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From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGkyLBsoQiAbJEJDTkknGyhC?= / MORIOKA Tomohiko <morioka@jaist.ac.jp>
To: Oscar Figueiredo <Oscar.Figueiredo@di.epfl.ch>
cc: XEmacs Beta Mailing List <xemacs-beta@xemacs.org>,
        Shuhei KOBAYASHI <shuhei-k@jaist.ac.jp>
Subject: Re: State of VM + XEmacs/Mule 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:42:15 +0100."
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>>>>> In <9702101342.AA15527@lspsun16.epfl.ch> 
>>>>>=09"Oscar" =3D Oscar Figueiredo <Oscar.Figueiredo@di.epfl.ch> wrote:

Oscar> >>>>> "Martin" =3D=3D Martin Buchholz <mrb@Eng.Sun.COM> writes:

Martin>> Here's a suggested way to test XEmacs 20.0 with tm-vm:

Martin>> Start XEmacs.  (better if can set LANG=3Dja, but OK if not).
Martin>> Eval
Martin>> (set-language-environment 'japanese)
Martin>> or use the Options menu.

Martin>> Compose a Japanese message by copying the text from some
Martin>> Japanese file, say mule-doc/X11.jp.  No need to input it
Martin>> yourself.  Put some Japanese text both in the Subject header
Martin>> and in the body.  Make sure your message `looks' Japanese,
Martin>> not Latin-1, before sending.  Send yourself the message via
Martin>> vm-mail.  It should look the same when you receive the
Martin>> message.  Save it in a folder.  Save & Quit VM.  Start VM
Martin>> again. View the same message you saved in the folder.  Does
Martin>> it still look identical?

  In addition, mule-doc/demo is a good sample of multilingual text.

  By the way,

=09(set-language-environment 'japanese)

defines priority of coding-system about automatic-conversion, silly
setting

=09(set-charset-registry 'ascii "JISX0201")

(it is a factor I despaired of XEmacs/mule :-P),
default-file-coding-system and some broken settings, however these
setting (should) have nothing to compose multilingual message by MIME
MUA.  Such kind of locale setting is for localization, not for
multilingual.  Multilingual environment should not be depended on
localization. (Of course MIME MUA should support traditional non-MIME
message including non-ASCII characters so tm (emu) uses a variable
`default-mime-charset', however it is only for non-MIME message (and
extended MULE characters))

  According to Shuhei, current VM does not have multilingual composer,
in fact Oscar's sample is not encoded by iso-2022-jp, it is encoded by
euc-jp.  In other words, it is depended on language environment for
Japanese EUC.  (EUC-JP is not used in mail and news, so it is bad
setting for network.  In MULE 2.3, it is defined in
program-coding-system, however we can not use in XEmacs/mule 20.0
because coding-system mechanism for process does not work in
XEmacs/mule 20.0)

  Anyway tm-edit can compose multilingual message.  C-c C-x C-t
separates text parts.  C-c C-x C-p is available to check message.  Try
C-x m (M-x mail) or M-x mh-smail.

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MORIOKA Tomohiko <morioka@jaist.ac.jp>
        Japan advanced Institute of Science and Technology, Hokuriku
                Asahi-dai, Tatsu-no-kuchi ch=F4, Nomi, Ishikawa, Japan
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