Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:50:24 -1000 From: gengvall@aol.com (G Engvall) Message-Id: <4ghhpg$4fh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: templates In article <4gfptp$s3q@hplvec.lvld.hp.com>, Bob Liggett writes: >What is the best material for templates. Depends a lot on what you are cutting with... I have a very cold hot knife, melts ripstop just fine, but doesn't burn my posterboard templates. Posterboard is easily available almost anywhere. Mine costs 25 cents a sheet, so it is a great way to "try" a pattern. I have posterboard templates that I have made dozens of the same kite with. If you are using a rotary cutter, it tends to reduce the size of a posterboard template with each use. Masonite or Formica are preferrable for rotary cutters, and the locals report some fari success using them with hot knives. good luck gary = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:27:09 -1000 From: andreas.hardtung@recklinghausen.netsurf.de (Andreas Hardtung) Message-Id: <4ggguc$cfj@ra.ins.de> Organization: Drachenzauber Subject: Re: templates Bob Liggett wrote: >What is the best material for templates. I wouldn't build more than 12 of a >design, most of the time it would be 1 or 2. >Thanks in advance, Hi Bob. I use pasteboard (ca. 1mm) 120x80cm bought from a bookbinder's shop. If i will make more than some pices i protect the templates by stripes of copper from a tiffany shop. Andreas = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:56:57 -1000 From: Bob Liggett Message-Id: <4gfptp$s3q@hplvec.lvld.hp.com> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Subject: templates What is the best material for templates. I wouldn't build more than 12 of a design, most of the time it would be 1 or 2. Thanks in advance, = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:56:20 -1000 From: jcampbell3@msmail3.hac.com (Campbell, James E) Message-Id: Organization: HAC Subject: Re: templates In article <4gfptp$s3q@hplvec.lvld.hp.com>, Bob Liggett wrote: > What is the best material for templates. I wouldn't build more than 12 of a > design, most of the time it would be 1 or 2. > > Thanks in advance, Since I have quite a bit of woodworking tools, I most frequently use 1/4" tempered hardboard for my templates. I also use 1/4" plate aluminum on some of the templates that I use over and over again. This is probably an over kill for what you need with regard to quantities of kites being cut >From a given set of jigs but it works well for my needs. There was some discussion on this topic a couple of months ago which you may be able to dig up from the archives. There were quite a number of creative suggestions for different template materials which may help you. Good luck. -- James E. Campbell (jcampbell3@msmail3.hac.com) Hughes Aircraft Company Leading Edge Kites = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:12:36 -1000 From: andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie) Message-Id: Organization: /usr/lib/news/organisation Subject: Re: templates These days, I use listing paper(!) I put the plan underneath the fabric and follow the line. I can follow more accurately and quickly with the knife than I could with a pencil. For ribs, I no-longer even hold the fabric down with anything - just smooth the 1/2oz Icarex with your hand and the static will hold it firm enough if you're careful. On the previous thread about hot-cutting - I regulate the temperature by sense of feel. At the right temperature, it glides smoothly. Andrew -- 9) Thou shalt not anchor thy power kite to the ground. This angers the gods greatly and they will smash thee to little pieces without mercy. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:52:08 -1000 From: griebeno@athena.mit.edu (Kai Griebenow) Message-Id: <4glr08$b90@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Subject: Re: templates The most easy way to prefent templetes from being destroyed was posted by someone else a while ago on rec.kites: There is this tape they use for tiffany lamps - thin metall. That layered around the edges of the template and no hot cutting problems anymore. Happy Kiting kai Now just one question from me: Whoever it was who posted the tip, could you please mail me brand and source of that stuff. Or better post it? Please. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 07:52:03 -1000 From: kichiwa@eskimo.com (Mike Eason) Message-Id: Organization: Not Much! Subject: Re: templates In article <4gfptp$s3q@hplvec.lvld.hp.com>, liggett says... > >What is the best material for templates. I wouldn't build more than 12 of a >design, most of the time it would be 1 or 2. > >Thanks in advance, > I use matt-board almost exclusively, since I'm usually not making more than one to a few kites from a single design. However, I do have some patterns for fighter kites, one of which has had more than 60 kites cut >From it. I saturate just the edges of the matt-board pattern with spray varnish or acrylic lacquere. That seems to stop any seperation of the ply at the edges. I just recently hot cut 70 panels for the faces of an 8.02M^2 Sputnik, with a sort-of-log-cabbin-like graphic accross a diagonal band (that's why so many pieces), using an uncoated matt-board pattern. The corners started rounding a little near the end but had no effect on the hot cut pieces since you naturally square the corners by extending the tip of the hot cutter past the end at the corners anyway. And, matt board is relatively cheap! $2.50 to 5.00 US per sheet, 32x40 or 30x40 inches. I get the cheapest I can find. Watshiwa cheap-patterns kichi, Mike -- Mike Eason or Media Specialist: Everett Community College, Everett, WA NL Editor: Snohomish County Incredible Flying Individuals, SCI-FI voice:206-334-0362 H. :206-388-9117 W. fax:206-388-9144 Washington State Sport Kite Championships, 9/28-29/96 Whidbey Island Kite Festival, Ft. Casey Conf. Center, 9/28-29/96 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 01:16:03 -1000 From: gengvall@aol.com (G Engvall) Message-Id: <4gms1j$qdj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: templates In article <4glr08$b90@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, griebeno@athena.mit.edu (Kai Griebenow) writes: >Now just one question from me: Whoever it was who posted the tip, could you >please mail me brand and source of that stuff. Or better post it? Please. I didn't post it, but I found some two inch aluminum tape at Ocean State Job Lot that works OK. Same thing, just different. gary engvall = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:17:07 -1000 From: Chuck Meyers Message-Id: <4go9q3$4cj@frodo.smartlink.net> Organization: SmartLink.net Premier ISP 805-294-1273 Subject: Re: templates Bob Liggett wrote: >What is the best material for templates. I wouldn't build more than 12 of a >design, most of the time it would be 1 or 2. > >Thanks in advance, > I use the matt-boards also. If I'm going to use the pattern for more than a couple of kites, I use the silver air conditioner tape to go around the pattern. DON'T use the gaffers tape. The tape I use is silver and will not melt. Comes in a two inch wide roll. I cut the tape down the center. This will cover a lot of patterns. Thanks for all the help I received in the past from this newsgroup. Keep up the good work. Chuck Meyers = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:38:33 -1000 From: johann@digital.net (Theodore Wallace) Message-Id: <4gr9vp$o9l@ddi2.digital.net> Organization: Your Organization Subject: Re: templates In article <4glr08$b90@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, griebeno@athena.mit.edu says... >There is this tape they use for tiffany lamps - thin metall. That layered >around the edges of the template and no hot cutting problems anymore. >Now just one question from me: Whoever it was who posted the tip, could you >please mail me brand and source of that stuff. Or better post it? Please. >Hello All it was not me that posted about the metal tape or most likly it was metal foil like they us in Stain Glass.. That what it is called is foil availabe at Stain Glass supply house or mail order.. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =