burger wrote: > In article , > Spencer Phillips wrote: > >Is there such a thing as an offline mail and news reader for Pine? > >If so, where can I find it? If there are more than one, which is best? > > I'm also looking for this. On a similar thread, someone suggested > READMAIL, which I found and tried out. Go to http://vsl.cnet.com and > search on readmail. > > The only problem with READMAIL is that none of the listing options > show the TO field. Often, I need to search through old mail folders > (stored on my pc) for a particular message I sent someone. READMAIL > is not set up to do this. A search with an ASCII editor is the usual > course of action. > > What I would like (I probably should add this to the next version of Pine > wishlist thread) is a new command line switch for PC-Pine for an archive > use. > > Right now, if you don't have the network drivers loaded, PC-Pine dumps > you out and refuses to start. It would be nice to be able to start > PC-Pine with a command line switch so we can just use it to read our old > mail folders, with the full folder command set, so we can create a new > folder, scan old folders, copy particular messages to the new folder... > > This would allow a DOS window to my Unix server with Pine running and my > current folders available, and then another DOS window with PC-Pine (in > read mode) reviewing my old folders on the local machine. > > Hope someone on the Pine development team sees this. Thanks. > > -Jim > > * jburger@indiana.edu * > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 20:36:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19756; Wed, 22 Nov 95 20:36:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02054; Wed, 22 Nov 95 20:32:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02048; Wed, 22 Nov 95 20:32:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tITIf-00038CC; Wed, 22 Nov 95 20:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: Control O does not work on Pico? Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 17:43:30 -0500 Message-Id: References: <48qdsk$rl9@bud.shadow.net> <48t506$t7s@ns.felk.cvut.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48t506$t7s@ns.felk.cvut.cz> > In <48qdsk$rl9@bud.shadow.net> Shadow Information Services Network > Administrator wrote: > > How come Control O does not work with Pico? Everything else works fine. > > This is my problem as well: on SunOS 4.1.3, ^O doesn't work. On NeXTSTEP > 3.3 for Intel, it does. Really strange. (For those who do not know, ^O saves > text without exitting - as opposed to ^X). > Hmm... on this NeXTSTep 3.3 for Intel, it crashes when I go control-o, but I'm also using a weird double dialin connection before I get here. -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 21:53:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21129; Wed, 22 Nov 95 21:53:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02373; Wed, 22 Nov 95 21:50:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mesa5.mesa.colorado.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02367; Wed, 22 Nov 95 21:50:45 -0800 Received: by mesa5.Mesa.Colorado.EDU (4.1/25-eef) id AA06235; Wed, 22 Nov 95 22:52:02 MST Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:52:02 -0700 (MST) From: "Russell D. James" Subject: Saving to floppy disk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear friends: I am new to this list, so I apologize if this question has been asked and answered before. I access my internet server from a Windows 3.1 environment, access a UNIX shell server with vi command capability, and use PINE 3.89. How do I save a message from my inbox (or any folder) to a floppy disk? Russell D. James Delta, CO From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 23:29:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23014; Wed, 22 Nov 95 23:29:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04488; Wed, 22 Nov 95 23:25:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04480; Wed, 22 Nov 95 23:25:56 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22964; Wed, 22 Nov 95 23:25:37 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 23:25:37 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: Mike Brudenell , Mark Crispin , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Tab with MH incoming message folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, that's right... I neglected to mention that TAB stops at either NEW (unseen) or IMPORTANT messages within a folder. -teg On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Mike, > > There is an inconsistency between what TAB does within a folder, and what > > it does *between* folders. The help text is correct for the first case, > > but when you are at or past the last *new* message in a folder and press > > TAB, it will scan the incoming folder list looking for the next folder > > with any *recent* messages in it. > > > > ... skipped ... > > > > : MESSAGE TEXT Screen Commands B Bounce * Flag > > > : ---------------------------- > > > : G Goto a specified folder General Pine Commands > > > : H Full Header Mode --------------------- > > > : Tab Next New O Show all other available commands > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > It seems to be not QUITE so. If I press TAB in a folder, I jump to the > next MARKED message (not neccessarily NEW). It could be e.g. Important > (marked with *). At least it is so by me. I am using 3.91 for Windows; > all folders are remote. > > Is the behavior correct? > > greetings > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de > SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 > ---------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 22 23:30:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23078; Wed, 22 Nov 95 23:30:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04460; Wed, 22 Nov 95 23:23:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04453; Wed, 22 Nov 95 23:23:31 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA13210 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 08:21:29 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA21049; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 10:22:55 +0300 (OET) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 10:23:38 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow To: Terry Gray Cc: Mike Brudenell , Mark Crispin , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Tab with MH incoming message folders X-Sender: bor@itsmx1.mow.sni.de In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > Mike, > There is an inconsistency between what TAB does within a folder, and what > it does *between* folders. The help text is correct for the first case, > but when you are at or past the last *new* message in a folder and press > TAB, it will scan the incoming folder list looking for the next folder > with any *recent* messages in it. > ... skipped ... > > : MESSAGE TEXT Screen Commands B Bounce * Flag > > : ---------------------------- > > : G Goto a specified folder General Pine Commands > > : H Full Header Mode --------------------- > > : Tab Next New O Show all other available commands > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > It seems to be not QUITE so. If I press TAB in a folder, I jump to the next MARKED message (not neccessarily NEW). It could be e.g. Important (marked with *). At least it is so by me. I am using 3.91 for Windows; all folders are remote. Is the behavior correct? greetings ---------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 23 01:19:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25102; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:19:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06215; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:13:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06208; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:13:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIXhq-00038CC; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pll@swl.msd.ray.com (Paul Lussier {83553}) Subject: Re: signature at bottom, but it isn't Date: 22 Nov 1995 18:52:36 GMT Message-Id: <48vrhk$31@swlab1.msd.ray.com> References: Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu) wrote: : I selected the 'signature at bottom' configuration, but when I reply (and : the original message is automatically inserted) my signature is at the top. : Am I doing something wrong or is this a known bug (pine 3.91)? Did you check to make sure that you told pine the path to your signature file relative to your home directory? There's a line in the Main/Setup/Config window, right before that long list of options that reads: signature-file = You need to enter the path and name of your sig file. For example, mine reads signature-file = .sig This must be set in addition to toggling the signature-at-bottom option. Hope this helps :) Seeya, Paul -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Paul Lussier = It is a good day =The next best thing to doing - = Raytheon ESD SEL - to put slinkies -something smart is not doing = - pll@swl.msd.ray.com = on escalators = something stupid. - =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = Quote of the week: = - Real programmers don't document. If it was hard to write, - = it should be hard to understand. = -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 23 01:27:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25230; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:27:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05536; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:13:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05530; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:13:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIXhr-00038DC; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pll@swl.msd.ray.com (Paul Lussier {83553}) Subject: From:/To: line too long Date: 22 Nov 1995 19:09:44 GMT Message-Id: <48vsho$31@swlab1.msd.ray.com> Quick question here. A user recently asked me if there were a way to supress the From ot To line when mailing to a list. For example, if I create a list of addresses in Pine, and compose a message to this list of people, is there a way that I can configure pine to only show that I'm composing a message to the list name without showing me who's on that list? When I mail to a list, I currently see this: To : listname - name@address1, name2, name3, etc. What I'd like to see is this: To : listname Cc : etc. ----- Message Text ----- By the same token, when some one on the list receives the mail, they should be able to see just: From : listname and also be able to toggle between a long listing of the From line the above described shorter listing. If this isn't currently possible, can it be a possible feature in a later release? Thanks for your time and effort, Paul P.S. If it is currently possible, can you point me to the proper docs? I tried to rtfm, but didn't find anything :( =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Paul Lussier = It is a good day =The next best thing to doing - = Raytheon ESD SEL - to put slinkies -something smart is not doing = - pll@swl.msd.ray.com = on escalators = something stupid. - =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = Quote of the week: = - Real programmers don't document. If it was hard to write, - = it should be hard to understand. = -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 23 03:26:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27191; Thu, 23 Nov 95 03:26:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07851; Thu, 23 Nov 95 03:18:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07845; Thu, 23 Nov 95 03:18:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIZdi-00038CC; Thu, 23 Nov 95 03:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ricks@utic.unicomp.net (Rick Stromberg) Subject: Bouncing messages to News Server Date: 23 Nov 1995 02:02:05 GMT Message-Id: <490kmt$q9q@news.unicomp.net> I am moderating a news group and using PINE as my mailer. I have customized the header so the the Approved: line appears and makes the news server happy, but I am forced to reply to each and every message in order to get it to post to the newsgroup. I tried to use the bounce command but it asks me for an e-mail address. Is there a way to send it to x.x.x ???? Any help would be appreciated. -- The Rickman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 23 08:39:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02020; Thu, 23 Nov 95 08:39:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11147; Thu, 23 Nov 95 08:19:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11141; Thu, 23 Nov 95 08:19:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIeIR-00038CC; Thu, 23 Nov 95 08:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bs@alien2.ed.nce.sita.int Subject: Atismail Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 09:42:17 GMT Message-Id: <817119778.16199@pc_bs.ed.nce.sita.int> Does someone know what happened to Atismail? If no more available and maintained, who knows other IMAPclient with X.500 interface. thanks in advance best regards Bernard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 23 09:50:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03418; Thu, 23 Nov 95 09:50:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12997; Thu, 23 Nov 95 09:40:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from amanda.dorsai.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12991; Thu, 23 Nov 95 09:40:53 -0800 Received: by dorsai.dorsai.org (5.67b/23Dec93-Dorsai Embassy) id AA02024; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:36:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:35:59 -0500 (est) From: Walter Schmidt To: pine mailinglist Cc: Walter Schmidt Subject: Online help in a file Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ...I must have missed it, but after dl'ing the available files, I still can not find how to dl what would be the equivalent of the FULL text of Pine's on line help -- all screens, from all menus, etc. So, how do I get...[thanks in advance] REgards, walts@dorsai.org --------------- Walter C. Schmidt, CPA Computers | http://www.dorsai.org/~walts/ Accounting & | Vice President Massapequa Chamber mcc@dorsai.org Taxes | Chair Nassau Council Net Access nccc@dorsai.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 23 12:40:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06155; Thu, 23 Nov 95 12:40:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15400; Thu, 23 Nov 95 12:34:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15394; Thu, 23 Nov 95 12:34:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIiJD-00038CC; Thu, 23 Nov 95 12:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Saving to floppy disk Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 10:55:15 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 22 Nov 1995, Russell D. James wrote: > I am new to this list, so I apologize if this question has been > asked and answered before. I access my internet server from a Windows > 3.1 environment, access a UNIX shell server with vi command capability, > and use PINE 3.89. > How do I save a message from my inbox (or any folder) to a floppy disk? If you want to save a single message (mail or newsgroup posting), probably the simplest way is to use the export command to save it in an individual Unix file. Then exit Pine and just download that file the way you would any other. (There is no single way to do this: it depends on what software is available to both your shell account and Windows, so I cannot give general instructions applicable to everybody.) Remember to delete the exproted copy of the file. You can also download every message in a folder at once, if you wish, simply because a folder is itself a single Unix ASCII file. Just change to the directory in which your folders reside and download the whole folder by name. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 23 14:04:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07944; Thu, 23 Nov 95 14:04:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16129; Thu, 23 Nov 95 13:59:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16123; Thu, 23 Nov 95 13:59:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIjcy-00038CC; Thu, 23 Nov 95 13:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nicole Claire Tapper Subject: Re: Sendmail and Pine Date: 23 Nov 1995 20:22:20 GMT Message-Id: <492l5s$jrg@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <48epqf$4rj@stealth.fer.uni-lj.si> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What are ya at? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 23 14:04:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07972; Thu, 23 Nov 95 14:04:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16834; Thu, 23 Nov 95 13:59:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16828; Thu, 23 Nov 95 13:59:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tIjcz-00038DC; Thu, 23 Nov 95 13:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nicole Claire Tapper Subject: Re: Sendmail and Pine Date: 23 Nov 1995 20:22:26 GMT Message-Id: <492l62$irj@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <48epqf$4rj@stealth.fer.uni-lj.si> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What are ya at? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 24 01:32:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18087; Fri, 24 Nov 95 01:32:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26016; Fri, 24 Nov 95 01:24:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailgate.eur.nl by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26010; Fri, 24 Nov 95 01:24:08 -0800 Received: from vx1 (vx1.hes-rdam.nl) by mailgate.eur.nl (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09377; Fri, 24 Nov 95 10:24:07 +0100 Received: from HES-RDAM.NL by HES-RDAM.NL (PMDF V4.3-10 #12472) id <01HY0NW7TID6001I8H@HES-RDAM.NL>; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:26:13 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:26:13 +0000 (GMT) From: BI010085251@HES-RDAM.NL Subject: info To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01HY0NW7TS0S001I8H@HES-RDAM.NL> X-Envelope-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Please send me some info thanks Gravedigger From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 24 04:06:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20500; Fri, 24 Nov 95 04:06:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27835; Fri, 24 Nov 95 03:59:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailgate.eur.nl by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27829; Fri, 24 Nov 95 03:59:48 -0800 Received: from vx1 (vx1.hes-rdam.nl) by mailgate.eur.nl (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14816; Fri, 24 Nov 95 12:59:47 +0100 Received: from HES-RDAM.NL by HES-RDAM.NL (PMDF V4.3-10 #12472) id <01HY0TC723YO001F2B@HES-RDAM.NL>; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:01:52 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:01:52 +0000 (GMT) From: BI010078921@HES-RDAM.NL Subject: information To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01HY0TC72DMA001F2B@HES-RDAM.NL> X-Envelope-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT please send me more info at this adress M. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 24 09:40:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25902; Fri, 24 Nov 95 09:40:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02569; Fri, 24 Nov 95 09:31:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02563; Fri, 24 Nov 95 09:31:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJ1xf-00038CC; Fri, 24 Nov 95 09:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cray@pixi.com (c ray talania) Subject: telnetting from CIS to INET account Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:30:20 -1000 Message-Id: When I'm on the road, I would like to access my Internet account thru Compuserve. I would accomplish this via Telnet. I have a Powerbook 145. Does anyone know if my Powerbook needs special configuring? And if so, what is the configuration. This is so I would be able to use all the commands currently available on my shell account. Thanks, C Ray Talania cray@pixi.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 25 08:51:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17222; Sat, 25 Nov 95 08:51:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20428; Sat, 25 Nov 95 08:32:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20422; Sat, 25 Nov 95 08:32:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJNUA-00038CC; Sat, 25 Nov 95 08:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dongwon@news.cs.columbia.edu (Dong-Won Lee) Subject: [Q] can i delete multiple files at once? Date: 23 Nov 1995 12:57:40 -0500 Message-Id: <492cmk$kii@ground.cs.columbia.edu> please answer via e-mail "dongwon@cs.columbia.edu" does anyone know how to save or delete several files at once in pine? (rather than delete each file one by one by pressing "d", i want to delete like "file 3 to file 7 out of 10 files) pine> d 3-7 ; means delete file no 3-7. same goes save. in pine, i couldn't find it... many thanks! -- -- Dong-Won Lee won@taz.ho.att.com | dongwon@cs.columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 25 12:34:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20600; Sat, 25 Nov 95 12:34:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23524; Sat, 25 Nov 95 12:28:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23518; Sat, 25 Nov 95 12:28:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJRC5-00038CC; Sat, 25 Nov 95 12:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Lists in Pine (was Aliases in Pine) Date: 24 Nov 1995 02:03:33 GMT Message-Id: <49395l$mtl@news.ysu.edu> References: In a previous article, hubert@cac.washington.edu (Steve Hubert) says: >If you can try setting smtp-server in the Setup/Config screen, that should >get around the problem. That uses a different method to figure out who >the recipients are, so doesn't run into the same buffer overflow. You >can try > >smtp-server=localhost > >as a first attempt. If that doesn't work, try setting it to the actual >hostname of the host you are on. If that doesn't work, try setting it to >the hostname of some other smtp server you have access to. A good name to try for this is smtp-server=mailhost This will work if your organization or school has a central mail server which is intended to handle most mail, and it's been given the nickname of mailhost -- a generic, easy-to-remember name and a nice practice to follow. If this doesn't work, you'll have to use a specific name of an smtp server. Note too that one can specify a number of servers; in the event one of them is down, unreachable, overloaded, or otherwise not functional, Pine will try the next, and the next, and the next, until finally one responds. smtp-server=mailhost, backup.host.our.edu, spam.i.am.com, localhost -- Barry Bouwsma, Mendel University Brno, Czech Republic -- I Still Have No Life Flash! Seeking work with computers over winter in Czech or Slovak Republic... (or Austria, Switzerland, Germany...) send offers to This sig is five lines long. Check your newsreader configuration if you do not From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 25 12:34:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20606; Sat, 25 Nov 95 12:34:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24546; Sat, 25 Nov 95 12:28:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24540; Sat, 25 Nov 95 12:28:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJRC6-00038DC; Sat, 25 Nov 95 12:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wilfred@HK.LinkAGE.NET (Wilfred Chan) Subject: Time Zone Incorrect? Date: 24 Nov 1995 10:27:10 GMT Message-Id: <4946lu$efl@news.hk.linkage.net> hi, I've found in the header of my pine mail that the time zone is +48000 in the Date field. It is supposed to be +0800 only. There is no such problem with other mail program so I think there may be some settings incorrect in pine. Any help? Also, the X-sender header has only the machine name but not domain name appended. Anyone knows how to change the machine name to domain name in the X-sender header field? Thanks in advance, -Wilfred From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 25 16:58:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24412; Sat, 25 Nov 95 16:58:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27001; Sat, 25 Nov 95 16:53:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26995; Sat, 25 Nov 95 16:53:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJVDH-00038CC; Sat, 25 Nov 95 16:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) Subject: Re: TRN: to change my e-mail address. Date: 24 Nov 1995 01:17:23 GMT Message-Id: <4936f3$hi4@news.orst.edu> References: <487i9c$hp@maggie-black.austin.wireline.slb.com> <48cias$l0s@jobe.shell.portal.com> In article <48cias$l0s@jobe.shell.portal.com>, Kim DeVaughn wrote: >In article , > Sven Guckes wrote: >| Manzoor ul Hassan writes: >| >I' dlike to change the e-mail address to reply to when I'm posting via trn. >| >| I am sure trn gives you a setup file for specifying your email address. >| That's usually the case when the default is used. RTFM! > >It is NOT the responsibility of a newsreader to ofrm and format the >"From: " line of an article's header. > >Now why don't *you* RTFRFC! Why don't you read the question and the FRFC? >To answer Manzoor's original question ... on most UNIX systems, you only >need to set the NAME env var to whatever you want, and the transport s/w Not an answer. NAME is not an address. It appears as a comment in the From: header. >If that doesn't do the trick, here's a workaround ... you MAY be able to >add your own properly formatted "From: " line to the article header, and I thought it wasn't the responsibility of the newsreader to do this. It isn't an answer to the question anyway. He doesn't want to change the From: header, he wants to change the address people reply to. Here is the answer to the question. If you want to change the address that people will send replies to, use the same editor that lets you edit the message to insert the line "Reply-To: your.address@wherever.domain" in the header. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 25 18:27:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26110; Sat, 25 Nov 95 18:27:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29103; Sat, 25 Nov 95 18:24:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29097; Sat, 25 Nov 95 18:24:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJWjt-00038CC; Sat, 25 Nov 95 18:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Time Zone Incorrect? Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 00:23:13 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4946lu$efl@news.hk.linkage.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4946lu$efl@news.hk.linkage.net> What version of Pine do you have, and on what type of system? This is believed to be fixed in Pine 3.91. On 24 Nov 1995, Wilfred Chan wrote: > hi, > I've found in the header of my pine mail that the time zone is > +48000 in the Date field. It is supposed to be +0800 only. > > There is no such problem with other mail program so I think there > may be some settings incorrect in pine. Any help? > > Also, the X-sender header has only the machine name but not domain > name appended. Anyone knows how to change the machine name to domain name > in the X-sender header field? > > Thanks in advance, > -Wilfred > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 25 18:46:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26444; Sat, 25 Nov 95 18:46:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28451; Sat, 25 Nov 95 18:44:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28445; Sat, 25 Nov 95 18:44:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJX2F-00038CC; Sat, 25 Nov 95 18:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Uwe Richter Subject: Accessing ~/Mail with MH Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:25:45 +0100 Message-Id: <30B2FAA9.41C6@MInet.uni-jena.