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Cc: Steve Baur <steve@xemacs.org>
Subject: Re: BS/DEL code changes are not complete
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From: Gary.Foster@Corp.Sun.COM (Gary D. Foster)
Date: 16 Jun 1997 11:24:59 -0700
In-Reply-To: Steven L Baur's message of "15 Jun 1997 21:57:12 -0700"
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>>>>> "sb" == Steven L Baur <steve@xemacs.org> writes:

    sb> I took a chance and let my system get reconfigured so the left
    sb> arrow key above the Enter key now returns Backspace instead of
    sb> Delete, and I hate it.

    sb> Gnus is broken (B DEL) doesn't work anymore.

This is an easy thing to fix, but I've kept my paws off the gnus
bindings.  I'm not sure what 'B DEL' is supposed to do, since C-h c
tells me that B is 'browse foreign groups' and not a prefix key,
though.  If you tell me exactly what you're expecting B DEL to do,
I'll see about making it do that.

FWIW, if you configure the arrow key above your enter key to emit a
backspace keysym, then any bindings to 'DEL' should *not* be affected.
If you're expecting something from what was originally bound to \177,
it should now be on your backspace key and _won't_ be automatically
duplicated on your DEL key.  As I said, it's an easy fix to bind it
also to DEL but it requires two bindings where it previously got
covered by one "\177" entry.  I had to do the same thing in VM to bind
both backspace and delete to what was originally just bound to "\177".
I guess the short version of that statement is "DEL is no longer BS".
If you expect DEL to perform a function, it has to be _explicitly_
bound and not bound as a "side effect" any more.

    sb> The minibuffer is broken, I'm getting help after hitting the
    sb> left-arrow key above enter in various places.

This is not right (duh...).  Can you give me reproducible details (X
mode/tty mode, exactly what you did, etc) so that I can duplicate this 
and fix it?  I would also like to know *exactly* what keysyms are
emitted by the relevant keys so I can set my system up to duplicate
it.  Thanks!

-- Gary F.


