From: xxltony@cts.com (Tony Lindsey)
Subject: Mac*Chat#094/30-Oct-95

Mac*Chat#094/30-Oct-95
======================

Welcome to Mac*Chat, the weekly electronic newsletter biased
  toward Mac users who are production-oriented professionals.  Other
  Mac users may find many, many items of interest as well.  I'd enjoy
  hearing your feedback and suggestions.  Unfortunately, due to the
  massive numbers of messages I get every day, I can't guarantee
  a personal reply.

  Tony Lindsey, <xxltony@cts.com>.
  <http://www.cts.com/browse/xxltony>
  3401-A55 Adams Avenue
  San Diego, CA 92116-2429

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Any [comments in brackets] are by Tony Lindsey.

Topics:
Highlights Of This Issue
Editor's Comments
Correction
Mac*Chat Videotapes - Whattya Think?
Guy Kawasaki's New Venture - Read This And Act Promptly!
Tech Tool 1.08 Is Available Now
Ram Doubler 1.6 Updater
Quicken Free Help Online
Good Web Site For Font Piggies
Publicity For New Web Sites
What I'm Looking For
Consulting Question
Tony's Answer
Technical Section Starts... Here
Tips For America Online Users - Creating Web Pages, Part One
Applescript & Other Scripting Tips
Legalisms
Free Subscriptions To This Newsletter

Highlights Of This Issue
------------------------
  I mention my MacWorld Expo plans, ask about hooking the 9500 to
  MacTCP or a workable alternative, conduct a simple survey, rave
  about the best, new answer to all the Microsoft/Anti-Mac crapola,
  rave about the newest TechTool, point out the updater for RAM
  Doubler, point where online help can be found for Quicken, Dave
  Kramer directs our attention to the Letraset site, I mention a
  few great methods for folks who want to promote their new Web
  sites, I ask for help creating more articles, a question about
  ethics is asked and answered, I explain the step-by-step method
  of uploading and downloading some AOL Web pages I created for
  tutorial purposes, and we learn of many new resources for folks
  who want to learn about AppleScript and other scripting tools.

Editor's Comments
-----------------
  By Tony Lindsey <xxltony@cts.com>

  I'm going to be at the MACWORLD Expo from January 9-12, 1996,
  held at Moscone Center in San Francisco.  I've been asking
  various folks how to get onto any of the discussions, Q&A and/or
  panels.

  <http://www.mha.com/macworldexpo>

  I'm finally ready to peek my head out of my home-office and meet
  the public.  I had a small taste of my new-found popularity when
  I attended an out-of-town Mac-consultant's dinner recently, and
  most of the people there were already subscribed to my newsletter
  and knew who I was - A very odd feeling.  I had a heck of a time
  keeping my head from getting swollen from all the nice things
  people were saying!

  I'm finally coming to grips with the idea that someone like me
  can be up on the dais with my heroes, such as Neil Shapiro, Danny
  Goodman, Adam Engst, Guy Kawasaki and the others.  They've become
  my good friends and peers in the last year, and I can't think of
  nicer people.  I'd really like to meet them (and many of my
  readers) face-to-face!

  If you see me at the Expo and say howdy, I promise not to hug you
  unless you ask me to!  Otherwise, I'm available for hugs any
  time.  It's a Southern-California thing - I hope you
  understand...  I'm also up for firm-and-hearty handshakes and
  brisk nods, for folks with intimacy issues!

  -------

  I have a client who has a PowerMac 9500, and he wants to use
  either the older MacTCP or Open Transport to access the Internet
  through a modem.  I've been pulling my hair out trying to make
  the connections work - Who has some good tips for me?  I'm afraid
  to play with it, since I've heard of so many odd bugs.

Correction
----------
  By Ryan Soulier <rsoulier@teacherlink.ed.usu.edu>

  There was a typo in issue#93 of MacChat:

  <http://www-abs.apple.com-acse/>

  Should read

  <http://www-abs.apple.com/acse/>

  [Thanks, Ryan! He added quite a bit of nice things to say about
  Mac*Chat, which I deleted for space purposes.  I do that a lot,
  by the way... I always appreciate the kind words, though.]

Mac*Chat Videotapes - Whattya Think?
------------------------------------
  By Tony Lindsey <xxltony@cts.com>

  I have a special request for my readers...

  I'm being asked to make a series of videotapes for the USA (and
  elsewhere) that would be a visual version of Mac*Chat.  I'd
  demonstrate WHY people would want to use various parts of the
  Internet and what it can do for them.  This would be in the form
  of a series, allowing me to show the nicest new stuff out there
  as it comes up.

  In order for me to attract video-publishers, I need to have some
  numbers to throw at them.  It's that whole "business pitch" thing.

  So, here's the request - If you think you would theoretically
  like to buy an inexpensive, hour-and-a-half-long video that is
  extremely non-technical and visually-oriented, please send e-mail
  to me at <xxltony@cts.com> and put the word "Video" into the
  Subject line.

  The deadline for this informal survey is November 12, 1995.

  **I WILL NOT BE USING THIS FOR JUNK MAIL.**  You have my word of
  honor.  Here's what will happen:  The messages will be
  automatically shunted into a storage area on my computer.  Once
  the deadline is past, I'll open the storage area, count the
  number of messages and then delete them.  I'm hyper-sensitive to
  your need for privacy (and entirely too well-known to survive as
  a weasel), so please trust me on this.

  I'd deeply appreciate your help!  It would make it easier for me
  to keep Mac*Chat ad-free.

Guy Kawasaki's New Venture - Read This And Act Promptly!
--------------------------------------------------------
  By Tony Lindsey <xxltony@cts.com>

  Here's a top-quality goodie... Pay attention!

  A few issues back, in the midst of all the Windows 95
  hype-o-rama, I was feeling peevish and put-upon. I felt I was
  getting a faceful of Anti-Mac Bigots making fun of me and my
  readers just because we prefer Macintoshes.

  We now have big-gun ammunition against the people who lack
  Mac-courtesy.  The backlash has begun!

  Guy Kawasaki <kawasaki@eworld.com> is somebody I admire and
  trust.  He was the main Mac Evangelist who got people excited
  about the Mac in the early days.  He and Apple parted ways for a
  few years, but he never stopped evangelizing.  Apple finally got
  smart and hired him back.  He's now putting out an electronic
  newsletter full of Good News For Mac Fans.

  Yes, I know you're swamped with more reading-material than you
  can handle (me too), but this is the Real Stuff.  Do both steps
  listed below, right now:

  **Step One:**

  To subscribe to the MacWay mailing list...

  send an email message to

     <listproc@abs.apple.com>

  include in the body of the message the following text:

      SUBSCRIBE MACWAY and enter your real name

  ---------------------------

  The following step is highly recommended, since it prevents you
  from being flooded with little messages - It gathers them
  together into one LONG message.  It requires a separate e-mail
  message, though.

  **Step Two:**

  To turn on DIGEST mode...

  send an email message to:

       <listproc@abs.apple.com>

  include in the body of the message the string:

      SET MACWAY MAIL DIGEST

  ----------------------------

  Later on, if you wish to unsubscribe from the list...

  send an email message to:

     <listproc@abs.apple.com>

  include in the body of the message the string:

       UNSUBSCRIBE MACWAY

  --------

  Incidentally, I'm a fan of Guy's books (warm, friendly and
  enthusiastic), and I would normally tell you about a great book
  deal he's offering, but I'm not comfortable putting ads inside of
  Mac*Chat...  If you wish to know more, here's the contact info:

  <SchwartzBB@aol.com>

  <800-236-7323/800-231-7323 fax, 414-274-6406/414-274-6408 fax>

  <http://www.webcom.com/~fugitive/macway/testdriv.htm>

Tech Tool 1.08 Is Available Now
-------------------------------
  By Ken Workman <sbken@cruzio.com>

  An update on _TechTool_ just came to my attention.  It appears to
  have some very good additions to the

  1.0.6 version.

