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 From: Brigitte Mouchet <brigitte@wishbone.Corp.Sun.COM> 

 The following is an email interview of Scott McNealy for a Swedish
 journalist. I have been granted permission to post this. Please let me
 or Brigitte know what you think of this type of interview. -johnj
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                     Interview with Scott McNealy
   Chairman of the Board, President, and CEO Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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TO:   Stefan Akerwall, PC World, Sweden 
FROM: Scott G. McNealy, Sun Microsystems, Inc. 

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1. What makes Sun the most successful workstation vendor in the market? 
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If I were to go back in time and shrink-wrap a 1945 Chevrolet, keep it
in mint condition and give it to you today, it would be worth a lot
more than the day it was sold. But if I were to give you a mint
condition, 45-year old computer, it would be worth very little. Why?
While cars are fundamentally a commodity, they are very different from
computers. A '45 Chevrolet still retains its basic functionality when
compared to the modern equivalent, yet has also increased its perceived
value as a classic design.

By contrast, we are continually improving both functionality and design
in computing. Because of rapid advancements in technology such as I/O
bandwidth and processing power each generation of computing is
incomparable with the last.

Our success reflects our customers. Whether they are software
developers, technical professionals or commercial companies they have
one thing in common: they are using information technology to gain
competitive advantage. Sun has remained the industry's leading UNIX
desktop according to industry analysts from IDC because of our
technology innovations, our focus on customer satisfaction and our
commitment to add value. To achieve this, our customers play a major
role in providing feedback as we design our new products.

In addition to our historical lead in terms of time-to-market with
innovative technologies, we have continued to make the correct
trade-offs in terms of price, functionality and performance, assuring
customers the best price/performance ratios.

Many people don't realize the breadth of Sun's technology or just how
far UNIX has penetrated commercial enterprises. According to IDC, we
are also the leading UNIX systems provider. This means that we provide
robust servers which are meeting the business needs of departments as
well as entire commercial enterprises. Our strength in this area is
solid understanding of support and integration needs, as our customers
rapidly re-engineer and rightsize onto a UNIX-based platform.

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2. What is the greatest advantage of a workstation compared to a PC? 
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Our desktops offer an unbeatable combination of processing power, SPARC
and Solaris technologies, and networking capabilities that no PC vendor
can match. Our value has always been, and will continue to be, the full
integration of our systems.

What are the benefits to users and software developers? They can depend
on complete binary compatibility from the smallest desktop to the most
powerful departmental server platform. They can also rely on a robust
Solaris operating system and a proven networking capability. All
together, Sun offers the best, most adaptable and popular software
development environment in the industry. For the majority of software
vendors today, the broad installation base-- and more important the
tremendous growth of UNIX--makes porting to UNIX a standard check-off
item for any application that must have large market penetration.

I can think of a number of areas in which Sun provides unique
advantages over PCs.  For a start, our base-level technologies, such as
audio, internal CD-ROM and floppies, are built into the desktop.
Second, customers want reliable departmental and enterprise-wide
desktops and servers that are both binary compatible and scalable from
bottom to top. They also want to empower employees through better
networking communications, both within and between workgroups.

Some PC users aren't aware of the fact that leading PC applications
also run on Sun, as are thousands of technical applications that aren't
available to the PC. And they run even better on Sun because our
systems provide 32-bit advanced operating system features such as
multitasking. We have also integrated 16 critical workgroup
applications such as group calendaring, integrated electronic mail and
file management.

Another very old myth about UNIX systems is that UNIX is difficult to
use. In fact, today's UNIX systems include sophisticated user
interfaces that reflect the latest thinking in graphical interfaces.
The combination of well-integrated desktop management tools, pull-down
menus, icons, mouse-driven commands, extensive help facilities and
large monitors make UNIX intuitive for the user.

A parallel myth is that UNIX systems are expensive. For a few years
now, UNIX desktops have offered more value than PC systems when
similarly equipped. It is possible to get a UNIX workstation, with
greater performance than a high end PC and with built-in networking,
high capacity disk, high- resolution monitor, true multi-tasking, an
industrial- strength development environment and all the other
ready-to- go features now common on UNIX -- for less than $3,000.

As businesses continue to re-engineer to cut cost and gain competitive
edge, Sun provides a clear advantage by increasing the productivity of
the workgroup. Excelling in the client/server environment, we have
designed our systems around the concept that 'the network is the
computer'. Today, distributed networked computing is a model broadly
embraced by businesses worldwide.

