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To: XEmacs Beta List <xemacs-beta@xemacs.org>
Subject: Re: 20.0-b91 sparc-sun-solaris2.4 build failure and then success
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X-Y-Zippy: An air of FRENCH FRIES permeates my nostrils!!
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From: Colin Rafferty <craffert@spspme.ml.com>
Date: 24 Jan 1997 09:56:04 -0500
In-Reply-To: Steven L Baur's message of 23 Jan 1997 10:47:34 -0800
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On 23 Jan 1997 10:47:34 -0800, Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> said:

> I think I've got it.  Could you please try this patch against the
> original b91 puresize.h and see if you can dump?  If this still
> doesn't work, adjust the SUNPRO_PURESIZE_EXTRA accordingly.  It should
> be quite close.

> Thanks.

> Index: puresize.h
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /usr/local/xemacs/xemacs-20.0/src/puresize.h,v
> retrieving revision 1.3
> diff -u -r1.3 puresize.h
> --- puresize.h	1997/01/23 07:09:56	1.3
> +++ puresize.h	1997/01/23 18:41:02
> @@ -32,9 +32,9 @@
>     things configured in. */

>  #if (LONGBITS == 64)
> -# define BASE_PURESIZE 847000
> +# define BASE_PURESIZE 892000
>  #else
> -# define BASE_PURESIZE 467000
> +# define BASE_PURESIZE 512000
>  #endif

>  /* If any particular systems need to change the base puresize, they
> @@ -79,9 +79,9 @@

>  #ifdef MULE
>  # if (LONGBITS == 64)
> -#  define MULE_PURESIZE_EXTRA 144000
> +#  define MULE_PURESIZE_EXTRA 99000
>  # else
> -#  define MULE_PURESIZE_EXTRA 123000
> +#  define MULE_PURESIZE_EXTRA 78000
>  # endif
>  #else
>  # define MULE_PURESIZE_EXTRA 0
> @@ -110,7 +110,7 @@
>  /* Extra amount of purespace needed for Sunpro builds. */

>  #ifdef SUNPRO
> -# define SUNPRO_PURESIZE_EXTRA 40000
> +# define SUNPRO_PURESIZE_EXTRA 135000
>  #else
>  # define SUNPRO_PURESIZE_EXTRA 0
>  #endif



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Just a reminder, here is the configure options that I used:

./configure --with-xface --with-sparcworks --with-tooltalk \
        --site-includes=/export1/craffert/src/site \
        --site-libraries=/export1/craffert/src/site \
        --site-runtime-libraries=/export1/craffert/src/site

Configured for `sparc-sun-solaris2.4'.

  Where should the build process find the source code?    /export1/craffert/src/xemacs-20.0-b91.orig
  What installation prefix should install use?		  /usr/local
  What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use?
        `s/sol2-4.h' and `m/sparc.h'
  What compiler should XEmacs be built with?              gcc -g -O 
  Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc?            yes
  Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes
  What window system should XEmacs use?                   x11
  Where do we find X Windows header files?                /usr/openwin/include
  Where do we find X Windows libraries?                   /usr/openwin/lib
  Additional header files:                                /export1/craffert/src/site
  Additional libraries:                                   /export1/craffert/src/site /export1/craffert/src/site
  Compiling in support for XAUTH.
  Compiling in support for XPM.
  Compiling in support for X-Face headers.
  Compiling in support for GIF image conversion.
  Compiling in native sound support.
  Compiling in support for DBM.
  Compiling in support for ToolTalk.
  Compiling in support for SparcWorks.
  Using the Lucid menubar.
  Using the Lucid scrollbar.
  Using the Athena dialog boxes.
  Compiling in extra code for debugging.
  Compiling in code for checking XEmacs memory usage.


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Here are the dump results from your original patch.
Executive summary: Purespace usage: 762944 of 814000 (94% -- 49k wasted).