  [Thanks, Ken - I found it at

  </info-mac/cfg/tech-tool-108.hqx>

  and I found it to be a VERY juicy and worthwhile update to an
  essential (and FREE) power-tool...  In addition to the other two
  main functions of the older version (properly rebuilding the
  Desktop, zapping the Parameter RAM), it now contains a button
  called System Analyzer.  It checks to see if your system file is
  damaged, and it works with US and International versions of the
  System.  VERY nice for anyone who has endured the agony of
  "hammering in the dark" to try and nail down a nasty problem.]

Ram Doubler 1.6 Updater
-----------------------
  By Tony Lindsey <xxltony@cts.com>

  I found the newest updater for RAM Doubler at

  <http://www.pcworld.com/connectix/rdchoice.html>

  and, while you're in that neighborhood, you'll find info and
  updates for the QuickCam and Speed Doubler as well.

  The new version of RAM Doubler works with the newest Macs, and
  removes known bugs.  Personally, I'd MUCH rather have real RAM
  chips, but this is a good second-best!

Quicken Free Help Online
------------------------
  By Tony Lindsey <xxltony@cts.com>

  There is quite a bit of free help for Quicken users on the World
  Wide Web at:

  <http://www.intuit.com/quicken/technical-support/quicken/index.html>

  This is available for anyone who has Web access.

Good Web Site For Font Piggies
------------------------------
  By Dave Kramer <reeltime@omni.voicenet.com>
  <http://www.voicenet.com/~reeltime/>

  Letraset, the font and graphics company (which, incidentally,
  gives a great user group demo!), has a fantastic Web site at
  <http://www.letraset.com/letraset/>

  One of their incentives to get you to browse their online font
  catalog is a monthly treasure hunt. If you've got a good eye and
  can match the font they put on display, you can download it for
  free!! (Alternately, you can click on every font in their catalog
  until you find it... ;)

  Also, they have their Character Choose DA available for free
  download, and you can see samples of their textures collection,
  many of which would make tasty backgrounds for a
  Netscape-enhanced Web site.

Publicity For New Web Sites
---------------------------
  By Tony Lindsey <xxltony@cts.com>

  Once you have created a Web site that is acceptable to the
  general public, you may want lots of people stopping by.  These
  are a few good places to visit to help you get the word out - I
  suggest you visit them ALL:

  <http://www.tiac.net/users/samizdat/public.html>
  <http://www.submit-it.com/>
  <http://www.yahoo.com/>
  <http://wwwac.org/WebAnnounce/>

  And, of course - Add the Web site URL and your e-mail address to
  your business card and flyers!

What I'm Looking For
--------------------
  By tamye@nkn.net (Tamye Riggs)

  Great job on the newsletter. I really enjoy it, and I usually
  find at least one item that really helps or interests me. Keep up
  the good work. If you are looking for submissions, tell me what
  type of articles you're looking for and I would be happy to make
  an attempt to contribute. As an editor of many newsletters and
  magazines, I know how tough it can be to get good submissions,
  and on time! But you seem to be doing a great job, and if there
  is something I can contribute to the cause, I will gladly do it!

  [Thanks, Tamye - Here's my ideal...

  I'm thrilled by thoughtful, intelligent reviews of software,
  hardware or whatever from a subjective standpoint.  I let the
  industry magazines be objective - I want to know what it FEELS
  like to be living with something every day.  I want to know why I
  should delegate any of my precious time-slices to this e-mail
  program, that font utility or that new Web site.  I also like
  such reviews to be around 500 words at most.

  When I go to a friend's place and hear that they are using a new
  and wonderful utility, modem, cartridge drive or program, I don't
  want to look at a manual, I want to see it in action.  I want to
  get a feel for what it could do for me and my clients.  I want to
  know that it's being recommended by somebody who doesn't have a
  secret agenda for promoting it.  When you write words about
  something that pleases you, make me care about it.  Get me
  interested enough to ask around and find out more.

  If I got my wish, I'd get stuff like this every day, from ALL of
  my wisest readers.  It would sure ease my work-load!]

Consulting Question
-------------------
  By mcohen@nku.edu (Matthew I. Cohen) <http://www.nku.edu/~mcohen/>

  I am a mac professional myself - I manage the student labs at a
  local university, and I also do part-time mac consulting on the
  side.

