From rec.games.pinball Wed Jul 28 09:37:19 1993 Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball Path: a2i!sgiblab!darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!raistlin!hare.udev.cdc.com!sjc From: sjc@hare.udev.cdc.com (Steven J Craig) Subject: Re: Pinball Expo. & Tour (Whoops!) Organization: Control Data systems Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 04:25:42 GMT Message-ID: Keywords: Expo Sender: usenet@raistlin.udev.cdc.com (News poster) Lines: 73 Status: R It turns out I was WRONG! Bzzzzed. Next contestant please. The tour is on Thursday and not Tuesday as I stated (and bitched about) earlier. Sorry about that. Can someone else post the phone numbers, cost, and such? Here is the schedule as I received it. Thursday, September 9: 9:00am-5:00pm Exhibitor setup in grand ballroom 9:00am-12:00pm Resistration in Foyer 1:00pm Bus Departs for Alvin G. & Co. Pinball Mfg. Facility 1:30pm Tour Alvin G. & Co. Pinball Factory 3:30pm Tour wrap up 4:00pm Alvin G. & Co. Solid State System 4:30pm Learn how to play pinball Lyman Sheets & Rick Stetta will be a couple of the masters showing us the moves for this event! 6:00pm Exhibit Hall opens. Flip Out 93 Begins Art Gallery opens for viewing 12:00mid Exhibit hall closes Thursday bight at the movies Friday, September 10: 8:00am Opening remarks 8:15am Cabinet Restoration Tips 9:00am The Evolution of pinball 10:00am Pinball art 10:45am 56 things you need to know to fix your pinball machine This is done by Tim Arnold and is a MUST in my opinion! 1:15pm The pinball game show 2:00pm The making of Twilight Zone Another must see will Pat Lawlor and his crack dev. team. 3:00pm How to market used games to the public 4:00pm Design a pinball machine Last years theme was "Monopoly" by yours truly! What will this year bring? Hmmmmm. 5:30pm Exhibit hall opens. Flip Out 93 continues 12:00mid Exhibit hall closes. Friday night at the movies. Saturday, September 11: 9:00am US Amusement Auction Registration 10:00am Exhibit hall opens. Flip Out 93 continues 10:00am US Amusement Auction Begins 1:30pm Pinball: History, Art, and Technology 3:30pm Pinball author, artist and designer autograph session This is another cool event to get your favorite flyer signed by the artist and/or designer! 6:00pm Exhibit hall closes. flip Out Preliminaries end. 7:30pm Cocktail hour. (Finally!) 8:30pm Banquet with special guest speaker Alvin Gottlieb 10:30pm Exhibit hall reopens. 12:00mid Exhibit hall closes. Sunday, September 12: 10:00am Exhibit hall opens. 11:00am Flip Out 93 Finals Begin 4:00pm Pinball Expo 93 officially closes. Later, -Steve -- +---- Steven J. Craig "Hail! Hail!...Ra Ra Ra" Control Data Systems Inc. -Pharaoh M/S ARH215 VOICE: (612) 482-4705 4201 North Lexington Avenue FAX: (612) 482-4455 Arden Hills, Minnesota 55126 e-mail: sjc@impulse.udev.cdc.com From rec.games.pinball Mon Aug 2 00:01:05 1993 Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball Path: a2i!sgiblab!darwin.sura.net!udel!rochester!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!dstewart From: dstewart+@cs.cmu.edu (David B Stewart) Subject: Re: Expo tournament? Message-ID: Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: ius4.ius.cs.cmu.edu Organization: The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University References: Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 18:14:52 GMT Lines: 64 Status: R In article jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes: >I got my expo information yesterday, however, it's not real clear how the >Flip Out tournament works. Is the idea that up until 6 pm Saturday it's a >free for all and after 6pm the highest scores on the tournament machines >are finalists (i.e. 1 finalist per different game)? Is there a semi-final >round? How many people make it into the finals (semi-finals)? Are the >prizes for 2nd, 3rd, etc.? Is it safe to presume that the Williams and >Bally machines are Indiana Jones and Judge Dread? What are DE, Premier and >Alvin G's machines? Here is how last year's tournament worked. There were 20 Cue Ball Wizards in an area. You pay $5.00 for 2 games, and you play those 2 games one of the CBW's that is not already being used. To qualify, all you need is one high score. Each of the 2 games are scored independently, and you can reenter as often as you liked. To qualify, your highest score must be one of the top 16 scores. I believe that women and men all compete together, but there are additional prizes for the top two women even if they don't make it into the top 16 overall. What I do not like about this format is that someone with lots of money has an advantage over others, as they can just keep retrying until they get a score that is high enough. Compare this to something like IFPA where everyone can only enter once per division, and if you don't play well, you are out; i.e. you can't buy your way back in. Last year, it took about 1B on CBW (extra balls were disabled) to qualify, and I think the high score was 2.3B. The top 8 go into the A division, and the positions 9-16 go to the B division. The A division competes for the top prize (i.e. the pinball machine) while the B division competes for some other consulation prize. The finals matches were played on different machines. However, there is no guarantee of which machine it will be (and you