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Loading cl...
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Loading keymap... (4252)
Loading syntax... (6316)
Loading device... (696)
Loading console... (132)
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Loading specifier... (2664)
Loading faces... (18728)
Loading glyphs... (7224)
Loading objects... (1788)
Loading extents... (1132)
Loading events... (2112)
Loading text-props... (2676)
Loading process... (3820)
Loading frame... (10692)
Loading map-ynp... (2740)
Loading simple... (35768)
Loading keydefs... (3544)
Loading abbrev... (6784)
Loading derived... (4296)
Loading minibuf... (23708)
Loading list-mode... (9128)
Loading modeline... (4736)
Loading loaddefs...
Loading auto-autoloads... (68916)
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Loading misc... (328)
Loading profile... (540)
Loading help... (18488)
Loading files-nomule... (584)
Loading files... (35248)
Loading lib-complete... (4676)
Loading format... (8452)
Loading indent... (5752)
Loading isearch-mode... (13216)
Loading buffer... (756)
Loading buff-menu... (7324)
Loading undo-stack... (3028)
Loading window... (7276)
Loading paths.el... (6760)
Loading startup... (18624)
Loading lisp... (3448)
Loading page... (1112)
Loading register... (3200)
Loading iso8859-1... (388)
Loading paragraphs... (3000)
Loading lisp-mode... (9204)
Loading text-mode... (1276)
Loading fill... (8804)
Loading float-sup... (368)
Loading itimer... (8708)
Loading toolbar... (1940)
Loading scrollbar... (944)
Loading menubar... (6868)
Loading dialog... (1672)
Loading gui... (1308)
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Loading mouse... (17712)
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Loading x-faces... (8024)
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Loading x-misc... (1300)
Loading x-init... (2232)
Loading x-toolbar... (3056)
Loading tty-init... (1804)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-load...
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-macros... (608)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-util... (2432)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-init... (3736)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-load ...done (6776)
Loading vc-hooks... (5648)
Loading ediff-hook... (1256)
Loading fontl-hooks... (300)
Loading auto-show... (1152)
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Loading cc-mode... (50136)
Loading sunpro-init... (2364)
Loading eos/sun-eos-load...
Loading sun-eos-init... (516)
Loading sun-eos-common... (8168)
Loading sun-eos-editor... (1492)
Loading sun-eos-browser... (1628)
Loading sun-eos-debugger... (6924)
Loading sun-eos-debugger-extra...
Loading sun-eos-menubar... (14532)
Loading comint...
Loading ring... (1740)
Loading comint ...done (30384)
Loading sun-eos-debugger-extra ...done (58652)
Loading sun-eos-menubar... (13656)
Loading eos/sun-eos-load ...done (91060)
Loading annotations... (5684)
Loading sunpro/sunpro-load.el ...done (149244)
Finding pointers to doc strings...
Note: Strange doc (not fboundp) for function index @ 1264648
Finding pointers to doc strings...done
Dumping under the name xemacs
Purespace usage: 762944 of 814000 (94% -- 49k wasted).
                           total:   bytes:
   cons cells:             13975   111800  15%
   float objects:             10      160   0%
   symbol-name strings:     8626   233688  31%
   compiled-function objects: 2030    64960   9%
   byte-code strings:       2030   126124  17%
   byte-constant vectors:   2030    91096  12%
   interactive strings:      318     6376   1%
   documentation strings:      0        0   0%
   other function strings:  2256    96088  13%
   other vectors:            340     8228   1%
   other strings:            572    24408   3%
   all strings:            13802   486684  64%
   all vectors:             2370    99324  13%

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   conses free:                     11828
   cons storage:                   171696
   symbols used:                     8483
   symbol storage:                 204400
   vectors used:                      721
   vectors total length:            47122
   vector storage:                 194256
   short strings used:               3166
   strings free:                     6117
   short strings total length:      51933
   short string storage:            73728
   string header storage:          112420
   floats used:                         2
   floats free:                        13
   float storage:                    2040
   markers used:                       34
   markers free:                      332
   marker storage:                  10220
   extents used:                       16
   extent storage:                   2048
   symbol value lisp magics used:      23
   symbol value lisp magic storage:  1564
   symbol value varaliases used:       42
   symbol value varalias storage:    1008
   opaque lists used:                   2
   opaque list storage:                48
   opaques used:                        4
   opaque storage:                     96
   color instances used:                1
   color instance storage:             24
   font instances used:                 1
   font instance storage:              36
   range tables used:                   1
   range table storage:                16
   faces used:                         24
   face storage:                     1824
   glyphs used:                        17
   glyph storage:                     680
   specifiers used:                   345
   specifier storage:               19815
   weak lists used:                   345
   weak list storage:                8280
   char tables used:                   20
   char table storage:              20960
   buffers used:                        6
   buffer storage:                   1680
   extent infos used:                   4
   extent info storage:                80
   consoles used:                       3
   console storage:                   300
   command builders used:               1
   command builder storage:            56
   keymaps used:                      153
   keymap storage:                   6732
   devices used:                        1
   device storage:                    176
   frames used:                         1
   frame storage:                     212
   image instances used:                1
   image instance storage:             64
   windows used:                        2
   window storage:                    688
   lcrecord lists used:                13
   lcrecord list storage:             312
   hashtables used:                   371
   hashtable storage:               14840
   streams used:                        2
   streams on free list:                2
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I noticed that there was about 50k wasted, so I reduced
SUNPRO_PURESIZE_EXTRA from 135000 to 85000 and rebuilt.