  Usually, my clients are of the "on-switch 101" variety - new
  systems, new software, etc, and they just need some hand-holding.
  But my latest client has a pretty up-to-date system, and just
  purchased a 7500/100 to be a workstation, an ARA Fileserver, and
  a 24 fax server (receive and auto-print incoming faxes).

  Because of the system 7.5.2 conflicts and the general buggyness
  of fax software, we have been having some problems.  I just spent
  3 hours on this system, and there has not been any net change
  from when I arrived and when I left.  I ran all the disk fixes,
  installed updated extensions, etc, but nothing fixed his problem.
  I will be contacting tech support for the various software
  programs, and I'll be returning to implement their suggestions
  (if any) at a later time.  My question is this:  Do I charge him
  for this session?  I did work hard for 3 hours, but usually my
  maxim is no charge if I don't fix it.  This is a long-term
  client, who I will not lose either way, but I'm curious what you
  would do in such a situation.

Tony's Answer
-------------
  By Tony Lindsey <xxltony@cts.com>

  Personally, my policy is "I never punish the client for the
  problem."  I don't bill the client at all until the job is done.
  If it's not done, I don't get paid.  Painful, aggravating and
  costly, but honest.  I make up for the lack of money by making
  sure I get the karmic payback - I tell the client WHY I'm not
  charging them.  I have never, ever seen a client who didn't like
  to hear it.  Believe me, referrals come from such honesty, and
  even if they don't come from THIS situation, I like to tell
  prospective clients of my policy and give them examples.  Make
  hay from it, even if you don't make money.  Consider it tuition
  for your education.  I hate doing losing money on an unfinished
  job, but I sleep better.

  If I'm able to eventually fix the problem (even if it's months
  later, like when Apple releases a simple fix) I may adjust my
  later billing on a subsequent session to account for time spent
  _productively_, after asking permission to do so.

Technical Section Starts... Here
--------------------------------

Tips For America Online Users - Creating Web Pages, Part One
------------------------------------------------------------
  By Tony Lindsey <xxltony@cts.com>

  Well, this has been a heckuva project, taking me many days.  I've
  been working like a beaver, setting-up easy-to-copy-and-improve
  Web pages for my readers who are using America Online:

  <http://users.aol.com/xxltony/>

  Just as I get close to finishing, I find out that America Online
  is now promoting something called "NaviPress" as its new
  Mac-compatible Web-page designer.  To try your own copy, sign
  onto AOL and go to keyword "navisoft".  I wasn't able to test it
  (I'm way over deadline already) but I should warn you - re-start
  with the shift-key down (to turn off extensions) BEFORE you try
  to install it.  I may discuss it in a future issue.

  For the short term, I'm going to start posting what I have
  written already.  It may work better for you.

  ----------

  If you are a bright, inquisitive type who is good at figuring out
  how things work, you may want to copy what I've done, modify it
  to match your own needs, and then upload your OWN Web pages.
  I've listed the steps below.

  ------

  First, create a folder called "Web Page Project" and store it on
  the Desktop so you can find it later on.

  Now, let's go copy what Uncle Tony created:

  -------

  Here's how I inspect the contents of my own, private,
  2-megabyte-limit storage space on AOL:

  I sign onto AOL, then go to Internet Connection/FTP/Member
  FTPspace and read what it says.  Then go back one level to FTP,
  then to Go To FTP/Other Site, then type in
  "ftp://users.aol.com/xxltony/"

  Go ahead and do those steps.  Download each of the files you find
  in the /xxltony directory into the "Web Page Project" folder.  I
  created them so you'd be able to figure-out what I did.  The text
  files ending with ".html" can be opened in any text editor (such
  as TeachText or your word processor) and modified.  The GIF
  images are a nice bonus, showing me at home.

  ------

  Comparing the coded text and the final result:

  Open the text files and have them available so you can compare
  them to their final appearance on the Web:

  Start up AOL 2.6 or later, go to the Internet Connection, then to
  World Wide Web.  At the top of the browser page, you'll see the
  field called "Current URL:"

  Type in

http://users.aol.com/xxltony/

  and then hit Return.