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, having compiled PINE 3.91 successfully on OSF/1 3.2 i have some problems while accessing MH folders in $HOME/Mail. Well, existing MH folders can be accessd with folder collection #mh/[]. But i'm not able to add a new folder. PINE says: [Can't create mailbox #mh/pinetest3: No such file or directory] I'm afraid PINE constantly tries to work with $HOME/mail, and #mh/Mail/[] doesn't work. On the other hand if i set the folder to: {my-server.dom.uni-jena.de/imap}#mh/[] everything works o.k. Well, i think in case of a remote folder IMAPd looks at my $HOME/.mh_profile where $HOME/Mail (instead of $HOME/mail) is defined. Can anyone give me a hint for specifying MH Dir/Folder locally. Thanks in advance Uwe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 25 22:31:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29627; Sat, 25 Nov 95 22:31:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02444; Sat, 25 Nov 95 22:28:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02438; Sat, 25 Nov 95 22:28:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJaSf-00038DC; Sat, 25 Nov 95 22:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flavell@v2.ph.gla.ac.uk (Alan J. Flavell) Subject: Re: Attachments Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 11:16:32 GMT References: In article , carla@Cookie.secapl.com (Carla Golden) writes: >How can I view the APPLEFILE? How can you print the below files? > > >[Part 2.1, Application/APPLEFILE 588bytes] > [Can not display this part. Use the "V" command to save in a file] > > > [Part 2.2, Image/GIF 35KB] > [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] The applefile is of no use to you other than on a Mac. Just ignore it. However, the Image/GIF should be fine - just follow the instructions for saving it to a disk file, and (if necessary) override the Mac filename that it offers you, with a filename that is appropriate on your own system. What do you mean, "print" it? If you want a paper copy, you'll still need an application that can understand GIF image files on your system. Just sending a GIF-format image to a printer is not likely to do anything useful. Since you did not say what system you are using, it's hard to advise you. If it's unix then you should get (if you don't already have) the shareware app "xv". On a peecee you could use Lview. There are lots of other packagess that can do this, though. There are usenet groups that deal specifically with graphics/images: look in their FAQs for recommendations. Good luck --- Alan | http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/ (Umleiting - Sigbau) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 25 23:32:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00450; Sat, 25 Nov 95 23:32:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02479; Sat, 25 Nov 95 23:29:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02473; Sat, 25 Nov 95 23:29:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJbUq-00038DC; Sat, 25 Nov 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tim.livingston@attws.com Subject: Using PINE on a mac. Date: 24 Nov 1995 14:27:50 GMT Message-Id: <494kp6$c8k@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> Hi, When I dial-in to my university account and attempt to read my new email via Pine, I get mixed lines of characters and message headers on the screen making it unreadable, it seems to write over itself without refreshing the screen. When I logon I set the term to VT100, is there a better emulation? I'm using ZTerm and I believe it's setup properly. Thanks for any information that you can provide, Tim Livingston tim.livingston@attws.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 00:19:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01223; Sun, 26 Nov 95 00:19:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03841; Sun, 26 Nov 95 00:17:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03835; Sun, 26 Nov 95 00:17:00 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA22061; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:19:31 +0500 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:19:30 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using PINE on a mac. In-Reply-To: <494kp6$c8k@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1436 On 24 Nov 1995 tim.livingston@attws.com wrote: > When I dial-in to my university account and attempt to read my new > email via Pine, I get mixed lines of characters and message headers on the > screen making it unreadable, it seems to write over itself without > refreshing the screen. When I logon I set the term to VT100, is there a > better emulation? I'm using ZTerm and I believe it's setup properly. ZTerm users on our system have reported the same problem. All of the following contribute to the cure: o Make sure you are using a recent version of ZTerm (preferably 1.0.1, but at least 1.0b3). o Make sure ZTerm is set for VT102 terminal emulation, not PC/ANSI. o If possible on your host, select VT102 at login, not VT100. o Make sure your terminal window is sized at 24 lines by 80 characters. The current size is shown at the bottom of the window; drag the size box until it is 24 X 80. o Make sure you are using a monospaced font sized to fit the 24 X 80 window size (typically Monaco 9 for a small screen, Monaco 12 for a large screen, or ZTerm's built-in "terminal font" in 9 pt or 12 pt). -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 03:22:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03280; Sun, 26 Nov 95 03:22:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06009; Sun, 26 Nov 95 03:20:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06003; Sun, 26 Nov 95 03:20:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJf7T-00038CC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 03:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ydnar Subject: Lines of text are limited Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 02:10:02 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm sorry if this is really an obvious question but I've been throught the help as much as I possibly can. Here the q. I am limited to reading only 10-11 lines of text (header included) on my screen (menu keys would be lines 13-14). When in the main menu I don't see anything after the ADDRESS BOOK selection, meaning I just guess to find SETUP and EXIT. Dis is really annoying. Now the real q is - What the fix? Is it my problem or the servers? ... Thanks in advance! ************************************************************************** Advertise on the WWW for just $25/mo, includes: 24 hr access! 5 meg of WWW Home Page space! Domain names available! An MLM opportunity. Get your service Free, & market for your future! For more info E-mail me at: rjshultz@liberty.com My WWW site is: http:www.liberty.com/home/rjshultz ************************************************************************** ****************************************** * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 04:29:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04335; Sun, 26 Nov 95 04:29:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06146; Sun, 26 Nov 95 04:25:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06140; Sun, 26 Nov 95 04:25:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJg4I-00038CC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 04:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ermimwei@er.ele.tue.nl Subject: IMAP deamon for Windows NT Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 01:33:06 LOCAL Message-Id: We're planning to migrate all services to a Windows NT environment. What is the best package for an mail transfer agent? At the moment mail is stored on vms and read by pine clients via an IMAP deamon. Is there a IMAP deamon for Windows NT? Are there bettter solutions ? Thanks in advance, Wim Beckers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 04:53:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04652; Sun, 26 Nov 95 04:53:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07257; Sun, 26 Nov 95 04:50:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07251; Sun, 26 Nov 95 04:50:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJgW6-00038DC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 04:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "C. W. Tazewell" Subject: PC-Pine Windows Mail Problem Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 01:47:42 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, My PC-Pine for Windows gets News Groups and the Update files fine. But, it won't do mail at all. And, I can't find the folders that it says it has setup on my PC. On the Configure menu what do you show as the INBOX? The INBOX on the PC or the INBOX on the provider's UNIX machine. On mine it would be /var/spool/mail/cwt. My setup doesn't like that. It accepts INBOX ok, but then says "closed due to access error." Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks, Bill. Hampton Roads Window to the World The Virtual Library is *THE REASON* to have the Internet! Your Internet WWW HOTLIST! Don't hunt the Web - It's on the Virtual Library of Hampton Roads. Set it up as your Netscape Home Page: http://wwwp.exis.net/~cwt/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 05:45:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05142; Sun, 26 Nov 95 05:45:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06949; Sun, 26 Nov 95 05:35:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06943; Sun, 26 Nov 95 05:35:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJhBP-00038CC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 05:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: keithc@ramlink.net (Keith A. Clay) Subject: Compiling PINE under SCO/UNIX 3.2.4 Date: 26 Nov 1995 12:50:00 GMT Message-Id: <499npo$3en@ram2.ramlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Has anyone compiled pine under sco 3.2.4. I am having great problems with this. It seems to be almost a catch-22. If I compile with -posix, it fixes some things and breaks others. If compile with -ansi also, fixes some, breaks some. The major errors have to do with including syslog.h and the definitions of ushort and caddr_t (which are defined until you choose posix compliance. Thanks! keith a. clay keithc@ramlink.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 06:50:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05834; Sun, 26 Nov 95 06:50:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08509; Sun, 26 Nov 95 06:45:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08503; Sun, 26 Nov 95 06:45:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJiGq-00038DC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 06:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP deamon for Windows NT Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 18:26:29 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 25 Nov 1995 ermimwei@er.ele.tue.nl wrote: > We're planning to migrate all services to a Windows NT > environment. What is the best package for an > mail transfer agent? At the moment mail is stored on vms > and read by pine clients via an IMAP deamon. > > Is there a IMAP deamon for Windows NT? The imap-4 toolkit has an alpha version of an imapd for NT. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 11:00:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09278; Sun, 26 Nov 95 11:00:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11454; Sun, 26 Nov 95 10:57:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11448; Sun, 26 Nov 95 10:57:21 -0800 Received: (from andrew@localhost) by server.bridgeway.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA05849; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:58:53 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:58:52 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Le To: tim.livingston@attws.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using PINE on a mac. In-Reply-To: <494kp6$c8k@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Under Zterm, under Settings->Terminal, trying turning Auto-Line feed on (or off) and see if that makes a difference... On 24 Nov 1995 tim.livingston@attws.com wrote: > Hi, > > When I dial-in to my university account and attempt to read my new > email via Pine, I get mixed lines of characters and message headers on the > screen making it unreadable, it seems to write over itself without > refreshing the screen. When I logon I set the term to VT100, is there a > better emulation? I'm using ZTerm and I believe it's setup properly. > > Thanks for any information that you can provide, > Tim Livingston > tim.livingston@attws.com > ================================================================== Andrew Le support@bridgeway.com Bridgeway Corporation 206-881-4270 Bridging the Gap in Network Mgt. 206-861-1774 fax ================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 11:09:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09453; Sun, 26 Nov 95 11:09:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10976; Sun, 26 Nov 95 11:06:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10970; Sun, 26 Nov 95 11:05:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJmMD-00038CC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 11:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward Dunagin Subject: article number Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 09:23:09 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII it sure would be nice if the number of articles in a particular newsgroup would show up in the folder list section menu. is there anyway of doing this with version 3.91? or....consider ading to wish list. Peace...........................ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 12:26:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10471; Sun, 26 Nov 95 12:26:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12006; Sun, 26 Nov 95 12:20:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12000; Sun, 26 Nov 95 12:20:09 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA10861 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:20:07 +0100 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:18:49 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: "Keith A. Clay" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Compiling PINE under SCO/UNIX 3.2.4 In-Reply-To: <499npo$3en@ram2.ramlink.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Nov 1995, Keith A. Clay wrote: > Has anyone compiled pine under sco 3.2.4. I am having great problems > with this. It seems to be almost a catch-22. If I compile with > -posix, it fixes some things and breaks others. If compile with -ansi > also, fixes some, breaks some. The major errors have to do with > including syslog.h and the definitions of ushort and caddr_t (which are > defined until you choose posix compliance. Thanks! > > keith a. clay > keithc@ramlink.net We have Pine-3.91 running sinds March 1995 on SCO 3.2v4.2. Why did you compile with "-posix" ? I think we used "build CC=cc sco" If you like, I can send you the make-log to see what happened. Yes, is works OK with MMDF... --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 13:59:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12508; Sun, 26 Nov 95 13:59:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13904; Sun, 26 Nov 95 13:44:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acfsysv.roosevelt.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13898; Sun, 26 Nov 95 13:44:56 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 15:39:44 -600 (CST) From: Mark Burnell Subject: Undeleting? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine, I'm trying to find out how to retreive a message that was accidentally deleted. I read the FAQ, and I downloaded the http://www.cac.washington.edu /pine document, but I haven't found the answer yet. Please respond, because I need to know if I can get the message back. Thank You, Mark Burnell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 14:39:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13373; Sun, 26 Nov 95 14:39:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14622; Sun, 26 Nov 95 14:26:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14616; Sun, 26 Nov 95 14:26:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJpVE-00038CC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 14:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: h9397584@hkusua.hku.hk (Michael Agelasto) Subject: Pine hangs & creates .addressbook.lu Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 09:35:03 GMT We just upgraded to SunOS 5.4 and Pine 3.91 insists on creating a phony addressbook called .addressbook.lu Config defaults to .addressbook. Also, Pine won't save to folders or send FCC to sent-mail. addressbook.lu has 686 lines and looks something like this: P#*E@ 03 300 65535 65535 52233009 71312660 0 65535 65535 52491847 96653795 48 [snip] 65535 65535 65535 65535 65535 65535 P#*E@ 82 11 49 49 48 48 817377422 0 Any help is appreciated. ===================================================================== Michael Agelasto Phone: (852) 2858-1914 Department of Education (852) 2549-5678 (res) University of Hong Kong Fax: (852) 2857-9279 Hong Kong email: michael@hkusub.hku.hk http://www.hku.hk/educ/michael ===================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 15:38:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14476; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:38:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14943; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:34:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14937; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:34:03 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14351; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:34:01 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 15:34:00 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "C. W. Tazewell" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine Windows Mail Problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII PC-Pine assumes your INBOX is on a mail server with an IMAP daemon running. The inbox path syntax would be something like inbox-path={imap.exis.net}inbox -teg On Sat, 25 Nov 1995, C. W. Tazewell wrote: > Hi, > My PC-Pine for Windows gets News Groups and the Update files fine. > But, it won't do mail at all. And, I can't find the folders that it says > it has setup on my PC. > On the Configure menu what do you show as the INBOX? The INBOX on > the PC or the INBOX on the provider's UNIX machine. On mine it would be > /var/spool/mail/cwt. My setup doesn't like that. It accepts INBOX ok, > but then says "closed due to access error." > Any ideas will be appreciated. > Thanks, > Bill. > > Hampton Roads Window to the World > The Virtual Library is *THE REASON* to have the Internet! > Your Internet WWW HOTLIST! > Don't hunt the Web - > It's on the Virtual Library of Hampton Roads. > Set it up as your Netscape Home Page: > http://wwwp.exis.net/~cwt/ > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 15:49:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14718; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:49:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15201; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:46:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15195; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:46:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJqhs-00038CC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Rotman Subject: copy of sent mail Date: 26 Nov 1995 22:34:59 GMT Message-Id: <49aq2j$995@fstgal00.tu-graz.ac.at> How can I make a copy of every mail I send? -- ================================================================================ Robert Rotman Schuetzenhofg.19 A-8010 Graz Tel: (++43) 0316 81 14 51 mail: caketin@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at ================================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 15:59:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14941; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:59:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15352; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:56:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15346; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:56:22 -0800 Received: (from andrew@localhost) by server.bridgeway.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA06461; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 15:57:45 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 15:57:45 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Le To: Robert Rotman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: copy of sent mail In-Reply-To: <49aq2j$995@fstgal00.tu-graz.ac.at> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII By default, Pine saves your mail you send... Go into "L - Select Folder" and choose "Sent mail." On 26 Nov 1995, Robert Rotman wrote: > How can I make a copy of every mail I send? > > -- > ================================================================================ > Robert Rotman > Schuetzenhofg.19 > A-8010 Graz > Tel: (++43) 0316 81 14 51 > mail: caketin@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at > ================================================================================ > > > ================================================================== Andrew Le support@bridgeway.com Bridgeway Corporation 206-881-4270 Bridging the Gap in Network Mgt. 206-861-1774 fax ================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 16:00:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15018; Sun, 26 Nov 95 16:00:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15927; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:56:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15921; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:56:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJqup-00038CC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 15:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine hangs & creates .addressbook.lu Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 17:44:28 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, Michael Agelasto wrote (excerpt): > We just upgraded to SunOS 5.4 and Pine 3.91 insists on creating a phony > addressbook called .addressbook.lu .addressbook.lu is not a "phony addressbook." It is deliberately created by Pine to make use of a large addressbook more efficient by means of a lookup table. If Pine creates it, keep it. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 16:10:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15156; Sun, 26 Nov 95 16:10:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15486; Sun, 26 Nov 95 16:06:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15480; Sun, 26 Nov 95 16:06:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJr3J-00038CC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 16:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: copy of sent mail Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 17:49:04 -0500 Message-Id: References: <49aq2j$995@fstgal00.tu-graz.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <49aq2j$995@fstgal00.tu-graz.ac.at> On 26 Nov 1995, Robert Rotman wrote: > How can I make a copy of every mail I send? If you are using Pine 3.91, from the Main Menu go into Setup and Config. On the first screen is a field called "default-fcc". It gives the name of the folder to which all mails are automatically saved unless you override it for a particular mail. Make sure that field is not set to "" or " ", either explicitly or by default. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 16:26:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15414; Sun, 26 Nov 95 16:26:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16281; Sun, 26 Nov 95 16:21:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16275; Sun, 26 Nov 95 16:21:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJrFX-00038CC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 16:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Enriquez Subject: PC Pine and the HP 200LX Date: 26 Nov 1995 00:40:25 GMT Message-Id: <498d1p$rit@usenet1.interramp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to use PC Pine with the HP 200LX Palmtop computer? I have a POP account and I heard that Pine does not work with the POP accounts. Thanks in advance, Tony Enriquez From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 26 18:00:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16981; Sun, 26 Nov 95 18:00:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16868; Sun, 26 Nov 95 17:46:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16862; Sun, 26 Nov 95 17:46:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tJsZz-00038CC; Sun, 26 Nov 95 17:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Tab with MH incoming message folders Date: 26 Nov 1995 03:33:35 GMT Message-Id: <498n6f$7l2@hustle.rahul.net> References: <48ruph$jce@usenet.pa.dec.com> In Mark Crispin writes: >The MH folder system does not provide >any place to maintain some of the information which Pine likes to maintain >about messages and the folder.... ... >..."seen" is >defined to mean "the user has read this message in some way". ... >With MH, both "recent" and "seen" are inferred from information read from >the folder directory (via readdir()) and file inodes (via stat()). MH does keeps track of whether a message has been seen or not, via the 'unseen' sequence. Once the user defines this sequence in his .mh_profile with a line like unseen-sequence: unseen all the MH utilities will create, delete, and update this sequence as needed. Thus you can scan for all unseen messages with 'scan unseen', or scan for all seen messages with 'scan ^unseen' (assuming you defined the ^ character for sequence negation), or see all unseen messages with 'show unseen', etc. Other software could well maintain other information, such as another sequence called 'recent', though of course this would be neither used nor updated by MH-specific utilities. But since MH does maintain a 'cur' sequence that remembers which message was last read, it's not clear to my why one needs 'recent' at all. Assuming the user reads messages sequentially, 'cur' will indicate where the user should continue reading where he left off. I will append below a portion of the 'man .mh_profile' online manual. Unseen-Sequence: unseen Names the sequences which should be defined as those messages recently incorporated by inc. Show knows to remove messages from this sequence once it thinks they have been seen. If not present, or empty, no sequences are defined. Otherwise, for each name given, the sequence is first zero'd and then each message is added to the sequence. (pro- file, no default) -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 27 01:51:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24165; Mon, 27 Nov 95 01:51:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23428; Mon, 27 Nov 95 01:40:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23385; Mon, 27 Nov 95 01:38:45 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:36:41 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA02955; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:38:13 GMT Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:38:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Mark Burnell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Undeleting? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If the message has simply been *marked for delete* (by using the "D" key) *and* hasn't yet been expunged (permanently deleted) by either quitting Pine, using the "X" command, or closing the mail folder to open another.... ....then you can remove the "marked for delete" mark by reading/highlightimh the message and using the "U" (Undelete) key. (It's shown in the menu at the bottom of the screen.) HOWEVER.... If the mail folder has been expunged then the message is gone forever from the file in which your messages are stored. It's just the same as if you remove a file on UNIX by typing "rm filename" -- it has gone. In this case your only hope is to go and be exceedingly nice to your systems administrator and see if they may be able to restore the file from a recent backup of the computer. This relies on them having taken a backup whilst the message existed in your mail file; if they didn't (say because you deleted the message soon after it arrived) then it is gone for good. Your last hope would be to contact the sender and ask if they could send you the message again. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, Mark Burnell wrote: > Pine, > I'm trying to find out how to retreive a message that was accidentally > deleted. I read the FAQ, and I downloaded the http://www.cac.washington.edu > /pine document, but I haven't found the answer yet. Please respond, because > I need to know if I can get the message back. > > Thank You, Mark Burnell > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 27 08:20:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01830; Mon, 27 Nov 95 08:20:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29260; Mon, 27 Nov 95 08:08:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29254; Mon, 27 Nov 95 08:08:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tK626-00038CC; Mon, 27 Nov 95 08:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pete Holsberg Subject: UIDL Command Message-Id: <30B93AB2.2857@mccc.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 04:12:34 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Netscape 2.0 beta 3 claims that your POP3 server doesn't support the UIDL command. Are they correct? Do you have one that does? Thanks, Pete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 27 13:16:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17905; Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:16:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08661; Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:09:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08655; Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:09:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKAlm-00038DC; Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bgo@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Brian Go) Subject: PC-Pine on Win95 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 19:14:29 GMT I am trying to configure PC-pine for my home box. Is there a way to have Pine download my INBOX so it is local? It's such a waste to have it grab an update everytime I do something. Also, it has a tendancy to lock up my system. Is it a bug or is it something to live with? Brian -- Brian Go Many dreams come true Aspiring OrganoGuitarist And some have silver linings Displaced Montrealer I live for my dreams Exiled in Waterloo And a pocket full of gold From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 27 13:32:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18797; Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:32:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09314; Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:24:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09308; Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:24:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKB1X-00038CC; Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kime@cs.purdue.edu (Frank J. Kime Jr.) Subject: UNIX pine? how do I leave mail on pop server Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 19:59:30 GMT Message-Id: <49d5b2$a90_001@cc.purdue.edu> Is there a configuration to have pine leave mail on the pop server after reading it? Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 27 15:06:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24000; Mon, 27 Nov 95 15:06:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12309; Mon, 27 Nov 95 14:59:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12303; Mon, 27 Nov 95 14:59:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKCTZ-00038CC; Mon, 27 Nov 95 14:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adpc01@162.48.130.11 Subject: blind carbon copy Date: 27 Nov 1995 13:37:27 GMT Message-Id: <49ceun$lng@reeve.research.aa.wl.com> Is there a way to setup a blind carbon copy in pine that is totally transparent to both the sender and recipient? Ideally, I would only have to set this up once and all of my outgoing messages would be sent to my other address for storage. thanks for any suggestions, michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 27 21:44:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07176; Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:44:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20981; Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:40:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20975; Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:40:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKIkL-00038CC; Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: threads Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:37:02 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Edward Dunagin wrote: > does pine have threading options? yes, sort of. Choose 'sort by OrderedSubject'. Works for me TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 27 21:48:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07264; Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:48:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21123; Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:45:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21117; Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:45:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKIqR-00038DC; Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: "Signature at bottom" not for forwarding Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:39:20 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was complaining about the "Signature at bottom" option not seeming to work. it seems that it does work, for REPLY. When I forward a message it puts the signature at the top. Anyone else think this is a bug? Or at least not ideal? Does this happen for others? thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu (MIME fine! NeXTMail if necessary) 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (UGH! DOS! Yuck.... Don't use this) "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 27 23:54:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09714; Mon, 27 Nov 95 23:54:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22909; Mon, 27 Nov 95 23:43:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22897; Mon, 27 Nov 95 23:43:20 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA01071 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:43:17 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:41:31 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: adpc01@162.48.130.11 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: blind carbon copy In-Reply-To: <49ceun$lng@reeve.research.aa.wl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Nov 1995 adpc01@162.48.130.11 wrote: > Is there a way to setup a blind carbon copy in pine that is totally transparent to > both the sender and recipient? Ideally, I would only have to set this up once and > all of my outgoing messages would be sent to my other address for storage. No setup required, just sent mail and take a look in your "sent-mail" folder. If you like to archive based on subject, address, or whatever, then select one or more messages from there and save them in a corresponding folder name. --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 00:47:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10768; Tue, 28 Nov 95 00:47:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23646; Tue, 28 Nov 95 00:41:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23640; Tue, 28 Nov 95 00:41:23 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA07664 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:41:19 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:02:31 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Signature at bottom" not for forwarding In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > I was complaining about the "Signature at bottom" option not seeming to > work. it seems that it does work, for REPLY. When I forward a message > it puts the signature at the top. Anyone else think this is a bug? Or > at least not ideal? Does this happen for others? Here Pine has the same whatever_we_agree_to_call_it behaviour. I am used to it, because if I forward messages, i want the reader to start with my introduction and then proceeds reading. Ofcourse, you can temporarily save the message, and include it as an attachement when you send to your other party. --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 01:07:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11218; Tue, 28 Nov 95 01:07:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23977; Tue, 28 Nov 95 01:00:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23971; Tue, 28 Nov 95 01:00:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKLqL-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 00:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ekledzik@iu.net Subject: Re: Compiling PINE under SCO/UNIX 3.2.4 Date: 27 Nov 1995 17:11:21 GMT Message-Id: <49crfp$r84@cc.iu.net> References: <499npo$3en@ram2.ramlink.net> In article <499npo$3en@ram2.ramlink.net>, keithc@ramlink.net (Keith A. Clay) says: > >Has anyone compiled pine under sco 3.2.4. I am having great problems >with this. It seems to be almost a catch-22. If I compile with >-posix, it fixes some things and breaks others. If compile with -ansi >also, fixes some, breaks some. The major errors have to do with >including syslog.h and the definitions of ushort and caddr_t (which are >defined until you choose posix compliance. Thanks! > >keith a. clay >keithc@ramlink.net > Keith, We've compiled Pine 3.91 on SCOv.3.2. I can't remember the exact commands we used until I make some confirmations at work tomorrow. I believe it was systype "-ANSI" and os was = to sco. I would try a 'build -n sco | more' and read the output. (You may have already done this if so excuse the redundacy). I'll try to get you more detailed info tomorrow Eric Kledzik Brevard County Library System Computer Services ekledzik@brev.lib.fl.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 04:41:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14951; Tue, 28 Nov 95 04:41:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27243; Tue, 28 Nov 95 04:31:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27237; Tue, 28 Nov 95 04:31:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKP9t-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 04:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward Dunagin Subject: threads Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:26:18 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII does pine have threading options? Peace.................................ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 07:20:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17967; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:20:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29138; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:06:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29132; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:06:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKRYy-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Aliases in Pine Date: 28 Nov 1995 13:33:57 GMT Message-Id: <49f345$fpe@fu-berlin.de> References: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de writes: >is there a maximum number of recipients that I can add to a list? >I created a list with about 100 recipients and some didn't receive the mails. I suppose Pine uses a string of a fixed size for an expanded alias. Thus it certainly is limited. ELM's limit is 5120 characters, btw. I suggest you split up your group alias and send out the mail to the subgroups. Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 07:33:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18373; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:33:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29582; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:16:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29576; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:16:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKRke-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Enriquez Subject: ? Pine W/ the 200LX Date: 28 Nov 1995 03:03:18 GMT Message-Id: <49du5m$gp@usenet1.interramp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to use PC-Pine on a HP 200LX. I seem to be having trouble with the PC/TCP part of it. Thanks in advance.. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 07:53:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18839; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:53:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29797; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:42:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29791; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:42:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKS5P-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eliber1@umbc.edu (Elina L. Liberman) Subject: Can anyone tell me Date: 27 Nov 1995 22:01:20 GMT Message-Id: <49dcfg$73f@news.umbc.edu> Can anyone tell me how to configure PINE as an editor program for the newsgroop messeges (like for use with tin) thanks Elina Liberman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 08:55:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21547; Tue, 28 Nov 95 08:55:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01702; Tue, 28 Nov 95 08:45:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from merlin.nando.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01696; Tue, 28 Nov 95 08:45:28 -0800 Received: from nando.net.nando.net (parsifal.nando.net) by merlin.nando.net (4.1/davel-nando/dec93) id AA17820; Tue, 28 Nov 95 11:45:11 EST Received: from ital.nando.net (vyger214.nando.net) by nando.net.nando.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB04226; Tue, 28 Nov 95 11:45:51 EST Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:48:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jesse Aaron Safir To: Pine-Info List Subject: pcpine folder collections... X-Sender: jasafir@parsifal.nando.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey! I access mail folder collections on several different systems through pcpine for Windows such that my setup/config screen looks similar to this: folder-collections = host1mail {host1.somewhere.net}host1mail/[] host2mail {host2.somewhere.net}host2mail/[] oldmail {host1.somewhere.net}oldmail/[] homemail c:/ppp16/pcpine/jasafir/oldmail/[] I have been unable to get pine to read folder collections on my pc's VFAT partition (local Drive C)....such as the last line. I have tried different syntax, forward slashes, double slashes, backslashes, quotes, relative paths, etc...but can't get pcpine to recognize the local folder collections. What is the correct syntax for that? Also, Is it possible to use the .addressbook stored on the imap host? I have tried: address-book = {host1.somewhere.net}.addressbook ...and several variations on that theme, but have been unable to get it to use that addressbook. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Either THIS, or something grander and greater in Thy sight, oh Lord *** ***** Jesse Aaron Safir, UNC--Chapel Hill, I speak for myself ONLY! ***** ******* http://www.unc.edu/~jasafir ==> last updated 9-3-95 ******* ********** ====> jasafir@email.unc.edu, (919) 914-1313 (h) <==== ********** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 09:04:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22315; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:04:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01957; Tue, 28 Nov 95 08:54:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from merlin.nando.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01951; Tue, 28 Nov 95 08:54:19 -0800 Received: from nando.net.nando.net (parsifal.nando.net) by merlin.nando.net (4.1/davel-nando/dec93) id AA19695; Tue, 28 Nov 95 11:53:56 EST Received: from ital.nando.net (vyger214.nando.net) by nando.net.nando.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05275; Tue, 28 Nov 95 11:54:43 EST Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:57:05 -0800 (PST) From: Jesse Aaron Safir To: Pine-Info List Subject: multiple users on pcpine in Windows '95? X-Sender: jasafir@parsifal.nando.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey! I have tried to no avail to get pcpine to use PINERC and SIG files from any directory other than the one containing the pine.exe file. I have set "use current directory" and put pine.exe in my MS-DOS PATH. I have also tried different "shortcut" configurations. The only way I can get pcpine to support multiple users' configurations has been to put a separate copy of pine.exe in each user's directory (e.g. c:\ppp16\pcpine\jasafir\pine.exe) which is s tremendous waste of space. I tried putting a lnk file called pine.exe in the users' directories, but that still doesn't work. I don't think the VFAT file system has true unix-style symbolic links. Is there any known work-around for this? Thanks... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Either THIS, or something grander and greater in Thy sight, oh Lord *** ***** Jesse Aaron Safir, UNC--Chapel Hill, I speak for myself ONLY! ***** ******* http://www.unc.edu/~jasafir ==> last updated 9-3-95 ******* ********** ====> jasafir@email.unc.edu, (919) 914-1313 (h) <==== ********** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 10:03:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25359; Tue, 28 Nov 95 10:03:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03794; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:51:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03788; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:51:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKU9e-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: 'ksh: pico: cannot execute' Date: 28 Nov 1995 16:17:32 GMT Message-Id: <49fcms$jov@fu-berlin.de> References: <48vu4r$pj2@handy.gr.com> g04srbro@handy.gr.com (Stephen R Brothers) writes: >'ksh: pico: cannot execute' is the message that I get when I [...] run pico. >I am on an HP-UX machine and that is the version of the binary that I am >running. I expect that pine will do the same. Anyone had a similar problem? Yes, only last night I used your account and I experienced the same problem. I think the sys admin screw up. So why don't you ask HIM?! Or ask him about his password and we'll deletefix it for you. HTH. HAND. Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 10:17:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26095; Tue, 28 Nov 95 10:17:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03566; Tue, 28 Nov 95 10:01:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03558; Tue, 28 Nov 95 10:01:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKUIO-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: "Signature at bottom" not for forwarding Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:28:25 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > I was complaining about the "Signature at bottom" option not seeming to > work. it seems that it does work, for REPLY. When I forward a message > it puts the signature at the top. Anyone else think this is a bug? Or > at least not ideal? Does this happen for others? As for the behavior of 'forward', I think this is the way Pine was designed, i.e., you can type in some prefatory material ahead of your signature, with the actual forwarded matter following. I prefer it this way. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 11:21:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29168; Tue, 28 Nov 95 11:21:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06228; Tue, 28 Nov 95 11:13:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06222; Tue, 28 Nov 95 11:13:15 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA19175 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:13:11 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:11:09 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: Pine-Info List Subject: Re: pcpine folder collections... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Jesse Aaron Safir wrote: > I access mail folder collections on several different systems through > pcpine for Windows such that my setup/config screen looks similar to this: > > folder-collections = host1mail {host1.somewhere.net}host1mail/[] > host2mail {host2.somewhere.net}host2mail/[] > oldmail {host1.somewhere.net}oldmail/[] > homemail c:/ppp16/pcpine/jasafir/oldmail/[] > > I have been unable to get pine to read folder collections on my pc's VFAT > partition (local Drive C)....such as the last line. I have tried different > syntax, forward slashes, double slashes, backslashes, quotes, relative paths, > etc...but can't get pcpine to recognize the local folder collections. What > is the correct syntax for that? I am afraid that access of a local folder is not possible. At my site and at several sites we work with, we use the UUPC package of Kendra. This is a UUCP implementation for the PC that includes a MUA (mail user agent AKA MAIL.EXE). This works OK as we can read and write mail offline, but when you once used PINE,... you want it for its user interface. PC-PINE expects that your INBOX is on a mailserver with the IMAP daemon running, and the configuration should be: inbox-path={host.domain}inbox. For this reason it is not possible to use a local INBOX. I tried the same as you described, tried to bake a new binary (difficult for someone who knows his limitations are endless because of Unix whilest fighting MSDOS) without succes. Even posted SEVERAL TIMES on this list,... but no one had the guts to give me a response. Some told me about the same needs they had, and asked for information if I found the clue, some names I remember: Charly Brady - Telstra Shannon Adams Jordan D. Luttrell I even sent this request to "pine@cac.washington.edu" ... a robot answered that I should not expect an answer ... pfffft ... promise kept ! If anyone on this list knows how to use PC-PINE with a local INBOX, so it can be used with an other transport than IMAP, please wooden shoe help !? Thanks ! --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 12:01:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01645; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:01:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06946; Tue, 28 Nov 95 11:55:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cornell.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06940; Tue, 28 Nov 95 11:55:41 -0800 Received: from raj3.tn.cornell.edu (RAJ3.TN.CORNELL.EDU [128.84.249.74]) by cornell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA08315 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:55:39 -0500 Received: by raj3.tn.cornell.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA05894; Tue, 28 Nov 95 14:58:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:58:57 -0500 (EST) From: Anil Pannikkat Reply-To: akp2@cornell.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do you authorise posting to a newsgroup using Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi I am the su on my local system. I recently set up Pine on my machine (A DEC -station running ULTRIX 4.0). And I also have a newsserver listed in the conf. file. I can read all the newsgroups fine, but I am unable to post to a newsgroup. When I try to post, I get a message saying Error.. 480 Authentication required... What do I need to change or check so that I can post? Any info would be welcome. Thanks Take Care Anil ____________________________________________________________________________ | ANIL PANNIKKAT (akp2@cornell.edu) 607-255-4994 (O)| |Dept. of Materials Sci. & Engg; WWW Home Page 607-275-9940 (H)| |Cornell Univ; Ithaca, NY 14853 http://www.chialpha.org/~akpannik | |____________________________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 12:52:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04317; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:52:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08887; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:35:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08865; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:35:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKWgR-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: MAC-BINHEX 4.0 Date: 28 Nov 1995 16:29:17 GMT Message-Id: <49fdct$k19@fu-berlin.de> References: <48f5rv$h90@alpha.gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> barnes@hydra.gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com (Simon Barnes) writes: >One hopes that BinHex and uuencode will gradually die out in favour of >base64 or 8-bit binary. You would not want 8bit everywhere. After all, how would you display it on screen? If all characters are allowed then how would you recognize an end-of-line? And why is base64 better than uucode? Please tell us! All it needs is a better integration of codes into programs. Make that "easier for persons without a clue". Sven -- "Is there a command which produces a thesis for me? I have read the manual and the faq, but ..." - First Time TeX user on Usenet -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 14:23:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09018; Tue, 28 Nov 95 14:23:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11311; Tue, 28 Nov 95 14:14:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11305; Tue, 28 Nov 95 14:14:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKYE2-00038IC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 14:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maddison@connexus.apana.org.au (David S. Maddison) Subject: Can I sort mail file by date and ***SAVE*** it? Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:21:24 GMT Message-Id: <49enb4$pjg@preeda.internex.net.au> I want to sort my mail file by date and then save the sorted file. Normally you can sort a mail file by varuious criteria such as date, but the changes do not get saved. I want these changes saved so I can then have a file copy of my mail, sorted by date order. Any ideas? David Maddison From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 16:29:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14449; Tue, 28 Nov 95 16:29:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15449; Tue, 28 Nov 95 16:20:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15443; Tue, 28 Nov 95 16:20:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKaBy-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 16:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: UIDL Command Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:42:02 -0800 Message-Id: References: <30B93AB2.2857@mccc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30B93AB2.2857@mccc.edu> On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Pete Holsberg wrote: > Netscape 2.0 beta 3 claims that your POP3 server doesn't support the UIDL > command. Are they correct? Do you have one that does? The most recent version of the IMAP toolkit, imap-4, supports the UIDL command. However, that probably won't help since (unless they fixed it between beta 2 and beta 3) Netscape 2.0 always says that the server doesn't support UIDL whether or not it does. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 17:32:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17675; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:32:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16557; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:25:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16551; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:25:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKbFf-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s2306863@techst02.technion.ac.il (Guy Katz) Subject: import into pine ??? Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:05:13 GMT Message-Id: I would like to know how can i import a text file into pine. I know i can 'attach' it but this is not what i want :) __(__)__ ---oO0-- o o --0Oo--- | | ...Guy Katz :-) \____/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 18:39:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19712; Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:39:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17880; Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:35:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17874; Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:35:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKcLw-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: help Date: 28 Nov 1995 15:52:57 GMT Message-Id: <49fb8p$j2g@fu-berlin.de> References: b4102077@cc.ntu.edu.tw writes: >Please send me an introduction of pine immediately! >I've tried the "faq" but no response! "faq" is no command, it is an electronic paper. It does not talk, either. If you are interested in a list of commands with their descriptions then you should Read The Friendly Manual. Try "man pine" once! You can also mail c4123001@cc.ntu.edu.tw and ask for help about ELM. HTH. Sven [c3141592@cc.ntu.edu.tw] -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 19:04:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20251; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:04:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19045; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:00:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19039; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:00:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKchH-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 18:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: blind carbon copy Date: 28 Nov 95 14:06:11 GMT Message-Id: References: <49ceun$lng@reeve.research.aa.wl.com> adpc01@162.48.130.11 writes: >Is there a way to setup a blind carbon copy in pine that is totally >transparent to both the sender and recipient? >Ideally, I would only have to set this up once and all of my outgoing >messages would be sent to my other address for storage. The "automated Bcc" feature is NOT a desired feature for mail programs as it allows an intruder to add his own address for snooping. Personally, I'd wipe such a mail program from my system. I suggest you stick to the manual way, ie add your address to the Bcc line. That way you might miss sending a mail to your other account, but you definitely do not get a copy of the mails you do NOT want a copy of. ;-) I have several accounts, too, but I forward all mail to the "main" account where I save and answer my mails. It definitely is the easiest way to go. Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 19:04:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20287; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:04:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18362; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:00:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server1.deltanet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18354; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:00:26 -0800 Received: from arc0207.deltanet.com by server1.deltanet.com (5.65/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id AA14022 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:00:23 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 19:00:44 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Shadley To: Pine Mailing List Subject: application/x-pgp-message Message-Id: Organization: very little... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm new here, so if it's old stuff, please bear with me. I received mail with an attachment of type: application/x-pgp-message I tried 'pgp %s', but that just displays pgp asking for the passphrase. Does anyone have a bash or csh shell script or perl script that allows for typing in the passphrase before displaying the output? Thanks in advance, Mark -- Mark Shadley CDSCo Intl., Covina, CA finger shadcat@deltanet.com for my pgp public key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 19:28:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21055; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:28:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18872; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:25:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18866; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:25:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKd7x-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: HELP!!! Date: 28 Nov 1995 15:39:53 GMT Message-Id: <49fag9$io8@fu-berlin.de> References: Corey Henderson writes: >Can someone tell me the name some groups to describe to that will help me >read about rock concerts coming to the Omaha area? How about a sports group? rec.sports.omaha rec.music.rock.omaha Be sure to check out this group, too: location.america.usa.omaha.hometown.street.number.floor Just insert "hometown", "street", "number" and "floor" as appropriate. HTH. Sven [NSA public info staff] -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 19:34:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21309; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:34:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19571; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:30:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19565; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:30:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKd9m-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 19:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Slawomir Tengowski Subject: Redefining Keys? Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:26:03 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I often have the need for putting mails in a certain folder. As you all know thats impossible. I could use the flag command but I dont have an american keyboard, to get the star * is only with shift possible... Is there a simple (or even not simple way) to redefine the buttons for some commands? ______________________________________________________________________________ "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the Universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (c) 'Calvin& Hobbes' by Bill Watterson +++ Slawomir Tengowski +++ Sankt-Johanner-Strasse 72 66115 Saarbruecken Tel.:(0681) 49 84 74 ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 20:31:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22795; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:31:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19918; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:25:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19912; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:25:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKe3x-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Deleting all mails with one command Date: 28 Nov 1995 16:34:41 GMT Message-Id: <49fdn1$k45@fu-berlin.de> References: <48pbct$rsa@misc.twics.com> writes: >Is there a way to delete all messages at one time? rm -rf $MAIL Sven [is that a trick question?] -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 20:55:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23743; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:55:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21086; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:51:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21080; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:51:01 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA14556; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:53:41 +0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:53:40 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: import into pine ??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 707 On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Guy Katz wrote: > I would like to know how can i import a text file into pine. > I know i can 'attach' it but this is not what i want :) Move the text file to your home directory (if it isn't already there), then use Pine's "R" (read) command to read the file into the Compose window. The contewnts of the file will be inserted into your message at the current cursor position. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 21:01:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23983; Tue, 28 Nov 95 21:01:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21144; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:55:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21138; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:55:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKeVF-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: Re: a peculiarity with pine on sunos 4.1.1 Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:38:59 GMT In NAVAL DESHBANDHU writes: >I compiled the entire pine/pico/imapd package on a sunos4.1.1 successfully. >However, with pine, within the index list of any folder, I am unable to >jump to any message item by simply typing the number of the message. My >experience with pine on other platforms is to be able to do this. This is a setting: enable-jump-shortcut of the Feature-List -- Christopher Curtis, Sun SysAdmin - http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/ccurtis Florida Institute of Technology - telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 Melbourne, Florida USA - Member, Team OS/2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 22:00:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25743; Tue, 28 Nov 95 22:00:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22281; Tue, 28 Nov 95 21:56:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bass.com.my by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22265; Tue, 28 Nov 95 21:56:28 -0800 Received: from bass.bass.com.my (gw.bass.com.my) by bass.com.my with SMTP id AA26694 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:57:15 +0800 Received: by bass.bass.com.my (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27874; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:54:27 MYT Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:51:44 +0800 (MYT) From: Jesvinder Singh Subject: Subscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to subscribe to the pine news group.My e-mail address is jesvinder@bass.com.my Thank You. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 22:03:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25922; Tue, 28 Nov 95 22:03:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21729; Tue, 28 Nov 95 21:59:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21721; Tue, 28 Nov 95 21:59:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKfTy-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 21:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Pine beeps too much Date: 28 Nov 1995 17:12:42 GMT Message-Id: <49ffua$l3d@fu-berlin.de> References: <48jqoa$ip3@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu> gostin@blue.crayola.cse.psu.edu (Jeffrey S Gostin) writes: >... everytime you hit a wrong key, or you get new mail, PINE beeps at you. >Normally, I wouldn't care, except, I usually read/send mail late at night, >and my roomate's a light sleeper What I want is a way to tell PINE to "shut up", so it doesn't beep. The beep is a feature. You cannot turn it off. Maybe you should simply take your roommate's advice and TURN THAT DAMN SPEAKER OFF! And if you do too much email at night then GET A LIFE! No, I don't think it'll help. He's using a PC. >PINE 3.90, TCSH 6.00.02, VT102, Ultrix 4.4 PINE 3.91, TCSH 6.06.00, VT320, Linux 1.3pl37 How about upgrading to a real system? Sven -- "Oh, this was a serious question? Gee, I AM sorry!" -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 22:35:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26460; Tue, 28 Nov 95 22:35:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22911; Tue, 28 Nov 95 22:31:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22905; Tue, 28 Nov 95 22:30:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKg1N-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 22:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jyetse@napier.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: import into pine ??? Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 04:35:32 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Guy Katz wrote: > I would like to know how can i import a text file into pine. > I know i can 'attach' it but this is not what i want :) Press ^R when you're composing. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 23:09:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27226; Tue, 28 Nov 95 23:09:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22811; Tue, 28 Nov 95 23:06:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22805; Tue, 28 Nov 95 23:06:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKgY7-00038DC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 23:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Getting into vi from Pine Date: 28 Nov 95 15:22:10 GMT Message-Id: References: <48pfar$pbj@snlsu1> laws@cambridge.scr.slb.com (Robert Laws) writes: >I use Pine from a dial-in e-mail provider. It is running on a UNIX machine. >I'd like to edit my .signature file but I cannot find any way to do this; >when I exit from Pine my dial-in session is terminated. General idea: If you don't have a shell to invoke the editor from then start composing a mail so you'll get into the editor. Almost every editor allows to switch to another file for editing. So simply switch to your signature file, edit, and return to the previous file. Do not mail the temporary file, though. ;-) Then again, if you don't have a shell then you might not even have a home directory and thus no space for personal data, ie no signature file. Btw, you don't need to have one to send mail. It is NOT required. You CAN live without a signature. Trust me! Sven -- Oops. -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 28 23:45:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28331; Tue, 28 Nov 95 23:45:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23946; Tue, 28 Nov 95 23:39:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23940; Tue, 28 Nov 95 23:39:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKh2e-00038CC; Tue, 28 Nov 95 23:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wilfred@HK.LinkAGE.NET (Wilfred Chan) Subject: From line problem Date: 29 Nov 1995 14:21:41 GMT Message-Id: <49hq9l$jpq@news.hk.linkage.net> hi, When I mail to user a@b.com from root locally, the from line reads root@b.com. But if I mail from other user, say x@b.com, the from line reads x but not x@b.com. Anyone knows what's wrong? I really hope all the from lines can be of the form user@FQDN. I'm using PINE3.91 in IRIX5.3 with sendmail running. Thanks, -Wilfred From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 00:59:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00576; Wed, 29 Nov 95 00:59:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25349; Wed, 29 Nov 95 00:55:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25343; Wed, 29 Nov 95 00:55:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKiHR-00038DC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 00:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmd@asimov.oit.umass.edu (Daniel M. Drucker) Subject: change message display speed? Date: 28 Nov 1995 11:58:40 -0500 Message-Id: <49ff40$krf@asimov.oit.umass.edu> Is there a way to change the length of time messages like "Closing folder foo, keeping all 8 messages" stay on the screen? -- [Daniel Drucker / dmd@student.umass.edu] Lady Marian Fitzwalter: Why, you speak treason! Sir Robin of Locksley: Fluently. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 01:00:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00675; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:00:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24702; Wed, 29 Nov 95 00:55:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24694; Wed, 29 Nov 95 00:55:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKiH2-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 00:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: From:/To: line too long Date: 28 Nov 1995 15:15:37 GMT Message-Id: <49f92p$ia5@fu-berlin.de> References: <48vsho$31@swlab1.msd.ray.com> pll@swl.msd.ray.com (Paul Lussier {83553}) writes: >A user recently asked me if there were a way to >supress the From ot To line when mailing to a list. http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.alias.faq.html Sven === In case it is not necessary for everyone in the alias to know the addresses of the other people then you can use the alias in the "Bcc:" line. Then everyone will still get a copy. Note: The "To:" line still needs an address. Use your own address. Example: To: (Me) myaddress Subject: Alias Test Bcc: alias This is just a test to see if you get a copy of this mail. Me [950228] -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 01:10:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00923; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:10:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24951; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:05:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24945; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:05:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKiOC-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@#I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (root) Subject: test Date: 28 Nov 1995 23:06:41 GMT Message-Id: <49g4m1$9in@bbs.highnet2.columbus.oh.us> Sorry, just trying again... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 01:48:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01825; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:48:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26233; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:39:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26221; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:39:48 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:36:36 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA08691; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:38:07 GMT Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:38:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: akp2@cornell.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do you authorise posting to a newsgroup using Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The current version of Pine (3.91) does not support authentication for Usenet News. It may be coming in a future version (I always forget whether this may be 3.92 or "further down the road"). For the moment you will have to try to persuade your News Administrator to remove the need to authenticate before posting, or else switch to using a different program if you want to post news articles. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Anil Pannikkat wrote: > Hi > I am the su on my local system. I recently set up Pine on my > machine (A DEC -station running ULTRIX 4.0). And I also have a > newsserver listed in the conf. file. > I can read all the newsgroups fine, but I am unable to post to > a newsgroup. When I try to post, I get a message saying > Error.. 480 Authentication required... > What do I need to change or check so that I can post? > Any info would be welcome. > Thanks > Take Care Anil > ____________________________________________________________________________ > | ANIL PANNIKKAT (akp2@cornell.edu) 607-255-4994 (O)| > |Dept. of Materials Sci. & Engg; WWW Home Page 607-275-9940 (H)| > |Cornell Univ; Ithaca, NY 14853 http://www.chialpha.org/~akpannik | > |____________________________________________________________________________| > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 01:53:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01976; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:53:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26220; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:39:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26214; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:39:39 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:34:21 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA08456; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:35:56 GMT Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:35:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Guy Katz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: import into pine ??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1. Start composing your message. 2. With the cursor in the "Message Text" area look at menu at bottom of screen. 3. See the "^R Read File" item on the menu. 4. Try using it. 5. Be stunned and amazed. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Guy Katz wrote: > I would like to know how can i import a text file into pine. > I know i can 'attach' it but this is not what i want :) > > > > __(__)__ > ---oO0-- o o --0Oo--- > | | ...Guy Katz :-) > \____/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 02:02:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02268; Wed, 29 Nov 95 02:02:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26330; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:46:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26324; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:46:15 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:42:07 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA09843; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:43:56 GMT Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:43:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "David S. Maddison" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can I sort mail file by date and ***SAVE*** it? In-Reply-To: <49enb4$pjg@preeda.internex.net.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The sequence is a little unexpected and long-winded but does work: 1. Open the folder you want to permanently re-sort. 2. Sort it as you wish (using the "$" command). 3. Select all messages and save them into a new folder[1]: ; A A S newfoldername 4. Go to the Folder List screen ("L") 5. Rename the old folder under a different name ("R" command). 6. Rename the new folder to have the original folder's name ("R" command again). 7. Open and check this folder. 8. If happy, return to Folder List screen ("L") and delete the old version of the folder. Of course, once familiar with the method (and trust it!) you can, if you wish, change step 5 to "Delete the original folder" and omit step 8. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, David S. Maddison wrote: > > > I want to sort my mail file by date and then save the sorted file. > Normally you can sort a mail file by varuious criteria such as date, > but the changes do not get saved. I want these changes saved so I can > then have a file copy of my mail, sorted by date order. > > Any ideas? > > David Maddison > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 02:11:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02507; Wed, 29 Nov 95 02:11:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26609; Wed, 29 Nov 95 02:05:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26603; Wed, 29 Nov 95 02:05:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKjK3-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 02:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: How to specify user-id for imap in-box Date: 29 Nov 95 08:05:48 GMT Message-Id: References: <49fc0d$je6@fu-berlin.de> fdboer@baan.nl (Feico de Boer) writes: >Assumed you are allowed to connect (1) and do know the root passwd (2). >Sure we will have lots of fun looking at the logfiles. $ rm -rf / What logfiles? ;-) >I can already log in to one host but I do need permissions and a password. I assume you do not use Pine to log on to that host, do you? You may not need this for some shell, but Pine may not use the same mechanism. >why can't this scheme be extended to multiple hosts. >Maybe I'm missing something, but it appears to me your sketch is not valid. Why does it appear to you that way? I think you are missing something. "Give me an authentication scheme without passwords and I'll send you a mail - from your own account." Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 03:38:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05368; Wed, 29 Nov 95 03:38:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27290; Wed, 29 Nov 95 03:30:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27284; Wed, 29 Nov 95 03:30:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKkfj-00038DC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 03:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: sending mail to nowhere Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:21:43 GMT Is there a way to send mail to a dummy address that doesn't go anywhere but doesn't get returned? The reason for this is to put a dummy name such as To: distribution , and put the real recipients in Bcc for big lists. Addressing it to myself is the current scheme, but then sometimes people think the mail is not for them. Please email to zach@world.std.com. Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------- | Zach Leber | zach@world.std.com | | RSA | | | 22 Terry Avenue | Tel: 617-238-0600 x1312 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 03:50:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05757; Wed, 29 Nov 95 03:50:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28131; Wed, 29 Nov 95 03:40:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28125; Wed, 29 Nov 95 03:40:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKkrv-00038DC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 03:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Commands/help please! Date: 28 Nov 1995 14:36:23 GMT Message-Id: <49f6p7$hb7@fu-berlin.de> References: Adam Mackowicak writes: >I'm new to Internet and I have some problems recognize commands of pine >system. Can anybody help me, please and answer the following questions? >A) What is the purpose of the "chmod" command? >B) What command is able to find spelling errors in a file? >C) What command compares two sorted files? (A) Changes processor "mod"el to a Pentium. (B) mail bgates@microsoft.com < file (C) rm -rf file1 file2 HTH. GcksSven -- martians landed ... taking over .. they are coming ... send the army! HELP! NO CARRIER -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 04:20:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07103; Wed, 29 Nov 95 04:20:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28053; Wed, 29 Nov 95 04:05:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28047; Wed, 29 Nov 95 04:05:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKlDh-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 04:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: auto-forward mail to multiple users? Message-Id: <49f46j$g89@fu-berlin.de> Date: 28 Nov 95 13:52:19 GMT References: robohen@cs.pitt.edu (Henry Robertson) writes: >I have created a list called "ic" with pine. I would like all mail coming >to my account to be forwarded to the users on ic. Is there a way to do this? $ cat $HOME/.forward address_1, address_2, ... , address_n Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 04:35:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07328; Wed, 29 Nov 95 04:35:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28351; Wed, 29 Nov 95 04:23:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28339; Wed, 29 Nov 95 04:22:48 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA14514 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:19:52 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id PAA07713; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:21:33 +0300 (OET) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:22:12 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow To: Zachary H Leber Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sending mail to nowhere X-Sender: bor@itsmx1.mow.sni.de In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Zachary H Leber wrote: > Is there a way to send mail to a dummy address that doesn't go anywhere > but doesn't get returned? The reason for this is to put a dummy > name such as To: distribution , and put the real recipients > in Bcc for big lists. Addressing it to myself is the current scheme, > but then sometimes people think the mail is not for them. > Just put 'distribution:;' in To: field and recipients in Bcc:, e.g. To: dummy-recipients:; Bcc: real-recipient@user.dom.ain ---------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 06:22:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09400; Wed, 29 Nov 95 06:22:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00496; Wed, 29 Nov 95 06:10:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00490; Wed, 29 Nov 95 06:10:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKn8o-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 06:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kuiken@amc.uva.nl Subject: transporting pine folders Date: Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:50:17 -100 Message-Id: <49hkuc$qg2@amcnix.amc.uva.nl> The machine I currently use pine on, a vms vax, will be euthanized soon, so I have to move to a unix machine. I have ftp-ed all pine- and mail-related files (judging by the names) to the new machine. The default settings etc. have survived, but I cannot find any of my sent-mail and received-mail folders. The sysop says that the only way to transport these is to send all 500-odd messages one by one as email to the new machine :-( This seems a bit primitive for a program like pine. Is this really the only solution, or is there someone out there who has a better idea? Thanks very much in advance. (@< Carla Kuiken (< ) ^^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 07:34:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11188; Wed, 29 Nov 95 07:34:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00907; Wed, 29 Nov 95 07:10:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00901; Wed, 29 Nov 95 07:10:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKo6w-00038HC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 07:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreardon@sound.net (Mike Reardon) Subject: Pine and Data General Aviion Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:17:19 -0600 Message-Id: I am having difficulty compiling Pine to run on a Data General Aviion machine. Anyone else running under DG/UX? Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 07:55:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11761; Wed, 29 Nov 95 07:55:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01864; Wed, 29 Nov 95 07:35:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01858; Wed, 29 Nov 95 07:35:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKoVX-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 07:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.gti.net (++ Pegboy ++) Subject: Re: import into pine ??? Date: 29 Nov 1995 09:32:33 -0500 Message-Id: <49hqu1$nbs@gti.gti.net> References: : > I would like to know how can i import a text file into pine. : > I know i can 'attach' it but this is not what i want :) : Press ^R when you're composing. This will pull the file out of your home directory, but you have to use ^R when you are in the body of your message. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 08:20:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12999; Wed, 29 Nov 95 08:20:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02555; Wed, 29 Nov 95 08:11:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02541; Wed, 29 Nov 95 08:11:44 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA13237 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:09:35 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id TAA13440 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 19:11:22 +0300 (OET) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 19:12:02 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow To: Pine Mailing list Subject: FEATURES requested X-Sender: bor@itsmx1.mow.sni.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, all! As this list grows, I would rather put it as is (sorry if I duplicate anybody - I suppose there is Pine TO-DO list somewhere :-) I list the features first and put the rationale after them for everybody interested. 1. Split user credentials and From: address. That is, add new parameter, e.g. mail-address, which is independent from user/host used for mailbox access. 2. Allow reply ONLY to recipients of the message (much as ELM group reply). 3. Poosibility to (re-)define the command keys - may be generalize to some sort of macros support. 4. Change TAB command (or add new) to be the 'next-new' across folders (instead of 'next-recent'). 5. Real support of multiple incoming folders ( checking for new mail). 6. When saving using Save command look up folder in address book (that is, check if this user has an alias and use corresponding Fcc entry) rather than just save under user name. 7. Sorting rule on per-folder (or at least per collection) basis Rationale (for anybody ineterested :-) 1. The host where my incoming folders are is not actually related to my mail-address. I have always following problem: if I send mail user@host.name is rewrtitten to proper mail address, but if I POST news, doesn't. So news come out with unrepliable address in From: header. I understand, that I can put Reply-To:, but I would prefer having proper From: address. 2. If I reply to message put on mailing list I would like to select between reply to LIST and reply to SUBMITTER. Now I have the only possibility to say 'reply to all', delete submitter, change Fcc: filed - not very handy. 3. It was asked by many people already - I would like to generalize it to macros support. Many tasks can be done without adding new feature/command, just by aggregating existing commands into the macro. 4. Current behavior of TAB command (next-recent) is well suited for scenario when I run Pine, look through mail and quit. I normally start Pine in separate window and it runs all day long - I suppose, some people also do. In this case there is no way to quickly jump to the newly arrived mail. If the checking of all incoming folders will be added (as I hope), it would be espicially useful. 5. It is obvious. 6. The reason is very simple - it seems logical to keep related mail together. If I SEND I get default Fcc as set in addressbook; if I RECEIVE I get default Fcc as user name. I would expect them be identical. 7. May be it is not so important, but sort order often depends on contents. News groups are naturally sorted 'threaded' and normal mail I prefer to have sorted by Date: and also have some other folders with another sortorder. Again, it always possible to hand-sort it, but Pine is sooo user friendly normally ... :-) Thanks to anybody who have got so far :--) ---------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 08:54:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14520; Wed, 29 Nov 95 08:54:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02866; Wed, 29 Nov 95 08:44:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02860; Wed, 29 Nov 95 08:44:27 -0800 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA26312; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:44:09 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:44:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: Mike Reardon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and Data General Aviion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Mike Reardon wrote: > I am having difficulty compiling Pine to run on a Data General Aviion machine. > > Anyone else running under DG/UX? Errors? What are you getting? B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 09:05:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15503; Wed, 29 Nov 95 09:05:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03054; Wed, 29 Nov 95 08:51:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03048; Wed, 29 Nov 95 08:51:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKpfJ-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 08:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eric.kidd@dartmouth.edu (Eric M. Kidd) Subject: Re: cancelling a letter Date: 29 Nov 1995 15:02:10 GMT Message-Id: References: In article , DJ JOE wrote: > Each time i'm using a Mac and compose a letter in PINE i can't get the > control c (^C) command to work. So whenever I have to cancel a letter > I always have a hard time doing so. If i repeatedly execute the command > it ends up ruining my screen and logs me off. > > When i use PC's, however, i don't have this problem. Does anyone know > what i'm doing wrong? Are you using NCSA Telnet? If so, turn off the mapping of ^C, ^S and ^Q to break, pause and resume, respectively. Helps with Emacs, too. =) Cheers, Eric ........................................................................ Eric Kidd (eric.kidd@dartmouth.edu) http://coos.dartmouth.edu/~emk/ "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -Pablo Picasso From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 09:31:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16827; Wed, 29 Nov 95 09:31:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03839; Wed, 29 Nov 95 09:17:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from europe.std.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03833; Wed, 29 Nov 95 09:17:08 -0800 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.6.12/Spike-8-1.0) id MAA10954; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:17:06 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA00135; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:09:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:09:33 -0500 (EST) From: Zachary H Leber To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sending mail to nowhere In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII That seems to work great. Thank you very much. Do I have to use distribution:; or just anything ending in :;? Zach On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Zachary H Leber wrote: > > > Is there a way to send mail to a dummy address that doesn't go anywhere > > but doesn't get returned? The reason for this is to put a dummy > > name such as To: distribution , and put the real recipients > > in Bcc for big lists. Addressing it to myself is the current scheme, > > but then sometimes people think the mail is not for them. > > > > Just put 'distribution:;' in To: field and recipients in Bcc:, e.g. > > To: dummy-recipients:; > Bcc: real-recipient@user.dom.ain > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de > SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 > ---------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------- | Zach Leber | zach@world.std.com | | RSA | | | 22 Terry Avenue | Tel: 617-238-0600 x1312 | | Burlington, MA 01803 | Fax: 617-238-0606 | ----------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 10:45:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20897; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:45:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06185; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:36:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06179; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:36:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKrLt-00038HC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: masi Subject: MAC BINHEX 40 Date: 29 Nov 1995 18:28:31 GMT Message-Id: <49i8of$rko@maureen.teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We use pine 3.91 Unix, and sometimes we receive attachments encoded with MAS-BINHEX 40. Is there any way to read or un-encode these on Unix? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 10:46:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20991; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:46:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06716; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:36:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06708; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:36:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKrLE-00038DC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Viewing messages Date: 28 Nov 95 20:23:53 GMT Message-Id: References: <48mbpe$edg@clarknet.clark.net> ets@clark.net (Evan Sage) writes: >When a message is viewed, it scrolls one screen's worth at a time. >Is there any way to make the scroll continuous (for purposes of direct >capture by Procomm, for example)? >I was thinking in terms of a print command of some kind - the Y option >with the right setup. Maybe option 3 under print setup with the correct >unix command. I have no printer attached, but can the output be sent to >the screen in some way? What's wrong with saving the mail to a file and transferring the file? Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 10:46:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21036; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:46:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06884; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:41:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06878; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:41:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKrPM-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: How to specify user-id for imap in-box Date: 28 Nov 1995 16:05:33 GMT Message-Id: <49fc0d$je6@fu-berlin.de> References: fdboer@baan.nl (Feico de Boer) writes: >Is the following possible in pine: >Specify multiple imap in-boxes with different user-id's. [...] >incoming-folders=INCOMING inbox, > INCOMING some_user {some_user@some.host.domain}inbox, > INCOMING other_user {other_user@some.host.domain}inbox No. Here's the sketch of a proof: Assume it was posssible. You start PINE with user id "uid1" on inbox "inbox1". Now you switch to inbox2 which belongs to uid2. PINE now must be able to update "inbox2" How should PINE get permissions of uid2? Now, if PINE was able to change it's permissions simply by an entry in the setup file then I'd define this: INCOMING xxx {root@your.host.domain}inbox I'm sure I'd have lots of fun. :-) But we don't want any fun on the Internet, now, would we? Internet means serious business. That's why PINE probably doesn't have that feature. QED. Sven -- sveng@proof.math.internet.edu -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 10:59:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21782; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:59:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07214; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:51:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from merlin.nando.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07208; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:51:51 -0800 Received: from parsifal.nando.net by merlin.nando.net (4.1/davel-nando/dec93) id AA19146; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:51:20 EST Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:52:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jesse Aaron Safir To: Sven Guckes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Deleting all mails with one command In-Reply-To: <49fdn1$k45@fu-berlin.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > writes: > >Is there a way to delete all messages at one time? > > rm -rf $MAIL Or, if you only want to delete all messages in the current folder, enable the aggregate command set and hit ";", then "a". All messages in the current folder should be selected, so hit "a" then "d" and "x" and they're gone... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Either THIS, or something grander and greater in Thy sight, oh Lord *** ***** Jesse Aaron Safir, UNC--Chapel Hill, I speak for myself ONLY! ***** ******* http://www.unc.edu/~jasafir ==> last updated 9-3-95 ******* ********** ====> jasafir@email.unc.edu, (919) 914-1313 (h) <==== ********** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 10:59:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21786; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:59:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06755; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:49:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06749; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:49:47 -0800 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA39856 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:43:04 -0600 Received: by Cookie.secapl.com id AA151139 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:51:06 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:51:05 -0600 (CST) From: Carla Golden To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Carla Golden wrote: > How can I view the APPLEFILE? How can you print the below files? > > > [Part 2.1, Application/APPLEFILE 588bytes] > [Can not display this part. Use the "V" command to save in a file] > > > [Part 2.2, Image/GIF 35KB] > [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 11:12:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22521; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:12:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07537; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:02:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from arl-img-6.compuserve.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07531; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:02:09 -0800 Received: by arl-img-6.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id OAA21888; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:02:08 -0500 Date: 29 Nov 95 14:00:56 EST From: John Jastrow <70423.2707@compuserve.com> To: PineMail support Subject: we need pinemail Message-Id: <951129190055_70423.2707_JHD156-2@CompuServe.COM> Would you please forward me any information on PineMail? We'd like to run in on a SUN with Solaris 2.4 (2.5 soon) as soon as possible. How do I get the binaries? Do I need to compile myself? Do you support this product at the U. of Wash.? If so, how? In terms of bug fixes, updates, etc. Is there a charge for any services you offer? Could you send me the application on 4mm tape to below: Thanks! ** John Jastrow (615-251-5957) (FAX-5900) ** EDS 70423.2707@compuserve.com ** c/o Baptist Sunday School Board, MSN 130 ** 127 9th Ave. North, Nashville, TN 37234 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 11:27:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23319; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:27:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07549; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:16:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07542; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:16:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKrvN-00038HC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sales@sv.net.au (Starvision Sales Team) Message-Id: Control: cancel <49gg7h$44t@sydney1.world.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <49gg7h$44t@sydney1.world.net> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 03:41:19 KST Spam, local newbie mistake, or other rubbish removed by jem@pal.postech.ac.kr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 11:32:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23583; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:32:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07793; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:22:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07787; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:22:39 -0800 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA14450; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:22:10 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:22:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: Mike Reardon Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Pine and Data General Aviion In-Reply-To: <199511291920.NAA21201@sound.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Mike Reardon wrote: > >> I am having difficulty compiling Pine to run on a Data General Aviion > machine. > >> > >> Anyone else running under DG/UX? > > > >Errors? What are you getting? > > > >B. > > I have finally gotten it compiled, and it runs fine except for one problem. > Whenever I try to reply to a message, pine does a core dump and crashes. I > can read mail, compose and send mail, and forward, but not reply. > > I'm sure that it's something simple that I've overlooked, but I can't figure > it out... Someone else was having the same problem at one point....They fixed it. Not sure how..... Anyone? B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 12:05:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25392; Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:05:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09227; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:57:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09220; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:57:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKsYB-00038DC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: blind carbon copy Message-Id: <17465FA21S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <49ceun$lng@reeve.research.aa.wl.com> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:47:12 GMT In article <49ceun$lng@reeve.research.aa.wl.com> adpc01@162.48.130.11 writes: >Is there a way to setup a blind carbon copy in pine that is totally transparent to >both the sender and recipient? Ideally, I would only have to set this up once and >all of my outgoing messages would be sent to my other address for storage. I have it turned on permanently, on one of my accounts. In the Setup/Configure panel, add a Customized-hdr of Bcc: foo@bar.baz whatever you need. I don't recall having to turn anything on in the feature-list for this: I have enable-full-header-command turned on, but I don't think that is necessary for your purpose. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 12:06:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25616; Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:06:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08777; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:57:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08771; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:57:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKsYC-00038HC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jcygan@gateway.wiltel.com (Joe Cygan) Subject: Re: Pine and Data General Aviion Date: 29 Nov 1995 17:05:49 GMT Message-Id: <49i3td$co6@gateway.wiltel.com> References: Mike Reardon (mreardon@sound.net) wrote: : I am having difficulty compiling Pine to run on a Data General Aviion machine. : Anyone else running under DG/UX? : Mike Yes. I puchased the other machine they sold last year. And, no, I cannot get it to compile either. You havig the problem with c-client as well? On mine I'm trying pine3.91 and "build d-g" seems to work fine on pico and most of the source. But, with c-client it gets stuck on os_d-g.c with the "times" definition. Then ... BOOM> If you can find anything, please let me know. There was some traffic on this subject about a year ago in comp.sys.m88k. Joe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 12:29:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26708; Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:29:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10044; Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:21:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10038; Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:21:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKswL-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu Subject: printing Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:37:42 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Does anyone know how to print something out of e-mail to my local printer rather then to the schools computer? Thanks, Jill jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 13:49:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00972; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:49:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12107; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:41:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12101; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:41:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKuEO-00038DC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreardon@sound.net (Mike Reardon) Subject: Re: Pine and Data General Aviion Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:02:13 -0600 Message-Id: References: <49i3td$co6@gateway.wiltel.com> In article <49i3td$co6@gateway.wiltel.com>, Joe.Cygan@wcom.com wrote: > Yes. I puchased the other machine they sold last year. And, no, I cannot get > it to compile either. You havig the problem with c-client as well? On mine > I'm trying pine3.91 and "build d-g" seems to work fine on pico and most of > the source. But, with c-client it gets stuck on os_d-g.c with the "times" > definition. Then ... BOOM> > > If you can find anything, please let me know. There was some traffic on this > subject about a year ago in comp.sys.m88k. The following was sent to me by eross@cccc.cc.colorado.edu: add a line to c-client/os_d-g.c: #include "log_std.c" #include "gr_waitp.c" #include "tz_sv4.c" + #include #undef utime This worked here this morning... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 14:09:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02133; Wed, 29 Nov 95 14:09:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13073; Wed, 29 Nov 95 14:01:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13067; Wed, 29 Nov 95 14:01:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKuWL-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nsamuels@mcs.com (Nicholas Samuels) Subject: UUEncode Date: 29 Nov 1995 18:12:50 GMT Message-Id: I've received an attachment encoded with UUEncode. Is there any way I can view this with PINE? If not, how can I decode it? And, if MIME is the standard, why is anyone using UUEncode? The message was sent from s system using MCIMail, which apparently, uses UUEncode automatically. Thanks for whatever help anyone can offer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 14:47:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04598; Wed, 29 Nov 95 14:47:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13626; Wed, 29 Nov 95 14:40:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13620; Wed, 29 Nov 95 14:40:50 -0800 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA00497; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:40:06 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:40:05 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: Mike Reardon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and Data General Aviion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Mike Reardon wrote: > The following was sent to me by eross@cccc.cc.colorado.edu: > > add a line to c-client/os_d-g.c: > > #include "log_std.c" > #include "gr_waitp.c" > #include "tz_sv4.c" > + #include > > #undef utime Try putting the at the TOP of the file...before other includes. Then I don't think you need the undef. Then things should work...Replies et al, from what I recall. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 14:51:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04941; Wed, 29 Nov 95 14:51:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13715; Wed, 29 Nov 95 14:44:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13709; Wed, 29 Nov 95 14:44:46 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tKuKI-000sEPC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 23:46 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 29 Nov 95 23:41 MEZ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:43:54 +0100 (MET) From: Michael.Joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Nicholas Samuels Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UUEncode In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is no builtin uudecode in PINE. And there is no ONE standard. Check with archie for a prog called uudeview, that is a nice useful decoder not only for uuencoded files. uuencode was (and perhaps still is) one of the standards on most systems. Most postings in newsgroups are still uuencoded. Perhaps you have uudecode on your system? try to export the mail and run uudecode on that file if you get uudecode: not found than get uudeview. Ciao, Michael On 29 Nov 1995, Nicholas Samuels wrote: > I've received an attachment encoded with UUEncode. > > Is there any way I can view this with PINE? > > If not, how can I decode it? > > And, if MIME is the standard, why is anyone using UUEncode? The message > was sent from s system using MCIMail, which apparently, uses UUEncode > automatically. > > Thanks for whatever help anyone can offer. > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE I believe I found the missing link between animal and civilized man. It is us. (Konrad Lorenz) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 16:32:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10262; Wed, 29 Nov 95 16:32:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16795; Wed, 29 Nov 95 16:27:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16789; Wed, 29 Nov 95 16:26:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKwmg-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 16:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: pcpine folder collections... Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:46:08 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: There is no reason why you can not set your inbox-path to point to a local folder on PC-Pine. I just tried it, and it works fine. PC-Pine will, however, require that there be an active TCP stack. What may be tripping you up is if your local file folders are not in one of the formats supported by PC-Pine. PC Pine supports mtx (its native format) and tenex (same as on Unix, mtx with LF newlines) readwrite, and Unix mbox files readonly. So, for it to be reasonable to have your INBOX be on the PC filesystem, you need a mail delivery agent that will write in MTX format. It also helps if the extension on the files is ".MTX" (but you can get rid of that on the setup screen). On 28 Nov 1995, Nico van der Horn wrote: > On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Jesse Aaron Safir wrote: > > > I access mail folder collections on several different systems through > > pcpine for Windows such that my setup/config screen looks similar to this: > > > > folder-collections = host1mail {host1.somewhere.net}host1mail/[] > > host2mail {host2.somewhere.net}host2mail/[] > > oldmail {host1.somewhere.net}oldmail/[] > > homemail c:/ppp16/pcpine/jasafir/oldmail/[] > > > > I have been unable to get pine to read folder collections on my pc's VFAT > > partition (local Drive C)....such as the last line. I have tried different > > syntax, forward slashes, double slashes, backslashes, quotes, relative paths, > > etc...but can't get pcpine to recognize the local folder collections. What > > is the correct syntax for that? > > I am afraid that access of a local folder is not possible. At my site and > at several sites we work with, we use the UUPC package of Kendra. This is > a UUCP implementation for the PC that includes a MUA (mail user agent AKA > MAIL.EXE). This works OK as we can read and write mail offline, but when > you once used PINE,... you want it for its user interface. > > PC-PINE expects that your INBOX is on a mailserver with the IMAP daemon > running, and the configuration should be: inbox-path={host.domain}inbox. > > For this reason it is not possible to use a local INBOX. I tried the same > as you described, tried to bake a new binary (difficult for someone who > knows his limitations are endless because of Unix whilest fighting MSDOS) > without succes. Even posted SEVERAL TIMES on this list,... but no one had > the guts to give me a response. Some told me about the same needs they > had, and asked for information if I found the clue, some names I remember: > > Charly Brady - Telstra > Shannon Adams > Jordan D. Luttrell > > I even sent this request to "pine@cac.washington.edu" ... a robot answered > that I should not expect an answer ... pfffft ... promise kept ! > > If anyone on this list knows how to use PC-PINE with a local INBOX, so it > can be used with an other transport than IMAP, please wooden shoe help !? > > Thanks ! > > --- > nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, > 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 16:58:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11353; Wed, 29 Nov 95 16:58:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18182; Wed, 29 Nov 95 16:47:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18176; Wed, 29 Nov 95 16:47:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKx6Q-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 16:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chela Kunasz Subject: duplicate addresses appearing in .addressbook Date: 29 Nov 1995 23:22:43 GMT Message-Id: <49iq03$rvr@lace.colorado.edu> One of our users is seeing duplicate entries of SOME (most) but not all of his entries in .addressbook. He is the only user who has experienced this happening to his .addressbook file. He is also the only user who has configured pine so that his .addressbook file is in a subdirectory of his home directory, a directory he has called "mail". Has anyone seen this phenomenon before? We are running pine 3.91 on a DECstation 5000/240 with the Ultrix 4.3 operating system. Any suggestions or pointers as to how this could happen are welcome! Thanks for any info. Chela Kunasz JILA, University of Colorado Boulder, CO 80303 chela@jila.colorado.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 17:50:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13939; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:50:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19204; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:46:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19198; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:46:04 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA13196 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 02:46:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 02:43:26 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: Feico de Boer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to specify user-id for imap in-box In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Feico de Boer wrote: > Hello world, > > Is the following possible in pine: > > Specify multiple imap in-boxes with different user-id's. > > I couldn't find something like that in either documentation or source code. > The feature would be welcome to me since I would like to check mail from > different users (admin stuff etc.) but log-on from one pine. > > How about specifying POP and IMAP folders like below: > > incoming-folders=INCOMING inbox, > INCOMING some_user {some_user@some.host.domain}inbox, > INCOMING other_user {other_user@some.host.domain}inbox > > Greetings, > > -- > Feico de Boer Baan Europe B.V. > Porting Engineer Porting and Benchmarking Center > Baron van Nagellstraat 89 > Email: fdboer@baan.nl P.O. Box 143 > Phone: +31-3420-28888 3770 AC BARNEVELD > Fax : +31-3420-28606 The Netherlands > > [my employer only sponsors the bandwidth, not my opinions] Did you think about aliasing those users to your own account ? --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 17:52:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14019; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:52:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19260; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:47:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19254; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:47:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKy1v-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jcygan@gateway.wiltel.com (Joe Cygan) Subject: Help compiling 3.91 ERROR Date: 29 Nov 1995 19:46:35 GMT Message-Id: <49idar$dh4@gateway.wiltel.com> -------------------------------------- Here's a copy of the compiler output: -------------------------------------- make args are "CC=gcc" Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=d-g echo d-g > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s ANSI systype cd ANSI/c-client; make d-g make mtest OS=d-g EXTRADRIVERS="" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ RSH=restsh RSHPATH=/usr/bin/restsh \ CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= " RANLIB=true ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo d-g > OSTYPE echo -g -Dconst= > CFLAGS echo > LDFLAGS ln -s os_d-g.h osdep.h gcc -g -Dconst= -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto \ -DRSH=\"restsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bin/restsh\" \ -c os_d-g.c In file included from osdep.h:43, from os_d-g.c:38: /usr/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/include/string.h:45: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' In file included from /usr/include/string.h:108, from osdep.h:43, from os_d-g.c:38: /usr/include/memory.h:36: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /usr/include/memory.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' os_d-g.c: In function `portable_utime': os_d-g.c:78: storage size of `times' isn't known *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Making Pico Making Pine. Make: Don't know how to make ../c-client/c-client.a. Stop. Links to executables are in bin directory: bin/pine: cannot open size: bin/pine: cannot open size: bin/mtest: cannot open size: bin/imapd: cannot open bin/pico: 126712 + 25708 + 7140 = 159560 Done From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 18:09:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14517; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:09:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20282; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:01:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from merlin.nando.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20262; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:01:43 -0800 Received: from parsifal.nando.net by merlin.nando.net (4.1/davel-nando/dec93) id AA05871; Wed, 29 Nov 95 21:01:03 EST Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:01:51 -0500 (EST) From: Jesse Aaron Safir To: Sven Guckes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to specify user-id for imap in-box In-Reply-To: <49fc0d$je6@fu-berlin.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >Specify multiple imap in-boxes with different user-id's. [...] solution: try to use the same userid across all your accounts :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Either THIS, or something grander and greater in Thy sight, oh Lord *** ***** Jesse Aaron Safir, UNC--Chapel Hill, I speak for myself ONLY! ***** ******* http://www.unc.edu/~jasafir ==> last updated 9-3-95 ******* ********** ====> jasafir@email.unc.edu, (919) 914-1313 (h) <==== ********** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 18:14:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14624; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:14:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20495; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:10:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from merlin.nando.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20489; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:10:21 -0800 Received: from parsifal.nando.net by merlin.nando.net (4.1/davel-nando/dec93) id AA08111; Wed, 29 Nov 95 21:10:03 EST Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:10:52 -0500 (EST) From: Jesse Aaron Safir To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pcpine folder collections... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mark, > There is no reason why you can not set your inbox-path to point to a local > folder on PC-Pine. I just tried it, and it works fine. could you please provide the format that should appear in my PINERC file? As I indicated in my previous post, I have tried several different syntaxes in Setup/Config. Thanks... > What may be tripping you up is if your local file folders are not in one > of the formats supported by PC-Pine. the files are in the format pine left them in on one of my unix accounts...which should be standard BSD mail format. > > > I access mail folder collections on several different systems through > > > pcpine for Windows such that my setup/config screen looks similar to this: > > > > > > folder-collections = host1mail {host1.somewhere.net}host1mail/[] > > > host2mail {host2.somewhere.net}host2mail/[] > > > oldmail {host1.somewhere.net}oldmail/[] > > > homemail c:/ppp16/pcpine/jasafir/oldmail/[] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Either THIS, or something grander and greater in Thy sight, oh Lord *** ***** Jesse Aaron Safir, UNC--Chapel Hill, I speak for myself ONLY! ***** ******* http://www.unc.edu/~jasafir ==> last updated 9-3-95 ******* ********** ====> jasafir@email.unc.edu, (919) 914-1313 (h) <==== ********** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 18:22:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15014; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:22:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20641; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:17:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20635; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:17:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKyXU-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreardon@sound.net (Mike Reardon) Subject: Re: Pine and Data General Aviion Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:56:14 -0600 Message-Id: References: In article , brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca ("Brian P. Hampson") wrote: > On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Mike Reardon wrote: > > > I am having difficulty compiling Pine to run on a Data General Aviion machine. > > > > Anyone else running under DG/UX? > > Errors? What are you getting? I am able to compose and send mail, read mail, forward mail, but NOT reply to mail. I get a core dump and Pine croaks at that point. Forwarding works fine, but not replying. Anyone have any ideas? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 18:22:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15041; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:22:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19845; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:17:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19839; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:17:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKyXV-00038DC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreardon@sound.net (Mike Reardon) Subject: Re: Pine and Data General Aviion Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:57:23 -0600 Message-Id: References: In article , brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca ("Brian P. Hampson") wrote: > On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Mike Reardon wrote: > > > I am having difficulty compiling Pine to run on a Data General Aviion machine. > > > > Anyone else running under DG/UX? > > Errors? What are you getting? I am able to compose and send mail, read mail, forward mail, but NOT reply to mail. I get a core dump and Pine croaks at that point. Forwarding works fine, but not replying. Anyone have any ideas? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 18:33:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15505; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:33:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20840; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:27:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20834; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:27:06 -0800 Received: from localhost by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67f2/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA23774; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:27:00 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:25:48 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: pcpine folder collections... To: Jesse Aaron Safir Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:10:52 -0500 (EST), Jesse Aaron Safir wrote: > > There is no reason why you can not set your inbox-path to point to a local > > folder on PC-Pine. I just tried it, and it works fine. > could you please provide the format that should appear in my PINERC > file? As I indicated in my previous post, I have tried several different > syntaxes in Setup/Config. Thanks... A folder collection of the form C:\foo\bar\[] will work fine. > > What may be tripping you up is if your local file folders are not in one > > of the formats supported by PC-Pine. > the files are in the format pine left them in on one of my unix > accounts...which should be standard BSD mail format. You will have read-only, but not read-write, access to such folders when they are local files on DOS. Note that by default, only files with an extension of MBX will be recognized. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 18:44:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15826; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:44:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21070; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:37:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21062; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:37:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tKyqe-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 18:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tonyl@au.mdis.com (Tony Lorimer) Subject: Re: import into pine ??? Date: 29 Nov 1995 04:08:51 GMT Message-Id: <49gmcj$4vs@tardis.au.mdis.com> References: Guy Katz (s2306863@techst02.technion.ac.il) wrote: : I would like to know how can i import a text file into pine. : I know i can 'attach' it but this is not what i want :) -- If you are using pico the ^R (CTRL R) will do the trick -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Lorimer(tlorimer@au.mdis.com) Phone: +612 4365700 UNIX Consultant MDIS - McDonnell Information Systems Pty Ltd Fax : +612 4392439 Sydney Australia Voice: +612 4365751 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 19:12:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16549; Wed, 29 Nov 95 19:12:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21540; Wed, 29 Nov 95 19:03:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bass.com.my by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21534; Wed, 29 Nov 95 19:03:37 -0800 Received: from bass.bass.com.my (gw.bass.com.my) by bass.com.my with SMTP id AA08812 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:04:36 +0800 Received: by bass.bass.com.my (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17400; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:01:48 MYT Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:56:09 +0800 (MYT) From: Jesvinder Singh Subject: HELP To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i have a problem subscribing to majordomo news group.Any info or help will be appreciated. My e-mail add. is jesvinder@bass.com.my Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 19:25:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16862; Wed, 29 Nov 95 19:25:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21928; Wed, 29 Nov 95 19:22:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gn2.getnet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21922; Wed, 29 Nov 95 19:22:51 -0800 Received: from gn2.getnet.com (anthesis@gn2.getnet.com [204.157.9.29]) by getnet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA26818 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 20:22:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 20:22:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199511300322.UAA26818@getnet.com> X-Sender: anthesis@gn2.getnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anthesis@getnet.com (K. Robert Carlston) Subject: HUnsubscribe from PINE mail lis I would like to unsubscribe from the mail list but have misplaced the command sequence necessary to do so. Can you help? Thanks! K. Robert Carlston AKA Anthesis@getnet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 22:18:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21418; Wed, 29 Nov 95 22:18:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24080; Wed, 29 Nov 95 22:12:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24074; Wed, 29 Nov 95 22:12:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL2E6-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 22:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fdboer@baan.nl (Feico de Boer) Subject: Re: How to specify user-id for imap in-box Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:25:55 GMT References: <49fc0d$je6@fu-berlin.de> In article <49fc0d$je6@fu-berlin.de>, Sven Guckes (guckes@math.fu-berlin.de) scribbled: > fdboer@baan.nl (Feico de Boer) writes: > >Is the following possible in pine: > >Specify multiple imap in-boxes with different user-id's. [...] > >incoming-folders=INCOMING inbox, > > INCOMING some_user {some_user@some.host.domain}inbox, > > INCOMING other_user {other_user@some.host.domain}inbox > No. > Here's the sketch of a proof: > Assume it was posssible. > You start PINE with user id "uid1" on inbox "inbox1". > Now you switch to inbox2 which belongs to uid2. > PINE now must be able to update "inbox2" > How should PINE get permissions of uid2? > Now, if PINE was able to change it's permissions simply by an entry > in the setup file then I'd define this: > INCOMING xxx {root@your.host.domain}inbox > I'm sure I'd have lots of fun. :-) Assumed you are allowed to connect (1) and do know the root passwd (2). Sure we will have lots of fun looking at the logfiles. I can already log in to one host but I do need permissions and a password, why can't this scheme be extended to multiple hosts. Maybe I'm missing some- thing, but it appears to me your sketch is not valid. Greets, -- Feico de Boer Baan Europe B.V. Porting Engineer Porting and Benchmarking Centre Baron van Nagellstraat 89 Email: fdboer@baan.nl P.O. Box 143 Phone: +31-3420-28888 3770 AC BARNEVELD Fax : +31-3420-28606 The Netherlands [my employer only sponsors the bandwidth, not my opinions] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 22:35:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21877; Wed, 29 Nov 95 22:35:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24313; Wed, 29 Nov 95 22:23:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bass.com.my by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24301; Wed, 29 Nov 95 22:23:28 -0800 Received: from bass.bass.com.my (gw.bass.com.my) by bass.com.my with SMTP id AA11039 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:24:06 +0800 Received: by bass.bass.com.my (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22906; Thu, 30 Nov 95 14:21:18 MYT Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:07:14 +0800 (MYT) From: Jesvinder Singh Subject: S.O.S To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to subscribe to pine-info or majordomo news group. My efforts to perform this task however have failed misserably. Could anyone out there assist in this matter. My e-mail address is jesvinder.singh@bass.com.my From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 22:35:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21892; Wed, 29 Nov 95 22:35:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24997; Wed, 29 Nov 95 22:27:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24991; Wed, 29 Nov 95 22:27:55 -0800 Received: from localhost by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67f2/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA24059; Wed, 29 Nov 95 22:27:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 22:26:39 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: pcpine folder collections... (fwd) To: Jesse Aaron Safir Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:25:48 -0800 (PST), Mark Crispin wrote: > Note that by default, only files with an extension of MBX will be > recognized. Correction: the extension is "MTX", not "MBX". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 29 23:56:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23875; Wed, 29 Nov 95 23:56:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26461; Wed, 29 Nov 95 23:47:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26455; Wed, 29 Nov 95 23:47:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL3hM-00038CC; Wed, 29 Nov 95 23:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Young Subject: free advertising Date: 30 Nov 1995 17:30:39 GMT Message-Id: <49kpnv$clc@silver.starway.net.au> References: <49gg7h$44t@sydney1.world.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you want to advertise free on the net let us know. Even include pictures. -- Paul Young Xnet Australia http://xnet.com.au/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 00:11:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24348; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:11:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26718; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:02:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26712; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:02:57 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24046; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:02:53 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:02:52 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: John Jastrow <70423.2707@compuserve.com> Cc: PineMail support Subject: Re: we need pinemail In-Reply-To: <951129190055_70423.2707_JHD156-2@CompuServe.COM> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Nov 1995, John Jastrow wrote: > Would you please forward me any information on PineMail? We'd like to > run in on a SUN with Solaris 2.4 (2.5 soon) as soon as possible. Most everything we know about Pine can be found at http://www.washington.edu/pine > How do I get the binaries? Do I need to compile myself? There are some precompiled binaries available via FTP (see below). Solaris is one of them. > Do you support this product at the U. of Wash.? If so, how? In terms of bug > fixes, updates, etc. We support the 50,000 Pine users at the University of Washington. We freely share the results of those efforts with the other 5 million Pine users around the world. Occasionaly folks on the Pine team take their own free or family time to try to help others (but it never ceases to amaze us how many people outside of UW *expect* us to support them.) There are rumors of a new version coming along, but we don't try to guess release dates anymore. > Is there a charge for any services you offer? In general our software is available for free, and we don't currently sell any services. > Could you send me the application on 4mm tape to below: Sorry, no. It's available via anonymous ftp from ftp.cac.washington.edu in the /pine directory > Thanks! You're welcome... but you might want to know that your message went to a world-wide mailing list of people interested in Pine. To send just to the UW Pine development team, use the address "pine@cac.washington.edu" You'll get an immediate machine-generated acknowledgement that sez you may never hear from us again (using wording ripped off from Netscape :), but we do try to at least read everything that comes in... -teg > ** John Jastrow (615-251-5957) (FAX-5900) > ** EDS 70423.2707@compuserve.com > ** c/o Baptist Sunday School Board, MSN 130 > ** 127 9th Ave. North, Nashville, TN 37234 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 00:50:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24949; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:50:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26524; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:37:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26518; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:37:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL4TE-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: an405881@anon.penet.fi (Ashley) Subject: Re: Get Australia's most exclusive Email address - sv.net.au http://www.sv.net.au/email CHECK IT OUT NOW! Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:41:22 GMT Message-Id: <49iutt$8o9@sydney1.world.net> References: <49gg7h$44t@sydney1.world.net> You should realise that by Spamming newsgroups with useless crap that no one could really give a shit about that your not going to help yourself. People will more than likely avoid you. You obviously haven't heard that usually when people spam newsgroups that they end up with negative not positive effects. And how do you possibly claim that sv.net.au is exclusive, I'd have thought that world.net is slightly more exclusive. Next time post where its relevant and piss off from other groups. ******************************************************************************* When you have nothing to say, say nothing. - Charles Caleb Colton From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 00:58:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25054; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:58:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27411; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:42:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27405; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:42:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL4Yc-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brandon Hutchison (Brandon Hutchison,Civil Eng Dept) Subject: Where can I get Pine? Date: 30 Nov 95 13:38:27 +1200 Message-Id: <1995Nov30.133827@cantva> Where can I get a copy of Pine to run on an AlphaStation running OSF/1. Is it free? Are there any ftp sites holding this? Thanks in advance -- Brandon Hutchison,University of Canterbury,Christchurch New Zealand From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 01:08:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25312; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:08:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26883; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:02:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26877; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:02:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL4qC-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 00:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Does anyone know a good unix calendar/reminder program? Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:54:22 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just need something to remind of people's birthdays. I figured PINE gurus might know if such a thing existed because they're usually UNIX gurus as well. Thanks, Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 01:32:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25982; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:32:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27026; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:12:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27020; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:12:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL51x-00038DC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreardon@sound.net (Mike Reardon) Subject: Re: Pine and Data General Aviion Date: 30 Nov 1995 00:36:30 GMT Message-Id: <49iuae$872@guitar.sound.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article , brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca says... >Try putting the at the TOP of the file...before other includes. >Then I don't think you need the undef. Then things should work...Replies >et al, from what I recall. I'll try that in the morning. Thanks for the suggestion! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 01:57:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26409; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:57:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28404; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:48:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28398; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:47:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL5Xu-00038DC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine - not see email - Sun Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:21:59 -0800 Message-Id: References: <1995Nov28.233221.20524@indyvax.iupui.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Nov28.233221.20524@indyvax.iupui.edu> The most obvious explanation is that you built the "sun" port of Pine instead of the "sol" port. The sun port is for the BSD-based SUN-OS; the sol port is for Solaris (which is what "SunOS 5.4" really is). On SUN-OS, mail was located in /usr/spool/mail, which is probably where your Pine is looking. If you make a symbolic link to /var/mail from /usr/spool/mail, Pine will probably start working, but you should build the proper port. On 28 Nov 1995 jbowden@velcome.iupui.edu wrote: > SunOS 5.4 sun4m sparc > > I have pine installed on /usr/local/bin/pine (protections: -rwxr-xr-x) > > When I enter pine it displays my INBOX as having zero messages. > > When I enter mailx it displays a queue of messages awaiting to be read. > > What have I done wrong in this installation? > > The mail is located in: /var/mail/userid -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 01:59:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26487; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:59:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27894; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:12:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27886; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:12:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL51x-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oore@cs.toronto.edu (Sageev Oore) Subject: forwarding options Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Date: 30 Nov 95 00:02:29 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Is there an automatic way to get those little indentation markers when I forward messages ? ie. ------------------ on nov 29, you wrote > blah blah blah > more blah blah blah > blah ------------------ Also, is there an automatic way to reply and forward a copy of the message at the same time? thanks, Sageev ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sageev Oore, oore@cs.toronto.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 02:05:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26589; Thu, 30 Nov 95 02:05:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27530; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:48:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27524; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:48:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL5YG-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: we need pinemail Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:28:26 -0800 Message-Id: References: <951129190055_70423.2707_JHD156-2@CompuServe.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <951129190055_70423.2707_JHD156-2@CompuServe.COM> Pine is available on the Internet via anonymous FTP: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z Prebuilt binaries for various versions of Unix Pine are on: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin/ Prebuilt binaries for various TCP/IP stacks on DOS are on: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/ We release updates periodically. Pine 3.91 was released a year ago. The next release, Pine 3.92, will be a major update. We accept bug reports at pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, but we can't guarantee that you'll get a fast response (or any response at all) due to the huge volume of messages that we get. Presumably, you'd rather have us fixing bugs that spending our time answering the 500th message that reports the same bug or every feature suggestion. We do read every message, though. We don't charge. We aren't in the business of shipping tapes; sorry. Several vendors of freeware CD-ROMs include Pine in their distribution. On 29 Nov 1995, John Jastrow wrote: > Would you please forward me any information on PineMail? We'd like to run in on > a SUN with Solaris 2.4 (2.5 soon) as soon as possible. > > How do I get the binaries? Do I need to compile myself? > > Do you support this product at the U. of Wash.? If so, how? In terms of bug > fixes, updates, etc. > > Is there a charge for any services you offer? > > Could you send me the application on 4mm tape to below: > > Thanks! > ** John Jastrow (615-251-5957) (FAX-5900) > ** EDS 70423.2707@compuserve.com > ** c/o Baptist Sunday School Board, MSN 130 > ** 127 9th Ave. North, Nashville, TN 37234 > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 02:35:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27122; Thu, 30 Nov 95 02:35:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28794; Thu, 30 Nov 95 02:18:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28788; Thu, 30 Nov 95 02:18:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL5zY-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 02:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: UUEncode Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:00:32 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 29 Nov 1995, Nicholas Samuels wrote: > I've received an attachment encoded with UUEncode. > > Is there any way I can view this with PINE? Not by Pine as such. > If not, how can I decode it? It depends. If you are running Pine on some Unix flavor and have enabled piping, just pull up the attachement and pipe to uudecode. The output file should be in the current directory (I think). Otherwise you may have to export/save to an external file and uudecode it manually with a utility. > And, if MIME is the standard, why is anyone using UUEncode? The message > was sent from s system using MCIMail, which apparently, uses UUEncode > automatically. MIME is not really a standard as such' it's just what Pine uses. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 02:54:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27407; Thu, 30 Nov 95 02:54:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28167; Thu, 30 Nov 95 02:36:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28161; Thu, 30 Nov 95 02:36:26 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA23089 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:34:18 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id NAA22186 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:36:08 +0300 (OET) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:36:48 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow To: Pine Mailing list Subject: Strange behavior of ALt-Gr key. X-Sender: bor@itsmx1.mow.sni.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, folks! Here is a question mostly for German users. I am using Pine for Windows with WfW, German keyboard. Every time I press AltGr it changes my SPACE to 'move to next word' command. That is I JUST press AltGr, then tip in some words, THEN press SPACE - and jump to the next word. The only thing to make SPACE to work again is to give Ctrl-D - I didn't find any other remedy. Have anybody seen it also? Is it a bug or a feature :-) Thanks for any reply greetings ---------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 03:22:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27963; Thu, 30 Nov 95 03:22:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28606; Thu, 30 Nov 95 03:08:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28598; Thu, 30 Nov 95 03:08:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL6mb-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 03:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@white.lambton.on.ca (David Grant) Subject: PCPINE sends invalid HELO? Date: 28 Nov 1995 12:06:45 -0500 Message-Id: <49ffj5$s3k@white.lambton.on.ca> I've got a strange configuration problem with PC Pine, or I've found a bug in it's SMTP exchange. Here are the symptoms: PC Pine won't send mail although Windows Pine does. The configurations are identical as far as I can tell. I see from the packets flying by that WinPine does a dns lookup and connects to our mail-hub white.lambton.on.ca (aka lambton.on.ca) with a HELO pcwhatever.lambton.on.ca and there is goodness and light. Dumb ol' PC Pine just says HELO lambton.on.ca to which white exclaims: HELO lambton.on.ca 553 Local configuration error, hostname not recognized as local Is this a known bug in PC Pine or do I have something set up wrong? Please CC: david@lambton.on.ca Dave -- ----- David Grant VE3DGR +1 519 542-7751 x348 Lambton College, Sarnia, ON, CANADA +1 519 542-6667 FAX From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 04:35:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29623; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:35:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00724; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:18:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00717; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:18:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL7tS-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbowden@velcome.iupui.edu () Subject: Pine - not see email - Sun Message-Id: <1995Nov28.233221.20524@indyvax.iupui.edu> Date: 28 Nov 95 23:32:21 -0500 SunOS 5.4 sun4m sparc I have pine installed on /usr/local/bin/pine (protections: -rwxr-xr-x) When I enter pine it displays my INBOX as having zero messages. When I enter mailx it displays a queue of messages awaiting to be read. What have I done wrong in this installation? The mail is located in: /var/mail/userid Thanks Jim Bowden 7260 Shadeland Station #370 551 North Dearborn Street Indianapolis, IN Indianapolis, IN v: 317 594 1560 v: 317 263 0363 f: 317 594 1562 e: bowdenj@iquest.net, jbowden@velcome.iupui.edu w: http://velcome.iupui.edu/~jbowden Hostelling Information: http://gnn.com/gnn/bus/ayh 100995 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 04:57:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00235; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:57:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00183; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:43:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00177; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:43:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL8JC-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward H Fenster Subject: Pine & Windows NT Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:57:25 +0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Although it had been working for awhile, Pine crashes under Windows NT WHEN I set it in the program manager to run in its own memory and AFTER I log into my mail server (name & password prompts work okay). Ocassionally, Pine survives until I try to open a folder, then it crashes. Normally, I wouldn't mind NOT running it in 'mixed' memory, except that when Pine does crash there, it brings all of NT with it. Specifically, I get: PINE caused a general protection fault in module KNRL386.EXE at 0001:1A03. Choose Close. Pine Will Close. Any ideas? Thanks. - Edward From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 05:35:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00962; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:35:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01509; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:13:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01503; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:13:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL8lY-00038DC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Using PINE on a mac. Date: 28 Nov 1995 20:19:53 GMT Message-Id: <49fqt9$pc6@fu-berlin.de> References: <494kp6$c8k@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> tim.livingston@attws.com writes: >When I dial-in to my university account and attempt to read my new email via >Pine, I get mixed lines of characters and message headers on the screen making >it unreadable, it seems to write over itself without refreshing the screen. So you use a Mac at home - but you do not use Pine on it. Pine rather runs on the other end of the line, right? (I here I was thinking that I have missed the release for the Mac version.) Looks like the screen setup in your side does not match the stuff on the other side. You had better have a look at your terminal settings. >When I logon I set the term to VT100, is there a better emulation? There is. But you should not use anything you cannot communicate with. >I'm using ZTerm and I believe it's setup properly. Belief is what you should use when you go to church! Sven -- One day people will know how to use proper Subject lines - and then they'll close down the Internet. -Nostradamus From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 05:52:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01352; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:52:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01022; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:41:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01016; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:41:51 -0800 Received: from ciint by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA19239 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:41:46 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa24232; 30 Nov 95 14:15 WET Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:15:04 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: "K. Robert Carlston" Cc: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HUnsubscribe from PINE mail lis In-Reply-To: <199511300322.UAA26818@getnet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, K. Robert Carlston wrote: > I would like to unsubscribe from the mail list but have misplaced the > command sequence necessary to do so. Can you help? > > Thanks! > K. Robert Carlston > AKA Anthesis@getnet.com > If you want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send the following command in email to "Majordomo@cac.washington.edu": unsubscribe pine-info "K. Robert Carlston" That should do the trick. Best regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | ...at a time when men were REAL men and | | CI International B.V. | wrote their own device drivers (Linus) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 05:55:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01398; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:55:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01040; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:42:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01034; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:42:16 -0800 Received: from ciint by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA19291 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:42:12 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa25152; 30 Nov 95 14:22 WET Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:22:31 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Michael Pollak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Does anyone know a good unix calendar/reminder program? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Michael Pollak wrote: > I just need something to remind of people's birthdays. I figured > PINE gurus might know if such a thing existed because they're usually > UNIX gurus as well. Yes indeed, Unix has a reminder service (really, what doesn't Unix have? ;-) If you type the command man calendar you should get some in-depth information regarding the use and configuration of this calendar service. Feel free to contact me if you require extra help. Best regards, - Richard. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | ...at a time when men were REAL men and | | CI International B.V. | wrote their own device drivers (Linus) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 06:09:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01940; Thu, 30 Nov 95 06:09:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01276; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:58:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01270; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:58:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL9UX-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 05:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbowden@velcome.iupui.edu () Subject: Re: Pine - not see email -sun Message-Id: <1995Nov30.021303.20608@indyvax.iupui.edu> Date: 30 Nov 95 02:13:03 -0500 I've solved my problem. I had the pine-sun version installed on my system. I instead have just installed the pine-solaris version and it is now working. jim Jim Bowden 7260 Shadeland Station #370 551 North Dearborn Street Indianapolis, IN Indianapolis, IN v: 317 594 1560 v: 317 263 0363 f: 317 594 1562 e: bowdenj@iquest.net, jbowden@velcome.iupui.edu w: http://velcome.iupui.edu/~jbowden Hostelling information: http://gnn.com/gnn/bus/ayh 100995 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 06:14:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02198; Thu, 30 Nov 95 06:14:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01370; Thu, 30 Nov 95 06:04:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01364; Thu, 30 Nov 95 06:04:08 -0800 Received: from ciint by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA22004 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:04:04 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa26901; 30 Nov 95 14:50 WET Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:50:42 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: masi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MAC BINHEX 40 In-Reply-To: <49i8of$rko@maureen.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Nov 1995, masi wrote: > We use pine 3.91 Unix, and sometimes we receive attachments > encoded with MAS-BINHEX 40. Is there any way to read or > un-encode these on Unix? Since I've run into the same problem only weeks ago, I can now send you the information that other Net users were kind enough to send me (recycling hits the Usenet ;-) Your best shot for extracting the data on a Unix box is using either the program mcvert ( see for info ) or the program xbin ( use archie to obtain one of the many ftp sites that carry it ) Thanks again to Paul J. Schinder , Rick Troxel Simon Barnes Don Sugarman (the DOS solution: HEXBIN.EXE) for supplying me with the original information. Best regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | ...at a time when men were REAL men and | | CI International B.V. | wrote their own device drivers (Linus) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 06:42:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02915; Thu, 30 Nov 95 06:42:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02578; Thu, 30 Nov 95 06:28:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02572; Thu, 30 Nov 95 06:28:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tL9uX-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 06:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjw@pobox.com (Michael J. Weiss) Subject: Building Pine On Solaris - Compile Time Options Don't Work Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:53:26 GMT Message-Id: <49k5us$j75@cocoa.brown.edu> I build pine semi-succesfully on Solaris (2.3 I believe). I specifically rebuilt it in order to modify certain compile-time options such as allowing users to change the "From:" header, etc. and thus create a custom version of Pine, slightly different than the one available on my system. First of all, I was not able to find a pre-done option to build for Solaris. I followed the instructions to build the program on an operating system which wasn't listed, and it ran when I finished. Unfortunately, it functioned exactly as the version of Pine on my system, seemingly ignoring all of the options which I had compiled it with. I was very careful that I was executing my local copy of pine rather than the one available system-wide. I am curious why such a seemingly popular operating system isn't one of the default supported ones. Perhaps the process which I went through to compile under this OS has something to do with the compile-time options I set in the header not taking effect? Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks so much for your help. Michael Weiss From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 07:36:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04244; Thu, 30 Nov 95 07:36:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02608; Thu, 30 Nov 95 07:13:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02602; Thu, 30 Nov 95 07:13:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLAeY-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 07:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elmer@wpi.edu (Andrew Toppan) Subject: Re: cancelling a letter Date: 29 Nov 1995 06:26:11 GMT Message-Id: <49gue3$c6k@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: DJ JOE reshaped the electrons to say: : Each time i'm using a Mac and compose a letter in PINE i can't get the [...] : When i use PC's, however, i don't have this problem. Does anyone know : what i'm doing wrong? Using a Mac? Sorry, couldn't resist. -- Andrew Toppan --- elmer@wpi.edu --- http://www.wpi.edu/~elmer/ Railroads, Ships and Aircraft Homepage, Tom Clancy FAQ Archive "I am Pentium of Borg. Arithmetic is irrelevant. Prepare to be approximated." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 07:46:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04594; Thu, 30 Nov 95 07:46:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03655; Thu, 30 Nov 95 07:31:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03649; Thu, 30 Nov 95 07:31:33 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04194; Thu, 30 Nov 95 07:31:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 07:31:25 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UUEncode In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > And, if MIME is the standard, why is anyone using UUEncode? The message > > was sent from s system using MCIMail, which apparently, uses UUEncode > > automatically. > > MIME is not really a standard as such' it's just what Pine uses. Paul This is incorrect. MIME is *the* Internet standard for encoding and labelling non-ascii messages. See RFC-1521 (which, by the way, answers Sven's question about what's wrong with uuencode.) -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 08:18:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05908; Thu, 30 Nov 95 08:18:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04392; Thu, 30 Nov 95 08:08:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04386; Thu, 30 Nov 95 08:08:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLBUC-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 08:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bobby@dknet.dk (Bobby Billingsley) Subject: Personality change on the fly? Date: 30 Nov 1995 09:36:49 GMT Message-Id: <49jtvh$kk3@news.dknet.dk> Hi all... A feature I very much miss is to be able to *completely* change the header info (From, Reply-To, signature etc.) when handling mailing-lists. Anyone know whether this is in the charts? /bobby -- Bobby Billingsley, Backbone manager mailto:bobby@dk.net = DKnet =, EUnet Danmark http://www.DKnet.dk/~bobby Fruebjergvej 3, DK-2100 Copenhagen O Phone: 39 17 99 00, Fax: 39 17 98 97 DoD# 80884 -- Bobby Billingsley, Backbone manager mailto:bobby@dk.net = DKnet =, EUnet Danmark http://www.DKnet.dk/~bobby Fruebjergvej 3, DK-2100 Copenhagen O Phone: 39 17 99 00, Fax: 39 17 98 97 DoD# 80884 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 08:44:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07206; Thu, 30 Nov 95 08:44:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04262; Thu, 30 Nov 95 08:26:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from access2.digex.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04256; Thu, 30 Nov 95 08:26:40 -0800 Received: (from pobart@localhost) by access2.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA07538 ; for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:26:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:26:35 -0500 (EST) From: Paul O Bartlett X-Sender: pobart@access2.digex.net To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UUEncode In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Express Access Private Account Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Terry Gray wrote: : On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: : : > > And, if MIME is the standard, why is anyone using UUEncode? The message : > > was sent from s system using MCIMail, which apparently, uses UUEncode : > > automatically. : > : > MIME is not really a standard as such' it's just what Pine uses. : : Paul : This is incorrect. MIME is *the* Internet standard for encoding and : labelling non-ascii messages. See RFC-1521 (which, by the way, answers : Sven's question about what's wrong with uuencode.) I stand corrected. Thank you. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 09:19:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09621; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:19:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05724; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:08:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05718; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:08:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLCPG-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbodarky@leia.ursinus.edu (Jonathan Bodarky) Subject: BCC? how? ? ? ! Date: 29 Nov 1995 02:46:35 -0500 Message-Id: <49h34r$q01@leia.ursinus.edu> If anyone could help , i will be extremely grateful... Is there a BCC function in pine? (Blind Carbon Copy?) Meaning, is there any way that I can send to everyone on an addressbook distribution list without everyone on that list seeing who the mail was also sent to? Please Email if you can help! THANKS IN ADVANCE! JOn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 09:31:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10048; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:31:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06164; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:21:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06148; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:21:43 -0800 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA29896; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:21:11 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:21:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: Mike Reardon Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Pine and Data General Aviion In-Reply-To: <199511301655.KAA27107@sound.