Executive Summary: Purespace usage: 762944 of 764000 (100%).

Loading loadup.el...
Using load-path (/export1/craffert/src/xemacs-20.0-b91.orig/src/../lisp/prim)
Loading backquote... (2556)
Loading bytecomp-runtime... (2596)
Loading subr... (6484)
Loading replace... (11548)
Loading version.el... (2512)
Loading cl...
Loading cl-defs... (9540)
Loading cl ...done (21664)
Loading cmdloop... (6068)
Loading keymap... (4252)
Loading syntax... (6316)
Loading device... (696)
Loading console... (132)
Loading obsolete... (10892)
Loading specifier... (2664)
Loading faces... (18728)
Loading glyphs... (7224)
Loading objects... (1788)
Loading extents... (1132)
Loading events... (2112)
Loading text-props... (2676)
Loading process... (3820)
Loading frame... (10692)
Loading map-ynp... (2740)
Loading simple... (35768)
Loading keydefs... (3544)
Loading abbrev... (6784)
Loading derived... (4296)
Loading minibuf... (23708)
Loading list-mode... (9128)
Loading modeline... (4736)
Loading loaddefs...
Loading auto-autoloads... (68916)
Loading loaddefs ...done (69544)
Loading misc... (328)
Loading profile... (540)
Loading help... (18488)
Loading files-nomule... (584)
Loading files... (35248)
Loading lib-complete... (4676)
Loading format... (8452)
Loading indent... (5752)
Loading isearch-mode... (13216)
Loading buffer... (756)
Loading buff-menu... (7324)
Loading undo-stack... (3028)
Loading window... (7276)
Loading paths.el... (6760)
Loading startup... (18624)
Loading lisp... (3448)
Loading page... (1112)
Loading register... (3200)
Loading iso8859-1... (388)
Loading paragraphs... (3000)
Loading lisp-mode... (9204)
Loading text-mode... (1276)
Loading fill... (8804)
Loading float-sup... (368)
Loading itimer... (8708)
Loading toolbar... (1940)
Loading scrollbar... (944)
Loading menubar... (6868)
Loading dialog... (1672)
Loading gui... (1308)
Loading mode-motion... (2048)
Loading mouse... (17712)
Loading x-menubar... (29216)
Loading x-faces... (8024)
Loading x-iso8859-1... (3424)
Loading x-mouse... (2244)
Loading x-select... (8648)
Loading x-scrollbar... (1044)
Loading x-misc... (1300)
Loading x-init... (2232)
Loading x-toolbar... (3056)
Loading tty-init... (1804)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-load...
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-macros... (608)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-util... (2432)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-init... (3736)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-load ...done (6776)
Loading vc-hooks... (5648)
Loading ediff-hook... (1256)
Loading fontl-hooks... (300)
Loading auto-show... (1152)
Loading sunpro/sunpro-load.el...
Loading cc-mode... (50136)
Loading sunpro-init... (2364)
Loading eos/sun-eos-load...
Loading sun-eos-init... (516)
Loading sun-eos-common... (8168)
Loading sun-eos-editor... (1492)
Loading sun-eos-browser... (1628)
Loading sun-eos-debugger... (6924)
Loading sun-eos-debugger-extra...
Loading sun-eos-menubar... (14532)
Loading comint...
Loading ring... (1740)
Loading comint ...done (30384)
Loading sun-eos-debugger-extra ...done (58652)
Loading sun-eos-menubar... (13656)
Loading eos/sun-eos-load ...done (91060)
Loading annotations... (5684)
Loading sunpro/sunpro-load.el ...done (149244)
Finding pointers to doc strings...
Note: Strange doc (not fboundp) for function index @ 1264648
Finding pointers to doc strings...done
Dumping under the name xemacs
Purespace usage: 762944 of 764000 (100%).
                           total:   bytes:
   cons cells:             13975   111800  15%
   float objects:             10      160   0%
   symbol-name strings:     8626   233688  31%
   compiled-function objects: 2030    64960   9%
   byte-code strings:       2030   126124  17%
   byte-constant vectors:   2030    91096  12%
   interactive strings:      318     6376   1%
   documentation strings:      0        0   0%
   other function strings:  2256    96088  13%
   other vectors:            340     8228   1%
   other strings:            572    24408   3%
   all strings:            13802   486684  64%
   all vectors:             2370    99324  13%

Impurities:
   conses used:                      9338
   conses free:                     11828
   cons storage:                   171696
   symbols used:                     8483
   symbol storage:                 204400
   vectors used:                      721
   vectors total length:            47122
   vector storage:                 194256
   short strings used:               3166
   strings free:                     6117
   short strings total length:      51933
   short string storage:            73728
   string header storage:          112420
   floats used:                         2
   floats free:                        13
   float storage:                    2040
   markers used:                       34
   markers free:                      332
   marker storage:                  10220
   extents used:                       16
   extent storage:                   2048
   symbol value lisp magics used:      23
   symbol value lisp magic storage:  1564
   symbol value varaliases used:       42
   symbol value varalias storage:    1008
   opaque lists used:                   2
   opaque list storage:                48
   opaques used:                        4
   opaque storage:                     96
   color instances used:                1
   color instance storage:             24
   font instances used:                 1
   font instance storage:              36
   range tables used:                   1
   range table storage:                16
   faces used:                         24
   face storage:                     1824
   glyphs used:                        17
   glyph storage:                     680
   specifiers used:                   345
   specifier storage:               19815
   weak lists used:                   345
   weak list storage:                8280
   char tables used:                   20
   char table storage:              20960
   buffers used:                        6
   buffer storage:                   1680
   extent infos used:                   4
   extent info storage:                80
   consoles used:                       3
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   command builders used:               1
   command builder storage:            56
   keymaps used:                      153
   keymap storage:                   6732
   devices used:                        1
   device storage:                    176
   frames used:                         1
   frame storage:                     212
   image instances used:                1
   image instance storage:             64
   windows used:                        2
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   lcrecord lists used:                13
   lcrecord list storage:             312
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Well, we are almost there so, going for broke, I remove another 1k or
so, and set SUNPRO_PURESIZE_EXTRA to 83944.

Executive Summary: Purespace usage: 762944 of 762944 (100% (exactly)).

