Date:	Fri, 25 Jun 1993 17:04:16 -1000
From:	vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (VIC BLACKWELL)
Message-Id: <1993Jun25.220417.18527@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"
Subject: Re: Hawaiian Spinoff whiskers?

In article <1993Jun25.123411.18516@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (VIC BLACKWELL) writes:
> 
> I have a Hawaiian SpinOff in for refurbishing.  It looks like it will be 
> a rather straight forward job.  But something has me confused.  I thought
> the spin off is a design WITHOUT whiskers or standoffs.  The kite in the 
> shop is set up for whiskers on the spreader, but there is no sign of
> a way to attach the whiskers to the sail.  Any one have any ideas?
> 
Problem solved.  Originaly no spreader.   Someone started a mod but never
finished the job. Also never took back off what was installed.  
A real puzzler!

Thanks and hope no one went to any trouble to help figure this out.

Vic

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Date:	Fri, 25 Jun 1993 07:34:11 -1000
From:	vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (VIC BLACKWELL)
Message-Id: <1993Jun25.123411.18516@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"
Subject: Hawaiian Spinoff whiskers?

I have a Hawaiian SpinOff in for refurbishing.  It looks like it will be 
a rather straight forward job.  But something has me confused.  I thought
the spin off is a design WITHOUT whiskers or standoffs.  The kite in the 
shop is set up for whiskers on the spreader, but there is no sign of
a way to attach the whiskers to the sail.  Any one have any ideas?

Keep the ol lines tight,

Vic


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Date:	Sat, 26 Jun 1993 01:35:24 -1000
From:	jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka)
Message-Id: <20hc9s$ihr@umd5.umd.edu>
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Subject: Re: Hawaiian Spinoff whiskers?

Vic Blackwell wrote:

>> I have a Hawaiian SpinOff in for refurbishing.  It looks like it will be 
>> a rather straight forward job.  But something has me confused.  I thought
>> the spin off is a design WITHOUT whiskers or standoffs. 

He the wrote:

>Problem solved.  Originaly no spreader.   Someone started a mod but never
>finished the job. Also never took back off what was installed.  
>A real puzzler!

Somehow I missed that first post or I would have responded (perhaps Vic
cancelled it?  I notice it has the same posting date..)

In any event...  The Spin-Off *does* have stand-offs. I believe the '91
was the first model-year to incorporate 'em.  Recollection tells me
they're 19.25" from the spin, but I don't remember if that's along the
trailing edge or along a straight line between the spine and bottom
spreader connector along the leading edge.  I imagine Ron could give
a definitive answer, or someone with a post-'90 kite with a few minutes to
grab a measuring tape and see how far it is along the trailing edge to
that black dacron tab...

Stand-offs are very easy to add to any kite if you know where they belong
(which is to say that if we get a definitive answer as to where the
Spin-Off's belong, some of you who have an older kite may wish to try
adding them).  On other kites, though, it can be a long process of trial and
error to find the optimal placement.  Bad placement can ruin the way the
kite flies.

My personal favorite way to attach stand-offs is lifted from Dean Jordan and I
use it on all the kites I build.  One can buy a sort of clothing snap
at fabric stores which hammered into place.  The each 'side' of the snap
involves two pieces, and the kit comes with a plastic holder to line things
up before you hammer.  I first sew a small dacron reinforcement on the trailing
edge and then hammer on the female portion of the snap.  The male portion is
then superglued onto the stand-off, which is a 1/8" fiberglass stick (a size
which fits almost perfectly into the size snap that comes in the kit I use).

What are the advantages to having stand-offs?  The kite is easier to
self-launch, flies better in lower winds, flies better at the edges, is 
less likely to stall in more radical maneuvers, and is quieter (which many
will see as a deficiency...;-)

Jeff

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