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Mike Reardon wrote: > > > add a line to c-client/os_d-g.c: > > > > > > #include "log_std.c" > > > #include "gr_waitp.c" > > > #include "tz_sv4.c" > > > + #include > > > > > > #undef utime > > > > Try putting the at the TOP of the file...before other includes. > > Then I don't think you need the undef. Then things should work...Replies > > et al, from what I recall. > > I tried that without the undef, and the program locked up when I tried to > run it. Froze immediately when I logged into it. > > I put the utime include at the top, but left the undef at the bottom, and > I still get the unable to reply problem...Pine crashes. Damn... What rev are you running on what machine (DGUX-AViion) I will try to find time to figure out what change I made that allowed the smooth functionality. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 10:04:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12503; Thu, 30 Nov 95 10:04:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07350; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:40:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from taurus.oac.uci.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07344; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:40:20 -0800 Received: by taurus.oac.uci.edu id AA06046 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine ); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:40:18 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:40:18 -0800 (PST) From: John Nguyen To: pine Subject: How to Global Search Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering if PINE allows for a global search. What I mean is that I want to search for a certain keyword, but in all my folders- not just the one I'm currently in. Thanks, /////////////////////////////////// /// John Nguyen /// /// jnnguyen@uci.edu /// /// School of Engineering /// /////////////////////////////////// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 11:31:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16880; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:31:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09798; Thu, 30 Nov 95 10:59:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09790; Thu, 30 Nov 95 10:59:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLEBx-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 10:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm11455@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jason Baker) Subject: Re: Pine and Data General Aviion Date: 30 Nov 1995 17:22:12 GMT Message-Id: <49kp84$ab0@orca.osg.gov.bc.ca> References: In article , brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca ("Brian P. Hampson") writes: >On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Mike Reardon wrote: > >> The following was sent to me by eross@cccc.cc.colorado.edu: >> >> add a line to c-client/os_d-g.c: >> >> #include "log_std.c" >> #include "gr_waitp.c" >> #include "tz_sv4.c" >> + #include >> >> #undef utime > >Try putting the at the TOP of the file...before other includes. >Then I don't think you need the undef. Then things should work...Replies >et al, from what I recall. > >B. I've been having a bear of a time getting 3.91 to compile on an AV5500 as well, and until I can get a version of Pine that lets me tell it how to handle wierd mime types (like Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=sign) I can't use the full features of ELM. *sigh* Anyways, enough whining... It sounds like where I'm having the problem is not unique - I try to reply to a message, and it crashes. I've tried adding extra debug messages to the source, to isolate exactly where I get the failure, but so far it seems to get to the end of end_tty_driver and vanishes. This is *after* it's gone through auger_in_signal from signal.c. Here's a quick snippet: ***** === send called === ---- COMPOSER ---- auger_in_signal() <- Mine about to end_tty_driver post raw(0) call <- Mine Pine Panic: Received abort signal save_debug_on_crash: Version 3.91: debug level 2 : Wed Nov 29 23:06:32 1995 Attempting to save debug file to /home/bm11455/.pine-crash ***** Am I correct in thinking you've seen this before, or something similar to it? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jbaker@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca | To err is human; to really Systems Administrator, Information Systems | bugger things up requires BC Family Maintenance Enforcement Program | the root password. print unpack("u","92G5S\=\"!A;F]T:&5R(\'!E Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18037; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:50:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10572; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:39:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10566; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:39:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLEoF-00038DC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: too short replies get bounced Date: 28 Nov 1995 20:10:22 GMT Message-Id: <49fqbe$p42@fu-berlin.de> References: <48kgrq$s31@math.amu.edu.pl> Ahuva writes: >When I use eply to answer a post, and I want to include the original post, >if my addition is to short, the post won't get posted. I get a message that >the original post was longer than the additional text, so it can't be posted. Good! That's a "good feature"[tm]! >Is there any way to change the configuration, so that even small addition will >be get posted? Usefull for example if it's a string post where consecutive >answers are added to a pile of posts. Those "string post" aka "cascades" are quite traffic friendly - NOT! And they are only one of those reasons why the rule "more original than quote" is used. Let's keep it that way! Should I mention that I edited your post and that I added more than I am quoting from you? Thank God for sigs! hehehe Sven -- ##### # # Home of ASCII snails: # ### # http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/afw/ascii.snails.home.html # ### # # #### Help the endangered ascii snails of Usenet: # Send asterisks, hash marks, and at signs. ##### Give generously! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 12:36:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20006; Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:36:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11859; Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:27:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tempest.ece.uiuc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11853; Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:27:57 -0800 Received: (from bzimmer@localhost) by tempest.ece.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA02374; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:27:55 -0600 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:27:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian T. Zimmer" X-Sender: bzimmer@tempest.ece.uiuc.edu To: pine Subject: New messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Pine used to beep when it received a new message. Now it no longer beeps and in order to get new mail I have to exit Pine and run it again. I changed my .procmail, would this have broken it?? Thanks in advance! Brian ----- Brian Zimmer "You can build a small fire and bzimmer@uiuc.edu stand close or you can build a http://www.ziclix.com/~bzimmer big fire and stand way back." ** On Wisconsin, On Wisconsin!! ** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 12:46:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20621; Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:46:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12938; Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:39:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12932; Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:39:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLFkh-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vik@teleport.com (Vikram Lall) Subject: Manipulating .addressbook, help requested Date: 30 Nov 1995 12:32:37 -0800 Message-Id: <49l4d5$961@linda.teleport.com> I am writing a shell script to add entries to aliases in the .addressbook file, but before I start, I wanted to run some things by you experts! 1. Will pine be okay with the .addressbook being written to? 2. Has this been done before, and do any scripts exist for this sort of thing? I am sure this has been raised before, so any help will be much appreciated. Thanks, vik@teleport.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 13:31:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22986; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:31:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13550; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:21:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bbs.highnet2.columbus.oh.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13544; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:21:15 -0800 Received: from bbs.highnet2.columbus.oh.us (edunagin@bbs.highnet2.columbus.oh.us [206.21.108.2]) by bbs.highnet2.columbus.oh.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA03788 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:22:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:22:40 -0500 (EST) From: Edward Dunagin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: newly setup Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII have loaded pine v3.91 for linux...have been looking in the docs and in comp.mail.pine for some answers to no avail....so...couple of questions.. 1. Is there a way to global disable the users ability to "A"dd newsgroups after i customize their .newsrc file? 2. Are there any utilities to set up qwk mail packets so my users can download their email and newsgroups? via dial-in or telnet...? thanks and Peace...........................ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 15:42:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29708; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:42:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17264; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:34:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17258; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:34:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLIQV-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jcygan@gateway.wiltel.com (Joe Cygan) Subject: Re: Help compiling 3.91 ERROR Date: 30 Nov 1995 21:55:57 GMT Message-Id: <49l99d$kdt@gateway.wcom.com> References: <49idar$dh4@gateway.wiltel.com> The fix you sent: >The following was sent to me by eross@cccc.cc.colorado.edu: > >add a line to c-client/os_d-g.c: > #include "log_std.c" > #include "gr_waitp.c" > #include "tz_sv4.c" >+ #include > > #undef utime > >This worked here this morning... This got it to ccompile on the DG/UX box. BUT.... I cannot reply. Everything else(well maybe not EVERYTHING) seems to work right. But, hit "r" to reply, then answer the question about copying the message. As soon as you type "y" or "n" to the copying message question. BOOM. core dump. How do these issues get addressed around here? Joe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 15:51:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00176; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:51:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18569; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:44:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18563; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:44:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLIbQ-00038DC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm11455@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jason Baker) Subject: Re: Pine and Data General Aviion Date: 30 Nov 1995 22:42:53 GMT Message-Id: <49lc1d$d8h@orca.osg.gov.bc.ca> References: <199511301655.KAA27107@sound.net> In article , brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca ("Brian P. Hampson") writes: >On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Mike Reardon wrote: [snip] >> I put the utime include at the top, but left the undef at the bottom, and >> I still get the unable to reply problem...Pine crashes. > >Damn... What rev are you running on what machine (DGUX-AViion) 5.4R3.10MU02, here, with the same problem. >I will try to find time to figure out what change I made that allowed the >smooth functionality. You do, and I'll buy you a beer! :) -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jbaker@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca | To err is human; to really Systems Administrator, Information Systems | bugger things up requires BC Family Maintenance Enforcement Program | the root password. print unpack("u","92G5S\=\"!A;F]T:&5R(\'!E Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00330; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:53:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17572; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:44:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17566; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:44:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLIcE-00038HC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lgentes@netcom.com (Lockley Gentes) Subject: [Q] Can I use pine with a Pop account? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:59:49 GMT How can I access a pop mail account with unix pine?? Also, how can I specify a different login and/or password?? TIA. -- /\ Lockley Gentes _|\ | | /|_ The Fourth Tier, Inc. \ V V / lgentes@netcom.com >________< || From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 16:44:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03056; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:44:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19210; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:37:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19204; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:37:52 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02640; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:37:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:37:41 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: John Nguyen Cc: pine Subject: Re: How to Global Search In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not yet. Planned for the future (but not 3.92). -teg On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, John Nguyen wrote: > > I was wondering if PINE allows for a global search. What I mean is that > I want to search for a certain keyword, but in all my folders- not just > the one I'm currently in. > > Thanks, > > /////////////////////////////////// > /// John Nguyen /// > /// jnnguyen@uci.edu /// > /// School of Engineering /// > /////////////////////////////////// > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 16:50:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03438; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:50:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20385; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:44:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pappson.papp.undp.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20377; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:44:14 -0800 Received: (from birzeit@localhost) by pappson.papp.undp.org (8.6.9/95.1.10) with UUCP id CAA22009 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 02:25:00 +0200 Received: from englab.birzeit.edu (bajrab@server.englab.birzeit.edu [192.116.1.9]) by birzeit.edu (8.6.8/94.9.28) with ESMTP id MAA08900 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:31:51 +0200 Received: (from bajrab@localhost) by englab.birzeit.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA06990; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:37:08 +0200 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:37:02 +0200 (GMT+0200) From: Bader Al-Ajrab To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: request for information Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII dear sirs: I AM ASTUDENT IN BIRZEIT UNIVERSITY, I STUDY ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING , AND I AM ANEW USER OF THE PINE SYSTEM, SO PLEASE SEND ME MORE DETAILS ABOUT USING THIS WONDERFUL SYSTEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. YOUR'S BADR. B.Z.Y. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 16:56:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03786; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:56:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20600; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:49:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20592; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:49:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLJeQ-00038DC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elmer@wpi.edu (Andrew Toppan) Subject: Re: newly setup Date: 30 Nov 1995 23:18:05 GMT Message-Id: <49le3d$4ag@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: Edward Dunagin reshaped the electrons to say: : 1. Is there a way to global disable the users ability to "A"dd newsgroups : after i customize their .newsrc file? Seems sorta futile. All they have to do is quit pine, grab a text editor, and modify the .newsrc all they want.... -- Andrew Toppan --- elmer@wpi.edu --- http://www.wpi.edu/~elmer/ Railroads, Ships and Aircraft Homepage, Tom Clancy FAQ Archive "I am Pentium of Borg. Arithmetic is irrelevant. Prepare to be approximated." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 17:34:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05887; Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:34:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20718; Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:26:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20712; Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:26:53 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29984; Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:26:51 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:26:50 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Chela Kunasz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: duplicate addresses appearing in .addressbook In-Reply-To: <49iq03$rvr@lace.colorado.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Nov 1995, Chela Kunasz wrote: > Any suggestions or pointers as to how this could happen are > welcome! Thanks for any info. An inadvertent cat .addressbook >> .addressbook would do it. Shouldn't matter where it is located. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 20:40:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11431; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:40:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24420; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:35:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24414; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:35:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLNBm-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Does anyone know a good unix calendar/reminder program? Date: 1 Dec 1995 03:16:10 GMT Message-Id: <49ls1q$nj9@guava.epix.net> References: Michael Pollak (mpollak@panix.com) wrote: : I just need something to remind of people's birthdays. I figured : PINE gurus might know if such a thing existed because they're usually : UNIX gurus as well. Hehhhmmmm ... well normally I prefer the Playboy calendar, but the unix calendar might be an acceptable substitute. Make a file in your home directory named 'calendar' and then RTFM or type 'man calendar' for more information ... Hope this helps ... G'Day. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 21:00:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12018; Thu, 30 Nov 95 21:00:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25978; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:55:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25972; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:55:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLNV4-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Subscribe Date: 30 Nov 1995 22:28:15 GMT Message-Id: <49lb5v$62h@fu-berlin.de> References: Jesvinder.Singh@bass.com.my (Jesvinder Singh) writes: >I would like to subscribe to the pine news group. >From the page http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/index.html : > Send the message: To the address: > subscribe: subscribe pine-info majordomo@cac.washington.edu > unsubscribe: unsubscribe pine-info majordomo@cac.washington.edu Subscription should be as easy as using this command: echo "subscribe pine-info" | mail majordomo@cac.washington.edu Sven Cc: Jesvinder.Singh@bass.com.my (Jesvinder Singh) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 22:01:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13513; Thu, 30 Nov 95 22:01:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25822; Thu, 30 Nov 95 21:55:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25816; Thu, 30 Nov 95 21:55:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tLOOw-00038CC; Thu, 30 Nov 95 21:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Tenex and scalability Date: 1 Dec 1995 04:31:16 GMT Message-Id: <49m0ek$q7l@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> My system is the centralized campus email machine at this university, and currently we have 27,000 users (increasing by about 2,000 per month). We maintain user mailboxes in a 5GB filesystem mounted over /var/spool/mail on a centralized mailserver; all mail delivery is routed to this machine via MX entries and sendmail LOCAL_RELAY directives. This redirection of mail, along with a hard mount, minimizes the mail locking problems which are inherent in any large cluster sharing an NFS-mounted /var/spool/mail. Currently most mail (70%) is accessed on the client machines by an NFS mount of the mailserver's /var/spool/mail filesystem over the client's /var/spool/mail. Pine (or in a very few cases Elm, mailx, etc.) access the mail using the NFS filesystem. Another large part of the mail (25%) is accessed from PC IMAP (or POP) clients running all over the campus, which connect to the University of Washington IMAP daemon (or the POP gateway) running on the mail server. The remaining portion (5%) use PC IMAP or POP clients to connect to the IMAP or POP daemons running on the login client machines. (The final 5%, though less than optimal, is because one of our campus's favorite Mac clients doesn't deal with DNS naming conventions correctly, and must use the client machines as their IMAP and SMTP hosts in order to give mail the correct headers for proper reply.) Obviously, as a system administrator I am interested in maximizing the usefulness and performance of each of my machines. If one uses Berkeley-style ("Unix") mailboxes, then one's mail user agent (such as Pine) or network mail access agent (such as the IMAP or POP server) must load one's entire mailbox into memory in order to process it. The Tenex format, on the other hand, only requires the MUA or IMAP server to keep one message into memory at a time. This can result in significant performance gains. The Tenex mailbox style also allows for multiple processes to concurrently access the file. I would therefore be very interested in using the Tenex mailbox style. But a few things about its requirements give me pause: -- The most obvious one, the requirement of using a MUA or network mail access daemon that supports the Tenex format. We are about to replace our current system (three high-end RS/6000's, one used for mailserving and the other two used for login and home directory fileserving) with a new, larger system (a ten-node SP, with one mailserver node, two fileserver nodes, and seven UNIX login nodes). I do not plan to install any MUAs other than Pine on the new system, so this requirement does not worry me. However, I am concerned that if at some point the Tenex format may no longer be the path we want to take, for whatever reason, there be a path of migration. Are there programs to convert from Tenex to Berkeley format? Is the Tenex specification available so that we can write our own utilities to convert its format to some other in the future? Where would I find a paper documenting this mailbox style? -- I am told that the Tenex format uses Unix filesystem semantics not available under NFS. Is this true? If so, can I expect my mailserver to be able to handle enough more IMAP clients with Tenex so that I can convert my whole cluster to use IMAP exclusively? As I said before, we currently use NFS to mount a shared /var/spool/mail stored on the mailserver. This seems to distribute CPU usage fairly well, because mail deliveries and most IMAP access is local, while MUAs on the Unix login clients use NFS. At one point I changed my global pine.conf file on one of the login clients to use IMAP by default. The mailserver was overwhelmed. It seems that the 50-60 imapd processes it runs now are about all it can manage in the Berkeley format. Is it likely that switching to Tenex would allow the mailserver to run the 400-700 imapds needed with similar performance? -- If not, what are other possibilities? Transparency and elegance are very important to our user community, and the "username@username.email.unc.edu" DNS trick suggested previously on this newsgroup simply would not be accepted here. *Everyone* has an address of the form "username@email.unc.edu" and *everyone* connects to "mailserv.unc.edu". The fact that our user documentation does not have the copious conditionals ("if you are a student whose name begins with A-F and you will graduate in 1997, use the following hostname") that are so common at other universities has been a blessing for support people. -- I am interested to know whether the Tenex mailbox style will work in AFS. If so, could I continue to NFS-mount /var/spool/mail, and modify the c-client to *always* move mail into the home directory, whether or not a mail.txt file is present? -- If, after the above questions are answered, we decide to move to Tenex, we will want to move the current mailboxes to that format so that users don't notice the change (again, transparency and elegance). Is there a tool out there to convert Berkeley mailboxes to Tenex in place? If not, would it be easy to write one? As our IMAP client usage goes up, the 50-60 concurrent imapds my mailserver currently supports will become more and more insufficient. IMSP's IMAP server redirection, if and when it becomes available and is fully supported by Pine and other major IMAP clients, would solve our problems in one fell swoop, but it looks like it may come too late. I am interested in discussing these issues with attendees of the IMAP meeting at UW in January, but the design decisions for this new complex of machines must be made before then. I'd appreciate any thoughts anyone has on the above. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris/ System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 30 22:24:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14309; Thu, 30 Nov 95 22:24:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27434; Thu, 30 Nov 95 22:17:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bass.com.my by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27426; Thu, 30 Nov 95 22:17:41 -0800 Received: from bass.bass.com.my (gw.bass.com.my) by bass.com.my with SMTP id AA21330 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:18:37 +0800 Received: by bass.bass.com.my (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16899; Fri, 1 Dec 95 14:04:41 MYT Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:04:14 +0800 (MYT) From: Jesvinder Singh Subject: S.O.S (Much Obliged) (fwd) To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:40:31 +0800 (MYT) From: Jesvinder Singh To: Majordomo@cac.washington.edu Subject: S.O.S (Much Obliged) Just wanna say "THANK YOU" to all those who responded to my cry for help.