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From: Jens Lautenbacher <jens@lemming0.lem.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Date: 24 Mar 1997 14:04:41 +0100
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sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:

> >>>>> "Jens" == Jens Lautenbacher <jens@lemming0.lem.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes:
> 
> Jens> Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:
> 
> >> sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
> >> 
> >> > Problem is that the setup is so ridiculously complex that it's
> >> > practically impossible to reproduce.
> >> 
> >> I think I see what is going on (this is pure guesswork, as I am not
> >> intimate with efs).  As efs uses pty-s to open the FTP client, the
> >> client is "sure" that it has the terminal for itself.
> >> 
> >> On any Unix other than Linux, this wouldn't be a problem.  But on
> >> Linux, the default FTP client is a "nice" version[1] that uses GNU
> >> readline.  Of course, it sends all kinds of control sequences that
> >> destroy pure efs.
> >> 
> >> [good stuff deleted] 
> >> 
> >> I hope this helped.
> 
> This was my guess, too, when I heard about readline ftp's.  This is
> evil, evil, evil.  If you want a readline ftp, get ncftp, or use
> comint, or something.  This kind of stuff is one of the reasons I hate 
> Linux, too.
> 
> Jens> But why does it work when I start XEmacs from an xterm or a window
> Jens> manager menu or something like that?
> 
> Jens> It will not work even on the same machine in only one case: 
> 
> Jens> rsh to localhost (or any other linux machine), <export display and any
> Jens> other needed stuff>, start XEmacs from this shell window.
> 
> Jens> WHY WHY WHY WHY <schnief>
> 
> Different settings of TERM?

As I've just written: No. and on the other hand if you look at my rsh
scripts you'll notice that I start a login shell. I tried every
combination of rsh/with-without login-shell, and normal 
xterm with-without login-shell. The xterm "normal" xterm will
work. Rsh's xterm won't.

      jtl