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3. HP has started to ship its 712 series of workstations. It's a
bi-endian machine and thereby ready to run Windows NT (even if HP
doesn't intend to do it). Do you have any plans to port Windows NT to
Sun hardware, or do you consider WABI to be a good enough alternative?
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Over the past few months, Microsoft has re-positioned NT to target the
server and data center environment and has started pushing Chicago as
the strategic desktop platform. To date, I think they have shipped only
a small proportion of their originally projected sales. Combined with
NT's relative newness, there will be a much smaller set of
desktop-oriented applications available than are found for DOS, Windows
or UNIX today.

WABI is not intended to replace NT and we currently see limited need
for incorporating support for NT. WABI is bundled with every Sun
desktop and offers excellent performance for Windows users. Combined
with the recently announced Macintosh Application Environment (MAE) it
also allows our customers to integrate UNIX with their popular
Intel-based and Macintosh desktop applications. This level of
integration, combined with the unsurpassed networking capabilities of
UNIX, is a concept we have coined 'the universal desktop'.

Intergraph Corporation has announced its intention to port and sell
NT-based SPARC systems through an agreement with Sun's SPARC Technology
Business (STB), in our ongoing effort to lead the way in open computing
offering users options based on the SPARC platform. Our own commitment
remains to Solaris as the leading 32-bit operating environment in both
the desktop and server space.

The real decision for customers considering NT is whether they can
trust their business to an unproven 32-bit operating system versus the
proven performance of Solaris. For server- based software such as
databases, manufacturing and human resources, my experience is that
users want maximum performance that can only be achieved in native
mode. Most of the key applications already run on Solaris, or are
currently being moved from mainframes and minicomputers. Solaris is
simply a richer environment for running critical applications.

Bear in mind that addressing the enterprise network and data center
means providing more than just a good operating system. It means
providing excellent user, system and network administration tools,
along with extensive security capabilities. It means allowing people to
do their job, by providing transparent access to resources through
connectivity to a single unified network. It means having an
integration, consulting and maintenance organization that can
understand the challenges facing a corporate entity. It means providing
access to mission-critical applications that really improve
productivity rather than simply automate a single task.

With partners such as Oracle, SAP, EDS, Lotus and WordPerfect, Sun can
provide customers with the best, most adaptable solution. One which NT
has a long way to go to match.

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4. Will WABI support NT and Chicago applications? 
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The product strategy for WABI is to support most popular Windows
applications and this is likely to include Chicago and NT applications
in the future. We have not yet made any announcements.

Incidentally, because WABI is already a 32-bit application it will be
well suited to support 32-bit Windows applications.

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5. Does UNIX have a future on the desktop or will it stay in the
background on the server?
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Customers have aggressively embraced open systems as an alternative to
the constrained world of proprietary computing, giving them greater
freedom of choice in areas such as performance, expandability, price,
ability of the vendor and so on.

Perhaps not surprisingly, while users are excited by this new-found
freedom, they still demand consistency, simplicity and maximum return
on investment. They want a single operating environment that will run
the majority (or all) of the applications across the network. In a
world where we're constantly asked to do more with less, that's
incredibly important.

A single operating system can help leverage resources better. People
resources, for example, still account for a huge proportion of the
technology department's budget.  The development dollar can be better
leveraged by developing only once and re-compiling for each new
instruction set. Skills can be re-used without the need for extensive
re-training. Standardizing on one application across the enterprise
also improves purchasing power through economies of scale, and all
kinds of administration and security issues can be simplified.
Operating systems like Solaris that provide this degreee of
flexibility, yet are capable of running the same applications across
multiple platforms, with the same programming interfaces, tools,
utilities and built-in productivity applications, provide a great
future for UNIX on the desktop.

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6. What is the greatest advantage of the SPARC chip compared 
to Intel chips? 
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Sun's SPARC strategy is to deliver 2x Intel's highest performance at a
competitive price. Our recently published roadmap outlines this,and our
strategy is to deliver products based on this performance. UltraSPARC,
for example, is expected to deliver ~270SPECint92 and will be sampling
later this year. On top of this, SPARC is open and allows for multiple
implementations, through companies such as Fujitsu, Texas Instruments
and LSI Logic. In announcing our recent extension of the Sun-Fujitsu
joint development pact, we outlined an aggressive R&D program that will
result in future families of chips above UltraSPARC that will continue
to provide the industry's highest price/performance.

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7. Personal Questions. 
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 o Title: Chairman of the Board, President, and CEO Sun Microsystems, Inc. 
 o Education: Harvard and Stanford 
 o Achievements: 12 profitable years in the computer industry 

(c) 1994 Sun Microsystems 

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