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From: John Turner <turner@xdiv.lanl.gov>
To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org
Subject: faces (HyperApropos, W3, Gnus)
Reply-To: turner@lanl.gov

Here's another couple of msgs from early in the 19.15 cycle.

Just wondering if anything's changed.

In a related issue, something I've never understood is why Gnus has so
dang many faces, and has color names in the face names, etc.  It sure
makes edit-faces weird.  Anyway...

--
John A. Turner         |"Music is the cup which holds the wine of silence;
Los Alamos Natl. Lab.  |  sound is that cup, but empty;
e-mail: turner@lanl.gov|    noise is that cup, but broken."
                       |                        - Robert Fripp

This is an RFC 1153 digest.
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:28:05 -0600
From: John Turner <turner@gielgud.lanl.gov>
To: xemacs-beta-discuss@cs.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: face-differs-from-default-p
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Doug Keller writes:
 > In HyperAppropos it sets the documention face foreground to firebrick,
 > I would like it to be the same face as my default face.
 > 
 >   (copy-face 'default 'documentation)
 > 
 > This does not work because HyperAppropos calls
 > face-differs-from-default-p, if nil then it sets the face to
 > firebrick.  How can I trick face-differs-from-default-p so it thinks
 > the face is different?

Oh man, I've been bugged by this as well.  I go into Edit Faces,
change the documentation face, and Save Options, only to find
firebrick again (which looks really great against a gray20 background)
next time I use HyperApropos.  Been meaning to ask what was going on
there and how I could fix it...

+-----------------------+--------------------------------------------------+
|John A. Turner         |"Music is the cup which holds the wine of silence;|
|Los Alamos Natl. Lab.  |  sound is that cup, but empty;                   |
|e-mail: turner@lanl.gov|    noise is that cup, but broken."               |
|                       |                        - Robert Fripp            |
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Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 02:34:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dave Mason <dmason@plg.uwaterloo.ca>
To: xemacs-beta-discuss@cs.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: face-differs-from-default-p
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	<199607020428.WAA11945@gielgud.lanl.gov.xdiv>
X-Face: %Q_F^9R-:'3MM7eZ6@E.x@f\*bgatzGv-8d%I~L[p^.F)3QF{kq\UTsu|e#?)3FPwJNvPPB
 !s*He|-*M^p*~bh"Nywm5NLL\\Rl3r(hWHY*F:$/RdKV*bS";n&#\Ov@*=]mu\}6tP<lkW*7FT|:Dm
 9ejO^{)GHJdPQaa"C\<Ak`K27?328'V(u*|jAEZR9-z!o\^j:Cb&*tx_9\KbXD*2
X-Lines: 19

John Turner writes:
> Oh man, I've been bugged by this as well.  I go into Edit Faces,
> change the documentation face, and Save Options, only to find
> firebrick again (which looks really great against a gray20 background)

Well, gee, you should *really* like it on a monochrome display if you
use black background, because firebrick maps to black and is a
*little* hard to read!

My workaround is to:
  (require 'hyper-apropos)
  (set-face-foreground 'documentation "White")
  (set-face-foreground 'hyperlink "White")

Similar things happen in W3.  But I don't have a work-around.  I sent
mail to Bill Perry, but no response.  And I can't even figure out what
font w3 uses (for links), because it doesn't show up in editfaces.

../Dave


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