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>>>>> "David" == David Moore <dmoore@ucsd.edu> writes:

....
David> <serious suggestion mode>
David> Maybe the traffic in the group is too high for people to keep track of
David> these things.

Sometimes, yes it is...

David> Also, I know I sometimes see posts about problems, but I don't
David> think they affect me, and suddenly 3 days later I have the same
David> problem.  And by then, the original report is usually gone from
David> my mind (and maybe even my news spool).

David> Maybe an xemacs-beta-fixed or -faq list which Steve could send messages
David> like `Gnus: xref or buffer selection error' and say that the this bug
David> has been fixed in 5.4.37 which will be in the next beta.  Or could mail
David> out `VM: takes a long time' and include Kyle's post about it being
David> normal.  Or `efs load error' and include my work around and info that
David> it's hopefully fixed in the next beta.

David> The low traffic on that list, combined with hopefully more obvious
David> subjects might help?

Or how about a searchable archive of both beta & beta-discuss mailing
lists accessable from the XEmacs Beta Zone web page?  This could be
useful in cutting down multiple posts, finding those lost reports and
patches, etc.

Chuck

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Charles K. Hines <chuck_hines@vnet.ibm.com>
IBM Logic Synthesis Developer [BooleDozer (TM)]
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         "Go back to sleep, Chuck.  You're just havin' a nightmare
             -- of course, we ARE still in Hell." (Gary Larson)
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