Loading loadup.el...
Using load-path (/export1/craffert/src/xemacs-20.0-b91.orig/src/../lisp/prim)
Loading backquote... (2556)
Loading bytecomp-runtime... (2596)
Loading subr... (6484)
Loading replace... (11548)
Loading version.el... (2512)
Loading cl...
Loading cl-defs... (9540)
Loading cl ...done (21664)
Loading cmdloop... (6068)
Loading keymap... (4252)
Loading syntax... (6316)
Loading device... (696)
Loading console... (132)
Loading obsolete... (10892)
Loading specifier... (2664)
Loading faces... (18728)
Loading glyphs... (7224)
Loading objects... (1788)
Loading extents... (1132)
Loading events... (2112)
Loading text-props... (2676)
Loading process... (3820)
Loading frame... (10692)
Loading map-ynp... (2740)
Loading simple... (35768)
Loading keydefs... (3544)
Loading abbrev... (6784)
Loading derived... (4296)
Loading minibuf... (23708)
Loading list-mode... (9128)
Loading modeline... (4736)
Loading loaddefs...
Loading auto-autoloads... (68916)
Loading loaddefs ...done (69544)
Loading misc... (328)
Loading profile... (540)
Loading help... (18488)
Loading files-nomule... (584)
Loading files... (35248)
Loading lib-complete... (4676)
Loading format... (8452)
Loading indent... (5752)
Loading isearch-mode... (13216)
Loading buffer... (756)
Loading buff-menu... (7324)
Loading undo-stack... (3028)
Loading window... (7276)
Loading paths.el... (6760)
Loading startup... (18624)
Loading lisp... (3448)
Loading page... (1112)
Loading register... (3200)
Loading iso8859-1... (388)
Loading paragraphs... (3000)
Loading lisp-mode... (9204)
Loading text-mode... (1276)
Loading fill... (8804)
Loading float-sup... (368)
Loading itimer... (8708)
Loading toolbar... (1940)
Loading scrollbar... (944)
Loading menubar... (6868)
Loading dialog... (1672)
Loading gui... (1308)
Loading mode-motion... (2048)
Loading mouse... (17712)
Loading x-menubar... (29216)
Loading x-faces... (8024)
Loading x-iso8859-1... (3424)
Loading x-mouse... (2244)
Loading x-select... (8648)
Loading x-scrollbar... (1044)
Loading x-misc... (1300)
Loading x-init... (2232)
Loading x-toolbar... (3056)
Loading tty-init... (1804)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-load...
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-macros... (608)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-util... (2432)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-init... (3736)
Loading tooltalk/tooltalk-load ...done (6776)
Loading vc-hooks... (5648)
Loading ediff-hook... (1256)
Loading fontl-hooks... (300)
Loading auto-show... (1152)
Loading sunpro/sunpro-load.el...
Loading cc-mode... (50136)
Loading sunpro-init... (2364)
Loading eos/sun-eos-load...
Loading sun-eos-init... (516)
Loading sun-eos-common... (8168)
Loading sun-eos-editor... (1492)
Loading sun-eos-browser... (1628)
Loading sun-eos-debugger... (6924)
Loading sun-eos-debugger-extra...
Loading sun-eos-menubar... (14532)
Loading comint...
Loading ring... (1740)
Loading comint ...done (30384)
Loading sun-eos-debugger-extra ...done (58652)
Loading sun-eos-menubar... (13656)
Loading eos/sun-eos-load ...done (91060)
Loading annotations... (5684)
Loading sunpro/sunpro-load.el ...done (149244)
Finding pointers to doc strings...
Note: Strange doc (not fboundp) for function index @ 1264648
Finding pointers to doc strings...done
Dumping under the name xemacs
Purespace usage: 762944 of 762944 (100%).
                           total:   bytes:
   cons cells:             13975   111800  15%
   float objects:             10      160   0%
   symbol-name strings:     8626   233688  31%
   compiled-function objects: 2030    64960   9%
   byte-code strings:       2030   126124  17%
   byte-constant vectors:   2030    91096  12%
   interactive strings:      318     6376   1%
   documentation strings:      0        0   0%
   other function strings:  2256    96088  13%
   other vectors:            340     8228   1%
   other strings:            572    24408   3%
   all strings:            13802   486684  64%
   all vectors:             2370    99324  13%

Impurities:
   conses used:                      9338
   conses free:                     11828
   cons storage:                   171696
   symbols used:                     8483
   symbol storage:                 204400
   vectors used:                      721
   vectors total length:            47122
   vector storage:                 194256
   short strings used:               3166
   strings free:                     6117
   short strings total length:      51933
   short string storage:            73728
   string header storage:          112420
   floats used:                         2
   floats free:                        13
   float storage:                    2040
   markers used:                       34
   markers free:                      332
   marker storage:                  10220
   extents used:                       16
   extent storage:                   2048
   symbol value lisp magics used:      23
   symbol value lisp magic storage:  1564
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Just for fun, I then reduced SUNPRO_PURESIZE_EXTRA to be 83943, and the
dump failed (as I expected).

So what does this all mean?  Should we really have SUNPRO_PURESIZE_EXTRA
be such a bizarre value?  If that is exactly correct for what sunpro
does, then yes.

However, I still think that we should give some extra room (maybe 10k)
for the installer's site-init.el.  I agree with everyone else who says
that the casual installer should not have to know about puresize.

-- 
Colin

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