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From: Bob Weiner <weiner@infodock.com>
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In-reply-to: <y9lybc83utj.fsf@modas.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> (sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de)
Subject: Re: kotl-mode broken in Hyperbole distributed with XEmacs 20.1-b3

All of the following may safely be ignored by Hyperbole users, now that
a patch for this problem has been sent to the list.

>>>>> "MS" == Michael Sperber <sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> writes:

   MS> Let me explain this again (in chronological order):

   MS> Way back, Chuck merged Hyperbole 4.01 into the XEmacs 19.14 betas, I
   MS> believe.  This was Bob's "going-away" present, and he dropped off the
   MS> net and the list for a while.

I did drop off the list.  I stayed steady at 4 Internet e-mail addresses,
however (one was dropped and a new one added).  My net access was weak
for awhile.

   MS> Mats discovered that kotl-mode in 4.01 was unusable under XEmacs and
   MS> submitted the patch.  Nobody listened, if I remember correctly.

There was another problem with the Kviewspecs not showing up in the modeline
that was fixed by the recent Hyperbole release.

   MS> I resubmitted the patch.  Since Bob wasn't on the net at the time,
   MS> Chuck put in the fix.  That's why it's in 19.14.

   MS> The fix apparently never made it back to Bob, which is why it isn't in
   MS> the post-4.01 Hyperbole releases.

   MS> Consequently, when Steve upgraded Hyperbole, the fix was lost, and
   MS> kotl-mode was broken again.

Right.

   MS> If the fix isn't in 4.022 (or whatever the new version is), either
   MS> somebody needs to find out why it's really broken and provide a
   MS> better-founded patch, otherwise it should be in---without it,
   MS> kotl-mode is *broken* and *unusable*.

Done.

Bob