  That brings you to my Web Page.  You'll want to save that
  location in your Hot List for later.  Pull down the Services
  menu, choose "Add to Main Hot List" and choose "Save" under the
  File menu.  Later on, if you want to get back there, pull down
  the Services menu, choose "Hot List/Main Hot List" and
  double-click on my page.

  ----

  Flip back and forth between the text files and my pages.  See how
  simple it would be to make changes to the text and create your
  OWN, simple variation.  There is no way you can harm anything by
  trying, so why not give it a shot?  (Just don't forget to save
  your files as text only).

  If you did create new variations for your own uses, you would
  need to upload them into your own directory.  Here's how to do it:

  -------

  If your screen name is "chuckie23" then sign onto AOL, then go to
  Internet Connection/FTP/Go To FTP/Other Site, then type in
  "ftp://users.aol.com/chuckie23/"

  Flip over to the Finder and click on the file you want to upload
  (such as a plain-text file called index.html), and choose "Copy"
  under the Edit menu.  This copies the file's name so you don't
  mis-type it.

  Go back to AOL and click "Upload."  Paste the file's name into
  the entry field.  Down below, you're given three choices.  If
  it's a text ".html" file, select the "ASCII/Text" choice, and
  then click the Continue/OK/Add buttons.  ONLY add the ONE
  "index.html" file and then click "Attach."

  That uploads the file.  If you are uploading another file, such
  as a graphic file stored in GIF format, you would have uploaded
  it as a Binary file, and added it all by itself.

  Those are the only two choices I use, personally.

  To snoop into chuckie23's Web page, you would go check out the
  following URL:

  <http://users.aol.com/chuckie23/>

  Next issue: Part Two!

Applescript & Other Scripting Tips
----------------------------------
  [In issue #93, I asked:

   What are the other recommended books and tutorials, very best
   utilities, add-ons and Internet sites for AppleScript fans and
   students?]

  ------

  By Kyle Johnson <pkscout@acpub.duke.edu>
  <http://www.duke.edu/~pkscout/>

  Check out ScriptWeb:

  <http://www.scriptweb.com/scriptweb>

  They have taken over the maintenance of the Scripting site from
  the University of Kansas.  There is information on how to
  subscribe to the Mac-Scripting list (which includes AppleScript,
  Frontier, MacPerl, etc) along with the digest of the mailing
  list.  They are also maintaining the FTP site at:

  <ftp://gaea.scriptweb.com/pub>

  This site contains various support files, demos, scripts, etc.
  for most of the major scripting languages.

  ------

  By George H Dick <napoleon@teleport.com>
  <http://www.teleport.com/~napoleon>

  Check out Dave Winer Frontier/Aretha environment! It's wonderful
  & free. You can write in AppleScript or Dave's Usertalk
  language....

  <http://www.hotwired.com/staff/userland/aretha/>

  -----

  By Paul L. Suh <plsuh@econ.sas.upenn.edu>

  The place for questions is definitely the MacScript mailing list.
  Beware that this is a very high bandwidth list, with about 500
  people.  However, there are some extremely knowledgeable people
  on the list (such as Jon Pugh, one of the original developers of
  AppleScript), and if they can't answer it, no one can.  [See
  below for subscription instructions]

  There is a CFD (call for discussion) floating around on the
  various Usenet comp.sys.mac.programmer.* groups towards a new
  group, comp.sys.mac.programmer.scripting or some such, but
  there's not much going on so far.  On Usenet, the places to ask
  questions seem to be comp.sys.mac.programmer.help and
  comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc.

  There's an official FAQ for AppleScript, but parts of it are out
  of date. It's in the process of being revised, bit by bit.

  <ftp://gaea.scriptweb.com/pub/applescript/00applescript.faq>

  There's an supposed to be an html version on the way, but it
  doesn't seem to be there just yet.

