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From: Kyle Jones <kyle_jones@wonderworks.com>
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Subject: Re: 20.2b2 balloon-help broken?
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John A. Turner writes:
 > Neal Becker writes:
 > 
 >  > Thanks.  The patch worked.  Also, (load "balloon-help") without the
 >  > patch worked.
 > 
 > Can someone explain how Kyle's package and the new C balloon-help are
 > related, and the recommended way to turn either/both/whatever on?
 > 
 > I used to do (require 'balloon-help) to turn on Kyle's, but I have
 > that commented out because of the crashes related to frame-icon (yes,
 > I know that hasn't been fixed; I'm just curious as to how the new C
 > stuff fits in).

My balloon-help and Doug Keller's C code balloon-help are
unrelated at present.  The way to turn on balloon-help is

(require 'balloon-help)
(balloon-help-mode 1)

I haven't even looked at Doug's code yet, so I can't say what I'm
going to do in relation to it.  My current mental leaning is to
roll balloon-help.el into the mouse-track/toolbar code farm and
drop balloon-help as a separate package.  The code would drive
Doug's C balloon help under X, and the "heavy frame" balloon help
could be used where you wanted device type independence.

