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From: Kyle Jones <kyle_jones@wonderworks.com>
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Subject: Re: dired/gnus on a tty
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Hrvoje Niksic writes:
 > Sudish Joseph <sj@eng.mindspring.net> writes:
 > 
 > > > This is obviously wrong, as we might implement the menus on tty-s.
 > > 
 > > It _isn't_ wrong, it _will be_ wrong when we implement menus on
 > > ttys.
 > 
 > This is exactly the kind of reasoning that breaks a load of stuff in a
 > project the size of XEmacs.  IMHO all of our code should be as general
 > as possible *now*, so that the new things (like tty-menus) can be
 > implemented seamlessly.  So, testing for `console-on-window-system-p'
 > is, and always will be, *wrong*.  It just happens to "work" at the
 > moment.

Since you're full of righteous fire on this issue, how about
coding up the device checking functions so they can be added to
20.2?  Don't laugh, frustration/righteous fire/interest is
usually how I end up writing patches.  Light a candle or curse
the darkness.

