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From: Peter Pezaris <pez@dwwc.com>
To: Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com>
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>>>>> "sb" == Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:
>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Buchholz <mrb@eng.sun.com> writes:
>>>>> "Pez" == Peter Pezaris <pez@dwwc.com> writes:

    Pez> I would vote for changing it.  I would also vote
    Pez> for including a EOF delimiter by default.

    Martin> Referring to the value of
    Martin> require-final-newline, right?

    sb> I thought he meant a tag like the ``[END]'' in VAX
    sb> Editors.

Yes, this is what I meant.  From the FAQ:

Q5.3.7 Can I have the end of the buffer delimited in some
way? Say, with: [END] ?

(make-annotation "[END]" (point-max) 'text (current-buffer))

Note that you might want to put this in a hook. You might
also need: 

(require 'annotations)

since make-annotation is not defined by default. 

    Martin> I think require-final-newline should default
    Martin> to something other than nil.  Very few people
    Martin> edit files which require the final newline to
    Martin> be MISSING.

Setting this to 'ask would be about as far as *I* would go
with it.  Otherwise you might have some very surprised and
annoyed newbies.

-Pez