  -------

  By Paul Schinder <schinder@pjstoaster.pg.md.us>

  The authoritative books are:

  "AppleScript Language Guide", Addison-Wesley, ISBN 0-201-40735-3

  "AppleScript Finder Guide", Addison-Wesley, ISBN 0-201-40910-0

  and there's one on the Apple OSAX, but I balked at wasting any
  more money on Applescript.  Another Applescript resource everyone
  interested in the language should be away of is the MacScripting
  mailing list (send mail to listserv@listserv.dartmouth.edu with
  the body line "subscribe macscrpt your name here"), and Apple's
  applescript-users list has recently shown some signs of life
  after a long period of dormancy (I don't remember this one for
  sure, but I believe you send mail to listproc@abs.apple.com with
  subscribe applescript-users in the body)

  But I can't join in your paean to Applescript.  It's absolutely
  the worst, most frustrating language I've ever learned (and I've
  learned many).  Its failings, IMHO, are these: 1) only four built
  in commands. All the rest is done by OSAX and applications, and
  they sometimes don't work as documented in their Applescript
  dictionaries.  2) Applescript works by sending Apple events.
  *Never* expect one statement in an Applescript to "finish" before
  the next is executed.  For example, Jon Pugh, one of Apple
  script's founders, sent a simple script to the MacScripting list
  to move the desktop database files of all mounted volumes to the
  trash and tell the Finder to restart (the best way to rebuild the
  desktop).  I'm sure it works on his machine, but on mine, the
  Finder does the restart before it gets around to removing the
  files  from my Zip drive.  That kind of thing is common.  And
  Applescript is s..l..o..w.

  For my serious scripting needs, I use MacPerl.  I see Applescript
  as a bludgeon, and MacPerl as a scalpel.  There are some jobs a
  bludgeon can do.  I, for example, have AppleScripts to start up
  PPP and launch my usual TCP/IP apps, I have a script that creates
  custom icons and previews with JPEGview for all new files in
  chosen folders.  But for my other needs, where I need a language
  that will work as a programming language should and will work as
  documented, I use MacPerl.  MacPerl takes care of all of my
  mirroring (I have folders/directories on my Mac and Sun
  workstation that I keep in sync with Perl scripts on both ends),
  my Web mirroring needs (I run a script that mirrors a list of
  URL's locally), and even my downloading.  I spend a lot of time
  off line, and often find URL's that I'd like to see (for example,
  when reading Mac*Chat).  I cut them onto the clipboard, run a
  script which appends them to a file, and later, when I'm on line,
  drop the file onto a MacPerl droplet.  MacPerl grabs all of the
  URL's it can (the script can do http:, gopher:, and ftp:) and
  does appropriate transformations to what it grabs so I can
  view/use whatever it is later, either on or off line. Instead of
  a slow Applescript driving the usual TCP/IP apps, one application
  does the whole job at acceptable speed.  There are things that
  MacPerl can't do, of course (almost anything having to do with
  resource forks), and that's why I still use Applescript.

  One other thing people who have scripting jobs to get done on
  their Mac should be aware of is Frontier/Aretha, which has just
  recently been released as freeware by Dave Winer.  The URL is
  <http://www.hotwired.com/staff/userland/aretha/>.   I have had
  little time to play with it, but it seems like a far better
  designed (read: more like a real programming language), more
  feature filled language that can do anything Applescript can do.
  I only wish it had been freeware when I first decided to learn
  Applescript, because I think I would have been much happier with
  Frontier.

  -------

  By David E. Moore <moordi@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>

  AppleScript is something we've needed from day one.  OK, that's
  not true.  On day one we needed to learn how to use the mouse.
  But very shortly after that, (well, shortly after we had
  something more than MacWrite and MacDraw to work with) most of us
  wanted something like a batch programming language to automate
  things.  Those of us who've been around computers long enough to
  know just how revolutionary the Mac was (is?), also know that
  keyboards and batch programming are not evil things.  Now that
  the rest of the world has discovered that the mouse and graphical
  representation/organization of data are not evil things, it's
  good to see that Apple has finally provided a simple means to
  overcome what was once an inherent weakness of the Mac.

Legalisms
---------

Copyright 1989-1995 Tony Lindsey.

Whole issues of Mac*Chat may be copied freely, provided that
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   Mac*Chat may be reproduced for personal use or by nonprofit
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   publications if full credit is given. Please contact the
   editor <xxltony@cts.com> for any other publication requests.

This newsletter is intended purely as entertainment and free
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