don't know before hand so nobody is spending all day practicing on it) and you can't be guaranteed it is a new game. For example, look at the Phoenix Expo where the finals were held on a game in which the last digit of your score was non-zero! Unlike IFPA and PAPA, the tournament at the Expo is an added attraction, and not the primary focus of the expo. Therefore they choose this very simple format of high single-game score wins. If you are looking for a 'good' tournament, this is not it. But the expo is great for everything else, including seeing machines both new and old, some great seminars by some great people, and a social gathering with all of the big names in pinball. >By the way, I didn't see anyone mention it so I'll note that according to >the brochure the winner of the tournament gets a new Alvin G. and Co. >pinball machine and NOT a DataEast machine as reported several weeks ago by >several people. The original advertisements (those given out at IFPA) advertised that the prize was a Data East machine, and the tour was of the Data East plant. Now that the tour is of the AG plant, and the winner gets a new AG machine, I would strongly suspect that the tournament machine is the newest AG machine. (What is AG's latest release?) ~dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- David B. Stewart - email: The Robotics Institute snail mail: - ECE Dept., Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 Current Projects: - Chimera 3.0 Real-Time Operating System - Reconfigurable Robotic and Automation Systems From rec.games.pinball Mon Aug 2 00:03:15 1993 Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball Path: a2i!sgiblab!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mdisea!mothost!white!sapphire.rtsg.mot.com!earl From: earl@rtsg.mot.com (Brent R. Earl) Subject: Re: Pinball Expo. & Tour (Whoops!) Message-ID: <1993Jul31.150008.17894@rtsg.mot.com> Keywords: Expo Sender: news@rtsg.mot.com Nntp-Posting-Host: marble Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group References: Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 15:00:08 GMT Lines: 13 Status: R Okay, rooms at the hotel... Ramada Hotel O'Hare, Mannheim and Higgins Rd. Rosemont, IL 60018. (708) 827-5131 I can't seem to find an 800 number, try 800 555 1212 (toll free information). Tell them that the rooms are for Pinball Expo '93, Sept 9-12 Now the fun bit, tariffs: $75 one bed $160 one bedroom suite $75 two bed $215 two bedroom suite $10 additional for roll-a-away (based on availablity) Rates do not include tax. Check in time 4pm, check out 12 noon. From rec.games.pinball Mon Aug 2 00:03:43 1993 Path: a2i!sgiblab!swrinde!gatech!psuvax1!rutgers!att-out!cbnewsd!cbnewsc!cbfsb!cbnewsf.cb.att.com!yyz From: yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons) Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball Subject: Re: Pinball Expo. & Tour (Whoops!) Keywords: Expo Message-ID: Date: 31 Jul 93 17:47:57 GMT References: Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com Organization: AT&T Lines: 74 Status: R In article sigma@rahul.net (Kevin Martin) writes: >In dstewart+@cs.cmu.edu (David B Stewart) writes: >>Robert Berk, Expo Chairman, 1-800-323-3547 > > >I guess what I'm saying is that if you're on the net, you might want to >wait. I'll post all of the details I receive (a schedule has already been >posted)... what I'm especially interested in is information about rooms at >the hotel! Kevin and other interested- Here is the Expo information I got in the mail: I'll forgo the schedule since that was posted. I'm paraphrasing this since I don't feel like typiing in all the info. Pinball Expo '93 art contest The pinball '93 art contest will have the approach of a country fair with ribbons, honorable mentios, etc. All work will be on display at the exhibit hall. Pinball Expo '93 souvenir guide The expo '93 souvenir will be published for distribution at the show. It will include: A listing of all coin-op publications and addresses, A listing of all pinball manufactors with addresses, a listing of all exhibiters, etc. Restoration Contest This years show will have a contest to determine who has the best restored pinball machine. Fifty dollars to winner. Flip out logo contest Winning logo must be sent by August 6th, winner gets fifty dollars. Bring your games to the show Five dollar rebate for each game brought. Limited to first 100 games. No bang backs please (just seeing if anyone read this far) Pinball auction Saturday Sept 11th at 10:00. 250 machines go up for bid. Hotel information Ramada Hotel O'hare. Free shuttle to the airport Rates are as follows: $75 - one bed $75 - two beds $160 - one bedroom suite $215 - two bedroom suite $10 - for each rollaway bed needed Phone (708) 827-5131 or write Ramada Inn Mannheim And Higgins Rd. Rosemont, Il 60018 Expo Costs General admission $60 Includes all seminars, hall addmission, factory Tour, and two entries in Flipout tourney, does not include banquet Advance admission $80 Everything listed above plus banquet Dates for registration are by Sept 1st, after this date costs go up to $75 and $95. In addition to this you can buy extra banquet tickets for $40, pinball tour at $20, exhibit hall only at $20 for 4 days, and seminars at $20 each. Hope this helps everyone, see you at expo. Don Coons dwc@wnb3b2.att.com